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November 20, 2014

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Sandy--fallow districts, fat capital--Daze

Primo ?

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

By the way,

I stand with Walker 2016.

That is all.

NKontheNovreboot

The Peter Pan Spectacular gets a TomM shoutout! Co-Starring Christopher Walken (WILTON/Block Island's Own!) as Capt Hook... Tick-Tock... Tick-Tock....

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

Well the the of us are having a grand old time here, me myself, and I.

Reminds me of Winkin, Blonkin, and Nod.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

*the three of us*

posting from a hand-held communicator is a female canine.

henry

If Obama is as good at matador stuff as he is a golf, the bull will have his ears.

Soylent Red

McConnell and Boehner aren't going to do jack shit about this, tough talk or not. Everyone knows it.

It would be nice if there was a party that represented my interests for a change, rather than those of the elected elite.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

! Blockin !

Blinkin's rarely mentioned brother who has a mind like a gruber...

Porchlight

Sometimes the bull wins.

Still don't know what McConnell and Boehner are supposed to do. What is the remedy for a rogue executive? We know impeachment isn't possible (yet).

Old Lurker

No Sandy, Tacklin is his brother.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

henry, the resident is the best matador in the room, if you don't believe that, just ask him...

Jeff Dobbs

shoulda refreshed.

Old Lurker

Wasn't this JiB's house in the LUN?

henry

Could be Sandy, Mooch hasn't trampled him yet.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

Solent, I hear you.

Interesting that Turley has been retained by the Speaker. Has spoken forcefully over constitutional process in every interview I've heard, sports Rule of Law, vice Law of Rule, even though I understand him to be a dyed-in-the-wool leftist.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

Tacklin !!!

HaHa HaHa

That is great, OL :-)

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

Mooch...

Well in a matador's arena, wouldn't she be Elsie the cow ?

lyle

Turley is just window dressing. He's more worried that a President Cruz will enact legislation to require mandatory possession of a firearm, overturn Roe, and force all university endowments to start paying taxes. Okay, maybe those are president lyle's legislative initiatives...

Danube on iPad

Mukasey's rationale was that the courts would declare it a political qyestion and decline to hear it.

No one was ever going to deport these people anyway, so this doesn't really blow that much air up my dress. Let's see what he does beyond making that official.

Extraneus

$140M? How much for one with a dock?

Old Lurker

Lyle, I'd be happy to just make those college endowments buy any student loan Note that is 90 days in arrears from the original lender, at par.

Porchlight

Doesn't the "screw separation of powers, I can do what I want, try and stop me" part bother you, DoT?

Surely this is only the beginning (actually not the beginning, but maybe the beginning of the major ramp up).

Old Lurker

A dock? Then you're talking BIG money, Ext.

lyle

Speaking of Tinkerbell, anyone remember this guy?

“We’re here to answer to the people, all of the people, not just the ones that are wearing our particular party label,” he said. “What [voters] don’t expect is for one party, be it Republican or Democrat, to change the rules in the middle of the game so they can make all the decisions while the other party is told to sit down and keep quiet.” Even more important: The “nuclear option” — whereby the filibuster is abolished by a simple majority — “doesn’t serve anyone’s best interests and it certainly isn’t what the patriots who founded this democracy had in mind.”
Iggy

--Umm, matadors do that because bulls are stupid and predictable...--

I have a hunch TM has never had the privilege of being in a confined space such as a chute, corral or cattle truck with a couple thousand pounds of agitated bull.
I have found them to be neither.

henry

Obama & Holder are predictable. email proves White House & DOJ targeted Attkisson in F&F coverup. Chickens the size of bulls coming home to roost. (ht Mel).

Captain Hate on the iPad

Every time that DoT says he doesn't mind when the laws aren't enforced by people who took an oath to do so, a kitten is thrown in a Korean meat grinder.

jimmyk

Doesn't the "screw separation of powers, I can do what I want, try and stop me" part bother you, DoT?,

Exactly, it's the principle, not the specific issue, plus the fact that like any punk, if we let him get away with this, he will only up the ante next round.

lyle

I'll second your 5:00, OL.

maryrose

henry:
This is a bombshell! No wonder Holder is heading for the exits. I am sure one of these scandals will be the undoing of Obama. If only we had a Gap blue stained dress...

