Politicizing The CIA

The NY Times headlines a topical pro-Hillary revelation in a new book by a former CIA official and buries a pro-Bush tidbit.

First, getting us ready for Hillary:

Ex-C.I.A. Official Rebuts Republican Claims on Benghazi Attack in ‘The Great War of Our Time’

By David Sanger

WASHINGTON — The former deputy director of the C.I.A. asserts in a forthcoming book that Republicans, in their eagerness to politicize the killing of the American ambassador to Libya, repeatedly distorted the agency’s analysis of events. But he also argues that the C.I.A. should get out of the business of providing “talking points” for administration officials in national security events that quickly become partisan, as happened after the Benghazi attack in 2012.

The official, Michael J. Morell, dismisses the allegation that the United States military and C.I.A. officers “were ordered to stand down and not come to the rescue of their comrades,” and he says there is “no evidence” to support the charge that “there was a conspiracy between C.I.A. and the White House to spin the Benghazi story in a way that would protect the political interests of the president and Secretary Clinton,” referring to the secretary of state at the time, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

But he also concludes that the White House itself embellished some of the talking points provided by the Central Intelligence Agency and had blocked him from sending an internal study of agency conclusions to Congress.

Yeah, whatever - IMHO the Republicans should move past Benghazi and focus on the broader question of Hillary's role in the bizarre "plan" to topple Qadaffi with no credible plan to replace him.

And speaking of what might be thought of as a lesson of Iraq (Wasn't winning the war with no plan to win the peace Bush's mistake?) the Times has this Iraq flashback:

Mr. Morell is gentle about most of the politicians he dealt with — he expresses admiration for both Mr. Bush and Mr. Obama, though he accuses former Vice President Dick Cheney of deliberately implying a connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq that the C.I.A. had concluded probably did not exist. But when it comes to the events leading up to the Bush administration’s decision to go to war in Iraq, he is critical of his own agency.

Mr. Morell concludes that the Bush White House did not have to twist intelligence on Saddam Hussein’s alleged effort to rekindle the country’s work on weapons of mass destruction.

“The view that hard-liners in the Bush administration forced the intelligence community into its position on W.M.D. is just flat wrong,” he writes. “No one pushed. The analysts were already there and they had been there for years, long before Bush came to office.”

 

Comments

[DebinNC]

I'm so sorry, Janet.

[Dublindave]

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[henry]

Sad news Janet.

[Rick Ballard]

NK,

I'd say AG Bojangles application of JustUS in Baltimore has everything to do with 'the law' today, just like the Wisconsin vendetta. An argument that the sophistry employed is paper thin and will be torn apart 'later' by application of 'real law' is tenable but 'the law' as determined by five monkeys in robes who are currently working out the proper legal blessing for the holy union of Bob and Tony before going to work on the legal blessing for the holy union of Fred and Fido is so far down the slippery slope that the AG Bojangles JustUs decision may well be the template for the future.

Seeking the chaste in the whorehouse of the Temple of Justice is becoming increasingly difficult.

[henry]

Hmmm. from our Chitown friend, IRS scandal tied to White House. Classmate and critic of Obama finally got copies of his IRS files.

[Dublindave]

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[Marlene]

Thanks for posting that info,clarice. Janet is an angel.

[Dublindave]

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[NKonChrome]

drunken dave is not giving Soros his $5 worth of trolling today

[NKonChrome]

condolences to Janet and the family. She is a selfless woman.

[Dublindave]

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[lyle]

Get professional help, duda.

[rse]

Thanks clarice for telling us.

Janet, you truly are a saint. So sorry for your loss. You do so much unselfishly for so many.

Also if you had to pick up a teenager at GU on a Friday in June late morning and then drive them on up the interstate into PA, where would you suggest staying Thursday night?

[Beasts of England]

Interesting banking story. My Mom gave me a check today because she bought my brother a new John Deere lawn tractor - she's big on fairness - and I have future democrat voters who cut my grass.

Anyhoo, I run by her bank to cash it. They can't. They don't have that much cash on hand. This is the main branch of PNC bank. She said the other branches didn't have it either. $5,000. She said that between last Friday and today customers had been withdrawing unusually large quantities of cash. How bizarre is that crap.

