With all the to-ing and fro-ing about what did or did not happen at UVA two years ago, these two sexual assault stories from far, far away in fly-over country failed to attract the attention of the national press, enraged feminists, or much of anyone. We all know the reasons (spoiler alert: non-elite colleges, too few members of the white patriarchy), but here are the stories:
William Patterson University, Wayne NJ:
New details in William Paterson gang rape allegations: Men blocked door during violent attack
WAYNE — The men accused of sexually assaulting a William Paterson University student blocked the residence hall doorway, restrained the victim, and demanded that she have sex with all five of them, according to criminal complaints filed against the students on Saturday.
The criminal complaints, though brief, detail an alleged violent sexual attack involving the five men–all William Paterson students–and the female student in the dorm room Tuesday night.
Yes, that was Tuesday, Nov. 25. Yes, 2014. Yes, last week:
With an impending snowstorm on Wednesday and Thanksgiving falling on Thursday, there were few people on the campus, she said. And most people commute to class anyway.
"There wasn't anybody here," she said. "It was kind of like a ghost town."
A week later we have arrests and bail:
PATERSON — A Superior Court judge ruled that five men accused of raping a fellow student at a William Paterson University residence hall last week are not flight risks and should have their bail significantly lowered.
Passaic County Superior Court Judge Marilyn C. Clark lowered bail for freshman students Noah Williams, Darius Singleton, Garrett Collick, Termaine Scott and Jahmel Latimer from $200,000 to $50,000 at a court hearing Tuesday morning.
...
Criminal complaints filed against the men offer only a cloudy account of what allegedly took place.
According to the complaints, the men used physical force or coercion to keep the victim in the room during the assault, turning the lights off and blocking the exit.
One of the defendants, Garrett Collick, of Paterson, told the victim that if she wanted to have sex with him, she would have to "have sex with all of them," the complaint said. At some point during the alleged assault, Jahmel Latimer entered the room, asked what was happening, and then proceeded to rape the victim, the complaints said.
And also far from any media center:
Ramapo College, Mahwah NJ:
2 Ramapo College students charged in sex assault on campus, officials say
MAHWAH — Two Ramapo College students were charged with sexually assaulting a fellow student at a dorm room on campus after a fraternity party, officials said Tuesday.
Nakeem D. Gardner, 18, of Paterson, and Christian A. Lopez, 24, of Secaucus, were arrested Monday and charged with two counts of aggravated sexual assault, Bergen County Prosecutor John L. Molinelli said in a statement.
Authorities launched an investigation after the woman went to Hackensack University Medical Center Saturday and reported she had been sexually assaulted, Molinelli said. Hospital officials immediately alerted police.
The victim told detectives she attended a fraternity party Friday night lasting into early Saturday, the prosecutor said.
“On Saturday morning she awoke in a state of undress in a dorm room on the college campus and believed she had been sexually assaulted,” Molinelli said.
So she basically got up, went to the hospital, then went to the police. It's a blur - what about spending a year or two with a support group before reporting this?
Subsequently:
3 more Ramapo College students charged in campus sex assault, prosecutor says
MAHWAH — Three additional Ramapo College students were arrested Monday in connection with the sexual assault of a fellow student at a dorm room on campus, officials said.
Justin Sommers and Christopher Rainone, both 18 of Staten Island, New York, were charged with endangering an injured victim and invasion of privacy, Prosecutor John L. Molinelli said in a statement. Jordyn Massood, also 18, of Wayne, was charged with endangering an injured victim.
All three were arrested on campus without incident and released ahead of appearances in municipal court, according to Molinelli.
Two students who were already charged with assaulting the woman after a fraternity party Nov. 15 -- Christian A. Lopez, 24, of Secaucus, and Nakeem D. Gardner, 18, of Paterson -- now face new charges, the prosecutor added.
...
Those arrested Monday “each aided or encouraged” Lopez and Gardner during the sexual assault, the prosecutor said. Sommers and Rainone allegedly took pictures of the victim without her consent.
Charges of criminal restraint, endangering an injured victim and invasion of privacy were added for Lopez, who remains held at the Bergen County Jail, Molinelli said.
Lopez was also accused of “inappropriately touching” another female Ramapo student, Molinelli said. Authorities added a charge of criminal sexual contact for that alleged incident, but did not elaborate.
I don't know how I missed these stories. Yes I do.
What the hey, JOM said, TM launched another thread
Posted by: daddy | December 04, 2014 at 12:39 AM
Off?
