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January 29, 2015

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Porchlight

Yes, Ext. And I would distinguish him from Perry (and I like Perry) in that Walker's battles were harder. Perry had the Lege mostly on his side from the beginning and the TX gov position isn't particularly strong.

Porchlight

Brett Baier says he was doing an interview with Walker today and he had to pause in order for Walker to take a call from Romney.

Ooh. Interesting.

It would be like Romney to make courtesy calls to all the presumed candidates, though.

Miss Marple

True, Porchlight. Brett also said he wasn't privy to what was said.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.

Extraneus

Anyone know of anyone who has paid a smaller price for his infidelity than William Jefferson Clinton?

Ignatz

--Anyone know of anyone who has paid a bigger price than Tiger Woods for his infidelity?--

John Bobbit?

NKvirusedand back

I like Romney, and I have to assume he has deep regrets about his missed oportunity in '12. I'd be very happy if Mitt coached Walker about national campaigns.

Ignatz

--Anyone know of anyone who has paid a smaller price for his infidelity than William Jefferson Clinton?--

John Bobbit, post op?

Jim Miller

Sad news (but it may get better): On his talk show today, Michael Medved announced that he has throat cancer.

Amazingly, he has been getting radiation and chemo while doing the show during these last few weeks -- but now his voice just needs a rest. (Understandably.)

He hopes to be back, perhaps by June. Mark Davis, and a local guy on the same station, David Boze, will be filling in.

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

Anyone know of anyone who has paid a smaller price for his infidelity than William Jefferson Clinton?--


Woody Allen? He's even ickier than Willie if that's possible.

narciso

I would have to dissent on family reunification, or be considered a hypocrite,

OT, it's an interesting hat trick, how the Chamber of Commerce, became a tool against
the interests of it's members,

Miss Marple

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/upshot/the-surprising-power-of-blue-state-republicans.html?&hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=c-column-top-span-region&region=c-column-top-span-region&WT.nav=c-column-top-span-region&abt=0002&abg=0

Even though this is from the New York Times, read it. He has some surprising statistics which we should pay attention to.

narciso

so sorry to hear that,

Ignatz

For Janet; Fed judge dismisses farmer's lawsuit against EPA for releasing personal information of thousands of farmers and ranchers to enviros.

Ignatz

That is a difficult one to beat.

Extraneus

FOIA safeguards personal or medical information that would “constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.”

Therefore, the invasion is warranted.

Beasts of England

I'm just impressed that the trucker had teeth to pull! ;)

Stephanie De Nile is a river in Progtopia

JiB, Hayney and Harmon were both golfers and IIRC golf pro teachers with established bonafides before they acquired Tiger. These last two guys Tiger has used/ is using are both nobodies with "novel" ideas about how the swing should work with no bonafides. Snake oil salesmen.

Extraneus

Washington decides to back Iranian proxy rebels in Yemen

Jeff Dunetz flagged a disturbing report via Israel’s Channel 10 on Friday that indicated Israeli officials believe that Barack Obama’s White House has agreed to nearly all of Iran’s demands in multilateral negotiations over the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program.

“According to unnamed officials, Washington ‘has given the Iranians 80 percent of what they want’ out of the negotiations,” the report read. “Jerusalem officials appear alarmed at the prospect that the United States will soon strike a deal with the Iranian regime that will leave it with a ‘breakout capacity’ of months during which it can gallop toward a nuclear bomb.”

That’s the red line over which few think Israel will allow Iran to cross. Many analysts believe, however, that Israel no longer has a military option available to it after deferring to Washington’s pleas to allow diplomacy to run its course for years. In the interim, Iran has hardened or buried its nuclear facilities to a point that many suspect they may now be invulnerable to assaults via the air.

In 2012, amid a bruising fight over the president’s reelection, Obama assured reporters that his threat to use military means in order to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power. “I think that the Israeli government recognizes that, as president of the United States, I don’t bluff,” Obama told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

Two years later, White House officials would tell that same reporter that they believed Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was a “chickenshit” for believing the White House and failing to attack Iran over its nuclear program. That’s what you might call “chutzpah.”

NKvirusedand back

family unification: a wonderful american institution, that became corrupted by the immigration mills. Like so many worthy ideas that the Progs abused and made into enemies of the nation (EITC, ADC, medicaid affirmative action etc.)

MarkO

"Anyone know of anyone who has paid a bigger price than Tiger Woods for his infidelity?"

Yes. King David.

