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January 21, 2015

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Beester

James D. The flags are being planted state by state.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/life-on-the-march-231-new-pro-life-laws-since-2010-according-to-guttmacher

The soldiers for life keep marching despite the cowards in D.C.

Jane

Jane-- the game officials were notified by at least one of the Colt players (personally I think Harbaugh of the Ravens tipped the Colts

My question was, since the refs handle the ball, why didn't they know? Why did they have to be told? Was it that small of a difference?

Starting to sound like a set-up.

lyle

Parody is dead:

Police have purportedly released this video in the hopes that the public would help investigators identify the over 180 looters who ransacked the building. But some are not buying that claim. They say that the release of this video is designed to shape public opinion and frame those who took to the streets to protest the grand jury decision in Ferguson as criminals.

“It’s a dramatic illustration of law enforcement attempting to subvert the emerging narrative of Black youth energized and engaged, flooding the streets of this country in demonstrative displays of their anger,” wrote Atlanta Black Star columnist Nick Chiles. “The multiracial ‘die-ins’ and marches across the country had largely erased from the public’s mind the images of riots and lawlessness that were sparked by the grand jury’s decision on Nov. 24.”

“But from the St. Louis police we get a reminder: They’re not politicized young people fiercely exercising their first amendment rights; they’re just criminals and thugs stealing stuff,” he added.

I wonder if even the brilliant Iowahawk could have pulled this off. The only thing that might have made this more bizarre was if the Atlanta Black Star columnist's first name was "Jackie."

Sandy--I Stand with Walker 2016--Daze   ن

Janet,

should have mentioned earlier;
THANK YOU for sending along:

KrisAnne Hall puts Liberal Attorney in his place

1'32" of fire

Danube on iPad

"I'm not a fan."

Strange. I'm not a fan of NASCAR--so this is the first time I've ever mentioned it on this website.

My uninformed guess is that Brady told someone on the staff to soften the balls before the game (he was on record in the past as saying he preferred a softer ball).

Janet - healthy and jolly as a joker!

I went to the March For Life today for about 2 hours. What a crowd...& SO many young people. It really is amazing.
I left early (can't leave my father-in-law alone too long).

Sen. Tim Scott spoke & he was wonderful. Lots of other Congressmen too.
One thing that struck me was how we rarely hear about the pro-life caucus.
The Congressional Black Caucus moves it's big toe & it is front page news...but there are other groups, some pretty big, & we rarely hear what THEY are doing.

Iggy

--I think the poularity of the game matters to them as well, and it's at an all-time high.--

Peak football.

anonamom

Oh, Tom most certainly didn't TELL anybody to deflate the balls---I am sure he just happened to mentioned that when it's that cold, a less than fully inflated ball suits him better.

You know, along the lines of
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?

Miss Marple

Some official was on the radio (Dana Loesch who although in Texas still has Missouri connections) and when I went into the room (putting laundry away) he was saying that they wanted to remind everyone RIGHT NOW that destroying emails is a felony, and that they want to know if there was any collusion with the White House.

This is about Governor Nixon and the reports he sent the Guard home before the riots started.

NKvirusedand back

Jane- just so I understand, you're fine with Belichick/Brady deliberately violating league rules in order to gain the advantage of Brady throwing balls which have a more comfortable feel to him, by deflating balls after they have been inspected by the game officials to comfirm rules compliance, because as the League rules don't impose a penalty afecting the game outcome (only a fine and loss of draft pick) which penalty Belichick is willing to accept if they were caught. You find all this acceptable behavior?

lyle

That's a great link, Sandy! Were that we had congresscritters who could extemporate as clearly and passionately as she. Alas.

NKvirusedand back

From Insty-- I loved this car 10 years ago -- way out of my price range, waaay out: http://www.wired.com/2015/01/well-didnt-work-turns-americans-didnt-want-70k-luxury-vw-go-figure/

Captain Hate

I think the poularity of the game matters to them as well, and it's at an all-time high.

I'm not sure how to evaluate that. Some of it's fantasy football activity, which is different than actually being at the games and having a rooting interest in a team. And some of it's just straight up gambling which used to be considered semi heresy by Rozelle.

I'm not sure any of that matters; just pointing out that it's different than just paying attention to one game at a time.

lyle

Front page of the WSJ website has a "news hub" link with the claim "Approximately 6,000 Islamic State members have died following U.S. airstrikes which began last summer".

