More Consensus On Climate Change?

At today's commencement speech to the graduating class at the US Coast Guard Academy, Obama centered his words on the need to combat climate change.  

Around the world, climate change increases the risk of instability and conflict.  Rising seas are already swallowing low-lying lands, from Bangladesh to Pacific islands, forcing people from their homes.  Caribbean islands and Central American coasts are vulnerable, as well.  Globally, we could see a rise in climate change refugees.  And I guarantee you the Coast Guard will have to respond.  Elsewhere, more intense droughts will exacerbate shortages of water and food, increase competition for resources, and create the potential for mass migrations and new tensions.  [...]

Around the world, climate change will mean more extreme storms.  No single weather event can be blamed solely on climate change.  But Typhoon Haiyan in the Philippines gave us a possible glimpse of things to come -- one of the worst cyclones ever recorded; thousands killed, many more displaced, billions of dollars in damage, and a massive international relief effort that included the United States military and its Coast Guard.  So more extreme storms will mean more humanitarian missions to deliver lifesaving help.

Coincidentally, in materials released today by the Obama administration recovered from the raid that killed Osama bin Laden, we learn that bin Laden also was preaching about the need to address climate change. From the DNI pdf of bin Laden's remarks:

Indeed, what our Ummah is experiencing, of effects associated with the enormous climate changes and the great suffering the natural disasters are leaving behind that now become prevalent throughout the Muslim countries, renders the traditional relief efforts insufficient. [...]

Similarly, we are in need of making major efforts in our relief work, as those victimized by the current climate change is a very large number, expected to rise. According to the studies, this number is higher than the number of people victimized by wars, for which the states recruit their strongest men, offer their best training and slash major portions of their budgets. [...]

And owing to the high frequency of such disasters caused by climate changes, the effort must not become merely one of providing temporary assistance, rather, to set up a distinct relief organization endowed with the knowledge, experience and financial capability crucial for the effective dealing with such more frequent, diverse and massive consequences of climate changes.

Of course, there is a difference of opinion between the two on the underlying cause of climate change. Where Obama claims it is the natural result of mankind burning fossil fuels, bin Laden focused on the judgment of Allah toward mankind for unbelief.

In any event, both Obama and bin Laden have effectively said that the cause of climate change is mankind's sin, and that to confront the effects it will take a lot of religious zeal.

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Comments

[lyle]

Obama/Osama, same diff.

[Marlene]

First? OT,but Hillary's campaign has announced she will be in NH on Friday. Her first stop? Smuttynose Brewing Co. in Hampton. Maybe her campaign is admitting she needs to be drunk before she meets with the great unwashed.

[NKonChrome]

Hilligula- I don't think she has to go to NH to get drunk.

[Dave (in MA)]

Obama/Osama, same diff.

The Lion of the Senate had a hard time keeping their names straight.

[GMax]

This Obama fellow is not very bright, is he?

[narciso]

shockingly this doesn't seem to be a concern with the Zarquawi wing, IS, wonder why that is,

anyways I was noting last night, how life imitates McCarry's Christopher series, Better Angels and
Shelly's Heart, I was reminded of the latter, with
how the prog Yalie organization, seemed to be embedded in everything like Hillary's foundation,

[Jeff Dobbs]

Smuttynose could also be a nickname for this guy:

[Cecil Turner]

What kind of moronic ideologue would use a service academy commencement to claim climate change was the root of all instability? Is the next step sending climate change mitigation funds to ISIL?

[NKonChrome]

Photo-- I just go with greedy perv.

[narciso]

Rush was pointing out, this piece today:

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-2016-is-so-very-important

[Marlene]

Howie Carr is on a climate change rant. Very funny.
NK,the stated reason for her brewery visit is to discuss small business issues. A brewery is as good a place as any I guess,especially with all those free samples. :)

[NKonChrome]

Coastie U is actually under DHS nowadays, but your point stands.