[maryrose]

Janet
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family
You are a kind generous daughter in law

[sbw]

Janet, I admire what you have done for your family and for us. My condolences on your loss.

[maryrose]

rse
Camp Hill Pennsylvania is Avery niceite town near Lancaster

[maryrose]

Beasts
Very interesting
It sounds like a run on the banks or reaction to recent robberies

[rse]

Beast-ZH has been running stories during that time period on the coming cashless economy and how manipulative it is.

I get a check as does my sister each year that represents the premium my mom pays to make sure bro has life insurance. Get that fairness thing. Comes up usually after a sibling remembers a lack of it.

[maryrose]

DNC
Will have 4 debates

[rse]

maryrose-I will be coming from the south. Only question is do I spend Thursday in dc or Richmond or Charlottesville or the like.

I like the Lancaster area but am headed to Frick country to the west.

[Buckeye]

Beasts

Don't be surprised if your lawn crew already votes.

The withdraws were to place bets and cover losses on the fight:)

[Beasts of England]

And now I'm at my bank and they don't have the cash either. The teller was not surprised when I shared the story. Really interesting.

[DrJ]

rse, can you claim and prove that you are in DC on government business? If you can, an off-beat choice is the FDIC Seidman center in Arlington. It is comfortable, reasonably priced (for the DC area), each room has a kitchen, is next door to a grocery store, and there's parking. It also is close to the Metro, but I suspect you won't need that.

[Buckeye]

Beasts

Lets see. 50 benjamins would buy a case of that Maya that pairs so well with the lambchops (both 2 and 4 legged types).

So I am guessing your Muslim wine merchant prefers cash?

[Marlene]

rse,I agree,if you can get into DC on Thursday,you will avoid Friday morning traffic. DC traffic is miserable all the time. We drove thru MD on 301 driving home from FL on a Saturday to stay with the daughter. The traffic was horrible. I was having a meltdown. :) Of course,you're used to city traffic,so you can handle the challenge.

[Porchlight]

Thanks, DebinNC - I hadn't thought of the possibility that it was someone looking for a pet. They may be driving by during the day too but we don't notice them then.

[Beasts of England]

@ Buckeye: after all the lunatic rants today, I'm gonna donate it to Pamela Geller's group! lol

It was only a spur of the moment decision to cash it, as her bank was on my way home from her house and mine wasn't. That incident certainly got my curiosity up, so I then tried and failed at my bank.

I've cashed six-figure checks before and understood that they'd need a few days to bring in the money, but five grand? Nuts.

No plans for the cash money, but a wine splurge sounds really interesting...

[NKonChrome]

rse-- take a hotel room in Rosslyn for Thursday night. And take a cab back to your parked car from GU; you don't want to try to navigate a pick up at GU and then head out of town. OL is the local expert on GU pick ups, he'll be the best source of info.

[NKonChrome]

OL's GU pick ups were his own children of course... not anything creepy. But we all knew that.

[matt]

Banks are not holding much cash at all anymore. I had a transaction several months ago that required $10,000+ in cash (buying an old car). They had to have it delivered the next morning.

In addition, a lot of the banks are now trying to do away with cash entirely. All the better to control the proles when the time comes.

[lyle]

All the better to control the proles when the time comes.

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

[Buckeye]

matt

Had same experience getting large amount of cash from the bank. Had to wait a day.

Banker said it was so rare that they didn't make a point of keeping much cash on hand. Most cash was incoming, night drops by bar owners and the like. Normal practice was to have daily mid morning Brinks pickup.

He also warned me that if the deal fell through, I should expect a hassle if I redeposited, drug dealer profile.

This was 15 years ago, so alot may have changed.

[lyle]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/05/05/reid-throws-brakes-on-obama-trade-push/

Quite the conundrum: which loser to root for...

[clarice]

rse, A client of my husband's owns this hotel which is a short walk to GU, It has a new chef, Frank Ruta who I consider the best chef in town:http://www.capellahotels.com/washingtondc/georgetown/?gclid=CjwKEAjw1KGqBRC55bru-sa7zCcSJAAxsBf5QL30c2WDGhuKtqwgcenBBMvQfZENUsqZuz8uA7qrnxoCmEbw_wcB

[lyle]

http://thehill.com/briefingroom-blogroll/241022-why-isnt-huckabee-getting-more-respect

DoT bait, right there, people.

