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October 06, 2014

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maryrose

First,I hope
SC punts on gay marriage.

Jane

More insider books coming out this week.

It should be fun!

NKrebooting

So LeonP says Obummer is a complete Eff Up. This is news?

maryrose

I would have more respect for Panetta if he would have stated his concerns BEFORE the 2012 election.Now it is just cya and his own legacy protection. Not concerned about America or the best leadership needed in these troubled times.
NK: we have known for years about the emperor sans clothes=it takes dumb progs a bit longer .

Captain Hate

Panetta is a Clinton boot licker so take the timing of anything he does with that in mind.

Ignatz

--"I do think we would be in a better position to kind of know whether or not there is some moderate element in the rebel forces that are confronting (Syrian President Bashar) Assad."--

We had to pass it machineguns to know what's in it.

Captain Hate

SC punts on gay marriage.

So the lower courts will continue to act like it's specifically approved in the Constitution. The usual suspects need to tell me again why Queen Souter-Roberts is this great justice who will save the Republic.

Extraneus

Panetta is a Clinton boot licker so take the timing of anything he does with that in mind.

Panetta, from the same interview:

“One thing about the Clintons is, they want to get it done. When it comes to being president of the United States, it’s one thing to talk a good game. It’s another thing to deliver, to make things happen.”
Jane

It's a state's issue. Leave it there.

GMax

So Ebola is transmitted by contact with bodily fluids. And even a low grade fever on a long trans atlantic flight would mean a sweating carrier. And no one knows even a haphazard guess about how long ebola in this environment in a leather or faux leather seat might last?

Might pay to ask where the plane has been recently on your next flight...

Ignatz

We had to support the "moderates" in Libya, which is now governed by jihadists.
We had to support the "moderates" in Egypt who were so immoderate the people and Army revolted.
Islamic moderates in the ME are secular muslims who serve as amorphous, powerless target practice or amorphous, powerless keep-your-head-down-and-it-won't-get-shot-off masses.

If it's organized in the ME it, by definition, isn't moderate.

maryrose

Basically I agree with you Jane up to this point.
A state votes to ban it by a large margin . They are then forced to accept the gay marriages of other states. Then a liberal judge negates the votes of the people of that state who voted to ban it by declaring it unconstitutional. State's rights are then neutered.
However as a political issue opposition is a loser.

Captain Hate

It's a state's issue. Leave it there.

You are aware the federal judges have overruled state amendments to their constitutions by the voters to prevent homosexual marriage, correct?

Ignatz

--It's a state's issue. Leave it there.

Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2014 at 11:01 AM--

They can't leave it there.
It was made a constitutional civil rights issue by the SCOTUS and unless they step in and rein in the federal courts that are invalidating state laws it will never be a state's issue again.

Extraneus

Might pay to ask where the plane has been recently on your next flight...

An app that tells you who sat in your seat over the past week or so would be nice, too.

Steve

Project Veritas Latest - Alison Grimes’ campaign workers caught on hidden camera: "It's a lying game”

COMMON CENTS: Project Veritas Latest - Grimes’ campaign workers caught on hidden camera: "It's a lying game”

Porchlight

It's a state's issue. Leave it there.

Would that we could, but federal courts have overruled state laws banning it.

Steve

Project Veritas Latest - Alison Grimes’ campaign workers caught on hidden camera: "It's a lying game”

COMMON CENTS: Project Veritas Latest - Grimes’ campaign workers caught on hidden camera: "It's a lying game”

Porchlight

Some good news that has probably already been posted, from the Washington Examiner:

Gallup: Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high, worse than Bush, Clinton

Needless to say these are better numbers for us than in 2010 and better than the Dems had in 2006.

Sue

I think Ben Affleck needs to prove his point to Bill Maher by drawing a cartoon of the Prophet Mohammed.

Janet

How to Confront the Islamic State - http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/geert-wilders/how-to-confront-the-islamic-state/#.VDKoDwiDCpc.facebook

Captain Hate

One heartbeat away:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/biden-mocks-european-unions-economy_808570.html

Jeff Dobbs

Voter opposition to Obama at 16-year high

I have to admit, I didn't oppose Obama in 1998.

Ignatz

If college commies think cops should shut up about colleges inviting cop killers to give commencement speeches I assume the same commies would have no problem if the police invited campus rapists to address their graduating police academy classes.