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 04, 2014 at 12:44 AM
Guess these girls' friends didn't tell them to put some ice on it and man up.
No doubt this is war on women material, but if young women really are being raped left and right at wild frat parties, mightn't it be prudent, as GHWB might say, for young women to maybe avoid them?
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 12:52 AM
I don't think it was on PD.
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 12:53 AM
You are correct, just looked on.
Young women should be armed on/off campus, far less likely to be accosted. Carrying under the influence might be an issue though...
Posted by: PDinDetroit | December 04, 2014 at 12:58 AM
This type of stuff never happened before.
I'm sure there is a race angle.
Posted by: GUS | December 04, 2014 at 01:00 AM
"One of the things about being President is, news breaks, and it's important to people to hear how I feel and how I'm thinking about some important issues that we face in this nation."
Posted by: daddy | December 04, 2014 at 01:11 AM
--Carrying under the influence might be an issue though...--
Yeah, and carrying doesn't do much good if somebody slips you a Mickey.
--You are correct, just looked on.--
Yeah I thought it was at first too. Neo always fools me the same way.
And, time to sleep.
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 01:16 AM
Oops, before beddy bye one final great Federalist link;
‘Do They Know It’s Christmas’ Is The Worst Christmas Song Ever
Bob Geldof must have felt this kick to the nuts across the Atlantic.
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 01:27 AM
Bob Gelded has no balls, He's a tool.
"I don't like Monday's".
Posted by: GUS | December 04, 2014 at 01:33 AM
Women should be able to choose or choose NOT to protect themselves with a firearm.
No different than men.
Posted by: GUS | December 04, 2014 at 01:37 AM
‘Do They Know It’s Christmas’ Is The Worst Christmas Song Ever
Iggy,
There's a lot of songs in the running for the category of "Worst Christmas Song Ever," but
I got my hair cut today at my Hispanic guys threadbare Barber Shop in a local strip mall. As usual I was the only guy in the place except that today my daughter home from College break was with me and she came in and watched while he made fun jokey comments to us for the 5 minutes or so it took to shave me. The Barber had on a Christian Rock Station, and I heard this Christmas tune playing and it had a nice catchy refrain that stuck in my head so here it is if anyone cares:
I finally Figured Out What Christmas Is All About
Not Irving Berlin and 'der Bingle of course, but I was glad to hear it and nice to know it's out there for kids sick of pretentious Rock Stars.
Posted by: daddy | December 04, 2014 at 01:55 AM
Daddy, I know that song. It's awesome.
Before I forget. Merry Christmas. God Bless you Daddy, and God Bless all of our fellow JOM'ers.
Posted by: GUS | December 04, 2014 at 02:25 AM
Posted by: daddy | December 04, 2014 at 04:48 AM
I stand with Iggy on the "chokehold."
Virtually impossible for an arm around that fat guy's neck to occlude ANYTHING with the position the cop was in; definitely did NOT occlude his trachea--he was talking--can't talk when you aren't moving air.
I suspect his asthma ( on top of his obesity) played a huge role in his demise, which would have been seen on microscopic pathology.
ME should never ever ever have said what he said as early as he did.
Posted by: anonamom | December 04, 2014 at 05:45 AM
Good morning, all.
That article for the worst Christmas song makes a good case.
I also think "And So This is Christmas" and "Christmas Shoes" should be in the running.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 06:37 AM
I like the Christmas jingle running on the Walmart commercial ('a little more Joy for Christmas ...'). Kinda catchy.
link
Posted by: danoso | December 04, 2014 at 06:45 AM
Good morning all.
The best Christmas song evah is Porky Pig singing Blue Christmas. Hands down the winner by far.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 04, 2014 at 07:15 AM
"And So This is Christmas" is the worst imo. I turn the station any time it comes on and I love listening to Christmas music.
Well done, Rupert; do you discuss this with the Ferret in your tete a tetes or just how you've destroyed your Gazette?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/393886/ted-cruz-tries-and-fails-win-over-wsj-joel-gehrke
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 04, 2014 at 07:18 AM
It's ever too early for the greatest Christmas song ever. Robert Earl Keen:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P37xPiRz1sg
Posted by: Beasts of England | December 04, 2014 at 07:53 AM
Greatest Christmas songs, compiled by CBS FM:
http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/music0_christmas.html
Posted by: Extraneus | December 04, 2014 at 07:58 AM
Last night I was reading and didn't realize until it was too late that I had hit the channel on the remote to CNN. Actually,I had to laugh because the reporter (Chris Cuomo) was walking with the protesters and said,this is a diverse group of people,including obnoxious college students,who I guess were shouting some invective his way. Ha.
