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December 05, 2014

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anonamom

OOPS! Rolling Stone might have made a boo boo in the story re: UVa "gang rape."

Sorry "to anyone who may have been affected."


http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/a-note-to-our-readers-20141205

Is there such a thing as an editor any more?

anonamom

So, will the settlement mean the end RS?

anonamom

NK, what is it your oh-so-wise daughter says?

"Boys are pigs.. and girls lie."

Eric in Boise

It's FBA* rape.

*Fake but accurate

Thomas Collins

The new Rolling Stone theme song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmFRvpwVSwo

Eric in Boise

The comments to the "Note to Our Readers" are great. RS being beaten like a rented mule. Threats/hopes of lawsuits flying thick and fast. Hilarity ensuing.

::munching popcorn::

Iggy

Jack Dunphy, former cop, at NRO, on the question of excessive force and the Garner arrest.

Old Lurker

Why should UVa not sue RS for the damage done?

Iggy

Comment at RS;

Jim Turner • 39 minutes ago

Well, at least you didn't turn it into a major story, with serious consequences before you checked it out.....


peter

The house of cards is coming down even faster than predicted. Hope that fraternity sues RS; could be some interesting discovery proceedings.

daddy

From TM's link:

A name of an alleged attacker that Jackie provided to them for the first time this week, for example, turned out to be similar to the name of a student who belongs to a different fraternity, and no one by that name has been a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

Reached by phone, that man, a U-Va. graduate, said Friday that he did work at the Aquatic Fitness Center and was familiar with Jackie’s name. He said, however, that he had never met Jackie in person and had never taken her on a date. He also confirmed that he was not a member of Phi Kappa Psi.

Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue.

peter

Interesting legal question: there is such a thing as commercial defamation, and there are of course, claims for defamation of an individual. Can a social club sue for defamation? None of the alleged gang rapists was named individually.

Captain Hate

I never thought I'd say this but I'm firmly on the side of Perky Katie's school.

Btw, zombie @ AoS has commented that this is part and parcel of teh Left's war on fraternities. She has noticed this multiple times at Berserkely.

daddy

Breaking on FOX: Boehner vows to Avoid Govt ShutSown.

I guess that partially answers my previous question of what behavior by an out of control President would cause Boehner and McConnell to actually defund those actions and/or shut down the Government, at least in regards to Blanket Amnesty for Illegals.

Now Pelosi is on TV saying she will only support something that comes out of the House that funds Government.

anonamom

If the frat doesn't sue them, I will, as the mother of sons.
I am tired to the bone of anybody with testicles being characterized as a criminal.

Jeff Dobbs

Statement from Phi Kappa Psi

anonamom

They've closed down the comments!

Captain Hate

#ProudToBeAHoo

My God, I feel overly clean...

Old Lurker

Peter, I think the University has suffered even more that the fraternity. Hell, you and I have both been injured.

peter

OL, let's call 1-800-I AM DEFAMED and hire an attorney! It's all so funny, because the last time I actually read Rolling Stone was probably about the same time I attended a Phi Kappa Psi rush for the free 3.2 beer-- forty pluls years ago

narciso

Well except UVA's president, Teresa Sullivan, is Red Squaw's partner in academic fraud.

daddy

Anonamon,

I can't get any of the comments to the "Note to Our Readers" to open except for ones from 13 days ago, and those ones are all "Punish The Fraternity and jail the Rapers."

Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue, Sue.

Eric in Boise

#WarOnFraternities

daddy

If I had any penny-loafers I'd wear 'em today in solidarity!

Captain Hate

Well except UVA's president, Teresa Sullivan, is Red Squaw's partner in academic fraud.

Ugh. Although in fairness [/Poppin] most university presidents are POS.

peter

daddy @ 2:34 HA!

Iggy

RS;

"Comments for this thread are now closed."

Isn't the fingers-in-the-ear strategy kinda what got them into this mess in the first place?

Neo

The Age of Obama is over ...


Longtime CNN political anchor Candy Crowley is leaving the network

LUN

NKontheNovreboot

"Erdely went shopping for a scandal and found one. Congrats. I hope she enjoyed the attention she got for her final byline."

'Final byline?' OH C'MON TOM! Erdely is just doing the regular accepted JournoProg work here . THE NARRATIVE. You yourself quoted the Oberlin Radio gal a couple of posts back-- FACTs/TRUTH DON'T MATTER... the point is to support gals and condemn boys if the gals have remorse. Remorse = Right to revenge, and that must be supported. Erdely will have many bylines to come. She'll be medicaid eligible, but she get bylines.