Jane


The End of Deflategate

Science acquits Belichick and Brady. Even though we know in our hearts that they’re guilty of something.

We all know that Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, and the Patriots are big, filthy cheaters. (They are also awesome.) But evidence is beginning to pile up suggesting that on the specific charge of intentionally deflating footballs, they might be not guilty.
Bill Belichick

First up was ESPN’s Sports Science series, which showed how the pressure differentials in footballs manifest in the real world. They found that a typical NFL player could depress a deflated ball by less than an additional 1 mm. Further, the deflated ball weighed a less a regulation ball. How much less? About the weight of a dollar bill. Work in additional air-speed resistance and its not clear that any material advantage would be gained by deflating the balls in the way the Patriots were alleged to have done.

Then a group called HeadSmart Labs ran an experiment analyzing what effect changes in temperature and humidity would have had on the internal pressure of the footballs. They tried to replicate the conditions of the AFC championship game—you can watch the video here or read the full report here.

But the take away is that under the conditions of the Colts-Patriots game, all of the footballs HeadSmart Labs tested experienced a drop in pressure—and the average drop was 1.82 psi. Or, right about in the range that was observed at the game.

With that mess finally put to rest, if you really want to understand what the Patriots have been doing during the Belichick years, you need to go to school on Ernie Adams.

Adams is like the Smoking Man—a shadowy figure always lurking at the edge of the frame who happens to have all the answers. He’s the “director of football research” and if you believe, as I do, that Belichick’s success has been tied (at least in part) to Sabremetrics, Adams is probably the guy conjuring the dark magic.

If the Super Bowl is half as entertaining as reading about Adams is, then we’re in for a treat.


Ignatz

--I'm just impressed that the trucker had teeth to pull! ;)--

From the comments;

Tanker74d

It was his only tooth, you heartless jerks.

Beasts of England

That's the beautiful thing about golf*. It doesn't matter how good you are, you're never close to mastering it completely - and that leads to chronic mental doubt and then the desire to 'fix things'.

Like when Tiger decided to completely change his swing after winning multiple majors. All the gurus made excuses for it - better in the long run - but it was the start of the swing and coaching mistakes. Now, he's done.

*Beautiful for us masochists, that is...

MarkO

Dersh:

"I’m afraid of nothing, I’m hiding nothing."

Well, then again . . .

http://abovethelaw.com/2015/01/jeffrey-epsteins-lawyers-want-to-seal-documents-to-stop-the-frolic-with-the-media/

Jane

Porch,

Re: Tiger,

I'm talking about his whole life. He was on top of the world with no end in sight. He was making history constantly. He was endlessly popular, tremendously respected and a role model. And so much more.

And now he is nothing.

Beasts of England

lol, Ig! We know our demographic! ;)

Jane

Whoa: Jonah appears to be all in on Walker (well not all in, but he's currently his #1.)

MarkO

David was talking to God. Then, nothing.

Sue

If he could still play golf, no one would care. Besides maybe his wife.

Sue

Jane,

If the deflation/inflation doesn't matter, why have that rule?

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

For Janet; Fed judge dismisses farmer's lawsuit against EPA for releasing personal information of thousands of farmers and ranchers to enviros.

I give up.

from the link - "Twice in 2013, EPA released hundreds of pages of documents on concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFOs) to Earthjustice, the Natural Resources Defense Council and Pew Charitable Trusts, which had requested the data under the Freedom of Information Act."

RickB

I'd like to hear Walker's take on se vis pacem, para bellum. That and the proper manner to defenestrate the IMF/World Bank thieves while slaying the SkyDragon by choking the EPA to death.

Ignatz

Tiger Woods was never a role model; not to anyone paying attention anyway.

Jane

Don't know Sue. Sounds like it's a dumb rule. Altho accd to that it was within the margin of error, so maybe not.

Let's say the colts like more inflated balls than the Pats. Both were deemed fine by the refs who clearly didn't weigh them, and then both lost the exact same % of air.

But I am a very silly person to have a science conversation with.

Jane

If he could still play golf, no one would care. Besides maybe his wife

That's the whole point. It destroyed his game which frankly makes me think he had a little more honor that you would think.

Miss Marple

Scott Walker ‏@ScottWalker 4h4 hours ago

Had a great conversation w/ @MittRomney. He's a good man. Thanked him for his interest in opening the door for fresh leadership in America.
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Just posting pertinent stuff I find.

Ignatz

Nor is Paper Tiger paying the price for infidelity.
Some guys might be tempted and do something stupid and dishonorable.
He didn't.
His was a byproduct of his simultaneously regimented and spoiled upbringing and his attitude.