Sue

And he could really prove that Islam is full of moderates by taking a Bible, the Torah and the Koran and burning all 3 and see which religion goes after him.

Ignatz

I think Ben Affleck needs to prove his point by presenting his vagina to a muslim with a knife.

Old Lurker

Panetta obviously missed the chapter on when one must resign a governance post (which we talked about last week).

He did, however, read the one about how best to preserve a senior role in a Clinton reign.

glasater

BOR is interviewing Panetta for his show airing tomorrow night. BOR feels Panetta has the goods on Benghazi so will be a dog with a bone on that front.
HOpe some insight comes from that questioning.

Sue

Peter Kassig, the former Army guy being held by ISIS, converted to islam last year. He has a new name. Wonder why he won't be saved from beheading.

Porchlight

I have to admit, I didn't oppose Obama in 1998.

Yeah, not the best headline. "Voter opposition to WH incumbent" would have been more accurate, but I'll take it.

Captain Hate

The Koch Brothers strike again:

http://weaselzippers.us/201746-heartache-poll-finds-harry-reids-approval-rating-at-all-time-low-21/

Jane


'It was made a constitutional civil rights issue by the SCOTUS and unless they step in and rein in the federal courts that are invalidating state laws it will never be a state's issue again."


Do you think there is any chance this court would rule that way?

Cat

A complete degenerate, Leon Panetta has always been one of the most despicable political hacks in Washington, imho.

henry

Panetta is trying to show that Hillary is not as stupid as Barack. He protests too much.

Jim Miller

Fun fact: Leon Panetta started his career as a Republican, a John Lindsay Republican, granted, but still a Republican.

He even worked in the Nixon administration for a while. (He resigned because he thought, or says he thought, that they weren't doing enough on civil rights.)

centralcal

It is NOT a state's issue currently. The courts have nullified what some states have passed.

glasater

Wonder if Panetta criticizes Zero's handling of Putin in his book which I have no intention of ever reading.

Marlene

The DNC fundraiser Obama is attending today is at a restaurant half a block from the daughter's office. They've been told the Secret Service is shutting down (securing) the building's underground parking garage at 5PM. So,all the people in that building will have to leave work before 5PM,or wait until the entourage leaves the area. Gallery Place/Chinatown is a busy area,imagine the inconvenience. Yeah,Obama cares. *snort*

narciso

yeah about them rebels:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/threat-matrix/archives/2014/10/free_syrian_army_continues_to.php

the lesson from Libya is if you somehow get a moderate like Gibril, or Magarief, the administration will treat them little better then Netanyahu or the Honduran generals,

NKrebooting

The Lackwitz Sisters-- that's what the dems have left voting for them. Will social media get them out to vote for Dems, when their life sucks? we'll find out: http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/06/democrats-yo-single-women-dont-forget-to-vote/

Captain Hate

Do you think there is any chance this court would rule that way?

Of course there's a chance but, even if there wasn't, by failing to take this they're letting the lower courts do whatever they want with no overriding guiding principle.

Beasts of England

lol, Sue! Exactly!!

Sue

Another liberal touting Islam, the religion of peace.

Sue

Alan Colmes. On Fox.

Captain Hate

It wouldn't take much effort to slice through teh Skeletor's pencil neck.

Sue

I disagree on it being a state issue. The Feds made it a federal issue when they gave special tax treatment to married couples. For every good thing the government has tried there is a consequence to be paid.

glasater

Islamists and liberals get on TV and they talk and talk and talk and never say anything.

Ignatz

--Do you think there is any chance this court would rule that way?

Posted by: Jane | October 06, 2014 at 11:28 AM--

No, because Kennedy has long since demonstrated that on any issue relating to homosexuality the state's are forbidden from acting.
He is spectacularly wrong, of course, and as Scalia has repeatedly warned there is no end to the mischief which will flow directly from this position, but without Kennedy there are only four votes, at best, for Federalism.

Ignatz

--The Feds made it a federal issue when they gave special tax treatment to married couples. --

OK, but Lawrence from which all this began flowing had little or nothing to do with taxation.

