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September 10, 2014

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Jeff Dobbs

Michelle has nice arms.

NK

Of course Bush was right in 2007. And thanks to some particularly fine military and political leadership from Petraeus, the Surge worked, and Iraq had a chance to be a successful nation state. Of course the Shia pols who wanted revenge against the sunni more than national success and Obummer screwed that pooch. So here we are. Where we go from here is not so clear... the pooch is that badly screwed. I accept Sandy's expert opinion is correct that 'Iraq' as a unified nation is over, so it seems to me the USA national interest is to slaughter as many ISIS savages as possible, and minimize Mullah influence to Basra and the south.

narciso

you see how well the 'narrative' had circulated, of course, Petraeus did go after the lead Syrian operator, and I'm sure Yglesias wasn't impressed then,

Jane

I have mixed emotions - and that is just so wrong of me. I want our nation to succeed, and I want Obama to be utterly humiliated.

I'm a very bad person.

narciso

Well I don't have any confidence in the policy makers, and I'm not sanguine on the partners on the ground, except for the Kurds, I hope it succeeds but I don't see how it can,

Dave (in MA)

I'm failing to see the "mixed emotions" part.

NK

Jane-- no... you're a patriot.

BTW-- sometimes LIVs are a beautiful thing, all of the Dem anti-Koch memes are lame and useless: https://twitter.com/amyewalter/status/509477483021094912

Dave (in MA)

Having employed the Hokey Pokey Surge™ in Afghanistan, he now plans on implementing a Chicken Dance in Iraq.

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The clip was taken from a 2007 press conference and features Bush warn[ing] that if the U.S. withdrew too early from Iraq, troops would eventually have to return to face a stronger enemy.

“To begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we are ready … would mean surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaeda,” Bush said. “It would mean that we’d be risking mass killings on a horrific scale. It would mean we’d allow the terrorists to establish a safe haven in Iraq to replace the one they lost in Afghanistan.”

“It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return…”
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“It would mean increasing the probability that American troops would have to return at some later date to confront an enemy that is even more dangerous,” he concluded.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/05/fox-news-host-airs-george-w-bushs-frighteningly-accurate-2007-warning-on-iraq/#

NK

DaveinMa-- unfortunately, you are probably right. And in the process he'll get a lot of damn fine men, men miles better than Obummer, killed for no purpose.

narciso

revisiting the same ground:


http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/before-we-go-to-war-against-isis-we-need-to-answer-some-questions/

we kind of know the answer to the second question, the first is rather clear

Threadkiller

It will be a Muslim call to arms. Watch his stoned eyelids closely, they will be blinking Farsi Code.

Threadkiller

A Farewell to Arms Heads

narciso

I'm not sanguine, why does this 'barbara streissand' about Koch have any purchase, they just throw stuff out there, and it sticks,

from the OTB link, the site has since gone fully strigoi since then, no one gave Petraeus's counterinsurgency a chance to succeed even though it had proven itself in small instances in Tel Afar and Ramadi,

anonamom

Americans dragging their president off the golf course to deal with ISIS.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/is-obama-leading-or-being-led-20140909

NK

leave him on the golf course, better for the nation.

Danube on iPad

Destruct and destroy.

GMax

TM

Forget what the talking heads wrote back then, what would be extremely interesting would be to see what Senator Barack Obama said back then, along with his band of merry minstrels. And then watch and see how breathless the same merry group will be today.

Democrats do theatre, complete with phony Greek arches when they can pull it off...

NK

here you go GMax, Obummer January 2007 speaking through his astroturf peeps. Against the surge, Iraqis 'need to come together' blah blah blah Prog bullshit. Effin' totally wrong as usual: http://citizensforbarackobama.blogspot.com/2007/01/obama-opposes-troop-surge-in-iraq.html

Rick B

Jane,

President Merde Touch will continue to humiliate himself regardless of our wishes. It's truly the only thing for which he has shown any talent whatsoever. "Success" against the plague of islam is rather doubtful while the oil lasts. The abject failure of the Clinton/Obama Arab Spring initiative seems to have sparked a series of conflicts which are removing Mahometan savages at a relatively brisk clip. If we can aid either or all sides to step up the pace through a random application of air power, it should at least keep the headchoppers focused on existential local concerns rather than extending the range of their depredation.

narciso

well we saw the Strigoi infestation back then, the proper amount of uv light, seem to hold them at bay:

Previously on JOM, (Hit you can do the graphic)


http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/09/petreaus-thread.html#comments

daddy

Good Morning!

