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May 29, 2015

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anonamom

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Jeff Dobbs

Hastert should have started a charity and hired this person on at a Blumenthalian pay level.

narciso

clearly he's trustworthy, or he could have started a hedge fund like Don Corzione, you don't let the money sit like that,

Appalled

I don't think speculation of a Danny Hastert love child is going to drive this type of behavior. (This is the sort of thing that creates visuals that drives the average tabloid reader to page 3 of the UK Sun.) I would, if forced to speculate, there is something behind this that Hastert reasonably feared would destroy future moneymaking activities. Good guessers should look at Hastert's clients to determine if past consensual sexual bad behavior would cause that. (I would guess not.) We could be talking garden variety corruption back in his Speaker days.

narciso

a hook for the new season of the Good Wife,

narciso

not to mention, Wolf Hall, which I won't further elaborate on,

Rick Ballard

The purpose of the indictment is to move attention away from Red Witch's graft as SoS.

Next up: "Everybody lies about graft!" or "I did not peddle influence with those men, not once!"

Ben

It isn't a crime to feather your lobbyist nest with blood money purloined from the public trust so why would the FBI take offense at a wealthy though corrupt closet homosexual trying to save his own squeaky clean reputation?

The Infamous Ignatz

So, is it a crime to conceal taking out money to make payments that are not related to criminal behavior?

Extraneus

Live boy is my guess.

Extraneus

Football coach. Gym teacher.

narciso

isn't extortion, a crime, I think I read it somewhere,

Buckeye

Iggy

Have fun with the new pup.

Be sure to hide your favorite shoes!

Dublindave

Mmmmmm,what did Denny 'baby-girl' Hastert do while he worked as the coach of an all male team that would cause an accuser to extract 3.5 mllion dollars out of him in return for accusers silence?????

It's a tough one.

My guess is Baby-girl's gonna spend the rest of his life wearing nylons in prison.

Dublindave

Sorry......wrestling team...

clarice

TM and Jeff took the thoughts outta my head.

The Infamous Ignatz

--Be sure to hide your favorite shoes!--

Heh. Just had to put my LLBeans on because he found the little assist tag on the back.

Jeff Dobbs

Oh, Instalanche. And he included my comment.

Ben

"Wrestling coach" in the Greek way is not a pleasant image.

Appalled

Rick:

If that was the Justice Department's aim -- that's a problem, because almost any crime is a reminder of what the Clintons have gotten away with.

If it is about consensual sex with young people (over the age of consent) -- well, there are Bill's adventures with Monica.

If it's about consensual sex with young male people (over the age of consent) -- well, Let's whisper some more about Huma, and why would the Justice Department be getting involved about sex.

If it is ambiguous corruption -- you can compare almost any act of bribery to something that's gone on with the Clinton foundation.

So, if this is supposed to be distraction -- I think Justice has given Hillary more problems through the magic of analogy.

narciso

of course, it's rationalizer not explainer:

http://twitchy.com/2015/05/28/vox-tackles-bernie-sanders-1972-rape-fantasy-one-of-many-highlights-of-a-profile-of-his-early-years/

sbw

Ext, I loved the old joke about the charge being reduced to a traffic violation -- following too closely behind.

clarice

If it was to support a child he hadn't known about, why would it be extortion,

Tom Maguire
Live boy is my guess.

That would be extortion, so where is the indictment? And why is Hastert paying *compensation* for the guys gayness? [Same questions for those who say this is garden variety corruption.] What, medical bills all these years later?

Hmm, unless this is analogous to a priest/altar boy thing and a former student is traumatized all these years later.

OK, definitely maybe, but I'm not changing my bet.

henry

Clarice, a benign explanation for the payments would have satisfied the FBI (although maybe not the IRS). Very odd behavior, except the guy is a pol from IL.

Janet

In 2010, during meetings between Mr. Hastert and the unnamed individual, the two discussed “past misconduct” by Mr. Hastert against the person, according to the indictment.

How did the United States attorney for the Northern District of Illinois know about this? Was this a sting operation after monitoring the withdrawals from his own accounts?

Tom Maguire
The purpose of the indictment is to move attention away from Red Witch's graft as SoS.

To which Appalled replies, doesn't this call attention to Hillary?

So let's get darker - this was a warning that Obama can indict ANYONE, so prominent Republicans need to keep their own mouths shut or start answering questions from the FBI about nothing.

Who will be left to cast the first stone?

