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[Threadkiller]

Ted Cruz on work visas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3WCOCcCW2c

[jimmyk on iPad]

Hit, do your newfound powers allow you to add a link to the JOM Glossary Wiki on the sidebar under Useful Stuff? Just a thought.

[jimmyk on iPad]

Not too subtle Freudian slip by Barry's Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, who said in reference to Israel that “an occupation that has lasted for more than 50 years must end." Sounds like he's referring to the entire state, since they've only held the West Bank and Gaza since June '67.

[Jeff Dobbs]

For better or worse (and I think better) I do not have access to anything related to page set up.

(if I did, VIMH would not still be 8th on the Private Collection list!)

[henry]

From our ever vigilant lurker in IL White House blasts Israel for 50 years of illegal occupation of Palestine.

Perhaps not giving Israel a seat at the table will make a deal much more attainable.

Or not.

[Jack is Back!]

henry,

Had a funny this morning when I read how Israel had been spying on the negotiations and shared our so-called deal making with Congress:)

Obama just can't keep up. He and Lurch are the Abbott and Costello of diplomacy.

[henry]

JiB, which Obama found out about because he was spying on Israel.

[Old Lurker]

"Not too subtle Freudian slip by Barry's Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, who said in reference to Israel that “an occupation that has lasted for more than 50 years must end." Sounds like he's referring to the entire state, since they've only held the West Bank and Gaza since June '67."

Better not tell Texans that is the new rule.

[jimmyk on iPad]

Hmm, my source for the "more than 50 years" version of the quote, Pam Geller, must have been mistaken. Looks like he said "almost 50 years."

[NKvirusedandback]

jimmyk-- 'almost 50 years' so he used correct west bank arithmatic.

the bigger point here is that Obummer sent his CoS to 'J Street' the arab financed enemies of patriotic israelis. Obummer is a petulant putz who sees no USA interest, no duty, he only sees himself and politicizes everything from his personal POV. Bibi pushes back, so he is an enemy, and Obummer will use any means to attack Bibi and his voters, meaning Israel.

[henry]

NK, i assume that should read "J[ihad] Street."

[jimmyk on iPad]

Beat you to it, NK, but yes, with less than 2 years left in office Barry is letting his true colors show.

[Threadkiller]

Geller was quoting Times of Israel.

[Old Lurker]

Good morning guys.

Is it true TC is offering to do all of our tax returns for us?

Cool.

[sbw]

The JOM encyclopedia is awesome! Thanks bb, RB, and Jane for addressing my adjuster question.

[Threadkiller]

Hit "post" too early.

http://pamelageller.com/2015/03/breaking-top-obama-official-calls-for-end-to-israel-50-year-occupation.html/

[jimmyk]

Actually, from the video, McDonough says "more --almost 50 years," so he started to say "more than," but corrects himself. So it was a Freudian slip.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3JiMRfPdRw

[Threadkiller]

Local seal makes it big:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3006608/Sea-lion-pup-climbs-San-Diego-surfer-s-board-rides-waves-HOUR-California-coast.html

[Threadkiller]

For the first time Cruz uses the term and does not dance around:

https://youtu.be/94pHwMWN3YU

Will he be willing to debate his understanding? Since I am certain he knows how to diagram sentences, I doubt it.

[sbwaters]

So the US accuses Israel of spying on the Iran nuclear talks.

I doubt that. Wasn’t jfkerry@clintonemail.com public?

[Ben]

At first it appeared Maguire actually read comments and heard the hue and cry for ez access to interminable posts leading to double-digit page turning. Even more astounding as a precedent is a guest post.

[narciso]

Chisholm seems to have fed Isikoff a 'squirrel' and Couric has 'removed all doubt' yet again, re her alma mater

[henry]

The Tammy weighs in on OFA in Israel. Morning fun from Chitown.

[henry]

Rep Schakowski piles on at J[ihad] Street, calling out Breitbart Editor Joel Pollak:

"In 2010, I had an election… an election within our community. That is, I ran against a Jewish-Orthodox, Tea Party Republican who made it very clear that actually Jan Schakowsky was anti-Israel because of the positions that she took,” the Congresswoman said of Pollak."