Captain Hate

daddy, just wear an orange and blue color scheme. And real blue, not that pussy color of Chapel Hole.

clarice

Beautiful job, TM. You could be the editor of everything.

Old Lurker

We don't put pennies in them anymore.

NKontheNovreboot

Anonomon-- indeed that is my daughter's coda. She sends Prog in-laws to the fainting couches when she articulates that in polite company.

She was 'victimzed' by a Prep School boy who she convinced to take her to prom... strictly emotional stuff, not sexually, he ignored her the whole Prom and hung out with his football and LAX buddies... and she learned a lesson from that. Better to be the victimizer than the victim, so she dumped a 2+ year boyfriend last Christmas--CHRISTMAS!!. Unlike most girls she's not a liar... she's a stone cold killer. I didn't say she learned a particularly good lesson from Prom.

Neo

She dreamed of pursuing a career in medicine like her childhood hero, Patch Adams.

I liked the first half of the movie, then it turned into a rerun of "Awakenings"

daddy

Dammitall,

I still can't get any of those Rolling Stone comments to come up any more recent than 11 days ago, and it looks like there's 7500 comments. SOBs@#$%

Captain Hate

I remember Gene Siskel taking great relish in slattering Patch Adams; not sure if Fat Egbert did likewise because I had him in the "ignore" mode back then.

Iggy

Yeah, I had a window open on the current comments daddy and when I refreshed it, they all disappeared and the 'comments closed' sign came on.

Captain Hate

They must be getting trucked by everybody if they closed comments. Very open minded imo.

Iggy

Charles C W Cooke on the suicide of the New Republic.

Think just how infantile and awful you have to be to cause someone as goofy as Noam Scheiber or Johnathon Chait to quit in protest.
Oh well, we do have a chain of Gawker inspired TNR cafes to look forward to.

Captain Hate

The Children of the Cornhole have been in a slow motion trainwreck ever since Marty Peretz warshed his hands of it.

mike in houston

OL maybe it was just a Fairfield County thing, but we always wore boat shoes (Top Siders) rather than penny loafers.

Jeff Dobbs

OL:
We don't put pennies in them anymore.

That middle word has a lot of patriarchaphallical letters in it.

NKontheNovreboot

When I got to DC in '79, the UVa/Duke/UK guys were all in TopSiders by then.

Extraneus

Zombie is a she?

Old Lurker

Mike, I understand that Topsiders are much safer on piles of broken glass so I understand.

jimmyk

Perky Katie's school.

Also Ted Kennedy's (Law). To their everlasting shame, they admitted him after Harvard wouldn't because of his cheating as an undergrad.

NKontheNovreboot

Topsiders-- with matching cloth belts and wristwatch bands.

Old Lurker

NK have you been snooping in my closet in Nantucket? With kakis and my blue blazer you have just nailed my cocktail party uniform.

jimmyk

I suspect the TNR thing is more a case of mercy killing, or jumping the shark. Hard to believe they would survive in this era anyway.

jimmyk

Proud to say I have never owned a pair of Top Siders. NTTAWT.

Old Lurker

Also Bobby Kennedy in Law '51 (my Dad's class).

Captain Hate

Yes, Ext; AliceH took me to task for outing her by posting that once but I don't think zombie has ever hid that or made an issue of it. Let me put it this way, if I know that it can't be too hard to discover.

clarice

Sheila Jackson Lee got her law degree from UVa, too..

daddy

It just struck me that we have all seen this Rolling Stone Reporter before.

On his first rebound from Annie Hall, Woody Allen (Alvie Singer) had a date and a one-night stand with her:

ROLLING STONE REPORTER
I think there are more people here to
see the Maharishi than there were to see
the Dylan concert. I covered the Dylan
concert ... which gave me chills.
Especially when he sang "She takes just
like a woman And she makes love just
like a woman Yes, she does And she aches
just like a woman But she breaks just
like a little girl."
(They move toward the aisles as
a guard holds up his hands to stop
them)
Up to that I guess the most charismatic
event I covered was Mick's Birthday when
the Stones played Madison Square Garden.

ALVY
(Laughing)
Man, that's great. That's just great.

REPORTER
You catch Dylan?

ALVY
(Coughing)
Me? No, no. I-I couldn't make it that
ni- My-my raccoon had hepatitis.

REPORTER
You have a raccoon?

ALVY
(Gesturing)
Tsch, a few.

REPORTER
The only word for this is trans-plendid.
It's trans-plendid.

ALVY
I can think of another word.

REPORTER
He's God! I mean, this man is God! He's
got millions of followers who would crawl
all the way across the world just to touch
the hem of his garment.

ALVY
Really? It must be a tremendous hem.

REPORTER
I'm a Rosicrucian myself.

