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August 07, 2014

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Jack is Back (From Bridgehampton via the Road from Hell)

Iggy,

I think it all started with his knee. He had to beef up to maintain that swing of his which requires fast hips and leg drive. The torque on his left knee just wore it down. McIlroy has the same kind of fast hip swing but a lower center of gravity which can absorb better than a taller, longer limb guy like Tiger.

The knee surgery forced Tiger to adapt his swing which in turn put more resistance on the back instead of the hips and legs. One reason he loses lots of drives and lengthy 3 woods to the right. To compensate he will try to be more handsy with his swing and that tends to create big time duck hooks.

I believe he will have to turn the swing speed and hip speed down a few notches or he will always have physical issues and an unreliable driver.

Jack is Back (From Bridgehampton via the Road from Hell)

BTW,

Read in the Southampton Press an advert from Book Hampton that Hillary is doing a book signing next saturday in East Hamptom. I guess she finally a place with undying fans.

Jack is Back (From Bridgehampton via the Road from Hell)

...found a place....

Grow damn it, grow!

Some Guy

Ig,

Tiger has had several iterations of his swing, but the one thing they've all had in common is that aren't sustainable against father time. If you went back and looked at a breakdown of any of his swing variations, from college to today, there is always a point of over stress on some body part.

I believe the split from Hank Haney was related to all of this. Haney was pushing toward a sustainable swing that would last into Tiger's career, and Tiger was resistant and instead was doubling down on his ego and reliance on youthful athleticism by going off doing SEAL type training.

Jeff Dobbs

JiB:
Grow damn it, grow!

If only your finger were a rhubarb, Janet would know what to do.

Ignatz

Thanks guys. The golf channel dude was talking about the forward angle of his club shaft being so great now that the mechanics have become so complicated to compensate for it, especially to get loft, that he is now leaning back in his swing which I know from experience when combined with torque is not conducive to happy discs.

Some Guy

forward angle of his club shaft being so great now that the mechanics have become so complicated to compensate for it, especially to get loft,

Technically, a forward angle of the club shaft, creates loft...or more accurately a high ball flight. I think what he is saying is that he's maintaining his wrist cock (conservation of angular momentum) to an extreme degree. This takes a lot of strength and coordination, generates tons of power, but also causes one to literally spin out of the swing beyond the ability to control it.

That would also explain why he's having such a hard time predicting the distance of his short irons.

Ignatz

--Technically, a forward angle of the club shaft, creates loft...or more accurately a high ball flight.--

I'm not a golfer but that doesn't sound right. The greater the forward angle of the shaft the more square the club face meets the ball and consequently the lower the trajectory. Additionally as he explained, the forward angle of the shaft is coupled with hitting down on the ball which would also have the same effect.

Some Guy

Yes, the forward angle tends to de-loft the clubface, but ball flight is more influenced by spin than clubface loft angles.

The increased club-head speed (and if your hands are leading the club-head, you get a lot more speed), combined with the steep angle of attack (also related to hands leading), generates significantly more spin.

Yes, it's counter intuitive, but golfers whose swings deloft the clubface angle at impact, tend to hit the ball higher than the opposite.

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