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January 28, 2015

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Jeff Dobbs

YAY! TM'S on the case!!!

RickB

TM appears to be stuck on the torture theme.

Jack is Back!

Ah, geez.

Some Guy

The temperature change from room temperature to the on-field temperature should not be enough to have the balls deflate from 12.5 psi to 10.5 psi.

TM,

There have been several reports that the actual deflation rate was closer to 1 psi or under, and not 2 psi.

narciso

after everything else, I don't know how he comes to this conclusion:

http://20committee.com/2015/01/28/why-putin-will-lose/

the only reason, the story was interesting to me, was the take on Goodell Night Football

rse

New post up. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/progressive-polyphonic-federalism-invisibly-binds-people-and-places-to-the-just-society-vision/

Everyone should be familiar with this view of federalism that completely permeates the GOPe at all levels and is why the Tea Party is so decried.

It's in the way of the bipartisan festival at all levels of government.

Miss Marple

Second set of balls concealed in the men's room. Much quicker and more fool-proof than trying to deflate them in 90 seconds.

Of course, assuming that it actually happened.

Could be that they just present the underinflated balls and the refs don't really check.

Or that none of this happened. Whatever.

Jack is Back!

Helium is a Noble gas. Nothing noble about this story. It is now FUBAR.

Isn't Columbia the same school where they supply us with all those credible journalists?

Miss Marple

Meanwhile, here is the Budweiser puppy ad in this story:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/01/26/super-bowl-commercials-2015-budweisers-clydesdales-search-for-lost-puppy/

jfalk

Here's my scientific contribution:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5755704/brady.jpg

lyle

http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2015/01/27/a-criminal-organization-masquerading-as/

Sandy Berger is mentioned...

Miss Marple

Jack, yes, but they couldn't use MIT, because:
1. Massachusetts
2. Gruber!

NKvirusedand back

THIS TM POST was inevitable.

Occam's Razor tells me that either (1) the TommiePats did fiddle with the balls as they have over the course of several seasons, or (2) the lazy refs didn't run each of the balls through their fancy pants electric pump with regulated pressure gauge, and the NFL is slow walking things to not reveal that embasrassing detail. I put Occam #1 as the far higher probability... and the fact that I detest Kraft/Belicheat/TommieBoy has nothing to do with it, you can all trust my judgment in this matter.

narciso

that piece inspired my musing on Preet's 'convenient' indictment,

Captain Hate

Has Clutch Cargo weighed in on this yet? They are his team, right?

Beasts of England

At least they didn't rape-rape the footballz. We'd have had a meta-meta situation. And W. S. Juno.

Buckeye

"Occam's Razor tells me that either (1) the TommiePats did fiddle with the balls as they have over the course of several seasons, or (2) the lazy refs didn't run each of the balls through their fancy pants electric pump with regulated pressure gauge"

Or both

narciso

a bigger scam.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/27/exclusive-obama-cuts-funds-for-the-syrian-rebels-he-claims-to-support.html

narciso

or maybe this one:

http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/01/28/media-blows-coverage-menendez-iran-sanctions-delay/

Extraneus

Tom Brady Has A Cold

Danube on iPad

Source for 2 psi decrease?

If the balls were inflated with ninety-degree air moments before they were presented to the refs. It seems unlikely that the surface temperature would increase noticeably by the time of the testing.

Someone yesterday posted a clip of the efs testing balls before an NFL game. They were using pressure gauges, and after testing they would put that crew's symbol (in this case the letter L) on the ball with a magic marker.

NKvirusedand back

The Mike Walsh piece is spot on regarding coruption history and where we wound up. I grew up in NYC during a period when the 'reformers' were on top, but Tammany never recovered, because it was also the period of Great Economic Decline in NYC, so OPM ran out, plus the private employer marks moved to Morris Cty NJ, Fairfield CT or Ga, so there was no $$ of any kind for honest graft. A new kind of corruption developed in the 80s-90s, and that corruption is what we see in the headlines now. As Walsh says, it is 'legal corruption', that luckily violates federal laws. BTW, the Silvers and the Cuomos who are taking the fall now? They were the 'goo gov' types in the 80s. As Glenn Reynolds says, we have the worst political class evah. BTW I see where Walsh politely call the Free Shite Army the "Dependency Class". I like our phrase better.