ALVY
Are you?

REPORTER
Yeah.

ALVY
I can't get with any religion that
advertises in Popular Mechanics. Look-
(The Maharisbi, a small, chunky
man, walks out of the men's room,
huge bodyguards flanking him while
policemen bold back the crowds)
there's God coming outta the men's room.

REPORTER
It's unbelievably trans-plendid! I was
at the Stones concert in Altamount when
they killed that guy, remember?

ALVY
Yeah, were yuh? I was-I was at an Alice
Cooper thing where six people were rushed
to the hospital with bad vibes.

INT. ALVY'S BEDROOM-NIGHT

The reporter is sitting up in bed, lighted cigarette in her hand. Alvy, lying
next to her, rubs his eyes and puts on his eyeglasses.

REPORTER
(Looking down at him)
I hope you don't mind that I took so long
to finish.

ALVY
(Sighing)
Oh, no, no, don't be ... tsch ... don't
be silly. You know,
(Yawning)
I'm startin' it-I'm startin' to get some
feeling back in my jaw now.

REPORTER
Oh, sex with you is really a kafkaesque
experience.

ALVY
Oh, tsch, thank you. H'm.

REPORTER
I mean that as a compliment.

ALVY
(Making sounds)
I think-I think there's too much burden
placed on the orgasm, you know, to make
up for empty areas in life.

REPORTER
Who said that?

ALVY
(Rubbing his chin and shoulder)
Uh, oh, I don't know. It might have
been Leopold and Loeb.

For those who need to see the video, click here and scroll to the 01:30 minute mark: Actors who appeared in Annie Hall before they were famous

Captain Hate

Sheila Jackson Lee got her law degree from UVa, too..

#NotProudToBeAHoo

Stephanie

You know it's too bad that paid journalists don't have to have a license to practice and requirements for CE and all that stuff that hairdressers and massage therapists have to put up with. Be a shame if someone were to introduce legislation regulating their activities...

Old Lurker

Clarice your 3:15 is just mean.

daddy

They must be getting trucked by everybody if they closed comments. Very open minded imo.

They probably don't have enough guys on payroll to moderate 10,000 incoming "Phuck u Rolling Stone"e-comments.

Extraneus

Court: Tommy the chimp is not a person

A Florida group’s efforts to free a chimpanzee fell short on Thursday when the Appellate Division of the State Supreme Court in Albany upheld a lower court’s decision that found that such animals aren’t entitled to basic legal rights.

“Needless to say, unlike human beings, chimpanzees cannot bear any legal duties, submit to societal responsibilities or be held legally accountable for their action,” Presiding Justice Karen Peters wrote in the seven-page decision.

“In our view, it is this incapability to bear any legal responsibilities and societal duties that renders it inappropriate to confer upon chimpanzees the legal rights — such as the fundamental right to liberty protected by the writ of habeas corpus — that have been afforded to human beings.”

Iggy

Matthew Continetti notes the increasing frequency that every lefty shibboleth is undergirded by fraud and myths, concluding comically and correctly that liberalism is a hoax.

MarkO

As I think I belabored before, she wrote this in such a fashion as to not be exposed to liability for defamation.

Writers have a reason for every word.

clarice

I want to make certain that no one ever mentions that dope's name without adding "B.A. Yale, J.D. UVa."

Captain Hate

Tammy Bruce said the OED has added "hawt" and "mancrush" to their list of acceptable words. I feel more erudite already.

NKontheNovreboot

Daddy@3:15-- oh no you dinnint go there... oh no... OMG, you DID.

anonamom

Glad I got my comment in to them. I'm sure it will cause them to rethink their entire editorial process.

narciso

Beutler, who is Troy Mclure, in his ability to get it wrong, is the only prominent rat not to leave the SS Hughes

narciso

yes, but they do edit a major metropolitan newspaper.

Beasts of England

OL@3:04 wins the Internet!!

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

from TM's WaPo link -

. Phi Kappa Psi said it has been working with police to determine whether the account of a brutal rape at a party there was true.

Looks like Phi Kappa Psi is the one with sense & integrity.

NKontheNovreboot

BoE- OL heard that from 'a friend'.... of course.

Jeff Dobbs

OL:
NK have you been snooping in my closet in Nantucket?

It's the Internet of Things. The way that house is wired, we can see everything.

Beasts of England

Gary Trudeau doesn't get tapped for Skull and spends his cartoon career crapping on the Bushes; Jann Wenner doesn't get tapped in the ass by an entire fraternity and spends his entire career crapping on fraternities.

Too subtle?

daddy

NK,

Shelley Duvall was transplendent in that roll:)

UVA has a transplendent Law-School.