This morning about 05:30 was awoken by that beautiful sound of a Choo Choo Train's Whistle, as its still warm enough to have the windows open and the atmospheric conditions were perfect for magnifying that mournful blast and the soothing rhythm of the rails.

Which of you guys are lucky enough to still hear that soulful sound while lying in bed?

Jeff Dobbs

What Obama said about launching a kinetic military action in Libya:

"To brush aside America's responsibility as a leader and—more profoundly—our responsibilities to our fellow human beings under such circumstances would have been a betrayal of who we are," Obama said. "Some nations may be able to turn a blind eye to atrocities in other countries. The United States of America is different. And as president, I refused to wait for the images of slaughter and mass graves before taking action."

Of course, the images of slaughter and mass graves did nothing to get Obama to live up to his red lines in Syria. Libya-Obama says Syria-Obama's inaction was a betrayal of who we are as a nation.

Anyhoo, now we have ISIS-Obama having waited for the images of American journalists being slaughtered before being forced into action by American outrage and poll results.

Up until that point, he was just planning on turning a blind eye to ISIS atrocities.

Not that that's a betrayal of who he is. It is exactly who he is.

GMax

NK thanks

I suggest we start talking to the progs like they always talk to us.

For example from the NK link this is a direct quote:

Let's bring it down to your level Mr. President so you can understand the concept.

I will take the floor with the assertion that if anyone needs remedial education, it would be Barack Obama and nearly every prog. These teach to the world to sing in perfect harmony types don't even understand human nature.


Jeff Dobbs

narc:
Previously on JOM, (Hit you can do the graphic)

NK

Daddy-- good morning. With windows open I hear Metro-North trains, if the wind is still or blowing in the correct directions. Somehow that sound is not as 'soulful'.

NK

As GMax quotes, the Obummer crew were jiveass punk bastards then and now. I truely despise the entire crew.

Jeff Dobbs

daddy:
Which of you guys are lucky enough to still hear that soulful sound while lying in bed?

No trains audible here - but we do have a daily 05:30 flight that passes directly overhead that we can hear when the windows are open. The plane sports a logo with which I believe you are very familiar.

Of course, to be literal, the wind direction can alter the plane's approach, so it's not daily that it passes directly overhead. Just predominantly.

narciso

So they say they are modeling this campaign, after the one against Al Shahaab, how well lets consider that worked, I was glancing through Morten Storm's memoir (the Danish jihadist who served as a mole in AQAP for PET (Danish intelligence)then MI-6 and ultimately CIA, he reminds us that one of the first strikes was against Ali Nabhan in 2009 by drone, about four years later came the Westgate mall attack, yes Godane, the fellow who went 'Norwegian blue' this week is briefly mentioned, but that was also in that period, back in 2009, it wasn't the drones so much as Storm's reporting that got Awlaki, and his organization is miniscule compared to ISIS, also on page 306, he does mention the Saudi/UK agent, but mostly to show that it was the latter's burning, that forced him out of the organization,

narciso

so what do they know, we aren't being told:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/spy-chief-australia-raise-terror-threat-25391944

NK

my wife is flying to/from Boston today... I'm not happy about that.

Danube on iPad

Tommy Vittor epitomizes the whole miserable, infantile lot of them.

NK

Tommy V is an exemplar of the despicable Obummer Crew, indeed.