NKrebooting

The future of all of the Blue Hells, bankrupt, reneging on pension promises, shafting bondholders, and still unable to provide 'basic' public services despite reneging on pensions and shafting bondholders. The future of Newark, Camden, Gary, Akron, RI, Ill., and Ct.

NKrebooting

The link: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-06/detroit-mayor-looking-to-corporate-team-to-run-city.html

Extraneus

BOR feels Panetta has the goods on Benghazi so will be a dog with a bone on that front.
HOpe some insight comes from that questioning.

Surely no insight will come to BOR, regardless.

As for Panetta, he will protect Hillary.

Cat

Fun fact: Leon Panetta started his career as a Republican, a John Lindsay Republican, granted, but still a Republican.

He even worked in the Nixon administration for a while. (He resigned because he thought, or says he thought, that they weren't doing enough on civil rights.)

Posted by: Jim Miller | October 06, 2014 at 11:31 AM

That two-faced, unprincipled. Liberal began his career as a Democrat. California Congressman. You might be thinking of Massachusetts' Miller

narciso

Leon got the nod, at the Pentagon, for denouncing 'torture' of detainees, why else,
'in the land of the blind' he has some peripheral vision, but not much,

the Journal reports that the strikes, against ISIS have yielded mostly 'bupkis' in terms of training camps, I think that's the technical term,

Captain Hate

Jim Miller is correct about Panetta.

MarkO

Roberts? Ptooey©

Vituperation. Mocking. Obloquy.

The last man who could have spared the country from ObamaCare.

MarkO

Panetta knows exactly where the President was on Benghazi Night.

narciso

He's not as bad as Taney, but he could be any of the judges that affirmed Plessy.

these memoirs are illuminating, mostly in the way these authors, seem unaware of many obvious things, that's being charitable,

glasater

I did say 'insight', Ext :-)

Reading between the lines and all of that.

James D.

A complete degenerate, Leon Panetta has always been one of the most despicable political hacks in Washington

There's a lot of competition for that title...

NKrebooting

Obummer on 9/11-9/12/12? he was chooming it up, and doin' other stuff, with Reggie Love before heading out to Vegas. If he wasn't? Let Obummer prove what he was doing.

MarkO

Marriage!!!! Said with the inflection of the Bishop in "The Princess Bride."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/supreme-court-on-gay-marriage-sure-who-cares,31812/

NKrebooting

Speaking of Choomers, Third World pal ( I assume he's muzzie) of the Brothers Tsarnaev says he was too stoned to know he was obstructing justice: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-06/boston-bomb-suspect-s-friend-uses-marijuana-defense.html

Extraneus

Ah, then we're agreed that the blockhead has the insight of a loofah.

Captain Hate

The Florida Gators canceled their weekly presser today for the first time in 20 years.

Comanche Voter

You know folks leave the Obama administration teepee. And once they are outside the teepee, they regain a smidgen of their intellectual honesty (which they had parked at the teepee door flap when they checked into Chez Obama).

And when they do regain that intellectual honesty and write their memoirs, well all of a sudden they are p@ssing in, rather than p@ssing out. They are still politicians, so you have to treat their statements as bilgewater that they spew. Only the direction changes.

It's all buffalo chips to me.

Jim Miller

From the Wikipedia biography of Leon Panetta:

"Panetta started in politics in 1966 as a legislative assistant to Republican Senator Thomas Kuchel, the United States Senate Minority Whip from California, whom Panetta has called "a tremendous role model".[10]

In 1969 he became the assistant to Robert H. Finch, Secretary of the United States Department of Health, Education, and Welfare under the Nixon administration. Soon thereafter he was appointed Director of the Office for Civil Rights.[11]

Panetta chose to enforce civil rights and equal education laws over the objection of President Nixon, who wanted enforcement to move slowly.[12]Robert Finch and Assistant Secretary John Veneman supported Panetta and refused to fire Panetta, threatening to resign if forced to do so.[13] Eventually forced out of office in 1970, Panetta resigned and left Washington to work as Executive Assistant for John Lindsay, the then-Republican Mayor of New York City (Lindsay would switch parties the following year.) He wrote about this experience in his 1971 book Bring Us Together."

Miss Marple

http://twitchy.com/2014/10/06/breaking-nurse-in-spain-reportedly-has-tested-positive-for-ebola/?utm_source=autotweet&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=twitter

I assume this is the nurse who treated the priest who died.

lyle

Panetta is just laying the groundwork for Shrillary. Pathetically obvious.