I don't think Obama love Hillary, but she will be a better guardian of his "legacy" than any Evil Rep.

narciso

like I say, pikers,

://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/05/29/if-you-want-bill-clinton-to-show-up-at-your-charity-a-500000-donation-to-the-foundation-helps/

surbuban gal

OFFTOPIC: sorry, been working on an assignment and have just been catching up (as a lurker). But for the beer lovers, if you are going to Paris, or if Daddy wants a change:

http://bonjourparis.com/food-and-drink/top-spots-to-buy-or-drink-craft-beer-in-paris/

narciso

sorry about that:

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/05/29/if-you-want-bill-clinton-to-show-up-at-your-charity-a-500000-donation-to-the-foundation-helps/

Extraneus
Extortion (also called shakedown, outwrestling, and exaction) is a criminal offense of obtaining money, property, or services from a person, entity, or institution, through coercion.

What if there were no coercion?

"Coach, I think I should tell somebody about this."

"Would you keep quiet for $3.5M?"

"Well, ok."

Jeff Dobbs

TM:
I don't think Obama love Hillary, but she will be a better guardian of his "legacy" than any Evil Rep.

Competing tensions:

1) Giving Hillary the WH would create a "legacy" that diminishes Obama to the extent that everyone would be talking about the "Clinton third term", rather than Hillary serving "Obama's third term". 50 years from now, who knows - first black president would win out I guess (but perhaps not if Chelsea wins in 2032!!!)

2) However, if Hillary is the nominee, having her elected will give Obama something that even beloved Bill couldn't accomplish - 3 consecutive Democratic terms. A rarity in modern day presidential history.

Obama's ideal would be to have Hillary fail before the nomination - and getting whoever replaces her elected.

Come on Loretta, lynch Hillary.

clarice

henry, perhaps he didn't want the FBI to know. It's not as if they are apolitical. Or perhaps he was protecting her.

James D.

Given the track record of the DoJ over the past 6+ years, I'm just assuming that Hastert is being selectively prosecuted entirely for partisan political reasons to benefit the Obama administration in some way.

There is no reason to assume good faith or honesty on the part of anyone working for the Department of Justice at this point.

Jim Miller

Well, old Strom Thurmond made payments for years for his little indiscretion, so it isn't as if there aren't precedents. (It's hard to tell, but there seems to have been some real affection between Thrumond and his daughter. too.)

Here's a detail from Wikipedia about that Thurmond daughter that I had missed, or forgotten:

"[Essie Mae] Washington-Williams later joined the Daughters of the American Revolution and the United Daughters of the Confederacy, as she was eligible through her Thurmond ancestry. Thurmond was a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a similar group for men.[37] She encouraged other African Americans to learn their ancestry and join the lineage associations, to promote a wider sense of American history, including its long history of interracial families."

Hastert has been married since 1973. He and his wife, Jean, have two children. I can imagine him not wanting to tell the three of them about a child he fathered, possibly while he was already married to Jean.

narciso

that's the most reasonable assumption, Hastert was the one who defended Jefferson on parliamentary privilege or some such rot, wasn't he,

Threadkiller

I think the timing is relevant to the Patriot Act debates (not the psi patriots).

Obama clips a prominent republican's wings using the "you can't withdraw your own money" legislation. Now all the GOPers will jump on the Rand Wagon and demand mucho reformos to the act.

When completed, Obama's gun running drug lord friends and all his Muslim Brothers can get back to banking as it should be. Clandestine.

narciso

well I was close,


http://www.foxnews.com/story/2006/05/24/hastert-demands-fbi-return-items-from-raid-rep-jefferson-office.html

they were insistent he was much better than Newt, when he did a fine impersonation of the captain of the Concordia,

Robert

Weren't there rumors during his time as Speaker that he was involved in some shady land deals in Illinois? I thought this was one the reasons he retired from Congress.

Cygnus

My guess is a homosexual relationship that started when the other person was of age, otherwise the FBI, the media and the D's would have pounced on the child molestation angle ; payments by Hastert would have negated the statue of limitations due to the ongoing criminal conspiracy to cover up the original sin.

Jane

This is probably the wrong thing to say, but that's a hell of a lot of money for child support.

Appalled

TM:

If this is blackmail for nasty things long ago, this could have been structured as an out of court settlement of contemplated litigation, where nobody admits liability for anything.

The possibility for a real crime in the back of all this is there. I despair of ever really hearing about it, though.