This is the most authoritative pundit on ObummerCare I've see during the past 18 months (no offense TomM). It's mess that is about to get far worse: http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-next-chapter-of-obamacare.html

narciso

just get back to kite boarding,

http://therightscoop.com/kerry-isils-hateful-ideology-has-nothing-to-do-with-islam/

GMax

Goodell stipulated that Rice “would have to make sure that we are fully confident he is addressing this issue, clearly he has paid a price for the actions he has already taken,” in order to return to professional football. Goodell spoke to CBS News in an interview that aired Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. He also said the league is giving Rice and his wife the “resources” needed to “help them work through” the issue.

Does that sound like the guy will never again darken the NFL doorstep?

peter

this morning at 5:30 I heard the sound of a raccoon laughing at me as he ran through my vegetable garden. we have a very Elmer Fudd /wascally wodent like relationship

narciso

this is why an episode of Legends will be more informative:

CNN reporting that Obama will ask Congress for the authority to arm and train moderate Syrian rebels

well more like Bill Murray and the gopher.

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KERRY: “ISIL’S HATEFUL IDEOLOGY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM”

This is what we can expect from Obama, too. A flagrant, outrageous lie.

Jane

Why fly to and from CT to Boston? Why not take a train?

Jane

The "moderate" Syrian rebels sold Sotloff to Isis for $35k

Extraneus

Ted Cruz: ‘Saturday Night Live’ Skits Illegal Under New Campaign Finance Proposal (Video)

“Lorne Michaels could be put in jail under this amendment for making fun of any politician. That is extremely dangerous,” Cruz argued yesterday afternoon — tossing in a Dana Carvey impression to drive home his point. That’s because, Cruz insisted, the bill would give congress the “constitutional authority to prohibit” corporations “from engaging in political speech” and, “NBC, which airs Saturday Night Live, is a corporation.”

“Who can forget, in 2008, Saturday Night Live’s wickedly funny characterization of the Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin?” Cruz reminisced. “Wickedly funny — and also had a profound effect of people’s assessment of Sarah Palin — who is a friend of mine.”

GMax

Network media is just the propaganda division of the Liar Party. Via Newsbuster we learn the count:

It’s no secret that television news has long been addicted to public opinion polls; decades ago, all three broadcast networks decided to partner with an influential newspaper (ABC News with the Washington Post; CBS News with the New York Times; and NBC News with the Wall Street Journal) to sponsor their own regular surveys for use in their political coverage. That’s why it’s so extraordinary that polling news has practically vanished from the Big Three evening newscasts in 2014 as President Obama’s approval ratings have tumbled and the public opposes defining administration policies like ObamaCare. Just last Thursday, for example, Gallup found Obama’s approval rating at a record low of 38 percent, yet none of the three broadcast networks bothered to mention this on their evening or morning newscasts. Such coverage is in stunning contrast to how those same newscasts relentlessly emphasized polls showing bad news for George W. Bush during the same phase of his presidency. Media Research Center analysts reviewed every reference on the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts to public opinion polls from January 1 through August 31, 2014, and from the same time period in 2006. Eight years ago, the networks aired 124 evening news reports which cited public opinion polls about either President Bush’s overall approval rating or his handling of specific policies. In 2014, those same broadcasts produced only nine reports which mentioned public opinion surveys related to President Obama.
peter

yes, narciso, more like Bill Murray and the gopher

peter

to answer your question gmax, not without a good publicist, a few crying sessions on Oprah and a suitably remorseful period of phony rehab and counselling

Danube on iPad

"Does that sound like the guy will never again darken the NFL doorstep?"

Robert Kraft says he won't.

Harvey Levin of TMZ absolutely shredded Goodell this morning.

GMax

a suitably remorseful period of phony rehab and counselling

apparently paid for by the NFL is that Goodell quote is correct.

Man Tran on iPhone

One of the few things Amtrak did right 40 yrs ago was listen to a guy who insisted they not install the typical 'horn' like the freight locos that sounds like a sick calf. So Amtrak has Nathan M-5 'whistles' that are actually pleasant to hear.

danoso

IDK - it appears Mr. and Mrs. Rice had worked through this just fine.

It's the rest of the world that didn't find 'closure'.

Miss Marple

What I expect tonight: a lot of generalities written so as to sound tough, along with a lot of "plans" which really are much ado about nothing (like the sanctions on Russia).

