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January 28, 2015

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Extraneus

What percentage of people have ever heard of the Halbig case? What percentage of those know what it's about? What percentage of those would be affected by it? What percentage of *those* would be effected negatively?

Gimme a break.

NKvirusedand back

Porch -- how old is Brady? How old is Belicheat? Kraft will be shocked SHOCKED about how he was lied to by Pats staff, and of course he'll have his $$$$ and his 20+yo girl friend to keep him warm for several losing seasons. Thanks for the memories Tommie.... now goodbye.

daddy

FOX Business News reporting that the average Super Bowl Ticket Price is now up to $5,622.

If I was given a free ticket in the Box Seats on the 50 Yard Line I would not go. Just me personally, and I hope I get to watch the game on TV, but I could not be more uninterested in actually going to the Stadium.

Let's do a quick poll if you don't mind---

1) given free tickets to a Sky Box on the 50 Yard Line, would you guys go or not? and

2) will you still try to watch the game at home or at a local Bar?

MY answers are No and Yes. I wonder if I am an outlier?

MarkO

Science.

Porchlight

Obviously the "deflated" footballs didn't help the Pats they only scored 17 points using them while scoring 28 points using "properly" inflated balls. Deflationgate is a squirrel to detract people from the whipping the colts took.

Please. IF they deflated the balls, nobody believes the AFC was the first time. They had to get by the Ravens the week before and only won by 4 points in cold weather and with a crucial call going their way.

IF they've been doing for a long time, they're going to do it every time, whether they need it or not.

NKvirusedand back

daddy@3:38 Yes and N/A

I've never been to Supe Bowl.

Jane

I'd go, just for the experience. Of course I also demand a plane ride (1st class) a great hotel and a limousine.

I have a friend who takes his 2 boys to everyone the Pats are in. Haven't talked to him about it, but I bet he's going.

I blame the refs for deflategate.

henry

daddy, no and no.

NKvirusedand back

The 'Science' is settled!... what was the question?

Porchlight

I would go to the Super Bowl if I was gifted that ticket plus airfare/hotel, daddy. Otherwise I couldn't afford it.

I did get to go to the Vikings-Giants NFC championship in 2001 and we had spectacular seats on the Vikes 40 yard line but it was very traumatic for us as Vikes fans and we left at the half. If you remember the game you'll get my drift. ;)

I will watch the game, but I might turn it off if it's a blowout. Not sure where - TBD.

Ignatz

--Harry/Nancy/Barry are just shameless liars.--

They didn't have to pass the bill so we could out find out what was in it.

They had to pass it so we could find out what they could get away with saying was in it.

pagar

Buckeye@03:13 PM

Perfect!

anonamom

If I got a free ticket---but I would still have to fly to get myself there, get a room, eat consecutive meals out (I hate that--even one a day for consecutive days tries my patience) delivered by wait staff...

You can see where I am heading here.

I am definitely in "old fart" land, where I want my Margarita made with fresh squeezed lime juice and Cointreau, the garlic in my guacamole ground with the salt by hand to make a paste, and no lines to use a toilet.

So, sadly, if I am honest, I guess I am with you---No, and Yes, I'll be watching.

But I am vain enough that I wouldn't tell anybody I turned down the seat.

Danube on iPad

Sorry Lyle. I cut the link, then came here and read for quite a while before posting. Shoulda refreshed.

lyle

1) yes
2) yes

I know maybe a half dozen people who have attended a Super Bowl and to a one claim it was the best sporting event they have ever been to. Do I care who wins this Sunday? Not at all. I'll watch it like just about any other NFL game: with the volume off. But I will be on the lookout for cool commercials. I just want this absurd ball inflation nonsense to come to a merciful end.

James D.

Porch, I wish I could have gone to that game. I put in the DVD at least a couple of times a year (I've had to do a lot of living in the past the last couple of NFL seasons!)

lyle

No prob, Danube. Trust me, I'm really not upset.

I only wish we had a sarcasm font on JOM.

Porchlight

James D, I think we've talked about it before! It was something. These jerky Jints fans behind us were hassling us the whole time. When we left, we gave them our ticket stubs so that their friends in crummier seats could come down and join them. They were dumbfounded by Minnesota nice. Heh.

We did have to abandon a very nice Vikings fan who was sitting by herself next to us, and I felt bad about that. Hope they weren't too awful to her.

On the whole, I think leaving was a wuss move on our part, but it was such a relief to get out of that stadium.