[clarice]

There are other nice hotels in walking distance of GU as well..if you google hotels near GU they'll turn up, Georgetown is a nice area to walk around. You may be able to negotiate a better than listed price. Hotels in DC generally are fully booked during the week, but not so over the weekend and rack rates are not unheard of.

[Beasts of England]

I don't know - a cashless society sounds good to me. What could possibly go wrong?

[Porchlight]

Seems like bank employees and customers would feel a lot safer on a day-to-day basis not having much cash in the place. But it is a pain when you need it.

[rse]

clarice-I have to admit I have not spent much time in G'town since clydes and the tombs were hangout places in college.

I think Red is coming with me. Diva starts a summer program the next day and won a scholarship for this congressional workshop. They have decided to send me the flight credit part of the scholarship so that she can do a multicity and do the return leg in August.

I only have to do one long driving trip.

[lyle]

http://freebeacon.com/blog/the-2016-presidential-race-explained-in-4-charts/

This is great. Esp. number four.

[Jack is Back!]

lyle,

That chart is going to get even more interesting when they put in Huckabee, Walker, Bush, Kaaich, Bolton and Christie. 5 white guys to dilute the pool and none of them speak Spanish.

Jeb Bush just made a YouTube video in Spanish congratulating all his Mexican friends in Spanish for Cinco de Mayo. He is really gunning for the illegal vote.

[lyle]

It will get whiter and maler, JiB. As the twits in the MFM will endlessly point out.

[Beasts of England]

Condolences and prayers for you and your family, Janet.

[DebinNC]

Kasich-Bolton-Christie? I don't see any of them making a blip. Huckabee has a following due to his tv show. Jeb, Walker, and Rubio will last through the primaries. Rick Perry is an enigma to me.

[Jessie Ward]

I heard that Dana Gilbert Ward is still under investigation for diddling a male student.

[Jack is Back!]

Janet,

Sent you an email.

BTW. Rush was enfuego earlier when I went to get the car washed. He was on a roll about the story in the WaPo about how all these new residential high-rises for billionaires in NYC are depriving the middle class below of sunlight and putting them in the shadows. Just like the illegals.

Then he went to the story of the twit Oxford don who is saying that reading bedtime stories to your kids at night gives them an unfair advantage over kids who don't have parents who can read to them.

Both only show how depraved the leftists mind is as we see here everyday from our trolls. They really do want to charge for light and air as long as its free for them.

[lyle]

http://nypost.com/2015/04/29/40-years-after-saigons-fall-us-still-hasnt-learned-lessons-of-vietnam/

Lipsky notes the actions of a certain treasonous poltroon in the form of Jawn Effin Kerry back then. Powerline makes this observation:

In his New York Post column, Seth Lipsky takes up the subject of John Kerry then and now. Seth’s comparison packs a wallop. As Kerry and Obama finalize the arrangement facilitating the acquisition of nuclear weapons by the preeminent enemy of the United States — an enemy that already accounts for one of our protracted national humiliations — we should take the time to compare and contrast great moments in the humiliation of the United States.

[Beasts of England]

Leave it to libtards to enable destroyed families and then bitch about those that survive being advantaged. Two parent privilege? Isn't that the whole idea of a family? Ugh.

[lyle]

http://thefederalist.com/2015/05/05/media-say-obama-is-a-bookworm-are-they-sure/

Does anyone who isn't a drooling Obama groupie actually believe that the cat has ever read anything profound in his entire life? He has the attention span of a gnat. His whole freaking life is one made-up scam.

As if I couldn't loath the press any more than I do.

[Gus]

There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream "Oppression!"
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.
There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream "Oppression!"
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.

[Gus]

That RUSH song cracks me up. I don't think they realized that they were describing a LIBTARD mindset when they wrote it.

Poor MAPLES don't have as much light as the OAKS, so they form a union, and end up being hacked to pieces for furniture.

Misery is equality!!!

[jimmyk]

Condolences to you and your family, Janet.

I am sure all the care and concern you showed your father-in-law made a huge difference both to him and the rest of your family.

[Buckeye]

JiB

My daughter is starting a new job next week.

She will meet with the founder at HQ on Amelia Island and spend better part of the week there.