Anyone believe this? How in hell can they know this much less confirm it?

Captain Hate

Sen. Tim Scott spoke & he was wonderful.

He got a higher level of support than Goober Graham but Lindsey is always one of the MFM's go to guys on Senate Repubs.

Jane

Dot,

Do you think he will admit it?

Miss Marple

Missouri story confirmation from Gateway pundit:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/01/breaking-email-shows-gov-jay-nixon-ordered-national-guard-out-of-ferguson-before-riots-destruction/

Neo

Obama said that as a former senator himself, he understood how outside forces -- like special interests and donors -- can influence senators to act, one of the senators recounted.

That's when Menendez stood up to challenge the President, telling Obama he took "personal offense" to his assertions, the New York Times reported, arguing that he has worked to curb Iran's nuclear ambitions for many years and was not motivated by political considerations.

Jane

Jane- just so I understand, you're fine with Belichick/Brady deliberately violating league rules in order to gain the advantage of Brady throwing balls which have a more comfortable feel to him, by deflating balls after they have been inspected by the game officials to comfirm rules compliance, because as the League rules don't impose a penalty afecting the game outcome (only a fine and loss of draft pick) which penalty Belichick is willing to accept if they were caught. You find all this acceptable behavior?

NK, just so I understand, you are fine with accusing two people of something that you have no proof that they did? You are fine making shit up just to condemn the people.

You find that all acceptable behavior?

Neo

"Approximately 6,000 Islamic State members have died following U.S. airstrikes which began last summer".

I'd seen a 4,000 number somewhere, which also stated that some 200 or so where executed when they wanted to leave.

Jane

Oh and NK, you didn't answer my question about why the refs didn't pick up on it - since apparently you know everything.

Sandy--I Stand with Walker 2016--Daze   ن

Body counts--even if they make them up.

It's all they got left.

Last time, IIRC correctly, when enemy body counts were in vogue was during lbj. Someone should ask that harpie psaki, where is the breakdown week over week of deaths?

They are claiming about a thousand a month. Elsewhere it is claimed, "yeah, well, the IS is growing with 1500 more fighters a month..." so you are further behind then when the unnamed operation (AFAIK) began (if anyone knows what the operations name is, please advise).

Kerry has also reportedly made the claim that the "coalition" has taken back 270square miles of territory previously held by the IS. 270 square miles is a what, a patch 30 miles long by nine miles wide??? Big effing deal.

No only, but I doubt any thing coming out of their pie holes.

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your plan you can keep your plan.

L I A R. all of them.

lyle

I'd seen a 4,000 number somewhere, which also stated that some 200 or so where executed when they wanted to leave.

Which brings up an interesting point. Just because some hack is claiming 6,000, it would be a stretch of the causation/correlation formulation to claim all these casualties are a result of US bombing strikes, yes?

Miss Marple

Leaving for evening. Back later.

Jim Eagle

Sandy, LOL. Body counts from optical air intelligence? I have some expertise in that since I wa AI for my 10 years reserve duty. Lord love a duck o that being an infallible stat.

Tom Brady just put more bodies under the bus than the Obama ghost coalition has killed in ISIL bombing raids.

daddy

In all this business about deflated Footballs I'm catching up on I have not heard one time the term "Pigskin"

WTH?

Are we doing this unconsciously to appease Islam?

Beats me, but I think from here on out, any red blooded American commenting on "DeflateGate" needs to use the term "Pigskin" when discussing this.

Je suis Charlie PigskinGate!

Good Morning.

Beester

Janet, thanks for the first-person account on the March for Life. We had several busloads of marchers from our parish.

Deflategate...sure is creating a lot of hype around the big game. Just sayin'

Jane

Hi Daddy,

Brady seems to be doing a very good job at this press conference -

Anyone else watching it?

Dave (in MA)

Stay classy, Drudge.

Cecil Turner

The A-10 was designed to operate on the WW III battlefileds of Europe and it was designed for survivability against massed tank formations with first rate anti-aircraft defenses.

It was designed around 1970, at about the same time its nemesis (the SA-7) became operational. The bottom line is that aircraft can't hang around at low altitude any more, because the enemy can afford to trade $50K missiles for $50M fighters at the rate of several hundred to one . . . and you ain't gonna win that one. The only thing saving us so far is that the Russians haven't been helping our enemies . . . and I strongly suspect that's about to change.

