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June 21, 2015

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NKonChrome

I didn't like the US Open set up. It was an interesting concept that failed, except for the PST schedule which allowed for sunday evening viewing back east (and the choo choo trains, I did like those).

Cecil Turner

Williamson gives a laundry list of very good reasons why Trump would be a terrible President . . .

Except to do that, he'd first have to get elected; the chances of which are pretty much nil. If he were to win the nomination he might get a historic first, though: could possibly convince me to vote Democrat.

Captain Hate

This is what we're up against:

http://www.jammiewf.com/2015/classy-ap-runs-photo-with-image-of-gun-pointing-directly-at-ted-cruzs-head/

DebinNC

Rove: "Now maybe there’s some magic law that will keep us from having more of these. I mean basically the only way to guarantee that we will dramatically reduce acts of violence involving guns is to basically remove guns from society, and until somebody gets enough “oomph” to repeal the Second Amendment, that’s not going to happen."

Trump: "Karl Rove stated clearly that he wanted to repeal the Second Amendment."

Threadkiller

Which Democrat would convince you to vote for Trump? Their pro-life candidate?

DebinNC

AP's biased reporting appearing daily in papers nationwide is much more pernicious than we realize.

rse

New post up. http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/sneaking-into-the-cracks-to-instill-the-outlined-characteristics-of-the-new-soviet-man-while-the-fatal-conceit-returns/

Threadkiller

Fox's Brit Hume just spent some time explaining what Rove really meant as Martha MacCallum shrugged the whole thing off as "some people don't get irony."

They both agreed that social media ran with the story.
Not Trump alone?

Jack The Trans-Former

Jane,

You have email.

Jeff Dobbs

TK:
I don't follow your question, Jeff.

Is it facetious?

Sure, I'm just plodding along with your objection to calling people clowns. But of course the differences in usage between Williamson and Trump make a comparison not apt. But this is the internet, so I can just run with it.

Besides, I don't know why, in this day and age, anyone is still using the word "clown".

Calling people "loons" is much more effective.

Cecil Turner

Which Democrat would convince you to vote for Trump? Their pro-life candidate?

I think he'd need the entire clown costume . . . and then I'd still probably stay home. Bernie Sanders would be a close call (how he can poll within double digits of Hildabeast is a puzzle) . . . couldn't vote for Clinton . . . Yep, home works.

Threadkiller

I didn't know I objected to clown-calling.

Threadkiller

A protest non-vote? I'm with you on that.

Cecil Turner

Iggy objected (sort of) to clown calling, not TK.

A protest non-vote? I'm with you on that.

Only against the Donald (who I rather doubt is running anyway). Aside from being unserious unqualified and unsuitable, what's to hate?

Threadkiller

Ah. I think you attributed a statement from Iggy to me, Jeff.

I am all for name calling.

Threadkiller

If Trump can demolish the GOPe during the primary process, I will consider that a win, CT.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

I was agreeing with CH when I objected to calling people who are interested in a guy like Trump clowns if ones intent is to get them to change their minds.
In the instant case (sorry, too much time around lawyers) I was talking about Williamson's unfortunate insults of not just Trump but those who like him or what he says.

If ones intent is to just insult, have at it with whatever pejorative is available.

Captain Hate

A protest non-vote? I'm with you on that.

I'm to the point where I'm considering this which is a major change from anything before. The GOP has seen what happens when you have a good conservative candidate yet they act like everybody is Goldwater v2.0. I'm tired of voting exclusively for GOPe tomato cans.

Maybe when push comes to shove I'll unenthusiastically trudge my way to the polls and vote for the next designated squish but I'd really prefer to be enthusiastic about casting a vote.

Jane

JIB,

I didn't get an email from you.

Jeff Dobbs

Ohhhh. Shoot. I know what happened. Californians all look alike....

Beasts of England

What are the too three issues for this group in the 2016 presidential elections? I'd spitball these out there:

• Appreciation of this country and the values that brought us this far.

• Recognition that the federal government is a necessary evil and not a panacea.