Dave (in MA)

CH @ 12:53, Lurch is still trying to figure out which guy is "Manny".

GMax

How much hot air has been spilt in the discussion of deflationgate?

rse

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/documents/2015/01/Response_to_Sen._Gaetz_1-26-15.pdf is for narciso.

Now that the nature of the assessments in certain states has shifted to assessing softer skills and "higher order thinking" the opt out shenanigans are no longer allowed. It matters now that what is being measured is not traditional knowledge.

henry

GMax, not enough. I think TM is trying to generate more to melt snow so he doesn't have to shovel as much.

narciso

thanks, it seems like unlike in 'the wall'. they've decided for 'more thought control'

narciso

they didn't clue althouse on PPP:

http://althouse.blogspot.com/2015/01/americans-think-pats-cheated-rooting.html

MarkO

Why only 11 balls?

Ignatz

I guess this thread means JOM has now jumped the shark.
I hope the mako didn't deflate TM in a sensitive spot on the trip over.

Some Guy

Why only 11 balls?

5 Patriots and Lance Armstrong...


My guess would be that the 12th ball would be the Kicking Ball, as most kickers would have a preference for maximum pressure.

lyle

Is the Super Bowl over yet? Cripes. I don't know how much more of this I can stand...

Captain Hate

Has anybody been in touch with ChaCo? I just looked at PJM to see if he weighed in on the thread topic and it doesn't look like he's posted anything there since the summer.

narciso

justified has taken an interesting turn for the last few episode, Dillahunt hasn't killed anybody yet, which is rare for this type of character,

Jeff Dobbs

Some Guy:
My guess would be that the 12th ball would be the Kicking Ball, as most kickers would have a preference for maximum pressure.

From the NFL rule (pdf):

For all games, eight new footballs, sealed in a special box and shipped by the manufacturer to
the Referee, will be opened in the officials’ locker room two hours and 15 minutes prior to the starting time of the game.
These balls are to be specially marked by the Referee and used exclusively for the kicking game.

BTW, did you know that the length of the football can vary up to a quarter inch, and the circumference by up to half an inch?

Dave (in MA)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I still don't think the NFL has made any statements about this, right? Most of the discussions have centered around what people "know" from media people like Mortensen, etc.

henry

CH, Chaco is active on twitter. So far he has ignored this bit of silliness.

narciso

but of course:

http://therightscoop.com/ugh-obama-state-dept-meets-with-anti-egyptian-islamists-terrorist-thugs/

NKvirusedand back

Dave-- the NFL issued a status of investigation statement on Friday; that NFL statement probably caused the Belicheat to speak on Saturday.

James D.

RickB posted on the prior thread re: Loretta Lynch and her racist history/views:

Having another black racist replace the black racist currently destroying the DoJ doesn't hurt at all. It's not as if BOzo's affirmative action hires have done anything but decimate the Fascist Party.

The GOP should interfere with Fascist suicide because..........?

My answer is:

The same reason you might want to interfere with the suicide of a meth dealer who lives down the street from you, if his suicide could set not only his house on fire, but possibly the rest of the houses on your block as well.

Dave (in MA)

CH, he's active on Twitter.

lyle

CH, Chaco is active on twitter. So far he has ignored this bit of silliness.

Would that this assemblage exhibit such forebearance.

Captain Hate

Welp, I guess that email I sent was all for naught.

Jeff Dobbs

TWO! new threads on Brady's Balls.






















Made ya look.

lyle

I understood there would be no interferring with the suicide of any meth dealers on this blog.

daddy

Here's a calamity!