The MSM will gaze in rapture at this and then tell us how wonderful it is. They will suddenly discover the overwhelming support for hitting ISIS hard and attribute it to a switch in public attitude due to Obama's wonderful speechifying.

And over the next 2 weeks we will find out that he has done NOTHING. We will find out that the weapons for the Kurds are delayed, he's insulted the Poles and the Danes, the Brits will be distracted by him making a pro-Scottish Independence comment, he will snub Tony Abbott, and the Iranians will be swooping in to take land in the guise of fighting ISIS.

Old Lurker

...but he will have taken $5B from Congress and feathered his nest with it MM.

Miss Marple

Old Lurker, Sadly, you are right. That $5 billion will probably go to "Muslim outreach."

Old Lurker

"Muslim Outreach & Knife Sharpening" perhaps.

Pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/09/islamophobia_hell_yes.html

Or John Kerry?

IMO, John Kerry has never been right.

GMax

Bob Kraft? Is he the guy that had Aaron Hernandez on his team? Didn't Hernandez have some incidents in college as well? He failed a drug test or something caused him to drop quite low in the draft, 3rd or 4th round. I vaguely remember the Pats did some kind of earn out on his initial bonus too, so they kinda knew he had issues, but of course he could catch the football and was hard to tackle, so they went for it.

NK

Jane/Man Tran-- the one thing Amtrak gets wrong is running a passenger railroad. I implored my wife to train it to Boston, but according to her, Stamford-Boston Back Bay Acela costs more than airfare PLUS all day airport parking AND TOLLS to LaG, and Regular Service takes 6 HOURS, that's about 38MPH. Un-frikkin' ridiculous.

anonamom

NYT Iraq bureau chief telling the truth about the pressure from Obama administration since 2011 to present their spin of what was going on (contrary to what his lyin' eyes were showing him).
He's on today's Terri Gross's Fresh Air.

Why haven't we heard any of this until the past two weeks?

Who gave them the word that it was time to speak up?

Jane

"Muslim outreach" is a synonym for rewarding his Muslim Brotherhood cronies.

Jack is Back!

It will be half-hearted with a bit of Hamlet thrown in. Lots of I's, mines, me's and no us's. He will have something negative to say about the previous administration (Bush) and the current gang of Republicans. [He can't help himself].

There will be strawmen galore and phony-false assurances.

There will no metric for success or even vision of success.

Just more reluctant leadership from behind. But he will have a map and laser pointer as props.

Rick B

The Australian identification of home grown or immigrant Mahometans as the threat is correct. I wouldn't hesitate to fly tomorrow but I would be leary of spending much time in an advertised "Gun Free" zone. If the Mahometan savages want to elicit maximum outrage they will select Beslan targets.

narciso

Didn't Volodya steal his ring, besides it's not up to him, Mark 'tiger beat' Landler, has the discussion at 20th Century vole, between Strobe,
the Burglar and Harman, splunge was not uttered
once, that I recall.


that National Geographic revisionist take on I Nero, that I mentioned last week reads like a Carlos Slim dispatch, perhaps by Marcus Terremus, forget the murder and poisonings,
he ended Claudius's proscriptions, raised taxes and confiscated the rich's land outright

Danube on iPad

"Bob Kraft? Is he the guy that had Aaron Hernandez on his team?"

Sure. There was no public outcry against Hernandez until the murder allegations, at which point Kraft cut his kite string in a heartbeat. Kraft isn't taking a principled moral stand (he publicly embraced convicted wife-beater Floyd Mayweather in his VIP box). He's anticipating what. PR disaster will confront any team that picks him up. And of course before anyone has the chance, Goodell will have to lift the ban, and his decision will be based entirely on what sort of wind his moist finger detects.

Old Lurker

NK, Acela is in the process of killing their DC-NY goldmine too.

NK

OL-- but they'll always have SloJoe Biden riding to Del. ( I bet they let him toot the whistle!)