Any restaurant recommendations?

[NKonChrome]

Lipsky in the NY Post-- I agree with him about the Rory Kennedy documentary about the Saigon evac; it was very well done, and politically fair. Hard to believe RFK's kid did that, considering what a scumbag RFK Jr is.

[Miss Marple]

Janet,

My condolences and prayers for your family. What you did for your father-in-law was very generous.

[Jack is Back!]

Buckeye,

Fernadina Beach is about 100 miles north of me. Only been there a couple of times. Just looked in my travel folder and found the place we ate - Bistro Ciao. Very good. Amelia Island is more low-country than Florida but nice and she'll emjoy it since its still close enough to JAX and their beaches for a visit.

[Buckeye]

Thanks Jack

[Ben]

Hard to believe RFK fell for the McCarthy pogrom as stooge #2 with Cohen's #1 and Chief scumbag. Who can rid us of false-flag leftists.

[Ben]

Er pardon the shibboleth Cohn

[maryrose]

NK I saw the documentary and found it to be very well done
It was interesting to see the sights in Saigon and the Air Force Base where my brother was stationed

[pagar]

Janet,
Our condolences and prayers for you and your family.

[Ben]

BREAKING

ISIS claims responsibility for the chicago fire and extinction of dinosaurs.

[Maya Ward]

I'm told he diddled his daughter too.

[Maya Ward]

Daddy why did you do those evil things to me?

[Ben]

BREAKING

Texas has everything arabs need; featureless topography, sparse water and undereducated population.

[Ben]

'Diddled'? Gus the potty-mouth is afraid of words like ass-rape.

It reminds him of prison.

[Maya Ward]

Ben are you Dana Gilbert Ward child rapist??

[Threadkiller]

Classmate and critic of Obama finally got copies of his IRS files.

More on the classmate aspect:

Barack Obama: The Ghost of Columbia University
Jun. 4, 2013 1:31pm

I just returned from New York, where I attended my 30th Columbia University reunion. I celebrated with my esteemed classmates. Everyone except Barack Obama. As usual- he wasn’t there. Not even a video greeting. Not a personalized letter to his classmates. Nothing. But worse, no one at our 30th reunion ever met him. The President of the United States is the ghost of Columbia University.

I’m certainly no “Johnny come lately.” For five years now (since 2007 when it became clear Barack Obama was running for President), I’ve been quoted in the media as saying that no one I’ve ever met at Columbia can remember ever meeting, or even seeing, our college classmate Barack Obama. Don’t you think the media should be asking questions? Isn’t this a very strange story?

http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/barack-obama-the-ghost-of-columbia-university/
And:
http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/ghost-of-columbia-part-ii-legendary-columbia-professor-never-heard-of-obama/

[daddy]

For those interested in the Election for Mayor in Anchorage today, here's a bit of inside baseball to catch up with on the current stink. On eve of Election Day, recording of provocative radio interview released

Until announcing his run for Mayor, Berkowitz, (The Democrat) hosted a morning Talk Show with a feisty Republican co-host named Bernadette Wilson. In October in a conversation about Gay marriage, Bernadette (anti-Gay Marriage) asked Berkowitz (pro- Gay Marriage) if he was in favor of a father marrying his son and Berkowitz said "Yes." The first short tape in the link is the audio of that exchange and it is quite clear.

Recently the head preacher of our big Baptist Church, Jerry Prevo, mentioned Berkowitz's stated approval of Father and Son's marrying (incest) in a Sunday Sermon. That got attention.

Next Amy Dembowski (the Repub Candidate) was asked by the Media about Berkowitz's stated support of Father and Son marriage. She stated she heard the exchange on the radio, and that the media should go ask Berkowitz about it.

Berkowitz was asked about it, and he denied saying it.

When his former co-host, Bernadette, was asked if he said it she said he said it.

Andrew Halcro, the bitter, slimy RINO then asked his supporters to vote for Berkowitz, saying he thinks this is dirty politics somehow organized by Amy Dembowski, the Republican candidate who beat Halcro in the Mayoral Primary Election.

Then Bernadette released the audio of their radio show, proving that Berkowitz said he supported a Father being allowed to marry a son. That caused Berkowitz to come out and say yes he said it, but he didn't really mean it because it was a hypothetical conversation.