Budget ax falls on a bit of Alaskana, the bars on Alaska state ferries

...the state Department of Transportation and Public Facilities says it can no longer afford to keep subsidizing money-losing ferry bars, and will close them this year.

So they're going to shut down the saloons on all our state FerryBoats! Gad.

Apparently we lose at least $100,000 on each individual Bar on each Ferryboat, and the 2 new ferries now under construction will not include bars.

"The loss of bars will be unpopular" says Representative so and so from Ketchikan.

Most ferry travelers have seen the packed bars on Alaska ferries -- so why are they losing money? Good Question.

And here's the Sad Answer: the vessels providing essential day-to-day service are often less than half-full and the bars get little business.

Bummer:( I was thinking that after I retired from my current gig I was going to become a Bartender on a Ferryboat and yack passengers ears off---plus the Ferryboat Bartenders Union has the coolest name for a Union in History

The bartenders who work on the vessels are members of the Inlandboatmen's Union of the Pacific.

Oh well. As the Buddha said in his last words when he passed into the Nirvana of un-rebirth, "Decay Is Inherent in All Corporate Things."

exdemocrat

daddy - many thanks for your thoughtful response to my question in the last thread ("what is your take on why the Progs believe that collectively blaming Muslims is "the biggest" error we could make??")

as usual, i agree with almost everything you write. There's an important subtlety to the 'straw man' issue, though, in that Kerry and his ilk (either slyly or inadvertently) conflate "blaming" all muslims for each act committed by an islamic terrorist with assigning some "responsibility" to all practicing muslims for that act.

Murdoch recently did the latter and while he took plenty of heat for it, I think he was right to do so because making all muslims "responsible" for the carnage done in the name of their religion - while imprecise - is still far closer to the truth that the orchard of Islam is the real problem here, rather than sundry bad apples.

In my view, Islam is not a "religion" as contemplated by the architects of the First Amendment, nor worthy of protection from Government infringement thereby.


MarkO

As a child of four can plainly see, these kicking balls have been hermetically sealed. They've been kept in a #2 mayonnaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's back porch since noon today.

For reasons unknown, the kicking balls are held separately and apparently guarded.

chemman

Obviously the "deflated" footballs didn't help the Pats they only scored 17 points using them while scoring 28 points using "properly" inflated balls. Deflationgate is a squirrel to detract people from the whipping the colts took.

Disclaimer: I am a lambs (Rams) fan.

Miss Marple

daddy,

I think Inlandboatman's Union of the Pacific is a pretty cool name, too, but they probably just call themselves the IUP.

I still say the coolest title ever is "Lord of the Isles." In olden times the title designate the man who ruled the Hebrides, the Orkneys, etc. and was powerful.

Now it's just an honorific held by Prince Charles, alas.

daddy

Geez: Obama's Attorney General Nominee: Illegal Immigrants Have a Right to Work in The United States

I'm almost afraid to start catch-up:(

Dave (in MA)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/01/28/teens-seeking-snow-shoveling-cash-run-afoul-law/22454761/

NJ Teenagers prevented by cops from seeking snow shoveling jobs. Police chief: "The spirit of the ordinance is to protect residents from gypsy activity". I guess some ethnic stereotypes are still OK. Maybe people could "jew down" the price, and hopefully not "welch" on paying. If the kids don't play by the rules they'll end up in a "paddy wagon".

Dave (in MA)

MarkO shows his age.

HI-YOOOO

Jack is Back!

ChaCo is on Facebook and I friended him. He has stayed away from 'Deflategate' so far.

To be honest with you, I don't see how the NFL can prove one way or another that the defalted balls were a deliberate action on the part of the Patriots. They can 'assume' but proving that someone knowingly let the air out for an advantage without a telling confession by the actual doer. I don't think there is anyway unless CSI Miami has it all figured out.