Soylent Red

Surely this is only the beginning (actually not the beginning, but maybe the beginning of the major ramp up).

Yup. Once he figures out he can do it with the tiniest sliver of legal cover, and that Orange and Bitch aren't going to lift a finger to stop him, the motherfcuker is going to spend the next two years turning us into Venezuela.

The way to stop a street punk like Obama is to hit him hard and often until he backs off, otherwise they will just keep pushing and pushing. There isn't any GOPe leadership willing to do much more than issue stern statements of concern.

We'll be lucky if the asshole decides to step down in January 2017.

Sandy--I Stand With Walker 2016--Daze

I see your point, lyle, but Turley would be even more credible in arguing against this action because of his unqualified leftist bonafides...

If he argues against the resident's action, I expect it to be no holds barred. IANAL, but I think he is sincere in his support for the constitutional order.

Sincerity in Lawyer ?!?! And it is barely after 5pm, maybe it is what I'm smoking...

Soylent Red

a kitten is thrown in a Korean meat grinder.

Mmmm...catgogi.

maryrose

CH and jimmyk
Actions have consequences which is why the defeat of Begich in Alaska is my favorite!
How dare you take down a sitting Senator {Ted Stevens}by withholding evidence and a false prosecution! Cheaters never prosper for long.

Dave (in MA)

I have complete confidence that Tippy Turtle and the Orange Crybaby are going to do Jack Squat.

Ben

"Yup. Once he figures out he can do it with the tiniest sliver of legal cover"

It's all he needs, a sliver, and y'all showed him the path so bone it up.

maryrose

I like Turley and he is a true believer in what is constitutional. The joke here is Obama fancies himself smarter than Turley. Only time will tell if hubris will again be the undoing of Preezy.

maryrose

Ben: He is not getting away with a sliver of anything. The following trees are about to fall on his head.
Benghazi-Hil will also be a victim of hubris here
Fast and Furious
Obamacare Dental enrollments indeed!
Immigration meddling and failure to support laws on the books
Iran
gets a nuke
Putin saying take your sanctions and shove it
Defeat for dems in 2016.

lyle

I have found them to be neither.

Man, oh, man, can I affirm this. Bullriders are the craziest mofos on earth.

rse

Anyone else think today is an interesting day to make giving jobs to "disconnected youth" a top priority "for government and the private sector."

http://www.clasp.org/resources-and-publications/publication-1/Campaign-for-Youth-Road-Map-2014-Final-November.pdf

rse

Notice that the National Council for La Raza is one of the sponsors.

Extraneus

Why shouldn't a president do whatever he can get away with?

Limits on power are not limits if they rely on the good will or timidity of the person holding that power.

I would love to see a President Walker or Cruz push it to the wall.

Tom Maguire
...the bull will have his ears.

And that's a heck of a prize.

Captain Hate

Notice that the National Council for La Raza is one of the sponsors.

Ugh, so much for the credibility.

Regarding Turley, he's an honest lib with a respect for the Constitution; kind of like a less aggressive Dershowitz.

Porchlight

jimmyk, left a reply for you on the last thread re: Iowahawk. Hope you make it out tonight!

Tonto

@Old Lurker: " I'm still trying to understand what Tonto's brother was doing outside the Monterey Jail."

An even better question would be, "How did he recognize those mushrooms so swiftly and certainly?" He's a former Deadhead who now works as a naturalist for the city of Monterey. Do what you love, etc.

Beasts of England

Sorry for my earlier diatribe and its course language.

I live twenty miles from the home of the Klan. I remember driving through Pulaski, Tennessee as a teenager and having Klukkers in robes and hoods standing at intersections with KFC buckets trying to collect dollar bills from everyone stopped at the light. Terrifying. And I'm pretty much white.

My lake house is ten miles from Scottsboro, Alabama and two miles from Sand Mountain - two of the former most virulently racist places in the country. I've witnessed the Klan bumper stickers and treatment of blacks that is sickening. Most of that has ended over the last twenty years, but the memories remain.