BTW-- anyone up in New England during summer, the Coastie U campus in New London is worth a visit, especially if the bark eagle is pierside. Connecticut College is an even nicer view, it's higher up the hill. The SubBase Groton is on the other side of the river Thames, worth a visit to see the Nautilus. Ask the guard house people where they put all of the WWII sub batteries, it wasn't very green tech.

[narciso]

apparently only USA Today bought the Abu Sayyaf squirrel, and only as an aside, in an interview with Susan Rice, Carlos Slim's will eventually come around,

http://therightscoop.com/boom-ted-cruz-slams-the-media-for-being-obsessed-with-sex/

[Marlene]

Frost advisory for the state of Maine tonight!

[Jane]

Scott Walker just moved to Hampton. Maybe he can greet her.

Obama/Ossama = birds of a feather..

[NKonChrome]

and it will be appropriately cool in New London today for Obummer's CAGW BS.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Seems to me Typhoon Barry has wrought far more refugees, wars and instability over the last 6+ years than anything the IPCC frauds have cooked up for the next half century.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Your daily People's Cube via AT;
JV takes Ramadi, advances to quarterfinals

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

One more;

[Beasts of England]

King Putt had to reach across the globe for a severe storm anecdote. Someone should ask him how many years it's been since a Category 3+ hurricane has made landfall in the US?

And remember when ManBearPig said we'd need to add a Category 6? Good times.

[Eric in Boise]

Frost advisory for the state of Maine tonight!

Wait, isn't Hilligula going to NH?

[Dave (in MA)]

Ig,

Also by: Being Hillary Clinton.

[narciso]

contrast with the treatment regnerus received,

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=356828

much of both Zaphod and manbearpig's mutterings are like rejected scripts for the Sy Fy networm

[Marlene]

Jane,do you mean Scott Brown?

[NKonChrome]

Colubia U is truly pathetic: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/columbia-mattress-girl-looking-to-cash-in-on-art-project/article/2564764?custom_click=rss&utm_campaign=Weekly+Standard+Story+Box&utm_source=weeklystandard.com&utm_medium=referral

[NKonChrome]

Columbia U

[lyle]

From NK's link:

The interaction between he and Sulkowicz is then obscured by a column, but they don't appear to shake hands.

Pesky pronouns.

[Porchlight]

Hilligula

Love it.

[narciso]

frankly the genoese sailor would not appreciate being associated with this hack factory,

of course, the selective leak from Bin Laden's crib leaves out the important details, that Roggio's site among others have uncovered,

[glasater]

You know, Narciso, Shelley's Heart is so applicable for today's times - its almost as if Maccarry is prescient or something : )

So behind in comments and am days behind on threads rather than hours but I appreciate TC's comments regarding he and I being knocked out of the long distance drive for cake and ice cream on birthdays. Dang!

[lyle]

A thicket of lies:

Calling the science “indisputable,” the president proceeded to lament that “the fossil fuels we burn release carbon dioxide, which traps heat. And the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are now higher than they have been in 800,000 years. The planet is getting warmer. Fourteen of the 15 hottest years on record have been in the past 15 years. Last year was the planet’s warmest year ever recorded.”

“Our scientists at NASA just reported that some of the sea ice around Antarctica is breaking up even faster than expected. The world’s glaciers are melting, pouring new water into the ocean. Over the past century, the world sea level rose by about eight inches. That was in the last century; by the end of this century, it’s projected to rise another one to four feet,” he continued.

Does this retard even have any idea how expensive oceanfront real estate is and continues to be?

[Old Lurker]

Eric: "Frost advisory for the state of Maine tonight!

Wait, isn't Hilligula going to NH?"

Are you saying this would not be a good time for the New England Regional Johnson Measuring Contest?