He's paying the price for bullheaded, unrepentant hubris.

Jane

I disagree Iggy. The first time I ever saw Tiger was in the National Amateur Tournament while he was in college (I don't remember what it was called), and he was down by 12 or something and came back to win the whole thing.

I loved him. I loved him from that day forward. I have no idea what you found wrong with him, but I didn't see it.

NKvirusedand back

Woods: other than his obvious arrogance which turned into hubris, I have no idea what his story is. It's been a long road since he rode the ferry sitting next to my young family in June 1995, after he withdrew from the US Open it Shinnecock with an injured wrist. He was what 18 yo at the time, he was a tremendous public figure at that young age, poised, friendly, polite, great smile. 14 years later he had become monster. As the Brits say, 'queer as folk.' his crash these past 5 years has been spectacular and it may get worse, at least professionally and financially.

Miss Marple

So true.

Janet - I wish my family had a poncho

Here's that link from 2013 that I used to post - "...the groups Earth Justice, the Natural Resources Defense Council and the Pew Charitable Trust. They were given information on roughly 80,000 farmers and ranchers."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/09/epa-acknowledges-giving-out-personal-info-in-request-that-included-data-on/

Danube on iPad

Too bad nobody asked Montana or Aikman about the science. Of course, that would have been inconvenient for those who had already made up their minds before the experiments were performed.

Brady says they gave the balls to the officials and asked them to inflate them to 12.5 psi. No one says that isn't exactly what was done. What happened over the next two hours could be called Science in Action.

NKvirusedand back

Jane-- the US Amateur in Newport RI? that was in '95 as well a few months after we sat next to him on the ferry.

Extraneus

If anyone's thinking about the balls being weighed, that's not what PSI is about. Different pressures will weigh the same on all but the most exacting scales. At constant temperature, 1 lb (per square inch) of air pressure in a ball that small would weigh an exceedingly small amount, almost unmeasurable.

NKvirusedand back

or doctoring in action. TBD.

Threadkiller
Reporter:Has the NFL ever tested the air pressure of footballs in the middle of the game, and how important is that as a frame of reference in the Patriots’ investigation

Goodell:“Just so I am clear, when you say middle of the game, do you mean while play is going on?”

Reporter:At halftime.

Goodell:“Well, I think we were pretty clear. We tested them at the AFC Championship Game at halftime.”

Reporter:Have they ever been tested at other games as a frame of reference related to that?

Goodell:“I don’t know the answer to that question. That would be something, I presume, that Ted Wells would look into and will provide that information.”

Sounds trustworthy.

Jane

Jane-- the US Amateur in Newport RI? that was in '95 as well a few months after we sat next to him on the ferry.

I don't think it was there. For some reason I thought it was out west. It was his junior year I believe.

NK did you go to the last America's Cup in Newport? '89 maybe

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Golf is an extremely hard game on the psyche. At no point was I 100% positive Eldrick would break the Golden Bear's record because he started having physical woes causing him to dial back that monster swing. Then when the marital meltdown happened he was a complete mess; although he had a few stellar first couple rounds before exploding.

Threadkiller

Maybe the scientists should wait for the lawyer, Wells, to weigh in...

Jane

At no point was I 100% positive Eldrick would break the Golden Bear's record because he started having physical woes causing him to dial back that monster swing.

What I admired was the mental part of his game. He had an amazing ability to focus. And he lost it all when he got caught. I suppose that is justice on some level. But I miss watching the old Tiger. Golf is just not the same.

Jack is Back!

Tiger won the US Am at Newport in 1995 and had to withdraw rthe 2nd round at Shinnecock because of a bruised wrist from trying to hit out of the fescue.

I know. I was there. To this day, I believe it told him to muscle up.

NK,

Was it the Orient Pt. ferry or the Port Washington one? Never heard that story before. My best friend in Southampton had his family host Tiger and his family during the Open. Not impressed with either him or Earl. And his dad is a retired full bird Army ranger,

Captain Hate on the iPhone

Tiger produced a huge upsurge of interest in golf; surely bigger than Arnie did which is a major accomplishment by itself. I believed, then and now, that there's a Faustian bargain when that happens.

Danube on iPad

Nothing compared to baseball science. I remember a couple of players explaining that the ball carries farther in Colorado because there's less gravity up there.

Miss Marple

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11376583/Olympics-Saudi-Arabia-proposes-to-host-men-only-games.html

jimmyk on iPad

"It destroyed his game which frankly makes me think he had a little more honor that you would think."