[Jack is Back!]

At henry's 9:53 is the snark of the day courtesy The Tammy:

"Change your pants".

Read the whole thing. LOL.

[Jane]

Jimmy.

Are you as freaked out about this administration's position on Israel as I am, or am I over-reacting? Why isn't the jewish community totally up in arms? What is the reaction in NY?

[Beasts of England]

Spring has completely sprung in these parts. Forsythia, Bradford pears, croci - it's all around. Love may or may not be in the air, but the pollen certainly is!

And speaking of Spring, let's hope it's not too soon for Augusta. The last few years have seen the azaleas peak a bit too early for tournament week. Dang it: now I want a pimiento cheese sammich and a Heineken...

[jimmyk]

Jane, I think this is the worst situation since the '73 war, maybe even worse, since Iran and potential nuclear weapons are involved. It's very bad, and it will be interesting to see if Congress overrides Obama.

[Old Lurker]

Jane, as my posts yesterday showed, I am with you on the threat to Israel too. And my wonderment at the lack of outrage.

[Jack is Back!]

Bret Stephens is on his game today:

"There is an upside-down quality to this president’s world view. His administration is now on better terms with Iran—whose Houthi proxies, with the slogan “God is great, death to America, death to Israel, damn the Jews, power to Islam,” just deposed Yemen’s legitimate president—than it is with Israel. He claims we are winning the war against Islamic State even as the group continues to extend its reach into Libya, Yemen and Nigeria.

He treats Republicans in the Senate as an enemy when it comes to the Iranian nuclear negotiations, while treating the Russian foreign ministry as a diplomatic partner. He favors the moral legitimacy of the United Nations Security Council to that of the U.S. Congress. He is facilitating Bashar Assad’s war on his own people by targeting ISIS so the Syrian dictator can train his fire on our ostensible allies in the Free Syrian Army.

He was prepared to embrace a Muslim Brother as president of Egypt but maintains an arm’s-length relationship with his popular pro-American successor. He has no problem keeping company with Al Sharpton and tagging an American police department as comprehensively racist but is nothing if not adamant that the words “Islamic” and “terrorism” must on no account ever be conjoined. The deeper that Russian forces advance into Ukraine, the more they violate cease-fires, the weaker the Kiev government becomes, the more insistent he is that his response to Russia is working.

To adapt George Orwell’s motto for Oceania: Under Mr. Obama, friends are enemies, denial is wisdom, capitulation is victory."

http://www.wsj.com/articles/bret-stephens-the-orwellian-obama-presidency-1427153308

May be behind a paywall but i think you all know how to google it.

[Marlene]

Beasts,our first stop on the way home was Savannah. The next morning the truck was coated with pollen. I'm not complaining,I'd rather be sneezing because of the pollen. Five degrees here this morning!

[MarkO]

hit, this site is now far too user friendly.

Again, I say, Wally Pipp.

[Old Lurker]

Jimmy, at least in '73 Carter had not revealed any antisemitism and the WWII generation was still alive with current memories of the Holocaust and the formation of Israel. And for a time, the US position earned fear and respect, and as you saw, nukes were not involved.

This time only a fool would think that a Jihad nuke will not sooner or later come to NYC in a container ship.

[MarkO]

Obama and Kerry don't care a whit about the substance of the Iranian deal. For them the deal would mean a joint Nobel Peace Prize.

What could be more important?

[Old Lurker]

...as you SAID

[jimmyk]

OL, that was Nixon in '73, who despite some off-color remarks about Jews came strongly to Israel's aid in that war. Carter was no friend to Israel but fortunately had Sadat to work with.

[Old Lurker]

And I know we are of a "right now" mentality in most things in our society and markets, but do you really think that in the long history of the ebb and flow of Islam over the centuries, that waiting ten years for a legal nuclear Iran is more than a blink of the eye to Jihadists? Really?

[Old Lurker]

Of course, thanks for the correction, Jimmy. I was also going to refer to the pictures of our helicopter evacuating our embassy in VN to illustrate that as yet we had not been embarrassed about the security of our embassies...but I couldn't recall the date of that either so I left it out. That image, the capture of the embassy under Carter, the bombing of the Marine Barracks under Reagan, the embassy bombings under Clinton, the bombing of the Cole,indelible all, were all in the future at the time of the '73 war.