To answer a couple other points raised above: 1) the Apaches in the Iraq engagement I mentioned were doing a deep mission . . . the Rand report at the time said something like "the Army should rethink it's helicopter doctrine" . . . I think it's a fine CAS machine, but they're amazingly resistant to using it as such; 2) fast movers are perfectly adequate for CAS, and the only real argument for a slower platform is for the pilot having to acquire the target himself visually . . . and those days (hopefully) are over . . . the USMC has been using Harriers for decades now, effectively. Again, the issue there is training.

lyle

If you were to stumble upon an editorial that begins:

In his powerful and inspirational State of the Union address, President Obama devoted time to economic proposals that have no chance of being approved by the Republican-controlled Congress.

Your next physical impulse would be _________?

NKvirusedand back

They did. The refs impounded and tested the game balls. Apparently under the league rules, that is all they can do. The rules apparently provide no in game penalty for using improper equipment. 11 of 12 balls all the same 2 lbs under, all made 2 lbs under after the referee check, one ball was fully inflated, kickers keep one ball to punt and place kick. So Jane I accept your answer, ASSUMING those are the facts, this is all good for Jane. Kraft pays the $$$ ($25,000 X 11 = $275,000, maybe)fine, BeliCheat loses a 3rd round draft pick, Tommie goes home to Giselle. I wonder if Tommie will be uncomfortable with harder balls in the Super Bowl?

Jim Eagle

Good morning? Where the hell are you daddy, Australia?

NKvirusedand back

What is Lord Prissy Brady saying?

Jim Miller

Richard Engel gave those 1,000/month ISIS killed, 1,500/month recruited, numbers in his brief chat with Brian Williams. I assume Engels got them from some Pentagon estimate.

(Incidentally, if you haven't see that video, check it out, if only to see Brian Williams's reaction to hearing some news he doesn't like.)

Jim Eagle

BTW, one other thing: When you consider Young Mr. Brady and the Tuck Rule, it stands to reason he would from that point on prefer a softer ball that he can safely tuck in better.

Just sayin'

new lurker

I am, Jane. He seems to be dressed for skiing instead of a press conference.

NKvirusedand back

OK I read the live accounts/quotes of the Brady presser. It reminds me of 2 things: Don Corleone telling the 5 families that HE will not break the peace if they allow Michael to come back from Sicily, and second, Eric Holder's F&F testimony to the House.

matt

6,000 would be 15 - 20% of the approximately 36,000 ISIL's reported. I still don't understand how 36K+ yahoos can control such a large swathe of land.

Remember, we had 10's of thousands of highly trained Marines and soldiers in the same space and did a crappy job of controlling Al Q'aeda until the Surge.

Decimation would normally have a massive impact on the morale of any unit, but especially untrained murderers. Enough of your buddies get blown up by A-10's and precision guided munitions and you will be a sad jihadi.

But they don't seem so sad, so I'm calling bullshit.

I can put you in touch with a few infantry brigade commanders who will gladly vouch for the A-10. Probably the most cost effective aircraft per kill since the Stuka.

sbw

When we get to St. Janes, remind me not to tick you off, Jane.

;-)

NKvirusedand back

I always thought the A-10 was based on the Soviet WWII Stormavich(?) tank buster.

Jane

SBW,

I'm not even that big of a football fan, but I really hope, if the shoe was on the other foot I wouldn't be that big of an asshole. I might be, but I hope not.

So new lurker, do you think he was lying?

Bori

Deflating the ball could definitely have some influence in the game. I was a tailback and cornerback in HS but with a slightly deflated ball, I was Joe Montana.

Besides that given the weather conditions it could make it easier to hold-on to the ball, thus preventing fumbles. It also helps to catch the ball, I don't know if anyone remembers what catching a cold football feels like, but, it is like catching bricks.

sbw

And, Jane, that was a compliment. :-)

daddy

Good morning? Where the hell are you

Just awoke and out of bed, JiB:) That counts as morning for me, regardless where the heck the sun is.

I'm in Miss Marple's town, trying to figure out how to go back to sleep again ASAP. Home tomorrow.

Jane

I took it that way SBW. Thanks

sbw

daddy, . . .

and where is Miss Marple?

sbw

She still asleep?

NKvirusedand back

Bori-- read a transcript of Brady's presser. All is explained, he throws the poor equipment guys under the bus. They'll get fired, but Bob Kraft will pay the fines for them.

