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January 12, 2015

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henry

On Walker running, the Journal Sentinal thinks so. At the bottom of the column:

In a chat with Journal Sentinel editors and reporters on Friday, Assembly Speaker Robin Vos was asked how likely he thought it was that Walker would jump at the chance to compete for the Republican presidential nomination.

Vos didn't hesitate to answer.

"Ninety-nine percent," said Vos, a Rochester Republican. "I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be spending money on hiring a national campaign manager if it was just for show."

matt

Capitalism has raised hundreds of millions out of poverty globally in the past 20 years.

We are now seeing an oligarchy that buys both sides in order to garner wealth and retain power. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Bush I, Clinton and Bush II all bartered our future for Chinese geld in the form of T Bonds and cheap imports to keep inflation down. It's a vicious circle.

The received wisdom is that Marxism lite is better than communism, but that only really holds true in Germany and the Nordic states. Even Sweden is facing its crisis, and Danes work less than Italians, truth be told.

So tell me again where socialism works so well? Go shit in your hat.

lyle

The reason no one from the admin was there is simple: they might have to confront the Islam = terrorism reality. Can't have that. So the dick-sucking press pretends that they're upset, the WH pretends they actually care and then they wait out the news cycle. Throw in a heavy pinch of R bashing and et voila, problem solved.

Miss Marple

Beckel is a blowhard and a fool.

What courage has Obama demonstrated? He was forced into doing minimal stuff against ISIS due to public opinion. Remember, he originally acted like they were no big deal, and it was only after we had seen the barbarism and he did NOTHING that he finally got out of his comfy chair and did a few things.

The drone strikes don't require any courage. No risk of life, no effort on his part.

He's not a bit courageous.

BAH!

RickB

I don't know why everyone presumes President Merde Touch was invited. After all, his motto of no deadlier ally, no dumber enemy" is fairly well known. Especially within the Fascist Party itself.

Extraneus

So maybe we'll be allowed to keep our 401k accounts after all? Great!

Extraneus

He's not a bit courageous.

The leaders wearing kevlar vests under their trench coats in Paris displayed more courage in one day than Obama has in his lifetime.

daddy

Fun comment at a Patterico story on the President's no show in Paris:

you’d think we could’ve at least sent some terrorists from gitmo over to Paris to represent us

happyfeet

NKvirusedand back

It would be a huge story if Hollandaise told Obummer to pound sand and not come. But logic and circumstances say it didn't happen that way. If Obummer planned on going the security wheels would have been put in motion, and Sec Service sources say that never happened. The simple truth is Obummer/Iranian Rodent didn't want anyone of importance to go, why? They are MB allies and this march, as futile as it was, was a bad development for MB/Mullahs.

MarkO

Obama has the same courage as the actors at the Golden Globes. It is exactly the same courage one had to display that day one was called on in class to recite or sing.

All they fear is possible, minor humiliation. Their vaunted courage is to overcome it. Thorough several takes while reading someone else's words.

What, exactly, was courageous about killing Bin Laden when he had the chance?

Iggy

--Society still has to deal with the financial irresponsibility of the freedom marchers seeking autonomy from government intrusion.--

Granting your premise, government is not society. Government usually corrodes societal institutions.
The vast majority of people can and do get by in such situations with the help of family, friends, churches and other charities and by other means like remarrying.

To the extent government taxes people to do those jobs, and it does them quite inefficiently and impersonally, they reduce society's ability to help and function cohesively.
Society is further corroded by the notion in peoples heads it is now no longer their responsibility to help their neighbor because the government will.
You'd think an anarchist would get that, except you seem to be a single-payer-anarchist which I believe is what they term an oxymoron.

Extraneus

Reposting...

lyle

Anyone think the spineless Senators from GOPe will block Holder's hand-picked successor? Me, neither.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/396179/eric-holders-replacement-ryan-lovelace

O’Connell says that if Republicans appear to be picking on an African-American woman and using her confirmation hearing to voice their grievances with the Obama administration, then public opinion could quickly turn against them.

[snip]

Vitter says he still supports legislation to withhold funding for the president’s executive action, but he thinks many of his Republican colleagues are “scared to death” of even talking about defunding any portion of the federal government.