NKvirusedand back

The Jersey story really pisses me off. Who are the Cops protecting here? why their buddies the local contractors who buy their raffle tickets and pay taxes to the town; and who do the local contractors use to clear the driveways of Bound Brook?, why illegal alien day workers. So local kids can't make a few bucks because they compete with contractors who pay illegals $10/hr and pay legal graft to the cops? this country is so fucking screwed up.

MarkO

If deflation is a common practice, many people will know, not just one bathroom bound boy.

NKvirusedand back

My only interest in the DeflateGate business is that Tommie Boy Brady is exposed as a cheating liar. I 'll stipulate that the psi had no bearing on the outcome of the Colts game, and the psi since '08 has had no causal connection to Pats turnovers. But my strong belief is that Tommie Boy wanted his balls a certain way and he used some equipment guys to make it happen, in a deliberate and purposeful violation of NFL rules. Why? Tommie Boys likes his balls a certain way and Tommie Boy gets what he wants. Fine, all's fair, catch me if you can. But as Michael Corleone said to Carlo Rizzi "Don't lie to me... it insults my intelligence... and makes me angry." Brady went out to his DeflateGate presser and shamelessly lied IMO.

Thomas Collins

H&R, re your 1:43 PM post: Yah gut me!

JiB, re your 1:58 PM post: I think the fact that Goodell is bringing the Columbia physics department into this means the NFL has nothing on Brady. The NFL wants to drag this out until people lose interest. I do find it ironic that the NFL is digging far deeper into this than the circumstances surrounding a fiancée being dragged unconscious out of an elevator by a NFL player.

clarice

Balls!! Just shoot me.

sbw

The 12th ball is the 12th man?

NKvirusedand back

I disagree with @2:10 ThomasC. Ted Wells is just following the Fitz system of using circumstantial evidence to nail the mark on a nothing charge.

Dave (in MA)

This can be a case study in confirmation bias.

NKvirusedand back

nah Dave... like MadJack said, you can compltely trust my judgment in this matter.. that fact that I have been a Jets fan since '67 has nothing to do with it.

Extraneus

GoDaddy pulls Super Bowl puppy ad after outrage from animal rescue groups

The ad, “Journey Home,” mocked Budweiser’s highly anticipated “Lost Dog” Super Bowl ad that the beer label has been teasing — which, in turn, is a sequel to its wildly popular 2014 Super Bowl ad “Puppy Love.”

In GoDaddy’s ad, an adorable golden retriever puppy named Buddy is traveling with his mom and sibling in a box in the back of a pickup truck, when he’s tossed out as the truck hits a bump. Buddy goes through quite a lot to make his way back to his home, where he’s scooped up by his human guardian who is thrilled he made it back to them — because she’d already sold him on her new website she set up using GoDaddy.com.

Faster than you can say, “What?!” the ad’s YouTube clip had more than 800 comments, most trashing it; #godaddypuppy became a thing on Twitter, a Change.org petition had been launched calling on the company to kill the ad, and more than 42,000 signatures collected. Animal rescue organizations expressed contempt. Ditto PETA, which admitted it “liked” that the ad showed that anyone who sells dogs online is “a callous jerk.” “The sale of animals online and from pet stores and breeders should be roundly condemned,” the group said.

Some Guy

Thanks Hit!

Old Lurker

Wash Times:

The congressional Democrats involved in writing the Affordable Care Act told the Supreme Court on Wednesday that they intended for consumers in all states to be eligible for subsidies, and they argue that the law they drafted reflects that intention.

Opponents have challenged the Obama administration’s enforcement of the law, arguing that it only allows subsidies to be paid in states that set up their own exchanges, but not to customers in most of the country who use the federal exchange.

Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and their colleagues disputed that in a new brief filed with the Supreme Court Wednesday, saying to leave out some states would defy the entire reason they passed Obamacare — “to make health insurance affordable for all Americans.”

The case rests on language in the law that says subsidies will be paid to those in exchanges “established by the state.”