Danube on iPad

I've been to two of them and had a great time on both occasions. Would love to go every year if I had first class travel and hotel.

In the absence of evidence that Wells is leaking, I would never accuse him of doing so. I can't imagine the benefit to him or his investigation from leaking the ballboy info.

Brady is 37, says he wants to play into his forties.

Beasts of England

Some Guy@1:27 - There will be no Lance Armstrong Uniballer jokes on JOM.

Captain Hate

Kraft will be shocked SHOCKED about how he was lied to by Pats staff

Did his fair haired boys tell him the truth about Spygate?

NKvirusedand back

Ignatz, yep-- ACA was such a scam. Get it passed get the free shit into some people's hands, so it becomes permanent, then EO as they saw fit. Problem for the Dems: ObamaCare policies suck, and while a net 2-3Million working poor have ObummerCare coverage they never had before, and some portion of the individual policy holders whose plans were revoked have better deals than prior to ObummerCare, almost as many individual policy holders preferred their pre-ObummerCare plans. And as the employer mandate kicks in, tens of millions of employees will be thrown off the employer plans and into lousy ObummerCare. Halbig will be a huge decision, because if the exchange subsidies are repealed, the DC Pols will actually have to you know... DO something. And they all hate that.

Mad Jack

free ticket? I'd go even if the Jets were playing(Hi NK:-)

Captain Hate

You can't parody this:

http://weaselzippers.us/212445-moonbat-berkeley-students-protest-animal-exploitation-over-dominos-thanking-cows-for-milk/

Jeff Dobbs

Up the ante....the Cowboys are playing in the Super Bowl, you get a gulf stream, a penthouse suite...but the tix are in Jerry's box, and Chris Christie just had his lapband removed.

NKvirusedand back

Of course the 90 sec video leak came from the NFL side. Was it Wells personally?, Goodell?, owners who don't like Kraft? It matters not , it was an "NFL' leak, not a Pats leak.

NKvirusedand back

Repub Senate-- if this is replayed on cspan tonight, I will watch it. The Senators sound like they did a fine job exposing Obummer's/Holder's lawlessness and contempt for the Constitution. http://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/28/ag-nominee-loretta-lynch-people-have-a-right-to-work-in-america-regardless-of-how-they-came-here/

lyle

Leave it to squishes at NR to come up with this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/397396/netanyahus-visit-and-executive-power-receive-foreign-leaders-reihan-salam

Salam cites a consitutional scholar before posing this:

Has Boehner offered a convincing counterargument as to why Congress does have the right to host a foreign leader?

Um, because screw you, Obama? But seriously, how many law professors have challenged Precious assault on the Constitution? Not very many.

Old Lurker

No & No.

But I would sell the ticket for $5,000 in a heartbeat.

And I would report that on my 1040 of course.

NKvirusedand back

Jets Supe-- yes I would go;

Jerry/Chris's box: no... hell no .... I wouldn't.

Danube on iPad

"Did his fair haired boys tell him the truth about Spygate?"

Yes. Kraft asked Belichick if he had done it, and Bill said he had. Kraft asked him how much he gained from it on a scale of 1 to 100. Belichick said 1, and Kraft said "you're a schmuck."

Danube on iPad

Depending on the times and places of the tests, I'd say the MIT guy's video blows this whole fiasco sky high. Sure hope Wells watches it.

lyle

you get a gulf stream, a penthouse suite...but the tix are in Jerry's box, and Chris Christie just had his lapband removed

Who are you, some latter day Faust?

Porchlight

Depending on the times and places of the tests

That would be the key phrase, wouldn't it?

Porchlight

Yes. Kraft asked Belichick if he had done it, and Bill said he had. Kraft asked him how much he gained from it on a scale of 1 to 100. Belichick said 1, and Kraft said "you're a schmuck."

Heh. The problem is, once a schmuck, always a schmuck.

Thomas Collins

Here are the questions from the Kaiser poll that was the subject of lyle's 3:01 PM post.

http://kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-january-2015/

It's not surprising that (I) most people haven't heard about the case, and (II) most people would support extending the subsidy. What McConnell and Boehner will do if they are smart is prepare for a decision that the States must be the ones establishing the exchanges, and have prepaid health care reform legislation at the ready, so the debate becomes one on ObamaCare as a whole, not the subsidies. Do I think McConnell and Boehner and the GOP critters in the Senate and the House will be prepared? No, I don't, because if they had any type of focus, they already would have filed and trumpeted reform legislation.