Finally it was picked up and played on our Local TV news, (the second video in my link) and that's where we stand on that.

I think both recordings are worth giving a listen to if you wish to catch up.

The Teachers Union, and the Police and the Firefighter's Unions and the other City Employee Unions have all come out for Berkowitz. Former Anchorage Mayor Mark Begich gave them all amazingly good contracts, and gave them all such long term contracts (against previous practices) that current outgoing Mayor Dan Sullivan (Conservative) never had a chance to even do any new contracts. Begich's maneuvers neutered his ability to do contracts at all. Naturally the Unions know where their bread is buttered, so they will vote and will vote for Berkowitz.

Dembowski's husband BTW is an Anchorage Firefighter, but my guess is that without some other reason to come to the polls, the Union votes will put Berkowitz over the top today. That's my take.

[Maya Ward]

It's pretty sad, when a "man" is known to have made sexual advances on his daughter, and still trolls blogs under the name Ben.
We all know who "Ben" is. Yet the fired and disgraced Pitzer man, doesn't even defend his families honor. What kind of man would do that? Dana Gilbert Ward would.
It's pathological. Dana Gilbert Ward cannot stop his sick behavior.

[Ben]

Daddy; are you going to tolerate Gus and his accusation?

[NKonChrome]

TK-- Occam's Razor tells me that Obummer was never admitted to Columbia College, rather he enrolled in some kind of phony baloney foreign student program at Columbia U, and he earned 'certificate' rather than a bachelor's degree. I can't prove that until the transcripts are revealed but it is consistent with no one remembering him at Columbia (except a NYT reporter roommate who refuses to give any details, and Obummer's author's bio claiming he a citizen of Kenya by birth. He's been bullshitting his whole life.

[Maya Ward]

Oh dear Dana, seems Gus has gotten under your skin?? Gus hasn't accused you of anything. You're Ben. Right? Btw you pathetic pussy. I was told you raped your daughter, I mean Dana Gilbert Wards' daughter by Harry Reid.
Dana, you're not very smart, and I am not Gus.
You can continue, I am enjoying your humiliation. Naughty boy.

[Ben]

'Cashless society....what could go wrong..?'

Gold and silver illegal for private ownership?

Huzzah.

[Ben]

Gus or Jib the septuagenarian toddler makes no difference.

[jimmyk]

Just a quick epilogue regarding my daughter's health: She got the 'all clear' today after spending the night at Columbia Childrens'. She'd had no incidents since the one two months ago, but perhaps fortuitously, shortly after they drew blood last night she passed out while hooked up to the EEG and heart monitors. So in the end, despite some confusion today (getting passed between neurologists and cardiologists), it was clear that this was just a benign vasovagal syncope, in this case triggered by the sight of her blood. I kidded her about being a wimp, and her mom ("Of all the things she had to inherit from you..."), but she gets a clean bill of health, sandwiched in between her 14th birthday last week and heading off to Israel on Sunday with her 8th grade class.

[Porchlight]

Hooray, jimmyk! Scary times for you, but that sounds like about the best outcome you could hope for.

[daddy]

Cavuto is talking to Trump.

Trump is on with Cavuto saying that he (Trump) is a bigger believer in free speech than Pamela Gellar. Horseshit. Trump criticizing Gellar. Trump says she is doing this for her own purposes and that she is doing this to make money.

I think she obviously knows that she has made herself a target for millions of crazed Muslims, so I doubt she is doing this to make money, since if you have a target on your head money doesn't count for a whole lot.

Trump is full of Shit. For a second time he says that he is a bigger champion of Free Speech than Gellar.

[Miss Marple]

daddy,

His children seem to be decent, hard-working people. I attribute this to their mother, who was an Olympic ski champion for Czechoslovakia, I think.

I bet listening to him at the Thanksgiving table is a real pain.

[Jane]

That's great Jimmy! I'm thrilled for you.

[Buckeye]

jimmyk

Encourage her to stay hydrated, it should help avoid future incidents.

[Maya Ward]

Exactly Ben. We know who you are and we know you are mentally ill. Continue. I'm sure Maya has gotten some counseling by now.
Please continue Ben. It's quite satisfying beating you like a drum. Why not just post under "Fired Pitzer Pussy". That is who you actually are. Say hey to your family for me!!