The real crime is that our elites have not dispatched Hillary to a well-paid sinecure someplace, and spared us her grifting ways. There is no way a party that is not, in some deep way corrupt, allowed her to become presumptive nominee.

Marlene

This my guess...if he fathered a child between 1965 and 1981,that child would be an adult now. Maybe Hastert and the mother of the child had an agreement to keep quiet all these years,but if the adult child found out that Hastert is his/her father, then maybe that is the person doing the blackmailing.

Ig,have fun with the puppy! How goes the housetraining?

Jeff Dobbs

Mr. Hastert had so far paid $1.7 million to the person

Have we ruled out Hastert paying for 6-7 Clinton speeches?

glasater

I can imagine him not wanting to tell the three of them about a child he fathered, possibly while he was already married to Jean

I'll bet 'Jean' knows the so-called transgression(s) by now.

Extraneus

What a surprise.

Rasmussen: Most Democrats Think Illegal Immigrants Should Vote

The Infamous Ignatz

--How goes the housetraining?--

Well, I've only got about twelve hours under my belt and most of that I was trying to sleep so no progress to report except the little chump is a poop machine.
It's complicated by the fact I can't toss him outside when I catch him in the act because he hasn't had his last parvo shot yet.
Presently rigging up the back deck to be safe [he fits through the railing].

narciso

they did allow her a sinecure, that's why the Spectre's of the world, or legion of Doom, see her as reliable,

Extraneus

Interactive charts:

Homicides and shootings spike while arrests decline in Baltimore City

Stephanie

rse, I guess it is the Stearman I'm wanting to go up in. They flyer just calls it a biplane, but the pic is of a yellow biplane.

Extraneus

Cuba removed from US terror sponsor list

Jim Miller

glasater - You are almost certainly right, but she may not have known before. The cash payments suggest that he was trying to hide where the money was going from someone.

Jane - Agreed. But the amount is possible if you assume some is back payments from when he had less money, some is hush money, and some went to pay for expensive therapy, or a college education, or whatever.

(I don't recall what NBA stars typically pay for their extra kids, 50K a year?)

Extraneus

Man with 1st name 'God' settles with credit rating agency

NEW YORK (AP) -- A New York City man whose first name is God has settled a lawsuit with a credit reporting agency that had refused to recognize his name as legitimate.

Under the agreement reached in Brooklyn federal court this week, Equifax will enter God Gazarov's name into its database. The terms of the settlement were not disclosed.

Gazarov now has a robust 820 credit score.

henry

Jim, even if that is where & why the cash went out, there is a small matter of IRS & gift taxes. No more than $12,500/year* per indiscretion. Which suggests someone is getting the Rangel version of the tax code applied to them.

* this number changes year to year and would not apply to college tuition.

Miss Marple

I vote for the illegitimate child and/or thier spouse, who hearing about the relationship wanted money.

On a more positive note, here is the article about Carly Fiorina's interview with Andrea Mitchell, demonstrating her complete mastery of the issues and her really swell way of dealing with the press. Transcript is at bottom of article:

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2015/05/27/carly-fiorina-runs-circles-around-andrea-mitchell-blasts-hillary

narciso

so, who's surprised by this, no one:

http://clashdaily.com/2015/05/hey-dumb-churches-obama-now-demanding-that-religious-grant-recipients-hire-gays/

Eric Rasmusen

At this point in his life, I expect Mr. Hastert cares more for his reputation and, even more, for keeping secrets from his family than for money.

A point in favor of the bastard hypothesis is that the blackmailer would have definite proof in these days of DNA testing. I haven't heard of any other Hastert scandals, so he could stonewall any accusation that had no physical evidence.

It seems unbelievably stupid that he would commit the seemingly motiveless crimes of withdrawing multiple under-$10,000 crimes and of lying to the FBI. It might well be foolishness, but another possibility is that he wanted to avoid double blackmail. If the FBI or the bank regulators learned that he was withdrawing large amounts and investigated, they might discover the underlying blackmailed conduct. Then the Administration could start blackmailing him too, asking for political favors.

narciso

naw that's crazy talk:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/dennis-hastert-blasts-republican-efforts-shut-government-article-1.1475575

the odd thing, he has not been for transparency, so what does this prove.

Jim Miller

henry - Oh, I don't doubt that Hastert was breaking laws; I'm just trying to figure out why.

It seems to me that any explanation has to account for at least these four things:

1. The timing hint. This relates to something that happened years ago, probably when he was a high school teacher.

2. The total amount.

3. The cash payments.

4. The fact that the other person has not been charged.

(There may be other things, which is why I said at least.)