Mr. Obama’s opponents say that means the federal exchange, which covers the two-thirds of states that refused to set up their own exchanges, are not eligible. The opponents, pointing to comments from some Obamacare defenders, say Congress had intended to use the subsidies as a way to entice states to set up exchanges, rather than leave the job to federal officials.

But the Democratic lawmakers who wrote and passed the law called that argument “so weak” and say they never meant to draw that kind of distinction, saying the law grants subsidies to “applicable taxpayers” and defines them by income, not by geography.

NKvirusedand back

Gruber's an arrogant bastard but he told the truth about subsidies and why the Progs thought americans were too dumb to figure any of ACA out. Harry/Nancy/Barry are just shameless liars.

Dave (in MA)

Extraneus, at least the dog wasn't intentionally thrown from the truck like one of my cats.

henry

OL, its nice they have a full debate in the Congressional Record to back that up. /sarcasm

daddy

Porchlight and Sue,

Helluva Javelina!

Lemme' see. Hmmm 37 + 12, divided by 4, carry the 1...

Yep. According to my calculations this 790 pound Texas Pig would make 37 Colt's Footballs or 43 Patriot's Pigskins.

Threadkiller

"The valve can be adjusted to open between 0 and 100 psi using the micrometer-style nylon knob"

http://www.amazon.com/Control-Devices-Series-Pressure-Adjustable/dp/B007GDY3CU

Just add needle.

Thomas Collins

NK, the only individual I'd be shocked to hear was a cheater was Allie Sherman. Allie seemed so upright and proper on the NY Football Giants sidelines that he couldn't possibly cheat, could he? Well, if he did, it certainly didn't help him against Lombardi in those NFL Championship Games (37-0 and 16-7 Packers, if I recall correctly).

Jane

Ex posted this Walker ad in the last thread:

I love love love it! Particularly the last line.

James D.

Ditto PETA, which admitted it “liked” that the ad showed that anyone who sells dogs online is “a callous jerk.” “The sale of animals online and from pet stores and breeders should be roundly condemned,” the group said.

But I guess slaughtering several hundred thousand animals each year in their "shelters" is just A-OK with PETA.

daddy

Wretchard: The Desert and the Sown

Don't know how I missed the slaughter of the 44 Filipino Police Officers by Islamist Rebels.

exdemocrat

Perhaps because blaming the murders on Muslims is "the biggest" error we could make? ;-)

James D.

daddy, it's understandable. There are enough Islamist atrocities on a daily basis that it's difficult to keep up with them all.

NKvirusedand back

NFL 'cheating' -- Boomer Esiason relayed this story from Parcells. in one of the 49ers - Giants NFC champ games, the 49ers alerted the officials that their headsets weren't working, so by rule the Giants had to shut down theirs until the 49ers' came back on. In those days Bill walsh 'scripted' the first 15 49ers plays. After their 15th play, the 49ers headsets were working so the Giants could turn theirs back on, but they were already behind. After the 49ers won, Parcells asked walsh 'what was up with that'... walsh smiled and said 'gamemanship'. They all look for an edge.

Captain Hate

Memories....

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=354622

James D.

NK, which game was that?

The Giants and Niners only played in one NFC Championship game in the Parcells Era, and we beat SF, 15-13.

We did lose to them in the divisional playoffs in 1984; maybe that's the game Boomer's referring to?

lyle

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/28/poll-64-want-congress-to-restore-obamacare-subsidies-if-republicans-win-the-halbig-case/

Anyone think the GOPe won't roll over and keep the sugar flowing? Me, neither.

jimmyk

Catching up....

YAY! TM'S on the case!!!

Seems to me the best outcome for this blog would be if turns out Richard Armitage deflated the balls.

NKvirusedand back

my mistake, it was a playoff game, not the NFC champ game.

NKvirusedand back

the proposed 2009 Repub insurance reform Bills contained subsidies/credits for working poor to buy insurance. Ryan in the 2012 campaign explicitly laid out how subsidies/tax credits plus greater consumer choice are superior to ObummerCare.