I feel SO much better now that Rs are running Congress. Don't you?

daddy

This comment from Ext is the first that has got me re-thinking my position on sending somebody to the Paris rally.

First of all, we couldn't send anyone higher than an assistant secretary who wouldn't be a complete embarrassment.

LOL.

Iggy

The difference between free markets and socialism is free marketeers can fairly say "free markets work wherever they're tried but you dumb socialists keep buggering them up."

Socialists say "Socialism never works where it's tried because it's never really been tried because of the dumb socialists who keep buggering it up."

Notice a common denominator?

jack is Back!

NK,

I think the reason he didn't go is simple: It.never.ever.even.entered.his. mind.

As my irish grandmother use to say, "he hasn't got the sense God gave a june bug".

lyle

I think the reason he didn't go is simple: It.never.ever.even.entered.his ValJar's. mind.

Fair enough?

NKvirusedand back

could be JiB-- as we've all learned... he's just not that smart.

Captain Hate

Do we even have a Bill of Rights any more?

http://weaselzippers.us/210783-white-house-declines-to-back-absolute-right-to-mock-islam/

Captain Hate

I feel SO much better now that Rs are running Congress. Don't you?

It's always about the next election for these dickweeds and never about doing what's right for the country.

jack is Back!

CH,

Thanks for letting me bring up term limits:)

The only reason I have ever considered term limits is the phenom of LIV's and how term limits would possibly limit the damage they do by voting for someone who sounds familiar.

Danube on iPad

"Beckel says the march in Paris was a foolish waste of time. A symbolic gesture."

Just like MLK's speech at the Lincoln memorial.

pagar

"So maybe we'll be allowed to keep our 401k accounts after all? Great!"

I wouldn't bet on it.

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/bobbeauprez/2013/03/30/irs-knowingly-sends-billions-in-fraudulent-refunds-to-illegal-immigrants-n1553242

Problem has apparently not been solved.

Ben

"Society is further corroded by the notion in peoples heads it is now no longer their responsibility to help their neighbor because the government will."

Have you read Dickens? You're self-help credo fails Hobbes' test.

Captain Hate

Term limits, please; it's one of the things that got the GOPe pissed at Noot and led to them looking the other way and whistling when the scam lawsuits began in earnest, just like with Palin.

Higher praise for a stance cannot be found.

Danube on iPad

Remember, this is a guy who thought Queen Elizabeth would love to have an iPod full of his speeches.

sbw

Jane, following the questionable security certificate for Scott Walker’s donation webpage I wrote to ask what one should do to donate to Scott Walker’s presidential campaign and received this reply:

As far as contributing to Walker, below is what I learned. Basically he still has an active campaign fund managed by Wisconsin GOP, which can be used for a presidential run if he decides to (all indications are he will). No Presidential campaign fund is set up yet, so the fallback is the funds would be used for a future gov re-election. The "Friends of Scott Walker" is the correct web site, or you can call the party and do it by phone. As noted, make sure to indicate "Scott Walker" on the contribution so it doesn't go to other stuff.

Now I just have to find which Friends ofScott Walker site it is. I think I’ll call and donate that way.

Captain Hate

DoT, he's seriously mentally ill which anybody with a functioning cortex could see in 2008. He belongs in a controlled environment with doors that lock from the outside.

It's like Satan playing tricks on us.

MarkO

Obama’s just not that smart©

Jane

Re: Sending someone to Paris - I think it all backfired mostly because there was no statement of solidarity - no announcement that the US suis Charlie, no comment whatsoever that I recall.



"Beckel says the march in Paris was a foolish waste of time. A symbolic gesture."

Just like MLK's speech at the Lincoln memorial.

Indeed. You need a twitter account Dot.


Ben

"Higher praise for a stance cannot be found"

Term limits in a vacuum?

CH; I respect your opinion but really. Don't we need more, like closing the revolving door?

Extraneus

Just like MLK's speech at the Lincoln memorial.

Was it really a similar thing? That demonstration was important because the intended audience was the American public and gov't, most of whom were sympathetic to the plight of the blacks. And those who weren't sympathetic were forced to hear the man's words and feel the guilt of their own racism when he talked about his little children.

Who was the intended audience for the Paris demonstration? Muslims? Did it make them feel guilt?