[Threadkiller]

I had the tv on mute, Daddy, thanks for the report. The pictures of Gellar gave away the direction of the interview.

[jimmyk]

Buckeye, we've been trying to do that, but try telling a 14-year-old to do anything. (Actually, she sort of listens.)

[Threadkiller]

Good to hear, Jimmy.

[lyle]

From BOTW:

Asked if the Clinton Foundation’s decision to abjure most contributions from foreign governments implied an acknowledgment that taking such money in the first place was a mistake, he replied: “Absolutely not.” Instead, “it’s an acknowledgment that we’re going to come as close as we can during her presidential campaign to following the rules we followed when she became secretary of state.”

Good Lord. Let's put these grifters back in the WH, okay?

[daddy]

Hilarious article on Clinton finances!

I like the part at the end where he says they had the lowest net worth (going into the White House) since Harry Truman.

Miss Marple,

The obvious point to follow that one is Which former President has the greatest Net Worth after leaving the White House?

The answer is Clinton by a long shot. He has more than both Bushes combined, and if you add in Reagan's net worth to the 2 Bushes, then Clinton has about the same net worth as their total combined net worth.

Yet he needs 500K a speech to pay the Bills. Right.

[Buckeye]

jimmyk

I know what you mean!

But we and our kids survived it. It wasn't until they were north of 25 that they started paying any attention.

[Threadkiller]

It doesn't seem too different from Ted Cruz abjuring his allegiance to another sovereign nation(Canada, he is silent on his Cuban ties) with his dog and pony show bra burning festival.

When will Rubio get in on the non-acknowledgment acknowledgment?

[Porchlight]

Buckeye,

A specialty in Fernandina Beach is shrimp gravy, as the old timers call it. I think it is also featured as shrimp and grits, but that to me sounds Georgia or South Carolina.

Here's a recipe for the real thing: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1346&dat=19740109&id=dhpXAAAAIBAJ&sjid=dPoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3464,2104635&hl=en

[NKonChrome]

JimmyK-- congrats on the great news. Huzzah.

[lyle]

IBD:

Finally, a warning for any Wisconsin governor who didn't finish his studies at Marquette University. Walker may want to take those last few credits online in coming months. Because nearly two-thirds of voters say they'd have reservations supporting someone as commander-in-chief with no college degree.

I'd take him over an over-credentialled, affirmative-action, proto-communist cypher any day.

[Jack is Back!]

Porch,

In some parts of the south like the low-country, Shrimp and Grits is breakfast food. And you "swamp" up the gravy with a biscuit:)

jimmyk,

Great news for the daughter. Our kids keep us testing our nerves and hair tint, don't they? Does her 8th grade need a trip chaperone? One of my favorite destinations.

BTW, I am not the Ben/Dana Ward Gilbert expose writer but I think I do know who it is and that person knows more about this creep than anyone except the local police and DA.

[Jim Miller]

daddy - The Puffington Host (as Taranto likes to call them) has an article on the incest issue, that seems relatively fair to me.

OTOH, Daily Kos is really mad about it.

(FWIW, the question seems like an entirely fair hypothetical to me. There isn't even a danger of birth defects in that particular pairing.)

[Beasts of England]

@jimmyk: Very good news!

@lyle: I think the two-thirds figure is projection. Kinda like when people are polled about gay marriage: they want to give the putative prevailing wind answer. Anyone who would vote for a dem because Walker didn't finish his degree was never considering him at all.

[Ben]

'Mentally ill' There's the Gus descrptor. Add liar to your other stellar qualities. And people actually address you with muted respect? Their bad.

[Porchlight]

JiB, I love love love shrimp and grits in all forms. But the Fernandina version is just a bit less dry and more sauce-like than the versions up north. Gravy, YUM.

"Swamp" sounds like the Texas "tump." "Tump" is a combination of "tip" and "dump." As in "y'all better quit horsing around or you will tump over that cooler of Lone Star."

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--nearly two-thirds of voters say they'd have reservations supporting someone as commander-in-chief with no college degree--

Yeah, how could any drop out equal the last four college boys?

[Ben]

Expose' writer....lol

Is that what you call Gus Gusman? Is he your mentor JIB?

Heros have been dumbed down for seniors of late.