[narciso]

it is, the first one of the books I read, was the last supper, which was a pretty straight forward review of the Christopher family, who were seemingly based on the Alsops with a touch of the Bundy clan, then I came across Better Angels, which
projected the kind of world we would see in this last decade,

[Old Lurker]

Lyle, my house is 18.21 above sea level at Mean High Tide. At 8" per century I think I have 27.3 centuries...well fewer if I want to keep some beach.

And anyway, is there not some dispute about his 8" number? (And no, I am not regressing to my 4:05 observation.)

[Marlene]

Howie Carr is on a roll with with the climate change stuff...Obama should have taken a bus from DC to New London,after all,it is such a pleasant drive up I-95 on the NJ Turnpike. Ha.

[Old Lurker]

18.2'

[Beasts of England]

'...projected to rise another one to four feet.'

Holy standard deviations, Weatherman!

[narciso]

of course Asimov's Mule in the Foundation tales, somewhat explains Zaphod,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/breaking-historic-palmyra-syria-falls-to-isis/

although the creatures from the Strain, are a more accurate metaphor for what is happening in the Levant,

[Old Lurker]

"Obama should have taken a bus from DC to New London"

I'd rather he had taken Amtrak last week.

Going to my room now.

[narciso]

just a local crime story, mrs. kliff no need to worry yourself

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/20/8630177/health-insurance-deductibles-rising

[Beasts of England]

Yes, there's plenty of debate about last century's sea level rise, OL. Devices, data recording, measurement location, et cetera.

[Thomas Collins]

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTM895F4IdlthCskfQsXNLO91jToo0TZtUCuX_gBPzjJMWpQr-nyX7Jkjl2

Bus? There must be bike lanes on 95 or 1.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Oh, and yeah - we're 13 days away from the seventh anniversary of the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow.

[lyle]

At 8" per century I think I have 27.3 centuries...well fewer if I want to keep some beach.

Heartless bastard. Don't you ever stop to think about the people 109.2 generations hence? Huh?

[Jane]

Yeah Scott Brown - I've got walker (and 1000 other things) on my mind. Sorry

[Thomas Collins]

Oh darn. I saw 18.2 and 18.21 and 8, and thought there was psi talk. Now I see that it's feet and inches above or below sea level talk.

[DrJ]

Since narc brought it up, why does everyone talk about health insurance deductibles instead of out-of-pocket maximum? You can a deductible of zero, and have the insurance cover only a small portion (10 or 20%, say) until the max is reached. There are all sorts of actuarial games that can be played with these. But you never hear about the max.

My policy is exception, as the deductible and max are the same.

[Old Lurker]

What? The deal was not in writing?

Fox "TEHRAN, Iran – Iran's supreme leader vowed Wednesday he will not allow international inspection of Iran's military sites or access to Iranian scientists under any nuclear agreement with world powers.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei told military commanders Wednesday that Iran will resist "coercion and excessive demands" from America and other world powers."

[NKonChrome]

And Yet-- the temp databases, even the corrupted land measured temps at GISS and EAU show no material temp rise for 16+ years. Tell us another wontcha Barry.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Ig,

Also by: Being Hillary Clinton.--

Yeah, I think that was the read between the lines message, Dave. : )

[Jane]

Tsarnaev Could Await Death In A Place That’s ‘Pretty Close’ To Hell

It really does sound pretty close to hell.

Good.

[Miss Marple]

They won't be satisfied until they vacuum up all the spare cash in the country. Now Chelse is targeting young readers (middle school-lower high school). This note from a friend of mine:

Chelsea Clinton has a book coming out. She has a deal with Penguin Young Readers for "It's Your World: Get Informed, Get Inspired & Get Going!" the publisher announced Wednesday. The book aims to "inform and inspire" young people to "change the world" and will cover a range of issues from poverty to gender equality, according to Penguin. Publication is scheduled for Sept. 15.

[Jeff Dobbs]

OL:
Going to my room now.

Are you now regressing to your 4:05 observation?