That said, I view Sharpton a dark-skinned Kleagle in a bespoke suit, yet I lack the vocabulary to adequately capture my disdain for him. Pax

Porchlight

Ha, Tonto, my UCSC brother is a former Deadhead too, now working for Google.

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

Remember too that it isn't just Hispanics we're talkin' about here. Lots & lots & lots & lots are from the ME.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obamas-immigration-announcement/story?id=27052740

"Who Gets Relief?

4.1 million undocumented parents and families of U.S. citizens who have been in country more than 5 years with no criminal record."

Parents & families

lyle

Shake it off, Beasts. Were all grownups here. Or so I think...

Iggy

Hey henry, the House just increased duck stamp prices from $15 to $25.
Waddya gonna do about that?

Threadkiller

http://www.birtherreport.com/2014/11/video-sheriff-arpaio-speaks-forged.html?m=1

Maybe Howard Kurtz will take a look.

Hahahaha!!

Some Guy

Were all grownups here.

I was told that wasn't a prerequisite. Now, I'll have to find somewhere new.

maryd

Beasts, FWIW, I thought your original comment was spot on. XXOO

lyle

Growing old is inescapable, SG. Growing up is optional.

lyle

And for gawd's sake, DO NOT CLICK:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/393089/rand-paul-meets-al-sharpton-discuss-criminal-justice-reform-christine-sisto

Not that he was ever in the running for me, but Paul has crossed the Rubicon.

henry

Iggy, I'll keep hunting in Canada -- where the ducks are. ; )

That increase sucks, but is less painful than the run up in ammo prices -- I buy one stamp, but cases of ammo.

lyle

Listen up, yanquis:

Democratic congressman Luis Gutierrez had two words for Republican lawmakers condemning President Obama’s executive amnesty: “Stop whining.”
Danube on iPad

"Doesn't the 'screw separation of powers, I can do what I want, try and stop me' part bother you, DoT?"

Only if the propos d action is, indeed, beyond the power of the executive, which is not a slam dunk to me. When I hear Michael Mukasey say it isn't, it gets my attention. Nonetheless, I hope Turley sues and wins.

It bothers me isomewhat n this instance, CH, but remember, since 1986 we've had three terms of GOP presidents not doing anything either.

Tonto

Porchlight -- My brother also plays the guitar and worshipped Jerry Garcia like a god. He took me to a few Grateful Dead concerts at the Fillmore (he knew how to show his little sister a good time!) and I remember the strobe lights playing over the interpretative dancing hippies while those endless guitar solos played on as a special kind of hell.

lyle

Top. Men.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/393142/republican-leaders-urge-restraint-eliana-johnson

lyle

Ad infinitum:

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/111914-727280-unfunded-pensions-for-public-unions-threaten-states-fiscal-health.htm

4.7 Trillion

Iggy

LOL, Tonto.

Jane

Andy McCarthy's take is interesting:


No, ‘Prosecutorial Discretion’
Does Not Justify Obama’s Lawless Amnesty

Danube on iPad

Let us all put our heads together and see if we can figure out why Howard Kurtz, Fox News et al. would pay very serious attention to Grubergate (even though it's very harmful to Obama) but assiduously ignores every bulletin from the Birther Report.

Sure is a head-scratcher, ain't it?

Jane

I'm beginning to think it's a set up. Obama will get very very very close to the line, to rile up the right and hope for a big fight that he can blame on us and get his party back. He's dying to shut the government down.

Maybe we should just shut up, and plot revenge until January.

Jane

The Koch Brothers choice for the next president is being interviewed by Brett.

exdemocrat

Btw, has anyone on here been through - or just attended - one of these? http://becuo.com/american-citizenship-ceremony

i have. and, imho, it's a significantly different 'new beginning' to something like this: http://toprightnews.com/?p=7281

Danube on iPad

I think you're onto something, Jane.

It mat be that the Youngsyown Sheet & Tube case may pit some daylight between what Reagan-Bush did and what Obama is proposing to do.

Threadkiller

Should Kurtz look into the Khalidi tape, Danube?