I still think it was a show of weakness. I'd have preferred to see far fewer, even if only 100, pissed-off Frenchmen go into a no-go zone and force the imams and rabble back into their homes, or kick their asses if they decided to stand their ground.

Maybe this was just a step toward that. If so, I'll be the first to say I was wrong. Well, maybe not the first...

jack is Back!

The new Charlie Hebdo cover:

"All is Forgiven".

exdemocrat

"CH; I respect your opinion but really. "
- damned by feigned praise.

exdemocrat

"Who was the intended audience for the Paris demonstration?"
not muslims, the participants.

jack is Back!

BTW, they are running 3 million copies. Their usual run is 60K.

daddy

"Beckel says the march in Paris was a foolish waste of time. A symbolic gesture."

Just like MLK's speech at the Lincoln memorial.

Well stated, DoT.

jack is Back!

In Baier's interview of Pritzker he asked about the New York Times poll that 64% of Americans don't believe in the American dream. I wonder the percentage of that group who had their savings in Superior Bank?

daddy

First of all, we couldn't send anyone higher than an assistant secretary who wouldn't be a complete embarrassment.

And speaking of complete embarrassments:

Je suis Samantha Power

Extraneus

What is it with these blondes telling us the news? I realize that sex sells, but seriously. Why do we need hot babes informing us about terrorism?

CNN: Terrorism really isn’t Obama’s ‘issue’

Publius of Idaho

Lyle,

I sent you an email in response to your 11:24 pm of last night.

Thomas Collins

Ben, what happened to you? You usually downgrade grandiose general statements (such as one that a monarch will better look after the public interest because the flowering of his people redounds to his own benefit) with a reference to self-interest. Why no exposition on Hobbes' tilting toward the Crown in its dispute with Parliament with an analysis of whether Hobbes is simply favoring the Crown on policy, not a carefully thought out judgment on who is less prone to operate on selfishness? Plus, even if one accepts Hobbes' view of the Leviathan, that doesn't answer the question of what type of framework of rules the Leviathan should promulgate. If you want to play let's see what the political philosophers argue, Aristotle in the Politics made a case that the most stable type of government involves the middling element mediating between the oligarchs and the people. Plato's Laws references a mixed monarchy and democracy as being the best regime. As far as Hegel goes, if history ended at the Battle of Jena, we're all just operating on ceremony anyway. Methinks you are simply playing the "let's take a quote out of context from Wiki and run with it" approach.

Extraneus

Ah yes, Samantha could have held up her printed hashtag poster in Obama-font, if only we had sent her to lock arms with Netanyahu....

What a missed opportunity.

daddy

Good to hear Bret Baire confirm that the Secret Service said they were not asked about security for Paris.

Fornier says this was an unforced error, but we are getting a little over our skis in criticizing the President for not going to Paris.

daddy

Ron Fornier says he would not have advised President Obama to go overseas because what would have happened if we had been attacked while was Obama overseas, to which Jonah quips, "that's why God gave us Vice-Presidents."

Anybody know if Fornier thought Obama shouldn't have traveled to Mandela's funeral for the same reason?

Miss Marple

The magazine cover should be interpreted as "Because I (Mohammed) hold this sign, all is forgiven."

Let's not forget there were people like Abbas in that group of leaders.

Thomas Collins

I wouldn't mind Obama staying in the bunker (or the green or the tee or the fairway or the nineteenth hole smoking Newports, for that matter ) if I thought he was seriously thinking about (I) announcing that any jihadist attack is the responsibility of any group (whether a regime or non-state actor) that supports jihadists financially, provides shelter or provides personnel for jihadist attacks, even if a particular group was not involved in the attack in question, and (II) proves he means what he says by going Andrew Jackson on ISIS. But I know he's not doing that.

henry

sbw, the site you are looking for is this one. That is the one in the mailers. (If you call and don't get an answer, try the WI GOP site further down in the email).

Ben

" Methinks you are simply playing the "let's take a quote out of context from Wiki and run with it" approach."

Thomas; I have respect for you and others here, but please don't be so literalist. Hobbes was merely a point. Hobbes merely states that there is not much gravitas in public opinion. It is antithetical to progress to impugn them with moral sensibility or a sense of community standards acceptable to their private interest.