[NKonChrome]

Deal in writing? yeah, like a persian bazaar dealer's factory warranty.

[narciso]

that's kind of an old story, PLU grads like Khamenei were instructed on the gullibility of American policy makers, by contrast I refer to the Reagan/Gorbachev negotiations on the INF treaty, where Gorbachev kept pushing Reagan to renege on SDI, Reagan held firm of course, credentialed fools like Brand, seem to think that was our loss,

[Beasts of England]

I also like the 'highest level of CO2 in 800,000 years' reference. So you're saying that CO2 was at a higher level 900,000 years ago? Before SUVs?

Watch out! Those cherries they've picked have seeds!

[Old Lurker]

Good one Jeff.

:-)

Speaking of our Boston Bomber, are taxpayers going to have to keep his family in hotels until the deed is done or did we send them home?

Just wondering.

[narciso]

those Wooly mammoths had serious exhaust problems,
OL.at this point in a Python sketch, the anvil would drop, thus ending the argument,

[narciso]

Chelsea is proving herself to be a full Lannister, based on reports from disgruntled Foundation officials, frankly I didn't understand the hatred the likes of Zurawik had for her, when there are much more suitable targets for his wrath,

[Dave (in MA)]

[email protected]:05, Rodham would only have to take out enough to win.

[narciso]

and in local nazgul news,

http://freebeacon.com/politics/alan-grayson-tried-to-have-his-wife-arrested-for-using-his-credit-card/

[Dave (in MA)]

[email protected]:29, they got an extra weekend because a juror was sick, but they got shipped back to their hellholes early the following week.

[NKonChrome]

Milton Berle reference! I believe Liam Nieson is current champ.

[lyle]

Click on Jane's link and The Searchlight Pederast's mug (pre-beatdown) is plastered all over the site. I'd suggest Dingy Harry share a cell with the teenybopper bomber but that would exceed the worst violation of the Eighth ammendment of all time. I still think Harry would consider it...

[lyle]

[email protected]:05, Rodham would only have to take out enough to win.

LOL!!

[NKonChrome]

Hedge fund buying a client's property at that time. I asked the HF people what the Chelsea rep was. Answer, 'she's and effin' idiot' That covers it I guess.

[lyle]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/foreigners/2015/05/abu_bakr_al_baghdadi_sounds_a_lot_like_a_republican_presidential_candidate.html

One of Insty's commenters, David McCune:

Hitler - "Germany declares war on Poland" Chruchill - "Hitler has declared war on Poland" Saletan - "Churchill sounds just like Hitler"

[Jeff Dobbs]

Beasts:
I also like the 'highest level of CO2 in 800,000 years' reference.

Yup. When talking about "the hottest year on record" they go aaaaaallllll the way back to 1880. But on CO2 concentration, well, they use a number with fewer 8s and more 0s.

[narciso]

that was joy joy takedown of Saletan, yes Demolition Man works here as well,

[narciso]

Gellman was one of the reporters that Miller saw as most clueless, in the coverage of WMDs

http://centraljersey.com/articles/2015/05/20/the_princeton_packet/news/doc55458e119e668355205239.txt

his understanding of surveilance techniques were equally flawed,

[BB Key]

A friend was at the USCGA today for his grandson's graduation , I can't wait to hear a first hand account of 404's Eco Warrior speech .

NK, the Mrs. went to Conn College before it went coed.

She applied for early admission because her mom wanted her to go to Wellesley.

[NKonChrome]

since 1979 for the satellite record. +.2C (yes --point two centigrade) since late '79.

[lyle]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/418658/peta-demands-bar-change-its-name-because-ye-olde-fighting-cocks-offensive-chickens

Seems apropos here for some reason. Any thoughts, OL?

[NKonChrome]

Connecticut Coll is a fine lib arts school-- I urged my daughter to consider it. Should have stayed unisex IMO.