Thomas Collins

Here are the questions from the Kaiser poll that was the subject of lyle's 3:01 PM post.

http://kff.org/health-costs/poll-finding/kaiser-health-tracking-poll-january-2015/

It's not surprising that (I) most people haven't heard about the case, and (II) most people would support extending the subsidy. What McConnell and Boehner will do if they are smart is prepare for a decision that the States must be the ones establishing the exchanges, and have prepaid health care reform legislation at the ready, so the debate becomes one on ObamaCare as a whole, not the subsidies. Do I think McConnell and Boehner and the GOP critters in the Senate and the House will be prepared? No, I don't, because if they had any type of focus, they already would have filed and trumpeted reform legislation.

Thomas Collins

See, lyle, I paid attention to you squared!

Ignatz

Here is the guy the NRO piece is quoting regarding Netanyahu.

Not sure where I stand. Seems to me hinges on whether him giving a speech constitutes being here on a "formal diplomatic mission".

Old Lurker

say again?

lyle

Thanks, TC, you're swell!

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

That isn't a javelina. It looks like a feral hog.

http://arizonahunting.net/javelina7.htm

lyle

So O can shred the Constitution and wipe his ass with it but the House, by inviting Bibi, draws disapprobation by the "scholars."

Dave (in MA)

Javelina?

This is more like I would have thought a "javelina" would look like.

Old Lurker

Shoot me now.

LUN

Captain Hate

I really liked the Patriots more when they were being cheated against, like the Raiders did with the Dave Caspar forward fumble and the fans of the Black Hole said "Yeah we cheated. STFU bitches". And the fans whined and we laughed at them and Rozelle changed the rule to get them to STFU which they still didn't do.

Now they cheat, win, whine about being called cheaters and still don't STFU. And they wonder why the rest of the world doesn't respect them.

Buckeye

Screw the "scholars"

Threadkiller

Javelina

Porchlight

You got it, Cap'n.

For me it was the tuck rule game. I didn't have a preference going in but I came out hating Brady.

RickB

OL,

Most denominations have ecclesiastical courts. A sharia court falls in the same category and isn't much different than using arbitration for resolution.

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

Texas A&I Javelinas (now Texas A&M Kingsville)

NKvirusedand back

DoT-- I believe that account of Kraft calling Belicheat a schmuck was after Kraft had to pay the NFL fines, and after the owner owners dumped on Kraft.

Ignatz

--I really liked the Patriots more when they were being cheated against, like the Raiders did with the Dave Caspar forward fumble...--

That was the Chargers.

NKvirusedand back

The late and unlamented Sullivan Blog from Insty. Andy Pandy is a sensitive one isn't he: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2015/01/28/a-note-to-my-readers/

Ignatz

Maybe you're thinking of the 76 playoffs when Sugar Bear whatever his name was, was called for roughing Stabler and the Raiders went on to win.

NKvirusedand back

What about 'snowblowegate' when the Mass con on furlough blew the snow off of the field goal place spot and the Pats kicked it through to win that playoff game.. was that against the Phillips/Pastorini Oilers?

Old Lurker

Rick, until it controls non ecclesiastical matters that are civil in nature and when that "justice" is accepted by a large community as in the UK in place of the the constitutional law of the land. Only last year some British leaders were opining about how to use more Sharia Law in the actual legal framework.

Yes of course, taking a dispute to the local priest or Rabbi or city father to mediate a solution has been done since the beginning of community, but we all know this, coupled with a critical mass of concentrated population and with a no-go-zone mentality and one has the makings of a disaster.

Extraneus

If Obama's flying monkeys don't stop whining about Netanyahu's invitation, the ratings for that speech are going to break records.

Dave (in MA)


The officials looked the other way on that one.

Danube on iPad

"was that against the Phillips/Pastorini Oilers?"

It was against the Shula Dolphins, and it wasn't against any rule. The Pats' owner was Billy Sullivan; the coach was Ron Meyer.

NKvirusedand back

Dave-- was that against the Oilers? I really can't blame the zebras there, what could they do. No rule covered that. I did see that on TV, just a wild moment.

NKvirusedand back

OK-- Shula's Dolphins. I do remember being quite pleased that Shula got it in the neck for a change. He was the forever chairman of the rules of competition committee and somehow his teams always seemed to get the referee game decision breaks. Didn't Phillips' Oilers also get screwed in a New England playoff game?

daddy

Juan Williams said something intelligent!