Bori

I still don't understand how 36K+ yahoos can control such a large swathe of land.

Well, I think you answered your own question by recalling that they are murderers and very vicious. Something that they keep reminding those around them when they fail to obey.

Our forces are limited by our ROEs and laws. How many of our own have been court martialed for deviating from the rules?

anonamom

Going through Twitter to see the wits' take on Tom Brady's news conference, and I find this!

Will no one rid me of these troublesome inflated footballs?

daddy

Jim Miller,

Good link and good post to the Brian Williams/Jim Engle interview on your LUNed Blog. Your point well stated---Engle's rightly calls Obama's SOTU comments as describing a non-existent Fairyland, and William's quickly closes the interview by mentioning how happy the seagulls sound squawking behind Engles.

Jim Miller

Off any topics so far discussed: Clarice's "Satire" post has reminded me that I really ought to get around to doing a related piece on Washington's governor, Jay Inslee. (I have been thinking about it, off and on, for weeks.)

For instance, Inslee thinks we ought to save the planet by continuing to give tax breaks to rich guys who buy coal-powered cars.

(Explanation for those who might need one: He favors tax breaks for buyers of electric cars. In this state, most of those would be sold in the area served by Puget Sound Energy -- which gets about 30 percent of its electricity from a coal plant in Montana.)

How do you satirize that?

OH, and he also wants to make college more affordable by socking the UW and WSU with pollution taxes.

Jim Eagle

Memories!

David Gregory: DC Gun Law/ Ammunition Magazine. DC Finally Releases his Arrest Report.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/01/finally-obtained-david-gregory-arrest-warrant-affidavit/

NKvirusedand back

Turbulently inflated footballs, that's another apt historical anlogy for Prissy Tom's balls.

Remember BeliCheat does this because he can get away with it, not for compelling competitve advantage. A book quoted Kraft asking BeliCheat what advantage was gained from SpyGateVideo 1-100, BeliCheat answered '1', and Krfat called him a 'schuck' to create the issues over that useless edge.

Sue

Jane,

Are you saying the footballs weren't tampered with at all?

Some Guy

Random thought.

If an equipment guy prior to the pregame inspection were to inflate the ball to 12.5 psi, but were to do it with air heated to 100 degrees F, then those balls were brought into temperatures of say 50F over a period of 2 1/4 hours, what would be the change in psi?

IIRC, in tires, the rule of thumb was 2% per 10 degrees. If that held true in pigskins, it would only take about a 30 degree drop from 12.5 psi to get to the under-inflated level reported.

Which could mean that the equipment guy didn't intentionally "cheat" at all, if he was merely bringing them to min. required pressure in a room that was 80 degrees. Which given how overheated some spaces can be in the winter, isn't out of the realm of possible.

Jim Eagle

SG,

Correct but then that means that the Colts guy inflated his balls in a meat freezer behind the concessionaire commisary.

Extraneus

One nice thing about the Sheldon Silver arrest:

The authorities seized approximately $3.8 million of Mr. Silver’s money on Thursday morning.

http://donotlink.com/www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/nyregion/speaker-of-new-york-assembly-sheldon-silver-is-arrested-in-corruption-case.html

Jane

Are you saying the footballs weren't tampered with at all?

Sue,

I'm saying that we don't know yet. Were the Colt's balls tested at halftime or just at the end?

Fran Tarkinton was pretty damning.

Danube on iPad

"You find all this acceptable behavior?"

I do. Kinda like Gaylord Perry doctoring the ball, or George Brett with pine tar too far up the bat. But it sure is fun to see people get their knickers in a twist about it.

Sue

I don't think either Bellechik or Brady have said the balls were not deflated, just that they didn't do it.

Dave (in MA)

The footballs are ostensibly checked & approved by the officiating crew prior to the game, then left on the sidelines. There are something like 40 cameras going all the time at an NFL game. Where's the Zapruder video that shows someone tip-toeing over to where the balls are stored and letting out the air?

daddy

"Approximately 6,000 Islamic State members have died following U.S. airstrikes which began last summer".

Was there any mention of collateral damage to civilians in the deaths of these 6,000 ISIS fighters, or does that only happen when Republicans are picking the targets?

Jane

What I want to know is if the Colt's balls were also deflated in the 1st half.

Dave (in MA)

Just think; only 10 more days of balls talk.