I suspect the physical problems were what destroyed his game. Everything about his mental state is just speculation.

boatbuilder

"Taught myself to do the two finger-two hand whistle and the one hand whistle in Junior High. Can still do them and the Three Stooges triple snap move. Very productive time of life, Junior High."

I'm pretty sure that was at Bates, not Junior High.

Miss Marple

I loved substitute teaching junior high.

The girls all thought they were 25, and the boys were making fart noises under their arms.

Jack is Back!

Slaap lekker allemegne.'

tots morgen. Mijn hondvraag.

Miss Marple

http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/how-ghost-boy-survived-over-decade-trapped-his-body-n296451

clarice

My guess is the NYT author on blue state republicans should have dug deeper. I think its not establishment republicans they like so much as the fact that they are not social conservatives, but fiscal conservatives and in recent years the establishment candidates came closer to their views,

Danube on iPad

I believe I have discovered the perfect response to those clowns who call wanting to discuss your computer;

Caller: "Hello, this is Mark. I'd like to talk with the owner of the home computer."

Response: "Hi, Mark. Give me the name of your organization and a phone number where I can reach you. I want to check with the FBI first, then I'll call you back."

Caller: (Pause) "Heh-heh. What's with the FBI then?"

Response: "I just want to talk with them about you, then I'll call you back and we can talk."

Caller: (Click)

Hasn't failed so far.

Danube on iPad

Lyle, please allow me to suggest a ten-week-old Golden Retriever puppy. No better antidote for grief.

Start searching tomorrow.

boatbuilder

The persistence of those determined to believe that Belichick and Brady are somehow "guilty" of "cheating" even after numerous unbiased and undeniably qualified physicists have clearly and concisely explained that what both Brady and Belichick have insisted they did with the balls--gave them to the refs and asked them to inflate them to 12.5 lbs--is absolutely consistent with the laws of physics* provides ample illustration of why the global warming hustlers have been so successful.

*while blowing apart the predictably mob-satisfying blitherings of unqualified hacks like Bill Nye and Neil Degrasse Tyson, to boot.

Miss Marple

Normally I don't pay attention to the Super Bowl except for the commercials.

You better believe I will be watching to see how Brady performs.

RickB

Claricee,

I found it to be another sedative piece directed at NYT subscribers. Prep for life during the After BOzo decades in rotting Blue Hells.

Ignatz

Ever since I can remember, long before his lovely Nordic cuckquean chased him with his niblick down the drive, El Tigre was a club throwing, fairway F bombing enfant terrible.

He projected a nice facade but every interview before and since is him talking about him.

Danube on iPad

"every interview before and since is him talking about him

And saying absolutely squadoosh.

Danube on iPad

Be still, my heart (via Hot Air):

"The automated poll of nearly 900 registered voters, conducted last week by Public Policy Polling, found that 48 percent of respondents had an unfavorable opinion of Clinton, compared to 43 percent who viewed the former secretary of State favorably.

While Clinton — the prospective favorite for the Democratic presidential nomination should she enter the race — holds leads over every major GOP candidate tested in the poll, she doesn’t break 50 percent against any, and some are well within striking distance. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker comes closest, with Clinton leading him by a margin of 45 percent to 42 percent (with 14 percent not sure who they’d vote for) – within the survey’s margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percent."

And Walker has only been known, however slightly, to the electorate for about a week. To me, the thing he shares with Reagan is rock-ribbed authenticity: you can tell that his every utterance is informed by deeply-held beliefs, without an iota of political calculation. Hillary, on the other hand, has never had a deeply-held belief in anything but the wonderfulness of Bill and Hillary, and is as obviously calculating a creature as we have yet seen.

This is very encouraging.

Jane on Ipad

Dot,

I solve the problem about the calls by not having a land line - for well over a decade now, and I've never missed it. We got rid of our office land lines in Jan.

pagar

So far behind that I'll never catch up so if this has been posted, forgive me.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/01/30/in-other-news-of-people-who-will-never-be-president/

It brings me great joy.

Some Guy

When Tiger Woods was a dominate player, it took not just focus, but a level of confidence that most normal people wouldn't find comfortable.

After his crash and burn then returned to golf, I remarked to a friend, "if he starts to play like his old self fairly soon, we'll know that the greatest golfer of a generation is sociopath. If he doesn't, then he might never reach that level of confidence again, but at least he's human."