[DebinNC]

Jeremiah Wright, apart from his weekly screeds, published his church magazine, The Trumpet, for 20 yrs., with Jeri, his felonious daughter the editor.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-jeri-wright-money-laundering-case-20150223-story.html

Imagine the tsunami of antisemitism BOzo happily absorbed for 20+ yrs. that a real press could have gleaned from Wright's sermons/writings if they'd wanted to.

[Danube on iPad]

If Tom Maguire is to be Wally Pipp, he has to be Miller Huggins as well.

[Old Lurker]

Forbes: "Could Lois Lerner still take a look at your tax returns on IRS computers? It sounds preposterous, but a new watchdog report says former IRS employees still have access to IRS computer systems long after they have no official business with the information. The report is by the U.S. Government Accountability Office, an independent, nonpartisan agency that works for Congress. The GAO investigates how the federal government spends taxpayer dollars. In the case of IRS security, the report says not well."

[pagar]

""Not too subtle Freudian slip by Barry's Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, who said in reference to Israel that"

IMO, no one who was pro Israel would ever be hired by the Obama Admin.
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[FTL]

…waiting ten years for a legal nuclear Iran is more than a blink of the eye to Jihadists?

They have to be feeling some urgency. What are the odds of Obama's successor putting together a collection of punkass traitors anywhere near as compliant as he and his administration are at grabbing their ankles for the mullahs?

[Jane]

"Obama and Kerry don't care a whit about the substance of the Iranian deal. For them the deal would mean a joint Nobel Peace Prize. "

On Sunday, one of the Washington Insiders said he was in on Kerry's Viet Nam negotiations (which I don't remember) and said Kerry made all sorts of secret private deals to get the deal done which were not revealed in the docs. He said he has no doubt he is doing the same thing now with Iran. It was scary as shit.

[Jane]

Oh and that Kerry would do anything to get the Noble peace Prize and run for President again.

[Sue]

Jane,

and run for President again.

Is he going to challenge Hillbilly? And is he the one leaking to the press about her emails?

[Beasts of England]

@Marlene: It's going to be 72 degrees today with a 100% chance of golf. :)

[DebinNC]

WaPo: "The [Wall Street] Journal, in its Tuesday edition, reported the “espionage” did not concern the White House “as much as Israel’s sharing of inside information with U.S. lawmakers and others to drain support” for a possible deal with Iran to rein in Tehran’s nuclear program in exchange for easing of international sanctions."

So BOzo Inc.'s problem wasn't the Israelis knowing they were being sold out, but seeking help to prevent it?

[NKvirusedandback]

Bret Stephens is inching closer to saying in the WSJ what we regularly say here-- Obummer is an anti-american/ jihad promoting traitor to real american interests. Do you realize how big a deal it is that he is able to print this... in the WSJ?

[Porchlight]

Well NK, the WSJ editorial page has always been critical of Obama. But yeah, I'm glad some MSM outlets can still speak out.

[Old Lurker]

FTL, you don't think they assume a Hillary or Warren will be in charge?

[Extraneus]

Kerry made all sorts of secret private deals to get the deal done

Didn't Hamas and Hezbollah just disappear from the list of terrorist organizations?

[Dublindave]

It's becoming more and more obvious to everyone inside the beltway media that the strategy to place a rift between Israeli Jews and American Democrats came from the RNC and their desperation concerning about the dwindling support of the masses.

So let me get this straight,Republicans knew that in-bred rednecks and old white racists where a demographic that couldn't be mined anymore so they tried to create a new one.....mmmmm...........the jew?

Uhm.....o.k.You get the...uhm.....Jew.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth the U.S gets to change it's policy towards Israel ans hopefully rally for a two-state solution.

Uhm....thank you RNC?????

You Republicans,you're not politically gifted are you???

[NKvirusedandback]

Critical yes. But Stephens is inching closer to calling Obummer the traitor that he is.

[Jack is Back!]

As if there was never a doubt.