Posted by: Marlene | December 04, 2014 at 07:59 AM
daddy-- great photo of a working border collie (cute caption as well.) I've been to sheep herder demonstrations in the US and Ireland-- the working border colies are so lean and filled with energy, and are just extraordinary workers.
My 10yo border after surgery? Ugh. He needs almost complete attention until his stitches come out a week from saturday, I am on duty this weekend.
Posted by: NKontheNovreboot | December 04, 2014 at 08:02 AM
Robert Earl Keen is a very good songwriter. Joe Ely does his songs well.
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 04, 2014 at 08:03 AM
Don't forget: the 3-day Marion Barry funeral starts tomorrow. Anyone going into DC should check for road closures and times of the processionals.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 08:08 AM
cops gone wild. An hour and twenty minutes of news stories. did you know statistics show you are 8 times more likely to be killed by a cop than you are terrorists?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rao33ZYlrq4
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 08:09 AM
I kind of know the answer already, but I'll throw this out to the engineering/aerospace types on the blog:
How is it that in the 60's, we were able to go in eight years from launching chimps in Mercury capsules to landing Apollo XI on the moon and returning it safely; but it's going to take us seven years to go from the first unmanned Orion test flight today (assuming it goes at all) to the first manned test flight currently scheduled for 2021?
Posted by: James D. | December 04, 2014 at 08:13 AM
The color of the year for 2015 has been chosen.
Marsala.
Posted by: Extraneus | December 04, 2014 at 08:14 AM
http://dailysignal.com/2014/12/04/federal-agency-faces-fallout-controversial-study-put-babies-risk/
Ah yes, the NIH rears its ugly head again.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 08:15 AM
Posted by: Extraneus | December 04, 2014 at 08:16 AM
Color me confused.
When I make Chicken Marsala, the Marsala cooking wine is white with an undertone of yellow.
Where did this light burgundy Marsala come from?
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 08:20 AM
Beasts:
It's ever too early for the greatest Christmas song ever. Robert Earl Keen
Love that song. Just heard Montgomery Gentry doing a version of it on the radio this morning. Glad the song is getting air time . . . but Keene's version is MUCH better.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | December 04, 2014 at 08:28 AM
My sister in law keeps a pen with 6-10 chickens and named one of the hens Marsala.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | December 04, 2014 at 08:31 AM
Further proof that the fat man should not be President:
"A new report from Moody’s Investors Service warns that two of New Jersey’s largest public employee pensions will run out of money and exhaust their underlying assets within ten years.
Moody’s says the New Jersey Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) and the Teachers’ Pension and Annuity Fund (TPAF) “could fully expend their assets as soon as 2024 and 2027… even assuming the funds meet assumed investment returns.”
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 08:33 AM
hit,
Your sister sounds funny. Does she also have hens named Kiev, Cacciatore, and Divan?
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 08:34 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/top-five-filmmaker-chris-rock-753223?mobile_redirect=false
Interesting perspective on Hollywood and blacks in the industry.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 08:36 AM
New poll has Landrieu within 24
Posted by: Extraneus | December 04, 2014 at 08:41 AM
Marsala is often a red wine; although there are white versions, as well, named for a specific wine region in Italy, Miss Marple.
Posted by: Beasts of England | December 04, 2014 at 08:43 AM
Normally, we would be able to see the launches from KSC but today we are socked in with thick fog. Less than 100 feet of visibility.
They won't launch until the winds subside below 21knots and that is unlikely as the sun comes up and the air gets warmer. 9:44 current launch time.
JamesD,
NASA has to give more time for their Muslim outreach program to catch up with today's science. Ergo, the longer delay between test and reality.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 04, 2014 at 08:45 AM
Gee.
LENA DUNHAM ‘RAPED BY A REPUBLICAN’ STORY IN BESTSELLER COLLAPSES UNDER SCRUTINY
Posted by: Extraneus | December 04, 2014 at 08:49 AM
Having one's way with Lena Dunham is right up there with doing it on a pile of broken glass.
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 08:50 AM
And as we all suspected GOPe former head never did understand the historical underpinnings of our judicial system and why they were meant to be different that in a monarchy...
"Former RNC Chairman Michael Steele said on MSNBC today he’s very troubled by the Eric Garner grand jury decision and said it’s “part of the same narrative” as Ferguson: devaluing black lives.
“A prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich?” Steele said. “Well, clearly a black man’s life is not worth a ham sandwich when you put these stories together. And that is the frustration that a lot of African-Americans see.”