GMax

I think its a big nothing burger, he has not been deporting folks anyway. He wont deliberately create law out of ether.

narciso

It's amusing, really, we worry about even mentioning impeachment, because we may not have the vote. You note the left doesn't have those scruples, they turned a botched political intelligence exercise, into a high crime, they ran a through a baker's dozen of Reagan's cabinet, they got maybe one or two, Scalia did raise the Olsen appeal, memories run short, apparently even for him, they went after North, even running roughshod over procedure, as they did with an earlier
Watergate figure, that Clarice knows well,

When the statute lapsed, they memorized Olsen and 'salted the battlefield, in defense of the Razorback Borgia and his retinue,they shredded Ken Starr's reputation like confetti, then the statute lapsed,

Extraneus

I disagree with McCarthy. The president *can* decide not to prosecute certain crimes, and there is nothing in the Constitution that forces him to prosecute those crimes.

If a US Attorney made such a decision, he could be fired, but only if the president chose to fire him.

The president can only be fired through impeachment, but it is not a high crime or misdemeanor to instruct the Justice Department and US Attorneys not to prosecute certain crimes, although it surely is a violation of his oath to see that the laws are faithfully executed.

Should he choose to take this path, the only recourse short of impeachment is the ballot box.

It's unlikely that Obama will announce a flagrant violation of the Constitution tonight. On the other hand, it's likely that he'll announce something that the majority of voters will oppose, endangering Democrats in 2016.

Captain Hate

but remember, since 1986 we've had three terms of GOP presidents not doing anything either.

I haven't been leading the cheers for them either.

Captain Hate

I linked the underlying article on a previous thread but here's the Ewok's take on this:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=353284

narciso

After criminalizing an election victory, they were able to resurrect the special counsel, by
appealing to the unethical and ambitious junior Justice Dept official, and they were off to the raises, of course we know wnat they did to Newt in the previous interval, they weaponized one good government rule, through Ronnie Earle to get at the Hammer, they allowed suborned testimony to get a bogus indictment of Stevens,
then they turned their guns on perhaps the honest public servant, and forced to chose between bankruptcy and holding her office,

Jim Miller

First, credit to Tom Maguire to paying attention to the bull metaphor.

(Those who don't pay attention to metaphors often produce unintentionally comic effects. I usually try to visualize metaphors, so I often end up chuckling at an argument that is intended to be serious. Or just groaning, if I have seen the mistake a hundred times before.)

However.

Unless you happen to be a trained and experienced matador, you should not provoke a bull. (And even matadors have a lot of help near by, just in case they miscalculate.)

One of my nephews grew up on a dairy farm and he and I were discussing just how dangerous bulls are. He told me that every dairy farmer that he knew who kept a bull for any length of time got injured by it, at some point.

And those farmers are way more experienced in working with bulls than the average person, especially a person who has never spent any time on a farm.

Tonto

Narciso -- Your 6:43 post is dishearteningly on point. "Razorback Brogia", however, is a mood lifter!

Extraneus

they weaponized one good government rule, through Ronnie Earle to get at the Hammer

Channeling Gruber: The rule that an indictment was tantamount to a conviction was stupid.

GMax

Every once in awhile the matador has to make a mad dash to a wooden barrier. And occasionally he does not get there and gets gored, stomped or maybe both. I can dream now cant I?

Danube on iPad

"I haven't been leading the cheers for them either."

I haven't either, CH. But I don't see any reason to become more exercised about this instance, other than that I hate Obama.

Extraneus

Nice to have Tonto here, in my view.

Jim Miller

BTW, it's too bad that Rand Paul didn't bring his dad along to that meeting, perhaps with some samples of those old newsletters that -- if I recall correctly -- Ron claims not to have read.

Or his former aide and ghost writer, Jack Hunter, the "Southern Avenger".

Either would have made the meeting even more interesting.

GMax

I am pretty sure this is nowhere as popular as Zero hopes, and it will put an already endangered species, Democrats in further jeopardy. Since he can not give them citizenship, and any executive action ends at the end of ever approaching end of his term. I am not going to get worked up about this, other than to watch Democrats sizzle on the griddle. I have been right about that for some time now, AND I think I am reading this exactly right one more time.