NKvirusedand back

Oilers-- screwed by bad call in Pittsburgh not NE.

Danube on iPad

The Tuck Rule clearly applied on the play that made it famous.

Belichick cheated by videotaping opponents' defensive signals from a location from which doing so had previously been legal. In what other instances have he or the Patriots cheated?

Captain Hate

Maybe you're thinking of the 76 playoffs when Sugar Bear whatever his name was, was called for roughing Stabler and the Raiders went on to win.

It's hard to keep track of the disputed wins of the Raidazz; the team that Chuck Noll accused of having a "criminal element" while having Ernie Holmes, who shot a 30/30 at police helicopters off the Ohio Turnpike, on the Stoolers roster.

Roughing the passer? It's not like Brady hasn't gone whining to the refs about a dislocated vagina on a perfectly clean hit and gotten it late flagged. Throughout it all, the whining is constant.

Captain Hate

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/17/roger-goodell-spygate-ray-rice-arlen-specter

daddy

Jim Miller,

Eric Bolling on the FIVE just said this:

Bolling: "Karl Cameron just e-mailed all of us saying that Washington State's Democrat Party approved a Resolution denouncing Common Core. The Republican party had done it, so now its bi-partisan. They want to take the control back to the States. They say there's too much control going to the federal Government."

2 Questions Jim,

1) Whats going on up there. Have your Dem's lost their minds?

2) Haven't they been listening to Governor Kasich of Ohio? He told us Common Core ensures local control.

lyle

Well, shit. Just got a kidney cancer diagnosis on our female American Eskimo dog. She has maybe a few days left. Her name, as apt a name as any dog ever, is Diva. Very sad right now. Kipling famously asked, "why do we give our heart to a dog to tear?"

NKvirusedand back

Belicheat:

1. adulterous affair with the Giants receptionist-- the RECEPTIONIST-- and then paying her hush money to keep her mouth shut when he started making the BIG Pats bucks;

2. participating in the sham/fraud as announced Jets coach when Parcells breached his Pats coaching agreement to become a Jets 'consultant'-- Jets pay compensation to Kraft;

3. Accepting Jets head coach job for 2000 season, then accepting Kraft tampering to resign and go to Pats-- Pats pay compensation to Jets for tampering;

4. Spygate-- massive fine and draft pick penalty;
5. Bogus substitutions against Ravens this month designed to confuse the defense about who was the eligible receiver. Gamesmanship, but certainly dishonorable intent.

Quite a rap sheet.

NKvirusedand back

Lyle-- terrible news. Deep condolences, and Kipling was correct.

Jane

Oh Lyle, I am so sad for you. Hug her from me.

daddy

Maybe people could "jew down" the price, and hopefully not "welch" on paying.

Dave,

You sound like a "Dutch" Uncle.

Miss Marple

daddy,

I heard him too!

On a nice note, my grandson was just here and was opining on how he has figured out how to invest money and become a millionaire by retirement age, plus he was also griping about paying taxes so the worthless people can sit on their butts which, he said, is NOT how a country should be run.

Warmed my heart, it did.

GMax

Maybe people could "jew down" the price, and hopefully not "welch" on paying.

And not be an Indian giver...

rse

Of course Washington is happy denouncing the Common Core in a bipartisan manner. They have moved on to Competency.

It also is one of 4 states featured in this just published ECS paper on how it will close the achievement gap. http://www.ecs.org/clearinghouse/01/17/10/11710.pdf

Hint: Jim Comer, Ben Levin, and UNESCO will all be pleased.

Oregon is doing something similar. I had to explain that the Network of Quality Teaching and Learning could not be good.

Miss Marple

My guess is that it is the teacher's union driving the anti-Common core thing out there.

We lost a GOP secretary of education because Common Core had opposition from both the teachers' unions (due to testing and rating teachers) and from parents (due to bad curriculum and the new way of teaching math).

I would bet that is what has happened out in Washington State.

rse

Wisconsin, Connecticut, and Massachusetts are the other states.

Skoot

The #BradyBallz panic is nonsense without a requirement for in game variance. The NFL can do whatever they want with their tax free billions so doling some out to Ted Wells is ok by me. It's only slightly less entertaining than the Shelly Silver indictment or Trump '16.

The best thing about Super Sunday? Only three weeks to Daytona!

MarkO

lyle, that is terrible news. I am so sorry.