Jane

Speaking of "who cares". I told Amy about the decision, then had to correct myself because you guys corrected me, and her response was: "You know more about it than me".

So clearly, no one cares.

narciso

I guess this is why punctuation is important, he was with DGSE in Afghanistan?

http://hotair.com/archives/2014/10/06/revealed-secret-target-of-u-s-airstrikes-in-syria-was-french-intel-agent-who-defected-to-al-qaeda/

lyle

Creepiest man alive alert:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2014/10/axelrod-obama-ballot-line-a-mistake-196592.html

Click to see who (or should that be 'whom'?) I'm talking about.

Beasts of England

I keep reading Panetta as pancetta. It's much more entertaining that way...

Ignatz

I'd click a button to waterboard Axelrod, but to see him?

Extraneus

Federal officials cast doubt on Ebola travel ban

Top government health officials said Sunday that they are opposed to placing a ban on travelers from Ebola-infected countries, warning that shutting down borders could impede efforts by aid workers to stop the spread of the deadly virus.

The idea of a ban gained currency this past week after the nation's first case was diagnosed in Dallas. Proponents have argued that it would help ensure public safety.

Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, part of the National Institutes of Health, said a travel embargo on West African countries that are struggling with Ebola would make it much harder for them to control the virus.

"You isolate them, you can cause unrest in the country," Fauci told "Fox News Sunday." ''It's conceivable that governments could fall if you just isolate them completely."

...

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said the U.S. should halt flights from Ebola-stricken countries.

"The Obama administration keeps saying they won't shut down flights. They instead say we should listen to 'the experts,'" Jindal said Friday. "In fact, they said it would be counterproductive to stop these flights. That statement defies logic."

Tom Frieden, director of the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said on ABC's "This Week" that the administration was open to practical suggestions that won't backfire.

"We don't want to do something that inadvertently increases our risk by making it harder to stop the outbreak there, because if it spreads more widely throughout different countries in Africa, that will be even more of a risk to us," said Frieden, whose agency has cautioned against non-essential travel to Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea.

Frieden has also noted that a ban on incoming flights could affect Americans trying to return home from those countries.

"There are many other people who have the right to enter into this country," he said during a Saturday briefing. "And we're not going to be able to get to zero risk no matter what we do unless and until we control the outbreak in West Africa."

So he didn't mis-speak the other day. They're really trying to convince people of this illogical position, which will immediately collapse if one more case is diagnosed. Amazing.

lyle

They're really trying to convince people of this illogical position, which will immediately collapse if one more case is diagnosed. Amazing.

Open borders trumps everything with these jerks. Why, if they stopped flights, some of us stupid rubes might get the wrong idea and demand the borders get closed as well. Can't have that.

AliceH

Extraneous: That won't prompt an international travel ban, however I do expect they are already working on plans for restricting travel within the US, perhaps citing studies like this:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/12/061214082344.htm

Cat

"French intel agent who defected to Al Qaeda"

Yeah, right, ha, ha, ha. Covering up another Obama screw-up.

narciso

they really are 'rousting the squirrels' first it was the Khorassan group, now a French double agent, actually an asset, if he actually exists,

NKrebooting

Fauci-- let's remember what fauci was doing 25+ years ago. he was pushing the lie that heterosexual contact was just as risky as male homosexual contact or IV drug abuse. In hindsight he justified the lie by saying societal stigma against buggery and junkies prevented funding for HIV research, so he had to scare straights to pay up. I'm old fashioned, a lie is a lie and Fauci is still a propagandist: http://history.nih.gov/nihinownwords/assets/media/pdf/press/1988/PR_NIAID_1988_12_15.pdf

narciso

why didn't we waterboard him, why did Susskind never mention him?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11140190/Banker-who-financed-911-mastermind-now-funding-terrorists-in-Syria-and-Iraq.html

Jeff Dobbs

The return of The Glitch:

CNN’s Candy Crowley asked Frieden why it took the government days to remove Ebola-contaminated clothes, bed sheets and other objects from the Dallas apartment of Thomas Eric Duncan, the first-ever Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States.