My point is that there are matters beyond the veil of personal interest that transcend the body politic. NIMBY rules supreme and until the time when all recognize their participation in good government trumps their selfish goals the wheel will continue to spin without progress toward the eventuality where all can be satisfied without satiation that can never be achieved save the circumstance where a few are satiated at the expense of the many.

daddy

I have no problem with the 3 Million French Rally.

If people have to start slowly getting on the same page, so be it. Could anyone 10 days ago have imagined 3 million people and 44 World Leaders marching thru the streets of Paris in fairly apparent solidarity against the threat of Militant Islam? I sure couldn't.

Daniel Hannen on Prager's show the other day said he had really noticed an honest change in the mood and the feeling in France, especially from the soft Left, moving away from their knee-jerk apologizing for daring to offend Islam. He believes this is a real change of attitudes and of consequence.

Whether anything does come of it, we can't say, but things have to start somewhere, and to poo-poo this Rally seems to me way premature. Stuff like this has to happen among huge numbers, and that's why I think DoT's mention of MLK as an example is apropos.

To the dogs. BTW, my wife is an Ohio State Grad, so excuse me for pulling for Oregon.

Beasts of England

Thanks for that assessment, Ben. I wish you'd have written that the first time with a simple link to the Wiki entry...

Sandy  "I Stand with Walker 2016"  Daze    ن

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Extraneus

Let's not forget there were people like Abbas in that group of leaders.

A man who would have been killed a long time ago if he weren't valuable to the cause.

Ben

Of course Iggy would object to mandatory voting by those qualified, but he can console himself that it was never enforced/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy


Athenian democracy developed around the fifth century BC in the Greek city-state (known as a polis) of Athens, comprising the city of Athens and the surrounding territory of Attica. Athenian democracy is the first known democracy in the world. Other Greek cities set up democracies, most following the Athenian model, but none are as well documented as Athens.

It was a system of direct democracy, in which participating citizens voted directly on legislation and executive bills. Participation was not open to all residents: to vote one had to be an adult, male citizen, and the number of these "varied between 30,000 and 50,000 out of a total population of around 250,000 to 300,000."[1] At times, the opinion of voters could be strongly influenced by the political satire of the comic poets at the theatres.[2]

Solon (594 BC), Cleisthenes (508/7 BC), and Ephialtes (462 BC) contributed to the development of Athenian democracy.

The longest-lasting democratic leader was Pericles. After his death, Athenian democracy was twice briefly interrupted by oligarchic revolutions towards the end of the Peloponnesian War. It was modified somewhat after it was restored under Eucleides; and the most detailed accounts of the system are of this fourth-century modification rather than the Periclean system. Democracy was suppressed by the Macedonians in 322 BC. The Athenian institutions were later revived, but how close they were to a real democracy is debatable.

jack is Back!

I think when you have two high powered offenses like O and OSU, defense and the running game/OL means a lot. All this talk is about the offenses and especially Mariotta. But like all big games, defense and special teams and turnovers/mistakes seem to end up being the difference.

Who will make the big mistake? Is there a Calvin Johnson rule in college ball:)

Buster McCloud

How the hell did I graduate from college without Wiki

Ben

"Thanks for that assessment, Ben"

You're welcome B. I throw things out to start a convo. I don't want to spill my candy in the lobby before the movie starts. :)

Jack is Back!

How did I become Buster McCloud?

Anyway, for all my Ohio friends especially Ann and Rob Crawford, Urban Meyer is a fellow Bearcat. And we all know how Nippert Stadium can make the man:)

MarkO

"Ron Fornier says he would not have advised President Obama to go overseas because what would have happened if we had been attacked while was Obama overseas"

It depresses and worries me that a man of such small intellect and enormous ego has such a large podium.

I feel the same way about Fornier.

Sandy  "I Stand with Walker 2016"  Daze    ن

I think in a world where some say "the USA needs to be taken down a notch," where "leading from behind" is established policy, where "bowing to leaders tin-pot potentates of other countries is routine, where "every country is exceptional" in its own self-image, etc, etc
that the fact that mao or another representative did not attend is not only not surprising, but a specifically intended message, which was summed up in one wag's tweet, i.e.:

"it was a meeting and march of world leaders."
In spite of what we may believe, that the President of the United States of America is the leader of the free world, what mao is explicitly ([lack of] actions speak louder than worlds) telling both Americans and the world over, is that he/we/America are not or are no longer the leader of the free world.