Danube on iPad

Nos. 1, 2 and 5 involved no rules violations by either Belichick or the Pats. As for 4, see the following:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-patriots-opponents-wont-let-spygate-die-but-did-it-really-matter/

Extraneus

Border agents told to ask illegals if they might qualify for Obama amnesty

The White House has ordered federal authorities to inquire of any illegal immigrants they happen to come across during the course of duty: Do you know whether you qualify for any type of amnesty grant under President Obama’s recent deportation order?

The Associated Press obtained internal documents detailing the new procedure for federal authorities — namely, agents with Customs and Border Protection and with Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

The directive, which comes from the Department of Homeland Security, is a decided departure from normal U.S. immigration enforcement proceedings, AP reported. Rather than putting immigrants in charge of proving their qualifications for staying in the United States — under the terms of Mr. Obama’s policy — it puts the government in charge of identifying those individuals who might qualify for leniency.

henry

Our education is special.

anonamom

oh Lyle, so sorry--

NKvirusedand back

Education-- TCM played Redford movies last night, including 'The Candidate'. In that movie during a debate the young reformer Reford prattled on about 'education.. the children... all schools must be good" blah blah blah.. the Prog stuff hasn't changed in over 40 years.

Porchlight

I'm so sorry, lyle.

Captain Hate

3. Accepting Jets head coach job for 2000 season, then accepting Kraft tampering to resign and go to Pats-- Pats pay compensation to Jets for tampering;

In defense of Mumbles he had already gone through the hellish experience of working for the meddling Arthur B Modell, a complete idiot and member of the Republican "donor class", and probably wanted a less hands on owner, which he wouldn't have gotten with the JETS even before it was run by Woody Johnson, a complete idiot and member of the Republican "donor class".

Captain Hate

OMG lyle, forget all this sports crap; I am so sorry for you.

Marlene

Lyle,so sorry to hear about your dog.

daddy

Seems to me the best outcome for this blog would be if turns out Richard Armitage deflated the balls.

Caller to Dennis Miller said the only guy fast enough to deflate a dozen balls in a bathroom in 90 seconds was Senator Larry Craig of Idaho.

Danube on iPad

Just terrible, Lyle. Trust me, in this household we know how it feels, and you have our deepest sympathy.

henry

Poor Diva, sad news Lyle.

Danube on iPad

The shocking, sordid history of NFL tampering violations (abbreviated version):

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e5f721/article/lions-docked-seventhround-pick-for-antitampering-violation

http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/03/did_jets_owner_woody_johnson_violate_nfls_tampering_policy.html

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12188776/tampering-charges-filed-new-york-jets

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/07/washington-redskins-gm-search-nfl-complaint

The horror. The horror.

daddy

Question: About that 790 pound Texas Wild Boar I linked on the other page.

If it had been raised in captivity, would it still be proper to call it a Wild Boar?

Mad Jack

So sorry, Lyle.

NKvirusedand back

CaptH-- Leon Hess was literally the LEAST hands on NFL owner. He literally did not even go into 'the Building' at Hofstra. It was a huge event when he came in to Hofstra to announce he FIRED Pete Carroll and Hired .... RICK KOTITE. Hess fired Carroll becasue he thought he was an immature brat ,Carroll then went to the Pats. But that was just about the only management decisdion Hess ever made. He was a great owner for the fans though, tickets and parking were amazingly cheap for Jets games.

Captain Hate

As irritated as I was by the stupid tuck rule, there was nothing wrong with Belichick using it for his advantage at that time. It was some screwball part of the rules (subsequently removed in 2013) and I can't argue against somebody employing it for his team's advantage.

His knowledge of it makes me think that his statement of being unaware of the ball inflation requirement was a hot steaming pile or at least an extremely uncharacteristic oversight.

DrJ

If it had been raised in captivity, would it still be proper to call it a Wild Boar?

I'd probably call it a Politician.

Lyle, I am so sorry for the news. I sure know how you feel, and letting go of a long-time critter is hard, really hard.

Miss Marple

lyle, SO sorry about your dog. No matter how you think you can prepare, it really hurts when they go.

Years ago when I had to put my coonhound to sleep, the vet was nice and gave her a sedative which made her fall asleep in my lap. Then I left when it was time for the second shot.

It made me feel a tiny bit better that she fell asleep with me. Maybe your vet will do that for you.

Captain Hate

Hmmmm, NK, then I have no explanation why Darth Hoodie went elsewhere other than he must have seen something when working for Parcells that he didn't like.

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