Steele said at the very least, these cases should go to a jury, because otherwise it’s just salt in the wound for a community that thinks they’re not getting a fair shake."
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 09:00 AM
Miss Marple:
Your sister sounds funny. Does she also have hens named Kiev, Cacciatore, and Divan?
I can't remember the other names at the moment (she's been through a bunch with the hawks and coyotes). But we do have a fish named . . . Filet.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | December 04, 2014 at 09:05 AM
Posted by: Cecil Turner | December 04, 2014 at 09:08 AM
Shot in the head with a rubber bullet?
Bwahaaaaaaaa...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63FEamhpA0
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 09:10 AM
Steele really ticks me off. Like a true sheltered government hack, he seems to have no grasp of how devastating, risky and bankrupting is any prosecution which pits a private citizen against the unlimited resources of the government. He would subject any cop involved in any B-W incident to the real risk of his freedom and bankruptcy? Really?
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 09:11 AM
I saw the Right Stuff, I saw the early test flights for the Vanguard, it does seem we've lost something in the bargain, as Charlie would remind us, a proper respect for Islam, would include a greater effort at space exploration, instead of the Wahhabi perspective, symbolized by Sheikh Bin Baz, which is Ptolemaic,
Posted by: narciso | December 04, 2014 at 09:13 AM
I read the Breitbart-Nolte story about the Dunham pig being a liar. And she is a liar. But the fact that she's a liar matters not to her fans. The Sophie kid from the Oberlin radio station says it plainly.... FACTS DON'T MATTER. If fat Lena is lying about the guy, there is no reason to prove the lie, because fat Lena is 'trying to help' girls who have remorse about who they let pork 'em. Make a mistake, have sex, feel remorse, take revenge by having the guy expelled from college, or worse. Those are the simple truthes about the 'epidemic of campus rape'. Meanwhile real rape, is treated the same way as this shite. This is the toxic society that Progs create when the control an institution, like the college campus.
Posted by: NKontheNovreboot | December 04, 2014 at 09:15 AM
As a very wise lass once observed "Men are pigs. Girls lie."
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 09:18 AM
Based on a fairly large sample, you can get into Oberlin if you're really good in music or have gone full retard. Sometimes both.
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 04, 2014 at 09:21 AM
Steele is a clown.
From where I sit (and y'all know I'm no fan of the police these days), real civillian oversight of police (and prosecutors, and judges), with real (not necessarily criminal) consequences for their failures and errors, combined with far stricter screening and selection of who gets these jobs in the first place, and far better training, would solve the vast majority of problems.
But all that is probably just wishful thinking.
Posted by: James D. | December 04, 2014 at 09:22 AM
I want to say good things about Steele but he always makes an ass out of himself when he goes on MSNBC. Likewise every other Republican except Kristol.
Posted by: Captain Hate | December 04, 2014 at 09:25 AM
The hardest Christmas Vacation quiz evah!!
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rachelg34/the-hardest-christmas-vacation-quiz-youll-ever-7y4q?s=mobile
I only got 6 of 14 correct...
Posted by: Beasts of England | December 04, 2014 at 09:28 AM
an explanation for the Medici's behavior,
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2014/12/02/that-moment-when-you-realize-theyre-grubering-you/
Posted by: narciso | December 04, 2014 at 09:30 AM
Paris and other cities in Europe are famous for their "no-go" zones where the city government has ceded control to the locals. I don't care how well trained, careful and well meaning a white cop is, if he knows that any routine act of policing a black person, assuming he lives through it, might then subject him to jail and bankruptcy will lead inevitably to no-go zones in our own cities. That of course will complete the Balkanization of the country and produce different systems of justice for different neighborhoods.
I'm for everything James says, but adopting a sense that these two Grand Juries were wrong on the face of their decisions is dangerous.
Posted by: Old Lurker | December 04, 2014 at 09:31 AM
Lena's book is no different than Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father".
Both are full of made up crap.
Posted by: Janet - I wish my family had a poncho | December 04, 2014 at 09:38 AM
"he seems to have no grasp of how devastating, risky and bankrupting is any prosecution which pits a private citizen against the unlimited resources of the government. "
And no grasp of how inflammatory it is to bring race into it, which should have been learned twice over from the Trayvon and Brown cases. Even as one who expressed some reservations over the police work, I am completely disgusted by Steele/Holder/Obama's and others' turning this into something racial.