Danube on iPad

Poll: once you start Free Shit, it's hard to stop it.

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/28/poll-64-want-congress-to-restore-obamacare-subsidies-if-republicans-win-the-halbig-case/

NKvirusedand back

actually, it was Boomer's mistake depending on whether he said it was a playoff game in '84 or the NFC Champ game in SF.

Some Guy

Deflategate investigation if Fitz were in charge:


Locker Room Attendant Interview #1

Fitz: What did you do when you snuck into the bathroom?

LRA: I let out…

Fitz: AHA!

LRA: …my zipper.

Fitz: oh. Then what?

LRA: I emptied…

Fitz: AHA!

LRA: …my bladder.

Fitz: Then WHAT? What did you DO?

LRA: I left I guess.

Fitz: AHA! We have a witness who was in Stall #3 who recalls you making loud air noises in that bathroom, and…

LRA: You mean the hand dryer?

Fitz: Don’t interrupt me. I’m a US Attorney, and we’ve got you dead to rights on perjury.

PERJURY!

You never said anything about washing your hands.

Where’s your buddy Cheney now? Huh?

LRA: “chainy”? I don’t even know the yardage marker crew guys.

Why are you so red?


lyle

Five minutes. I'm like a potted plant around here.

Buckeye

“The sale of animals online and from pet stores and breeders should be roundly condemned,”

But aborting human beings is perfectly OK.

henry

Lyle, that is one self reference in 4 seconds. Obama only does 1 in 17 seconds...

lyle

You're right, henry. Better up my game.

Porchlight

My guess - the refs never checked the pressure except by feel, and now everyone is covering up.

TM, this is crazy. If they tested by feel when they inspected pre-game they would have no idea that 11 of 12 were under the limit at the half. They're just going to make something up so that they can THEN cover it up?

NKvirusedand back

Buckeye-- you see.. there you go again. Using logic on the Left's narratives.

Porchlight

Unless they tested with a gauge at the half. I guess. But then the NFL would never have brought it to light.

Miss Marple

Has anyone noticed the uptick in ads for addiction centers over the last few months? That's something that is now covered by ACA, isn't it?

NKvirusedand back

The other tactic Wells has borrowed heavily from Fitz is the sleazy leak through friendly reporters, such as the 90 secs in the bathroom report. IMO the NFL is gunning for Brady/Belicheat, and they'll use whatever means necessary to dirty them up badly over this.

Porchlight

daddy,

Mmmm, javelina sausage! :)

lyle

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/28/gun-range-ban-on-muslims-draws-fire/

In the meantime, Morgan is not budging. She likened offering target practice to potential terrorists to flight schools offering lessons on simulators to the 9/11 terrorists. And because firearms are involved, she said her case is not analogous to cases in which private businesses have been sanctioned for refusing to serve other groups, such as gays.

“One mistake can cost another human being’s life,” she said. “There’s no room for mistakes when you’re handling firearms. We aren’t just refusing to make a wedding cake here.”

Morgan claims business has “quadrupled” with people from out of state coming to the range and some even offering donations for what they predict will be a legal battle. She also said she has been threatened, which she responded to by posting her home address on the range website and daring those issuing threats to do so in person.

“I am the infidel your Imam warned you about,” Morgan wrote under an image of her packing heat.

Porchlight

IMO the NFL is gunning for Brady/Belicheat, and they'll use whatever means necessary to dirty them up badly over this.

You think? I can't figure it out. Goodell and Kraft being BFFs and watching the game together and all.

All I can figure is that Goodell tells Kraft "hey, we're going to have to do something about this ball thing or the Colts will leak it and it'll be a big mess. So hold tight and we'll do our thing but you'll be all right in the end."

Meanwhile, everyone has something to talk about between the AFC and the SB that does not involve wife beating, murder, DUI, concussions, etc.

Mattsky

An MIT guy did a study:

DeflateGate Debunked with One Simple Graphhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsn3vH_AS-8

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