Jane on Ipad

Some guy,

I couldn't agree more. I think you nailed it.

Jane on Ipad

Pagar,

I sure hope he's right.

Eric in Boise

Lyle, catching up, and I'm sorry about Diva.

They make you laugh every day. Then they break your heart.

And I'm sure Danube's advice is excellent, but after meeting you, I think you just might have what it takes.

(Drum roll)

When you're done missing Diva get…a Rottie puppy. :)

I had two of them, and they were the best dogs I ever owned. They were close to each other in age, and died within a couple of years of each other at age 12 each.

Strong, loyal, intelligent, and absolutely sweet, despite their reputation.

I miss both of them every day, but it's well worth it.

Porchlight

Let's see. A bunch of university professors in the team's home state come up with tortured ways it *could* have happened that don't also explain why the same thing didn't happen to the 12 different balls the Pats used in the second half when it was actually colder outside.

Or, a ballboy in the bathroom with 2 bags of balls, a quarterback with a known preference for underinflated balls, and a team/coach famous for trying to gain any advantage possible who have already been fined a collective $750,000 for the last time they did something illegal.

But, the SCIENCE is SETTLED. LOL.

Miss Marple

I will be gone almost all day tomorrow at an auction.

So I had better get to bed.

Nytol!

Threadkiller

To bad "campaign" Carl Cameron didn't follow Mitt's lead and announce he was going to have nothing to do with the 2016 Presidential election as well.

Jane on Ipad

I want to know what Campaign Carl does between elections.

narciso

Except public policy is a hack shop, fwiw. Hazel reveals that he was pressured to speed up detainee releases and Harman pipes up at well. Funny we didn't hear any objections at the time

Thomas Collins

Porchlight, I wasn't aware that the halftime measurements were recorded, or that the balls were measured after the game. Perhaps I missed the articles on this, but I thought the officials never recorded anything, and that in fact, at least before the game began, the officials may not have checked the pressure with a gauge.

In any event, I would like to know the specs of the balls in the second half, in which the Patriots played the most dominating football of the playoffs.

In terms of the integrity of the game, I wonder why more hasn't been made of Bill Walsh's headset trick or Indy pumping in sound or the myriad other ways teams other than the Patriots have tried to gain an advanrage over the years. Walsh's trick seems especially egregious to me.

narciso

There was an interesting piece in the Journal on the network that got the wife of the isis shooter over to syria

Thomas Collins

And it's not just in state physicists.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/jan/29/bill-belichick/factchecking-bill-belichick-deflategate/

narciso

So there was an attack on Americans in the kingdom but the nets didn't care to cover it.

Thomas Collins

By the way, I have never enjoyed the two weeks between Super Bowls as much as I have these two weeks. The PSI File has many interesting aspects. Bob Kraft demanding an apology from the NFL was a hoot of an owner's statement. Richard Sherman is always animated, and Marshawn Lynch satirizes the player press conference rituals in an unmatched manner.

Porchlight

TC, I think the league isn't saying they didn't test the balls before the game. They're saying they didn't record the measurements.

At the half the NE balls were tested and 11 out of 12 were under the limit. According to a WEEI report from a source within the Pats organization, those balls were confiscated and replaced with the legal reserve balls. Those balls and the Colts balls were tested after the game and were all legal.

I think the Patriot dominance in the second half is the least relevant of the arguments. First, if they cheated, cheating is cheating. You don't get a pass even if the teacher takes the crib sheet away and you ace the test anyway.

Second, if they cheated, no one thinks the AFC was the first time. They only beat the Ravens by 4 in much colder weather and that's with the gift of a bad call. If they deflated those balls it would have been for the whole game.

Brady obviously thinks 1 PSI makes a difference or he wouldn't be so finicky about getting the balls as close as possible to the low end of the range. He likes when Gronk spikes the (presumably) legal ball because it deflates the ball further.

I have no opinion on the other controversial activities. All I know is that ball tampering is specifically prohibited in the NFL rulebook.

narciso

So the head of the is caliphate in libya, is a saudi al anbari, sent by bagh dadi himself

Porchlight

Okay, some other non-Mass people looked at it. None of them have exact measurements to work with. The last piece you linked was evaluating Belichick's statement about the pressure of balls at the half.

Remember Belichick initially claimed in his first presser that he didn't know anything about the balls being underinflated until he walked into the stadium Monday morning, and that he had never before that day even thought about air pressure in the balls. Now the claim is that he and Brady gave the balls to the refs and asked that they be inflated to 12.5?