MarkO

Urban is slippery. Watch for that Patriots' trick play or worse.

I predict OSU. Of course, I thought my lonesome Devils might win at State.

Jane

Now I just have to find which Friends ofScott Walker site it is. I think I’ll call and donate that way.

I belong to one on Facebook. (They actually changed the name today - from "Scott Walker for President" to "Draft Scott Walker for President".

Seems the the reverse would have been the right direction.

Daddy, I too think France was big - because of a huge shift in attitude. It actually took the moonbats a day or two to blame it on Bush.

Steve

Ford GT: This Is It

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/01/ford-gt-this-is-it.html

Captain Hate

Anybody know if Fornier thought Obama shouldn't have traveled to Mandela's funeral for the same reason?

Considering he pissed off Mooch by goofing around taking selfies like a poorly raised teenager at what was supposed to be a solemn event, a valid question would be why he went.

lyle

Publius, try again at kcturk at msn dot com. Thanks. I have Eric's contact info.

Captain Hate

Speaking of Urban Meyer, I'm still amused by the Notre Dame fans who went online when they hired Chollie Weis instead of Meyer, who went to Florida, with UrbanMeyerBadHire.

Captain Hate

I'm so glad the Terps never have to regularly worry about losing to the Fighting Debbies any more.

Iggy

Blondie and Debbie Harry in 1979 with Sunday Girl and Dreaming.
Top comment?
"High as a Kite and Lip Synching and I still cant look away."
She was something else in her prime.

Sandy  "I Stand with Walker 2016"  Daze    ن

As Pastor Manning colorfully put it, mao is a Long-legged MacDaddy, or as L.E. Ikenga wrote in American Thinker on June 25, 2009, mao is "...the African Colonial."

(1) http://tinyurl.com/povzpsf
(2) http://tinyurl.com/nwvay9s

MarkO

Yeah, but nobody is afraid of a turtle.

Jim Miller

Names:

I make so many typos that I hesitate to mention this, but, if only to make searches work, I like to spelled the names correctly.

Examples:

Bill de Blasio (not DiBlasio, or other variant)
Ron Fournier (not Fornier)
Daniel Hannan (not Hannen)
Bret Baier (not, unfortunately, Bear, which would be more fun)

Et cetera.

(I can usually find the right spelling of the name of a prominent person by searching at Wikipedia.)

Sandy  "I Stand with Walker 2016"  Daze    ن

from "...the African Colonial.":

The African colonial politician (ACP) feigns repulsion towards the hegemonic paradigms of Western civilization. But at the same time, he is completely enamored of the trappings of its aristocracy or elite culture. The ACP blames and caricatures whitey to no end for all that has gone wrong in the world. He convinces the masses that various forms of African socialism are the best way for redressing the problems that European colonialism motivated in Africa. However, as opposed to really being a hard-core African Leftist who actually believes in something, the ACP uses socialist themes as a way to disguise his true ambitions: a complete power grab whereby the "will of the people" becomes completely irrelevant.

Barack Obama is all of the above. The only difference is that he is here playing (colonial) African politics as usual.

Her essay was amazingly accurate. Worth a re-read.

About L.E. Ikenga: "I am a first generation born West African-American woman whose parents emigrated to the U.S. in the 1970's from the country now called Nigeria. I travel to Nigeria frequently. I see myself as both a proud American and as a proud Igbo (the tribe that we come from -- also sometimes spelled Ibo). Politically, I have always been conservative (though it took this past election for me to commit to this once and for all!); my conservative values come from my Igbo heritage and my place of birth. Of course, none of this qualifies me to say what I am about to -- but at the same time it does."


Ben

"She was something else in her prime."

Indeed. But you are dating yourself with that admission.

Why is it you drop the conversation when it goes the wrong way?

Captain Hate

Yeah, but nobody is afraid of a turtle.

Mark Turgeon is starting to change that.

MarkO

Give me Lefty.

Jim Miller

(And I left one misspelled name on this page out, accidentally.)

sbw

I know I asked before for pointers to names of articulate, responsible, evidence-based, liberal columnists for our newspaper.

I need someone to replace the Clarence Page’s we are obliged to run.