“The reason we had some challenges with the medical waste is that’s the first time we’ve had to deal with that situation,” he said. “And just by chance, there had been a glitch in our system — the government system to approve a waste removal company to do that.”

Flashback...Flashback...Flashback...Flashback...

“Even if we do everything perfectly, there will still be, you know, glitches and bumps, and there will be stories that can be written that say, ‘Oh, look, this thing is, you know, not working the way it’s supposed to, and this happened and that happened,’ ” Mr. Obama said. “And that’s pretty much true of every government program that’s ever been set up.”

Government is just another word for the glitches we get to experience together.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Why did Florida suspend their news conference?

http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/florida-football/treon-harris-suspended-investigation-legal-matter/

Beasts of England

@Captain: looks like it may involve Treon Harris. Yikes.

Dave (in MA)

An Iranian nuke facility went boom. Hopefully Israel was behind it.

Captain Hate

let's remember what fauci was doing 25+ years ago. he was pushing the lie that heterosexual contact was just as risky as male homosexual contact or IV drug abuse.

They got their useful idiots at State Radio to promulgate that hot steaming pile. I remember the usual suspects parroting it to me like good little apparatchiks.

lyle

It's good to be king with your own Praetorian guard.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/face-nation-leaves-out-netanyahus-criticism-obama

Extraneus
Cruz on rescue mission - Sen. Pat Roberts’ campaign announced today that Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, would campaign with the Kansas incumbent on Thursday as Roberts kicks off a bus tour. Joining along the way will be Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla.
Extraneus

In hindsight he justified the lie by saying societal stigma against buggery and junkies prevented funding for HIV research, so he had to scare straights to pay up.

He should have been strung up for that.

Jane

Treon Harris charged with sexual assault Sunday AM - according to twitter.

Porchlight

It was so obvious from the beginning that AIDS was not going to "explode into the general population" as threatened and that it was just a shakedown job for funding.

Porchlight

Is McConnell going to be smart enough to make an ad using O'Keefe's footage of Grimes?

I want this to go national. Show everyone what lying creeps they are.

http://freebeacon.com/politics/grimes-staffers-suggest-kentucky-dem-lies-about-coal-support/

Extraneus
MEET THE MAN WHO ONCE SAID OF HIS KLANSMAN RIVAL ‘THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IN COMMON IS WE’RE BOTH WIZARDS UNDER THE SHEETS.’ Fox News looks at the improbable, colorful congressional bid by 87 year-old former Democratic Gov. Edwin Edwards: “‘80 is the new 60,’ he quips… [Edwards]was first elected to Congress 50 years ago and spent four terms as governor, spanning three decades. His career came crashing down in 1998 when he was indicted by the federal government and later found guilty on 17 of 26 counts for money laundering, mail fraud, extortion, wire fraud and racketeering. Edwards says he doesn’t think voters will hold his criminal past against him.”
Porchlight

Grimes' staffers, that is..

lyle

Grimes' staffers, that is..

Or just your run of the mill dem.

Extraneus

Is there anyone on our side more effective than James O'Keefe?

James D.

In hindsight he justified the lie by saying societal stigma against buggery and junkies prevented funding for HIV research, so he had to scare straights to pay up.

I wonder if there's any way to figure out how many more gay men contracted AIDS because of the lies and refusal to acknowledge reality of people like Fauci?

It's amazing how nearly every policy the left pushes to supposedly solve a problem and help a specific group of people ends up making the problem worse, and increasing the body count of the people it's purportedly intended to save.

NKrebooting

@1:39--

the NRA marketing and lobby people.

Captain Hate

Having roundly trashed Justice Roberts at every opportunity, I'm wondering if he read the tea leaves like Iggy did and is holding out to a time in the future when Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg can be replaced by somebody who actually abides by the Constitution to rule on homosexual marriage.

I'm still opposed to justice deferred but maybe that's the strategery.

Porchlight

It's pretty much universally acknowledged that the slowness to close the SF bathhouses resulted in thousands of unnecessary AIDS deaths.

It's the same thing today with the refusal to restrict flights from Ebola countries. Can't appear racist. What about the Liberian communities already here in the US, like the one in Dallas? Aren't we endangering them by allowing Liberian nationals to drop down in their midst? Because of course that's the first place most of them will go if they can make it over here and are still standing.

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