Ignatz

--And saying absolutely squadoosh.--

"Well, it was pretty tough out there...my driver wasn't quite on today so I was just grinding it out...trying to stay consistent and put myself in a good position for the weekend, I, I, I, I..."

Multiply by 1000 for every interview he's ever given.

Porchlight

I have been enjoying the ramp up too. I loved Marshawn's presser.

Captain Hate

The Atlanta Hawks have now won 18 in a row; if Golden State doesn't overtake Utah tonight the Hawks will have the best record in the NBA. Even though I'm a Cavs fan I'm genuinely excited by the turnaround Atlanta's accomplished this season.

I know there aren't many NBA fans here compared to the enneffell but the level of competition, mainly in the West but now extending to the top tier of the East, during the regular season has been the best I can ever remember. Although I can't point to any reason why this would be the case, Stern being gone strikes me as not being a coincidence. Let me put it this way, there haven't been any fines this season for Greg Popovich resting his stars on a road trip which has back to back games.

Thomas Collins

The more I read about the pre-game test, Porchlight, the more I am convinced the balls weren't measured for psi. The linked article is an example:

http://q13fox.com/2015/01/27/report-under-inflated-balls-were-approved-by-refs-prior-to-afc-championship-game/

As far as after the game, I guess we'll have to rely on the NFL's word, which given the arbitrator's decision in the Ray Rice case is not too reliable. Even if the NFL's word is reliable in this case, if the balls weren't subjected to as big a temperature drop from second half beginning to game's end than they were from pre-game to end of first half, the relevance of any supposed lack of deflation in the second half is questionable.

The importance of the history of cheating, it seems to me, is that the Patriots are being scrutinized far more closely for this than teams in situations in which the integrity of the game argument has more weight.


Thomas Collins

On the Belichick-Brady statements, Porchlight, I continue to believe that Bridget Moynihan's baby daddy had his ball keepers do what they could to keep the balls at 12.5 or below. Whether this extended to sticking a pin in the balls, I don't know. In the scheme of things teams do to gain an edge, not only in football but also in other sports, I don't see this as a malum in se situation, and may not even turn out to be a malum prohibitum situation.

Thomas Collins

I saw the Cavs/Oklahoma City contest, CH. I enjoyed it thoroughly. I watch more NBA games than NFL ganes, but given that each NFL team only plays 16 games and at most 4 playoff games, I watch a greater percentage of the NFL games being played. Cavs/Hawks would be an exciting playoff series if they met.

Porchlight

Well, sticking something into an already-tested ball to let air out of it would certainly qualify as deliberate ball tampering. I don't see any way around it. That's a far cry from the NFL proving their case, of course.

Threadkiller

http://www.csnne.com/blog/patriots-talk/nfl-says-solder-touchdown-play-was-illegal

Thomas Collins

I agree that would be tampering, Porchlight. As far as temperature conditions, what short of an oven or microwave is tampering is something I haven't figured out.

Now if Belichick finds a way to induce labor in Richard Sherman's girlfriend on Sunday (Pete Carroll apparently has given Sherman permission to miss the Super Bowl to be at the birth of his child), that would be tampering!

Captain Hate

TC, refresh my addled memory: when were you in Cleveland?

Even though I'm a Cavs fan, my rooting interests were divided on Sunday because I'm a big fan of Durant and Westbrook and right now they're looking up at the playoff eligible teams in the West with each game's performance becoming very magnified. The moves made by the Cavs GM to shore up areas of weakness have been nothing short of inspired but how do you overlook the Atlanta GM for putting together a bunch of unheralded no names who are just trucking everybody in their path?

Thomas Collins

I saw that, TK. The Patriots are confusing the officials with the eligible/ineligible substitutions. One way to solve that problem would be if a player is out of character (say, Vereen being ineligible or Solder being eligible), they would need to put on a mesh shirt over their regular uniform in a garish color (say, bright pink for a Vereen type being ineligible, and glowing green for a Solder type being eligible.

Danube on iPad

Porch signed on to a nothingnurger unsupported by facts or evidence, and is determined to swallow it no matter how increasingly indigestible it becomes.

Reason has become a highly unwelcome detour; Brady Derangement System has her in its grip.

When Super Sunday ends she will revert to her lovely and magnificent self.

Thomas Collins

From '79-'81, CH. Kucinich was mayor, Dorothy Fuldheim was in her prime, the Indians played in Municipal Stadium, and Lorin Maazel was music director of the Cleveland Symphony Orchestra.

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