Top Obama Official: Reading Koran Reminds Me of "Quintessentially American Values" | The Gateway Pundit

http://www.wsj.com/articles/bret-stephens-the-orwellian-obama-presidency-1427153308

Not some Tommy Vietor or Marie Harf type but the guy who heads our Homeland Security. DOOM©™

[FTL]

OL,

Why would they take the chance?

The mullahs *know* that Obama and his people are putty in their hands.

There is a non-zero risk that the party of anti-American traitors will lose the White House next year.

And, even if the party of anti-American traitors retain POTUS, it will likely be a different cast of anti-American traitors who may not be so hot about kissing mullah ass.

[Jack is Back!]

Sorry, wrong Link.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/top-obama-official-reading-koran-reminds-me-of-quintessentially-american-values/

[Porchlight]

But Stephens is inching closer to calling Obummer the traitor that he is.

It is definitely getting closer to that, which I'm glad to see.

[Old Lurker]

FTL, good point. Where else could they find a POTUS willing to give away the store even while the leader on the other side preaches for the destruction of the US? Talk about a gift.

[JeanD]

Hit, while we all appreciate your service here, I can't help but wonder how this squares with your prior announcement that you were going off-line for a month.

Did you collude with TM to create a loophole that you could sell to Mrs. Hit, and thus be free to roam the internet again? ;)

[Janet]

Imagine the tsunami of antisemitism BOzo happily absorbed for 20+ yrs. that a real press could have gleaned from Wright's sermons/writings if they'd wanted to.

THAT should be thrown at any MFMers that attacks our candidate's faith or the faith of those they address.

Attack the MFMer. Make THEM explain Wright's/Obama's beliefs. Ask why it matters with the Republican candidate & not the Dem. candidate. Make the MFMer explain.

Ask 'em if they ever found out who set fire to Sarah Palin's church.

[Beasts of England]

For what it's worth: we've always spied on Israel (and everyone else) and they've always spied on us. Nothing new or necessarily nefarious, except that Ear Leader is possibly sharing adverse information with Israel's enemies.

[DebinNC]

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2015/03/23/no-point-in-more-defense-spending-with-liberals-in-charge-n1973781/page/2

I agree with Schlichter that increasing defense spending while libs are in charge is money wasted. I also agree with his idea re making Dems vote against a Repub bill barring BOzo's executive actions involving any country that hangs gays. Janet's link yesterday about the U.S. paying to rebuild radical mosques in the ME comes to mind.

[Extraneus]

Paul: Republicans “need to aggressively go after the Clintons”

“I think we do need to go aggressively after the Clintons,” he said, especially “their corruption.”

[Jane]

Dudu,

Are you bothered at all by the Obama lies, his shredding of the constitution and his abandonment of our allies?

[Dublindave]

Isn't it great that since Alice threatened the men of Justoneminute no man has actually responded to me(I discount Iggy and NK...no offence but if a 4 year old Muslim told you to disavow the United states you probably would).

But I've connected these post to Democracyunderground under the heading "Republican women tell their men who they can and can't talk too an Republican men follow the ladies orders".

You can't tell a Dem man who they can and can't talk too. I want my Liberal men friends to feel good about themselves.

[Old Lurker]

Jane.....

[Jane]

MM,

Any idea what mink is selling for these days?

[Extraneus]

no man has actually responded to me

Hey, what am I, chopped liver?

(Inside Jewish joke.)

[DebinNC]

NYT today: "The roughly 300 emails from Mrs. Clinton’s private account that were turned over last month to a House committee investigating the attack showed the secretary and her aides closely monitoring the fallout from the tragedy, which threatened to damage her image and reflect poorly on the State Department. ... But they did show that Mrs. Clinton’s top aides at times corresponded with her about State Department matters from their personal email accounts, raising questions about her recent assertions that she made it her practice to email aides at their government addresses so the messages would be preserved, in compliance with federal record-keeping regulations."

This new Hillary lie showcased in the NYT? Hmm....

[DebinNC]

Oops, the NYT Hil lie-exposure was yesterday, not today. Still amazing imo though.