Extraneus

what would be the change in psi?

PV = nRT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_gas_law

Science! One Way To Deflate a Football Without Even Touching It

If the Patriots inflated, stored, and/or tested the balls by filling them to 12.5 PSI in a 70 degree environment, the PSI of the balls would drop by about 1 after half an hour outside in a 50 degree environment, according to Schmaltz.

However, the NFL found that 11 of the Patriots 12 balls were “underinflated by about 2 pounds each.” In order for a ball to register a 10.5 PSI in a 50 degree environment but register a 12.5 PSI in the testing environment, the ball would have to have been inflated, stored, and/or tested in a 91 degree environment.

I have no idea whether the calculations in the article are accurate.

Sue

All I know is if the balls were deflated, Brady knew it and the person deflating them did it with Brady's knowledge.

Cecil Turner

Were the Colt's balls tested at halftime or just at the end?

I . . . am . . . resisting.

Ben

"I do. Kinda like Gaylord Perry doctoring the ball, or George Brett with pine tar too far up the bat"

A little vaseline behind the ear for that off-speed pitch, or a nicely corked bat.

Hmmm. Not very Cricket, is it?

Extraneus
It’s not obvious to think the Patriots would keep their footballs in a heated environment to help beat the test and make their footballs a little bit easier to throw and catch. But if Bill Belichick is as diabolical as some people say he is, and the Patriots’ organization is fully committed to bending any rule they can to achieve a competitive advantage, then it’s possible.

Looking over the NFL rules on the ball, there’s nothing in the rule book stating what temperature the balls have to be tested at. That’s one of the loopholes the NFL will need to address when it reviews Deflategate and adapts to prevent it in future seasons.

lyle

Just think; only 10 more days of balls talk.

Yay!

Extraneus

Wouldn't it make sense to have the home team provide the same balls to both teams? Why let each team provide their own balls? Seems like a dumb invitation to cheat.

Jim Eagle

My solution is simple. Just like truck loads. Seal the rubber point of inflations with an offical yellow and black piece of official NFL tape duly noted in uneraseable ink the date, time and officals name, address, telephone number and NFL designated ID number.

Captain Hate

George Brett with pine tar too far up the bat.

The umpires fucked that one up and MLB ordered the game replayed from that point on. It was the umpires responsibility to tell Brett to clean his bat off before batting, not retroactively calling him out after Billy Martin tattled on him.

Unlike this nonsense, the situation was handled justly other than Brett's subsequent ejection remaining.

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

ISTM the Colts balls are the control group and the Pats balls are the model group. I blame global warming and Mann. Too bad we aren't talking hockey (sticks).


NKvirusedand back

Ancient fighter pilot maxim, "If ya ain't cheatin', ya ain't tryin' hard enough."

Well that's a way to go. And if one is honest and direct that they are OK at violating a rule to gain an advantage and it's up to their opponents to catch them, I'll politely disagree, but I'll respecct the honesty. What I can't abide is making excuses for ourselves or our friends for violating rules we agree to comply with, when we condemn others for doing it to us. So I don't accept doctoring balls to gain an advantage; but other gamesmanship Belichick did these past two playoff games are acceptable to me. The ineligible receiver substitutions; he violated the 'spirit' of that rule to create confusion in defenders who didn't understand what the officials were telling them about the ineligible player. Hey, that's part of the game, the player is lining up uncovered they are eligible, defend it. Clever gamesmanship, but that's different from doctoring balls to make your QB happy.

Captain Hate

But it sure is fun to see people get their knickers in a twist about it.

Why have rules if there's no real consequence for violating them?

lyle

I saw lots of commercials Sunday promising 85 hours of Super Bowl coverage leading up to the game. Who knew it would be comprised of nothing but talking about...balls.

Extraneus

And why not have the NFL provide all of the balls, inflated mid-way in the spec range at the game-time outdoor temperature? Surely that wouldn't be hard to do or cost prohibitive.

lyle

And not one comment from Giselle?? Crushing disappointment. Okay, maybe "crushing" isn't the best modifier here...

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

Are they Schweddy balls?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DxeO-4lIpL8

Jim Eagle

The Huntress weighs in. Trigger warning: It comes from Mediaite

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sarah-palin-knows-who-also-has-deflated-balls/

Extraneus

Navy to Integrate F-35 With Beyond-the-Horizon Technology

The Navy and Lockheed Martin are planning to demonstrate a beyond-the-horizon anti-ship missile detection and defense technology using an F-35 Joint Strike Fighter.