[narciso]

man you can't find good workers anywhere:

http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=71386

[NKonChrome]

Lyle-- OL's not here, Mrs. OL sent him to his room without supper for 4:05

[Thomas Collins]

Jeeeeezzzzzuuuuussssss, Jeff. You allow sea level, temperature, CO2 and johnson measurements on any thread, but psis are relegated to one thread?

[lyle]

Hope he at least gets to enjoy a cocktail anyway, NK. :0

[narciso]

when you see goodell's lips move, you know there is something wrong,

[Jack is Lighting!]

lyle,

That pub is my cousins pub where she and family go almost every night. I am sending her the NR article. They will be "cheesed" as they say in Harpenden.

I have been there for the Sunday roast and its pretty damn good.

[NKonChrome]

Of course OL was allowed to take his martini shaker and brandy glass up to his room.... after all Mrs. OL isn't cruel.

[Jeff Dobbs]

TC:
You allow sea level, temperature, CO2 and johnson measurements on any thread, but psis are relegated to one thread?

But yesterday you had a special dispensation to get away with psi on the current thread because it was your birthday.

Wait. I didn't say anything about that? Oh shoot. My bad.

[NKonChrome]

NO psi !

[narciso]

UBL shows the longterm damage of watching MSNBC,
serious 'dane brammage'*

from an old comedy club skit, that would be banned today, because subject of litigation,

[NKonChrome]

Greek proprietor at that that PETA pub..... mais bien sur!

[Publius]

JIB,

Of course you have.

[Jack is Lighting!]

Publius,

So what does that mean?

[Publius]

It means you have lived a very full life.

[narciso]

what I was referring to earlier:

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/05/nearly-all-of-osama-bin-ladens-files-should-be-released.php

[Jeff Dobbs]

NK:
Of course OL was allowed to take his martini shaker and brandy glass up to his room.... after all Mrs. OL isn't cruel.

Ah, I never got around to finishing my story from the meetup.

When I walked around back at OL's house, I immediately greeted OL and introduced the family around.

I had some flowers for Mrs OL, so I made my way over to introduce myself and give them to her.

I leaned in and quietly told her, "I have a printout of everything OL has ever said about you on the blog out in the car. How much do you think that would be worth to you?"

She laughed politely.

Later in the evening, I got OL off in a corner and put a hand on his elbow, "I have a printout of everything you have ever said about Mrs OL on JOM out in the car. How much do you think that would be worth to you for me not to show Mrs OL?"

At least I think I did. He had just brought me my third vodka on the rocks, maybe I imagined that one.

So anyway, figuring neither of them actually believed me, I later stuck the printouts in a fairly obscure place on the property.

It will be interesting to see who finds them and how long it takes.

[Jack is Lighting!]

NIce try. But the snark sticks. Fuck off.

[Publius]

LOL

[Jack is Lighting!]

Publius lives such a shallow life if his parents didn't have a basement he'd have no life at all.

[Publius]

You know nothing about my life, but I seem to know almost everything about your life.

Why is that? :)

[Jack is Lighting!]

Because you haven't had the aame diverse, vibratnt and wonderful life I have had. But one where you never left home and explored the world or even thought about leaving for something beyond the single traffic life in your life.

[Threadkiller]

I miss bgates.

[Jack is Lighting!]

...single traffic light....

[narciso]

and Khamenei's new penpal:

http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2015/05/19/doj-official-slavery-to-blame-for-riots-in-ferguson-and-baltimore/

[narciso]

interestingly according to Brand's bio, Gorbachev
tried the old' high horse, on Reagan, using arguments not unlike what Gupta is spouting, to deter US criticism of Soviet foreign and domestic policies,

[NKonChrome]

Mr. Dobbs-- I have no idea if you're serious or not. Two things: 'walked around back of the OL house' how long did that take 20? 25 minutes? approximately of course. second, is Mrs. OL as beautiful, charming and genteel as I imagine?