Captain Hate on the iPad

Maybe some team desperate for a running back will pick up Rice because his yards per carry fell off a cliff last season. Running backs, particularly undersized ones, don't last long in the enneffell, particularly when in Barry Sander's case he opts to avoid the pounding.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Kraft will always be in King Roger's corner for destroying the spygate tapes.

GMax

We agree that its not a moral stand on Kraft's part. AND we agree its not Kraft's decision. But I read Goodell's comment to just be itching to tell the rehabilitated poor minority story why otherwise did he not say "he is suspended and perhaps we will revisit that in the future, but its a long way off, and that is all I am going to say."

lyle

Noemie Emery:

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing,” they saying (often attributed to Edmund Burke) goes, and life has been proving it right. Barack Obama isn’t a bad man, but he is the kind of good man whom every real brute hopes to have drawn as his counter, the one Hitler wanted to face instead of Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt, whom Stalin wanted to face instead of Harry S. Truman, and the one whom the Islamic State and Putin are thrilled to be facing, as he unwinds not only the gains made against Islamist fanatics by both of the Bushes, but those made by Truman and Reagan as well. Can he learn that the failure to act can also be “stupid”? Can he ever begin to be wise?

"Obama isn't a bad man"? Hmmm...

jimmyk on iPhone

Even with airport travel, security, etc, even the Acela is still slower door to door between NYC and Boston. Significantly. To DC the gap is smaller but still there.

Captain Hate

My reaction exactly, lyle. He lost the benefit of the doubt on that a while back imo.

jimmyk on iPhone

"when in Barry Sander's case he opts to avoid the pounding."

I had the impression Sanders retired pretty close to his peak, no? He just didn't want to spend the rest of his life a cripple (can I use that word?). I'm sure it didn't help that the Lions were a crap organization with no prospect for success.

Jack is Back!

jimmyk,

Amtrak owns the track DC to NYC it is still shared and not a dedicated HS track or design. Trackage NYC to Boston is Amtrak, ConnDoT and MBTA (IIRC). Also shared and not designed as HS.

Acela is not even close to what true high speed is like in Europe and Asia. Most HSR in Europe and Asia are on dedicated and designed HS trackage, power and signalling. No sharing. Some sections of TGV Atlantique, for example, use standard SNCF designed ttrack but the rolling stock is TG

Danube on iPad

How do you know all this shit, JiB?

Danube on iPad

The heat on Goodell is increasing. Twelve members of House Judiciary have just sent him a letter asking for a detailed account of the efforts made to get the tapr. (his story to this point is laughable.)

Captain Hate

That's what I was implying, jimmyk, on why he left at his peak. Frankly I don't think anybody should blame him.

henry

Oh boy! AFSCME is coming! The only happy thing in the article is the union membership is down 70% since ACT 10. Note: the DA's wife was an official in WEAC (teachers union), which lost a greater percent of members.

clarice

aeekly Standard blog quotes our own TM today.

clarice

That is. Weekly Standard

Old Lurker

My observed problems DC to NY on Acela are threefold.

Increasingly it is not much more reliable than the regional offering so the old "you can always count on every hour on the hour" is less likely to be true;

And lately they are using the airline-type dynamic pricing so that it can now cost a lot more than it used to;

And as my girls tell me, at best it is only 15-20 minutes faster (than regular Amtrak) but for double the money...

Old Lurker

And DoT...JiB knows EVERYTHING about government scale boondoggles of an engineering nature.

Pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

If the DAs in Wisc can't destroy the Republicans, maybe the Texas ones:

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/09/10/americas-most-infamous-drunk-driving-da-sets-up-to-persecute-another-republican/

Threadkiller

Barack Obama isn’t a bad man,...

Is Emery an idiot?

clarice

Still--acela or regular Amtrak--it's easier to train it to NYC from DC than to fly--considering the security situation at airports and the trips to and from the airports. It is terribly managed..they lose millions on their overpriced horrible food service, for example..


Henry--looks like the 7th Circuit isn't buying the prosecutors' B.S. I'm looking for a major carve out on prosecutorial immunity--something long overdue.

anonamom

MM--any market for amethyst glass?

A friend's deceased mother has a collection.

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