Stephanie

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/243418-dennis-hastert's-weird-2014-CSPAN-call

some grain for the grist mill.

Mastro1

For $1.7 million this had better be juicier than a child out of wedlock. I mean really- who cares- he's almost retired.

Blackmail might work today for married people. Since your spouse gets half your stuff- at least- it might be better to pay to keep the attorneys away.

Jim Miller

Here's a list of some celebrity child support payments for those who, like me, were curious about the amounts.

narciso

I don't know where he would fall on the organizational chart, No 6?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/05/shock-video-top-democratic-adviser-argues-for-more-limits-on-freedom-of-speech/

Thomas Collins

I'm in the camp that says for this kind of money, this was not Hastert knocking up a woman over the age of consent and now paying hush money/child support. I also agree that the structure of the indictment indicates that this happened when Hastert was a high school teacher and coach.

narciso

the reverse is probably true, the soccer scrum over every breath, every thought W ever made,


http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/05/on-the-frenzy-over-sidney-blumenthal/394406/

Extraneus
In 2010, during meetings between Mr. Hastert and the unnamed individual, the two discussed “past misconduct” by Mr. Hastert against the person, according to the indictment.

In those meetings and in later discussions, Mr. Hastert agreed to provide money to the person “in order to compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct,” the indictment said.

I don't see how the love-child scenario explains "misconduct" "against" the victim of the misconduct. Who'd be the victim? The mother?

Also, $3.5M seems way too high for something like that.

I vote for something far more embarrassing.

Miss Marple

narciso,

An article by James Fallows! This morning, in The National Journal, a similar article by our old friend, the loathsome Joe Conason.

They are all coming out of the woodwork. I wonder if they have all been employed by the Clinton Foundation.

Theo

I agree with Ext and TC and others -- the love child scenario does not really add up. The priest/altar boy analogy makes a lot more sense.

Of course, we do not (yet) know, but I am surprised that Tom Maguire would so blithely assume the love child theory is true and not even seriously consider anything else.

Would a love child be that greedy? Maybe, but would anyone be so determined to pay so much to keep a love child quiet?

However, the abused former high school wrestler would be both likely to be very aggressive in seeking compensation and likely to find someone willing to pay it.

boatbuilder

It seems pretty obvious Hastert was getting someone to let air out of footballs...

Jim Miller

Well, a second family would explain the amounts, and it looks to me as if Kendall County, where Yorkville is located, is just large enough (more than 100K) so that one could be kept sort-of secret.

Miss Marple

You know, I really love investigating mysteries.

If our government didn't have so many crooks and commies, I might get more actual work done.

Dave (in MA)

Sniffing under-aged pickle/demonstrating some unorthodox wrestling holds inside the singlet?

Theo

Jim --

The only thing that could explain the amounts is fear of exposure. It is pretty clear that he was not paying to support a second family -- it could be done a lot cheaper than that, especially in Yorkville. He was paying someone to keep quiet. Would avoiding the exposure of a love child be worth THAT? Maybe, but I doubt it. Would avoiding the exposure of sexual exploitation of a student be worth that much? Probably.

I am not saying I know for sure. I do not of course. I am just saying that TM's original post seems to be way too cocksure that he has the answer.

Extraneus

First it was $50,000 every six weeks. Then $100,000 every three months.

Seems like a pretty exacting payment schedule for non-court-ordered child support, not to mention great fidelity to an informal payment plan.

On the bright side, Hastert must also have an 820 credit score.

henry

More odd, at this point Hastert would rather go to jail than explain what he is paying to cover up. That does not add up to a love child.

Extraneus

2010. Hmmm... When did the Sandusky thing start breaking?

Try Hang Gliding

He should have stuck with his original withdraws, telling the bank that he had nothing to hide and that they were more than welcomed to fill a currency transaction report. By splitting it up with transactions just under 10k he forced the bank to fill out suspicious transaction reports instead. Which report gets the attention of the Feds more? I own a foreign currency exchange; I write up my fair share of CTRS, and I'm just one little shop. Just imagine how many CTRs the Feds receive a year. The chance of them picking out his CTRs for scrutiny would have been pretty low.

narciso

odd, why didn't he use one of those crisis management shops, you hear so much about, this seems a very old school way of handling things,

Truthbetold

Child support!

Don't embarrass yourself.