I’d like to ask again because my wife doesn’t believe that they are difficult to find.

RickB

Jim Miller,

The most commonly misspelled named here is Giuliani. I don't see Guilani very often anywhere else but JOM sure makes up for it.

Captain Hate

Gary did his best to bring Lefty, a Duke grad, back into the fold once the stain of Bob Wade was just a vague memory.

Iggy

--Why is it you drop the conversation when it goes the wrong way?--

I wasn't aware I was having one nor what direction it was going.
Besides aren't you the guy that told me not to respond to you at all not too long ago?

--Indeed. But you are dating yourself with that admission.--

Hey I was 20 and she seemed like an old lady already to me at the time; but a rather tasty one.

Eric in Boise

Why is it you drop the conversation when it goes the wrong way?

Why can't you have a discussion with people of opposing viewpoints without provoking and/or taunting them?

Perhaps it's the same reason.

Iggy

--The most commonly misspelled named here is Giuliani.--

Yeah, my paternal grandmother and favorite great uncles were Giulianis but whaddya gonna do?

Miss Marple

My sister (moderate GOP and a nurse who despises Obama) called me tonight about Paris. She was steamed.

I told her about the Secret Service saying they hadn't been asked and she got more steamed.

Ppeople expect their president to ACT LIKE A PRESIDENT. This is why the Left hated Bush landing on that aircraft carrier. And the "Mission Accomplished" sign wasn't a big scandal until they had ginned up opposition to the US in Iraq. Then they DEMANDED that it not be used in ads.

There are some images that are powerful in their own right, regardless of the practical effects. The world leaders following Kennedy's caisson come to mind. Who can forget Charles de Gaulle and Haille Selassie walking together? I certainly remember it, and I was only 15.

Obama threw that away, damaging our relationship with the French and making the American people feel like they are leaderless (which they are, but they didn't realize it until this happened). That is why the people at Sandy's church were so upset.

Jim Miller

RickB - I wouldn't be surprised if you are right. After all these years, Giuliani's name still gives me enough trouble so that I look it up before I use it in a post, or comment.

Danube on iPad

Rooting for OU but think OSU will prevail. With line at seven I would definitely bet on OSU.But I'm really fond of the Ducks.

Ben

"Besides aren't you the guy that told me not to respond to you at all not too long ago?"

Well, maybe :0

rich@gmu

are they playing the game at Jerry's Pleasure Place?

Jack is Back!

Sandy,

Ibo = Catholic.

GMax

Ducks and Bucks at Jerry World. I think the only common opponent of both teams this year is Michigan State. The Spartans were up at half against the Ducks, but faded under the up tempo offense in the 2nd half. I dont think the Spartans ever had a lead on OSU.

I would have said losing their QB was a speed bump too big to get over, but it has not been. I think the Bucks take this one, but these are two well built teams with some incredible athletes. The Bucks have a monster on defense who may make Mariota flush the pocket.

Eric in Boise

Jeopardy:

Answer: "Duck and Cover"

Question: "What is OU winning by seven points or more tonight?"

rich@gmu

go ducks!

if nothing else I can watch the replay of them destroying FSU (too bad that couldn't have gone on and on).

rich@gmu

ha is Lee Corso tanked up?

Jack is Back!

Buckeyes now have a 64% chance of winning. Corso's record of picks.

Buckeye

Grocery stores in Columbus brought in 100s of ducks over the weekend.

We had ours.

Now the team needs to have theirs.

Jane on Ipad

Mark, you are on a roll.

Jim, gee, I'm not sure I needed to know how badly I spell mostly because I will never remember the right way.

Obama still thinks being president is about being cool. Everything else screws with his mind - which I truly enjoy.

rich@gmu

ha ... the Oregon Cheer squad

http://coed.com/2015/01/08/oregon-ducks-cheerleaders-hot-instagram-photos/#!gallery-809205-809311-101

Danube on iPad

At least ten times (including tonight's pre-game) I have heard it said that under the old system we would have had Alabama vs. Florida State. But it seems to me it would have been Bama vs. Oregon.

Am I missing something?

GMax

How lucky can you be for a football to take that friendly of a bounce? Could be an omen...

rich@gmu

an Oregon fumble ... yikes.

Jack is Back!

WW2 was won faster than this decision.

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