[Dublindave]

"Dudu,Are you bothered at all by the Obama lies, his shredding of the constitution and his abandonment of our allies"

See how only the women respond to me? No man has actually talked to me since Alice threatened them(and don't start now to prove your manhood, that's even weaker)...but the Republican ladies do(maryrose,clarice now Jane)? The girls don't take shit!!!!

Maybe the ladies should run the Republican party,they certainly give the orders(right about now iggy and NK are internally debating whether they should respond to me or not to save their manhood....please don't).

Jane,even the right leaning WSJ has concluded that the souring of the US/Israeli relationship came from nethanyahoo,not Obama.

Also,I kid you a lot but your strength and inherent wit and intelligence have always made me curious about you.If I wasn't such a low-life loser(and I am) I think I could actually fall for you....or at least go on a few dates and explore the idea.Sadly,uneducated unemployed bad personal hygeine nasty assed me will just admie you from afar!

[Dublindave]

no man has actually responded to me

Hey, what am I, chopped liver?

(Inside Jewish joke.)

Alright,I stand proved wrong(again)!!!

There is strength in Republican men.

[Beasts of England]

I always talk to you, DublinDave! You're my very favorite troll!!

[NKvirusedandback]

and BoE is a real man.... just ask the hundreds of women who know that for a fact ;)

[Dublindave]

I always talk to you, DublinDave! You're my very favorite troll!!

You people think it's easy being a troll,it's not.I wanna fit and be liked just like everyone else. You think I like all the negative feedback about my lack of intelligence.......I have feelings too!

[Miss Marple]

Jane, Are you talking vintage mink?

It sells better than a regular vintage cloth coat, but probably not as much as you paid for it. On eBay, a coat sells for $100-$300 dollars on average. There are some exceptions. Tourmaline goes higher, as do known designers like some of the French fashion houses.

Here is a link to sold mink items on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=vintage+mink+coat&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=0&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=15&_stpos=&_sargn=-1%26saslc%3D1&_salic=1&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

You can scroll through and look at what sold and the price.

[Thomas Collins]

DublinDaveForPOTUS2016, I almost always respond to you. But you're obviously off your game. Trying to divert attention from Obama's catastrophic tilt towards the mullahs by blaming Bibi indicates to me you need either to lay off the sauce, or try a different blend.

[NKvirusedandback]

speaking of which.... I don't do well with dictates, I get onery and over the top in my response to those. I caused a bit of a stir last year when it was suggested everyone who considered thmselves a true american had to stand with steyn in all respects, and I disagreed with that sort of dictate in colorful terms. Wen a must not speak to trolls rule was 'proposed', I kept my mouth shut to avoid any unnecessary controversy. For a long time regular commenters have politely asked the rest of us not to speak to trolls becuase it is distracting and snnoying to them. That's perfectly fine to ask, and I accommodate that, mostly. But if a commenter would like to mock, or joke with or speak with a troll, that's their discretion. So there is no 'rule' as far as I'm concerned.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Barry hates America and he hates America's allies.

If America were transformed into a third world backwater like those he admires, only then would he no longer hate it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

And the great Pax AliceH comes a cropper.

[AliceH]

"So there is no 'rule' as far as I'm concerned."

In fact, there is no rule as far as anyone is concerned.

[Jane]

Thanks MM, those are incredibly bad prices.

Dudu, you didn't answer the question - nice attempt to get me to not notice tho.

[pagar]

Jane
"On Sunday, one of the Washington Insiders said he was in on Kerry's Viet Nam negotiations (which I don't remember) and said Kerry made all sorts of secret private deals to get the deal done which were not revealed in the docs."

The fact that John Kerry has been free to continue his sellout of the US since his Paris meetings with the enemy while that enemy was killing US soldiers will be a stain on US history forever, IMO.

[Miss Marple]

Well, I didn't think it was a dictate. It was simply Alice saying she was going to narcisolate people who replied, so she wanted everyone to have fair warning. People were free to do what they wanted.

I am probably the one who called it a "rule" for shorthand, but it wasn't really a rule.

I scroll past trolls, because I don't have time to waste with them. Others are bothered by them. Don't think anyone needs to get all upset about it one way or the other.