Putin

Every where I go to see if I can get some attention, it's old guy perverts.

What is wrong with you people?!

Do I have to put on a tutu and waltz into Alsace Lorraine?

CRichie

Yeah, HAS to be a "good dad" thing. $3.5 million. After so many years.

Given the focus on coaching, you've got far more hints that this is Jerry Sandusky II than a deadbeat dad.

Truthbetold

Hastert is at the center of some far reaching scandals.

This will get very interesting. I'm sure Clarice will do her best to distract or downplay the importance of these developments.

Some Guy

Ig,

You probably know all this stuff, but having just gone through the puppy thing I'll post them anyway in case they might be helpful.

#1 mistake people make with new puppies is not making sure they get enough sleep. And enough is a lot more than you'd think. 16 hours is minimum.

Kennel training makes the house training twice as easy, and helps with the sleep issue. Also don't wait for him to give you a sign, just take him out every hour during the day (on leash if you need to, and I just set a reminder on phone). Praise and reward him every time he uses the outdoor facility. Overnight in the kennel is when they learn how to control their own.

Don't give him food of any kind without getting something from him. A sit, a stay, a come, etc. Do this from the beginning, and the later phases of training are much easier.

Good luck and enjoy!

Will

I think it is far more likely that this is a Jerry Sandusky situation- rumors have circulated about Hastert's orientation for years and it is not at all far fetched to speculate that this could stem from abuse committed by Hastert while he was a wrestling coach. Certainly this explanation is more consistent with the "Bruce" phone call, and it is easy to imagine the Sandusky case itself acting as a catalyst for the blackmailer.

Jeff Dobbs

This day in history: 62 years ago today, the person for whom Hillary Clinton was named nearly five years earlier made history by becoming the first person to reach the summit of Mount Everest.

narciso

16 hours, since when are pups still for that long?

Dickson Shapiro, represents Erdogan, so it seems odd the regime would go after a main partner that way,

Dave (in MA)

The Sandusky case came to light the year after the Hastert payments had begun.

narciso

well Volodya is, ukraine is just trying to hold out?

http://www.globalpost.com/article/6563581/2015/05/28/russia-and-ukraine-are-gearing-all-out-war

Truthbetold

Analyze the timeline in the Hastert Story.

narciso

everything is the iceberg, and we only see the tip,

Some Guy

16 hours, since when are pups still for that long?

When they aren't being stimulated by outside factors. It diminishes as they age, but at 8 weeks 16 is the minimum. You'd be shocked at how much better behaved and happy they are if you make sure they get that sleep.

Porchlight

Just like human babies, SG. It's all about the sleep. Modern parents err IMO in thinking it's all about the food.

Some Guy

Oh, and it's not 16 hours straight.

narciso

btw, they arrested that Shepherd guy from Valdosta State, the one wishing death on everyone,

Threadkiller

One of the many problems with your analogy, SG, is the notion that "friend" has the same association to a repair business as McNally does to his employer.

Truthbetold

No, Porter Goss represents Turkey.

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/08/former-cia-director-porter-goss-registers-lobby-turkey/

Dublindave

So the problem isn't the supposed young boy from Yorkville that Denny sexually abused...the problem is the number of young boys over the years....in the House.....while he was leader.....what other Republicans knew about it and helped Deny cover it up?

We're literally going to have to do a full body cavity search of the entire Republican party day in and day out for the next two years...right past the election.......we're going to have to add Duggar to this and ask the painfull question...how many other Republicans were taking part?


Was it a ring?

I see Benghazi losing some of it's steam.

People Nuncio

The dastardly deed(s) referred to in the indictment occurred during Hastert's time as coach when he was in charge of underage and semi-adult boys, 1964±-1980. Can that give us a clue to what he perpetrated and which he was so eager to keep in the closet that he would pay over 3 million dollars to shut up an alleged victim? Was he teaching his young charges about the wide stance so favored by at least one American Senator? Nope, Hastert was not in the Senate. Where the heck did he get the $3 mill anyway? This is just the latest of several scandals involving Hastert. Look it up in Wikipedia.

Mike Giles

Uh, if you take money out of your account and then use it, what business is it of the FBI what you spend it on - assuming it's legal. And why the assumption that you won't structure your activities so as to avoid time consuming paperwork? Are you supposed to "WANT" to fill out innumerable government forms?

Some Guy

TK, change it to 'other mechanic' or 'other employee' if that makes you happy. (Won't post again on this topic here).

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