Fry took a transplendent Bimmer this morning.

Rolling Stone cutting off their comment section is transplendent Journalism.

transplendent,transplendent,transplendent!

peter

U.Va. was under a consent decree and had to take affirmative action students NO MATTER WHAT. Sheila Jackson Lee would hand in Michelle Obama's Princeton thesis,or its equivalent, each semester and the prof would pass her NO MATTER WHAT. What's a University to do? risk having the federal race police come down on them and be branded RACIST. Hence Sheila Jackson Lee.

The Teddy Kennedy admission, on the other hand was indefensible, and so was his behavior in Charlottesville, if you will recall some old Safire columns.

Old Lurker

Gotta love these tech people:

"The latest document dump in the Sony hack has exposed thousands of the company's passwords for various accounts, reports BuzzFeed. The reason this came to light so quickly? The passwords were kept in a file directory called "Password." Among them are hundreds of usernames and passwords for movies' social accounts on Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter, but also plenty of clearly labeled passwords for everything from Amazon to Fidelity financial services."

NKontheNovreboot

Teddy @ UVa? never heard those stories. anything of note?

Captain Hate

Per Tammy Bruce, the flu shot I got isn't the correct type. I don't see anything that can go wrong with 404Care.

daddy

And speaking of Kafkaesque, who can forget this bit from Bill Clinton back before Drudge spilled the transplendent beans about Monica:

Clinton: "I feel like a character in the novel Darkness at Noon," and, "I am surrounded by an oppressive force that is creating a lie about me and I can't get the truth out."

transplendent,transplendent,transplendent.

AliceH

"Yes, Ext; AliceH took me to task for outing her by posting that once... "

May be true, but I have no recollection of doing do, nor in fact any recollection of having ever seen a post "outing" zombie.

Nevertheless, I apologize unreservedly to any who may have been negatively affected by what I may or may not have done.

Old Lurker

That's very transplendent of you Alice.

Captain Hate

Slick is like a character in a De Sade novel.

Danube on iPad

I never did any defamation litigation, but I can't see anybody bringing a successful action here.

jimmyk

transplendent in that roll

Good Freudian slip/double entendre, daddy.

Captain Hate

No need, AliceH; if anybody needs to apologize for things stated in the past it would be me to you.

Ben

Can we now move from the US campus rape culture to the 'slut' culture? It seems that roils beneath the surface of inquiry.

Iggy

Pretty sure it's daddy that needs to apologize.

Captain Hate

I think we can all agree on that, Iggy.

Jeff Dobbs

The week that was:

Monday: 0 posts
Tuesday: 3 posts
Wednesday: 4 posts
Thursday: 5 posts
Friday: 3 posts (so far!)

15 posts is pretty impressive for a work week, especially taking Monday off.

However, at this point it is no match for February 26-March 2, 2007.

The amazing thing about that week is that TM put up 17 posts in only 3 days.

With 8 hours left in the day, TM needs two more posts to tie that mark, and three to surpass it.

ZOMG! Did you see what Taubes just said? Wait! Jeter is coming out of retirement??!!? Hold on! Krugman just called out Maguire by name!!!!!!!!!!

MarkO

Sweating with the stars.

NKontheNovreboot

Speaking of slut culture, here's a profile of a middle school classmate of my son, and she went on to Dear Old Yale: http://yaleherald.com/bullblog/profile-of-a-swug/

peter

Bill Safire wrote a column about how Teddy Kennedy after a high speed chase drove his car into the woods, and was hiding in his car with the lights out cowering where the sheriff found him . The column ran some time around the 1980 run for the Presidency, and asked if there was a pattern along with his Chappaquiddick behavior. Teddy had thought enough years had passed from Chappaquiddick, but the column did enough damage that his run never recovered

Eric in Boise

daddy's 4:00 is not only transplendent, but non-heteronormatively transplendent. A twofer!

MarkO

I found daddy to be splendtransformational.

daddy

Well somebody's got to keep Iggy in good practice at throwing up in his mouth, and if not me, Hoo?

NKontheNovreboot

'Hoo'... I see what you did there Daddy!
I thought they were Cavaliers, no?

Extraneus

Hey, daddy...

Bear tracks: Data shows grizzly’s ‘bizarre’ 2,800-mile trek across backyards, main streets and highways

RickB

TM,

You might want to return to Amanda Marcotte. It appears End Days are somewhat more distant than you thought.

James D.

Hit @ 4:04

Are you serious?

peter

hit's 4:04 is trans-effing-splendent and trans-effing-gender-splendent at the same time

Jeff Dobbs

James, there are several elements in my 4:04 - which part is in question?

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