The system, referred to as Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air, or NIFC-CA, uses Aegis radar, and airborne sensor and SM-6 missile to find, track and destroy approaching threats such as cruise missiles at ranges well beyond the typical radar horizon, Navy officials said.

Alongside Aegis radar and an SM-6 missile, NIFC-CA uses an E-2D Hawkeye aircraft as an airborne sensor to help relay threat information to the ship from beyond its normal radar range.

NKvirusedand back

Brett Pine Tar: Steinbrenner hired Roy Cohn to sue MLB over the decision to replay the game. I was in the Appellate Div First Dept arguing a motion the day that Steinbrenner's appeal of the denial of an injunction was argued. Cohn wore a purple sport coat and cranberry colored trousers, but his argument was restrained and legal like. He lost obviously. Here's an excellent NY Times link-- just like I remembered it, except they described his jacket as lavendar and his trousers puce. Justice Sullivan was an excellent jurist, I won my motion that day :) http://www.nytimes.com/1983/08/19/sports/sports-of-the-times-a-judge-ends-the-agony.html

Some Guy

JIB,

Re: the Colts Footballs not deflating or as much

Would it shock anyone if the vistor's facilities at a cold weather venue were not as well heated as the home teams?

In a big concrete facility like that, a 20 or 30 degree differential between one room and another isn't even out of the ordinary.

daddy

Let's do an experiment.

Inflate a dozen Pigskins in the Colts Locker Room to 12.5 PSI and inflate a dozen Pigskins in the Pat's Locker Room to 12.5 PSI.

Then test their pressure after 1 hour inside and then retest them an hour later after being outside on the field. Then after 2 hours. And then after 3 hours.

See if there's a massive difference between the 12 Pigskins from the Pats Locker room and the 12 Pigskins from the Colts Locker room. If not, then some sort of collusion had to have occurred after the initial inflation, assuming that all 24 Pigskins were properly inflated initially to the mandated 12.5 PSI Limit.

Then find out who inflated the Pigskins in the Pats Locker Room on Gameday and put him/her under oath, and then find out who had custody of the Pigskins after inflation and put him her under oath.

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

Are they Schweddy balls?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DxeO-4lIpL8

This is going to hurt the NFL just as the cheating scandal of steroids hurt baseball. "Everybody does it" is no defense.

Ben

Roy Cohn; self-described degenerate with a license to steal. His attire was as subtle as Liberace's.

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

I guess this POS software is in instant replay delay again. Sorry bout the double post...especially since it's Alec Baldwin.

NKvirusedand back

His attire and lifestyle were flamboyant and unrestrained, but his legal arguments were not that day. Steinbrenner didn't really get the loud publicity he was looking for, Cohn played it straight (no pun) that day, and there were lots of media in the court that day, for what is usually an argument in chambers.

Jane

Why have rules if there's no real consequence for violating them?

I keep hearing, from Pro football players - what DOt said. All teams do stuff like that and it's not a big deal, regardless.

I simply don't know enough about it all to know. But I agree with you. Why have rules if they care only followed on occasion.

What if this sort of stuff goes on everywhere, and the Colts just have sour grapes? I'm not suggesting that is true, but when they interview retired quarterbacks, they seem to say that.

Oh and Beckel said the "end" has the biggest interest in a deflated ball. I guess he should know.

Giselle

Tommy can't be blowing on the balls and squeezing them at the same, you guys. Oh my God.

NKvirusedand back

My view is enforce rules, vigorously... or don't have them. This 'everybody does it' attitude is corrosive on society, and it shows. Look at Obummer's lawlessness.

NKvirusedand back

PRAY FOR TOMMY!

Captain Hate

Cohn wore a purple sport coat and cranberry colored trousers

Shocking that he lost the case.

NKvirusedand back

OK -- Giselle was really funny, except she forgot to swear.

Captain Hate

I simply don't know enough about it all to know. But I agree with you. Why have rules if they care only followed on occasion.

Since we agree on this there's no further need for discussion. That was my sole point.

Jim Eagle

SG,

I doubt a dome team would not feel uncomfortable if their room wasn't at least 72F:)

CH and all you other beer + jazz afficanados:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NkbZlautuUc?rel=0

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

Is Giselle saying Tommy is a SMOD kinda guy?

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