RickB

Jane,

Things will be done before January. They won't be "exciting" or "in your face" but the majority controls committee numbers, staff budgets and allowances and minority personnel allotments. The appropriate response is to bleed the Fascists in those areas until they scream for BOzo to sit down and shut up.

January will mark the beginning of two years of vivisection.

boris

"No one was ever going to deport these people anyway"

Which ignores that 5 years from now there will be a much larger group that "No one was ever going to deport ... anyway".

Shortsighted to excuse this as something most people would support if it solved a problem without creating a bigger one down the road.

Threadkiller

GMax, see TM's YouTube link.

narciso

well I'm sure he didn't bring up, Freddie's Fashion Mart or Tawana Brawley either, although they won't be so circumspect the next time,

So then they didn't take Walker's election as a fait accompli, they pushed for the first recall in state history, and then went after the supreme court justice, and then came the John Does in the background,

Jane

It's funny Dot, I just went on Facebook and Clarice also posted that she thinks it's a set up. So maybe we are all getting on the same page.

Comanche Voter

Well hellfire--when Good King Obozo goes all Stalinist dictator on us, a red flag is appropriate.

As I understand it, Josef Stalin was a clean cut Georgian from the Georgian Republic who spoke Russian with a clear accent. Prince Josef Bidenski told me so. Unlike Stalin, Good King Obozo doesn't have any bank robberies in his background. He prefers to rob the American taxpayer, and destroy the health system--do you think Rasputin would last long if he was enrolled in Obamacare? He also gets off on trampling the constitution. He'll have an armed rabble behind him--five million Hispanics with lawnmowers, butcher knives, and hedge clippers in their hands.

Jane

Nice to have Tonto here, in my view.

I agree!

Skoot

How wonderful it would be if some enterprising hackers hijacked the Univision broadcast and played a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon over zero's proclamation decree!

Steve

Watch Live Stream: President Obama Delivers an Address to the Nation

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2014/11/watch-live-president-obama-delivers.html

Jeff Dobbs

Yeah, McConnell messed up that metaphor. I think he meant, "like a rodeo clown waving an Obama mask in front of a bull"

Ben

" played a Speedy Gonzalez cartoon over zero's proclamation decree!"

Or how about the Frito Bandito?

Really wasn't the Emancipation Proclamation of the same order"

Shuck and Jive you merry minstrels !

GMax

An NBC/WSJ poll released yesterday supports my reading of the electorate BTW:

By a clear 56% to 33% margin, those surveyed don’t want Mr. Obama to take the lead role in setting policy, preferring that Congress take the lead role…The 56% who now want Congress to take the lead role in policy making is a high water mark in the poll’s history. The WSJ/NBC poll found Americans are pleased that the Republican victories in this month’s midterm elections were broadly viewed as a rebuke to the president – 53% said they feel positive about the idea that “fewer people were elected who support President Obama’s legislative agenda.” Only 41% said they feel badly about candidates who back Mr. Obama’s agenda losing.

Zero is playing with matches in the middle of a refinery, and his home team is the one going to get burned. Bring it Zero. I am fairly certain history is going judge you a huge failure who squandered an advantage and even consigned his party to minority status for a generation...

boatbuilder

Would it be inappropriate to call Obama's action "divisive?" Not in the spirit of "getting together to govern in a bipartisan fashion" as the electorate that just voted all those Dems out of office supposedly wants the Republicans to do? Any comments from our betters on the damage this is doing to the constructive lawmaking relationship and spirit of bipartisan harmony that the founders so fondly hoped for so government could accomplish so much?

I stand with Scott Walker (only because Ted Cruz doesn't appear to be in the running at this point).

GMax

Shuck and Jive you merry minstrels !

Said the head feather passer with nary a speck of introspection...

Skoot

heh. rent free in sum bitches head.

Ben

Illegals are close to slave-labor in status. Many are effectively piece-workers with the cover of minimum wage because they have quotas for field work that I've seen as high as 2000 lbs of produce per day.Of course they still get the wages for hours worked that day, but are looking for a job the next.

And there aren't any longer camps for 'Braceros' where living costs were subsidized. today illegals have to find food and lodging without such.

So an Emancipation Proclamation is not really that far off

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