[Dublindave]

"DublinDaveForPOTUS2016, I almost always respond to you. But you're obviously off your game"

Well you might find this funny but sometimes trolls get really insecure and need reassurance. We're not all bastards you know???

[DebinNC]

This year marks 70 yrs. since WWII was ending/ended. Imagine all the commemorations we'd be seeing if we had a POTUS who loved America. I guess BOzo will be forced to do a drive-by wreath laying at the Tomb of the Unknown on Memorial Day, and maybe a WH gala honoring the Tuskegee Airmen.

[Danube on iPad]

Bumptious oaf Arpaio in a bit of a dust-up:

http://reason.com/blog/2015/03/24/could-sheriff-joe-arpaio-end-up-wearing

[centralcal]

Sen. Dan Coats R-IN announcing retirement.

[centralcal]

Loud mouth mush mouth Peter King says he will jump off a bridge if Ted Cruz is nominee.

Why wait. Why not jump now, Petey!

[Dublindave]

"Dudu, you didn't answer the question - nice attempt to get me to not notice tho"

You took me off me game and now I literally have nothing to say.....except...except......I see us traveling down the Amalfi coast, tasting fresh lemonella from the local vendors,dining in Sorrento and traveling to the grotto where Napollean took Genevieve.

You'll have to pay though as i'm on food stamps and have no money!!!!

Oh Jane,sweet sweet Jane,could a toxic nasty Libtard troll and a crazy right-wing chick ever make it????? If so,then maybe America can make it.

[Jack is Back!]

pagar,

As I have noted numerous times here, John Kerry shlould be serving out his life in the Disciplinary Barracks at Ft. Leavenworth, Kansas. Instead, the good people of Massachusetts decided he was more worthy than that by sending him first to Congress then to the Senate and now he is negotiating with our enemies.

Dejavu, all over again.

And Jimmah should be relegated to the trash heap of history for allowing his DD-214 to be change to reflect an honorable discharge.

[matt]

L. Gordon Crovitz in yesterday's WSJ points out that the day (Nov 10) Obama made a video touting our new Obamanet the White House sends an e mail out to its supporters asking them to "pass this on" and magically, a bunch of ultra leftist protesters, the only group pushing for Obamanet, shows up at the FCC Chairman Wheeler's house and Mau Maus his family.

This is jackboot thuggery one - two steps removed from the Nazis and the media has been silent on how it all went down.

This is coming out of the Congressional hearings, but where is our media? Bueller? Bueller?

Is this how democracy is extinguished?

[DebinNC]

I like Sheriff Joe, and apparently so do voters as he's been reelected 6 times since 1992.

[GUS]

Isn't there a prohibition vis a vis chatting with trolls. Maybe some of you have noticed. They don't troll when they get ignored.

Hit, you are now Lou Gehrig. See your doctor please.

[Dublindave]

"I scroll past trolls, because I don't have time to waste with them. Others are bothered by them. Don't think anyone needs to get all upset about it one way or the other"

As a troll I just want to be heard and maybe a response or two...maybe. But to be sent to coventry is like death to a troll. If no one responds to me then it's like I don't exist. Just a comment or two or even an insult here and there just to make me feel like I count.

[DebinNC]

Re trolls and single-issue posters, the adage "You get more of whatever behavior you reward" applies imo.

[GUS]

Miss Marple, the trolls who come here are MARXIST BASTARDS. I see ZERO reason to be friendly with them. In fact I would enjoy beating the piss out of either Ward or the WEEDOUCHEBAG.

[GUS]

I agree DebinNC, but I do not find the MARXIST COUP in our country to be humorous in the least.
Not to worry, we have a new DEAR LEADER here, and he will TCB.

[Dublindave]

"Isn't there a prohibition vis a vis chatting with trolls. Maybe some of you have noticed. They don't troll when they get ignored"

GUS is right....if you don't engage me then it's pointless me being here.

But then who the hell is GUS,who is an obvious racist to tell party of Reagan who they can and can't talk to. Reagan raised MEN,not cowards.He encouaged debate like it was a form of combat not Jinny carter-like ignore your enemy even if it means running away cowardly stances.