Posted by: jimmyk on iPhone | December 04, 2014 at 09:39 AM
"I'm for everything James says, but adopting a sense that these two Grand Juries were wrong on the face of their decisions is dangerous."
The GJ is not to blame, ffs.
They can only operate with information they are given by the DA.
If it were a trial, it would be synonymous with the DA failing to disclose exculpatory evidence to the defense.
Your rocking chair is making you swoon.
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 09:44 AM
I agree with OL.
I don't think either case should have gone to a grand jury at all. That's where some intermediate step of accountability ought to exist - where we can judge whether the police made a mistake - which might well justify firing them (and maybe further sanction, like taking away their right to carry a weapon even as a civilian, for situations like the L.A. cops who shot up the wrong colored truck with the wrong colored, aged and gendered occupants during the Dormer manhunt).
One other point: as regular citizens, we are all subject to a lot of strict-liability laws, where, if we do certain things, possess certain items in certain jurisdictions, etc., we are criminially liable and will face felony charges and years in prison, even if there was no criminal intent, or even knowledge that what we were doing even was a crime in that jurisdiction.
As long as we as regular citizens are subject to that, the people who enforce the laws (and who write them!) do need to be subject to much stricter oversight, and should have a lot less tolerance for mistakes they make.
Posted by: James D. | December 04, 2014 at 09:50 AM
Janet:
Lena's book is no different than Obama's book, "Dreams From My Father".
It was a composite rape.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | December 04, 2014 at 09:57 AM
The GJ is not to blame, ffs.
They can only operate with information they are given by the DA.
Oh, nonsense. A GJ is not like a trial jury, they have considerably more latitude, including the ability to ask questions or even conduct independent investigations.
Moreover, this "blame the prosecutor" meme is a
Ferguson straw-grasping exercise, designed to pressure the DA to bring charges directly, because every sensible person knew the evidence didn't support a criminal charge and it wouldn't survive its first exposure to a jury. And, of course, it didn't.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | December 04, 2014 at 10:01 AM
Beasts,
Thank you for the information on Marsala wine. My wine purchases are usually Chilean and Australian at Kroger. LOL!
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 10:03 AM
" A GJ is not like a trial jury"
That's the point, if you had actually read the comment.
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 10:03 AM
--but it's going to take us seven years to go from the first unmanned Orion test flight today (assuming it goes at all) to the first manned test flight currently scheduled for 2021?--
Well, it's gonna be delayed a couple more years just waiting for a President who can pronounce it.
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 10:07 AM
There doesn't appear to be any evidence either DA withheld any evidence, credible or not, from either GJ.
That the Ferguson GJ transcripts were released and the NY one wishes to are attempts to make the process as transparent as possible.
There are cases of police brutality, excessive force and corruption. Here's an idea; lets save the outrage for those real cases not convenient media creations.
Posted by: Iggy | December 04, 2014 at 10:11 AM
"There doesn't appear to be any evidence either DA withheld any evidence..."
LOL.
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 10:12 AM
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowldc/special-report-with-bret-baier-tops-several-evening-newscasts_b135458
Bret is beating NETWORK news in several markets.
Posted by: Miss Marple | December 04, 2014 at 10:21 AM
Most are delighted at the price-at-the-pump without knowing the down-side.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102236586?trknav=homestack:topnews:6
"The flow of petrodollars into the global financial system boosted liquidity, spurred asset prices and helped to keep borrowing costs down.
But the 40 per cent fall in Brent crude since mid-June will reverse this trend, as the shrinkage of the oil producers' cash pile removes a pillar of support for global markets.
"This is the first time in 20 years that Opec nations will be sucking liquidity out of the market rather than adding to it through investments," David Spegel, global head of emerging market sovereign and corporate research at BNP Paribas.
BNP estimates that if oil production remains at its current level and oil prices stay at about $70 a barrel for the next year, Opec nations will receive $316bn less in oil export revenues than if oil prices were at their three-year average of $105.
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 10:26 AM
That's the point, if you had actually read the comment.
LOL.
Posted by: Cecil Turner | December 04, 2014 at 10:28 AM
LOL. Who killed Michael Brown?
https://www.markfiore.com/
Posted by: Ben | December 04, 2014 at 10:37 AM
Our media have a sort of "who cares" attitude if it happens down on the black plantation. William Paterson University and at least the faces of the alleged assailants appear to be black. So move on, nothing to see here.
Frankly the level and number of homicides--or should I properly identify them as outright murders, in the black and Latino neighborhoods of our big cities draws zero interest from the press.
Posted by: Comanche Voter | December 04, 2014 at 01:20 PM