• Recognition that the welfare state is moral and economic suicide.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

Deb quoted this narcissistic indulgence by Barry;

--With the campaign to replace him heating up, Obama said he thinks he would be a better candidate if he were running again, because although he’s slowed down a little bit, “I know what I’m doing and I’m fearless.”

He explained why he's Fearless Fosdick right after that with this;

“I’ve screwed up. I’ve been in the barrel tumbling down Niagara Falls. And I emerged and I lived. And that’s always such a liberating feeling,” he said.

This is even worse. What falls has he been over wrapped up in his little golf tramping, fundraiser vamping, Camp David skeet shooting camping bubble?
What was his screwup? Not disbanding congress and declaring martial law?

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

TK looks like Tom Selleck?

Threadkiller

Ignatz looks like James Garner?

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

Recognition that the Federal government's main job is to defend the country and that China, Russia and Islam are our enemies.

Recognition that defending our country from them entails a military of a size and capability to dissuade them from attacking us or our interests and of decisively defeating them should they not be dissuaded.

Recognition that biofuels pumped into nonfunctioning F 35s by male troops in heels and skirts does nothing to accomplish the first two.

Recognition that any government program which performs that which individuals and private communities can do for themselves is evil and a threat.

Beasts of England

Or a shorter version: would your preferred candidate appoint a Scalia clone to SCOTUS? That will be a huge issue. Jeb wouldn't, Trump wouldn't. Carly would, Cruz would, Walker would.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

I don't see how he got us confused, Tom.

matt

As they used to say at San Quentin, it's the amps that get you. Been a while since an execution there, though.

As a confirmed non-golfer I found the Open to be

1 - A clown show as broadcast by Fox.

2 - Enthralling as played.

They cut so quickly from one shot to the next it was like watching a pinball game. I guess they figure that it's for the ADD generation.

That course was fiendishly difficult. I think most of the players will be walking at an angle for a day or two. It was 4,950 yards for the right leg and 5,125 yards for the left. They used special slippy sand in the bunkers and the greens were microcosms of the Wisconsin Dells.

I drove by a local course afterwards and was blown away by how flat and simple it was. I have the utmost respect for the pros. Precision defined.

Threadkiller

Cruz would appoint someone who thinks that wiping their ass with the Constitution is appropriate.

Cruz isn't eligible.

Old Lurker

Recognition that a country with no effective borders is not really a country at all.

Threadkiller

Ig.

;-)

Dave (in MA)
As a confirmed non-golfer I found the Open to be

1 - A clown show as broadcast by Fox.

I wouldn't know because I don't watch golf, but if they didn't feature animated robots bashing the on-screen graphics with golf clubs then it was better than what they used to offer for hockey.

DebinNC

AP left out BOzo's "barrel tumbling down Niagra Falls" comment. But included this:
The president said while attitudes about race have improved significantly since he was born to a white mother and black father, the legacy of slavery "casts a long shadow and that's still part of our DNA that's passed on."

From birth BOzo had his grandfather, then his step-father, then his grandfather's presence again, so he was never without a male role model active in his life, unlike so many poor blacks. Has BOzo ever publicly encouraged marriage or pointed to the absence of black fathers involved in their childrens' lives as being far more harmful than an amorphous "long shadow of racism" by whites?

DebinNC

BOzo returns to the WH today in time for the annual Iftar dinner honoring Ramadan. Tues and Thur's schedules have BOzo "attending meetings", but no telling what "attend" means in BO-speak. On Wed. there's by a WH reception in recognition of LGBT month, and Friday shows no activities at all.

Captain Hate

They cut so quickly from one shot to the next it was like watching a pinball game. I guess they figure that it's for the ADD generation.

As a frequent critic of Rupert's network, I think they did a credible job in their initial broadcast of a major tournament. There's a certain knack to keep up with the leaders while also showing spectacular shots by the rest. Most of the online complaints I read were mostly from people who just found it "different" from what they were used to, particularly the personalities of the announcers. Yesterday I rolled my eyes a couple times at things Buck said but to his credit, he put in a lot of hours on the air and can be forgiven a bit of fatigue in the end for a sport he hasn't broadcast much before.

I also found a lot of online people defending the job they did.

NKonChrome

FOX did OK, Greg Norman was too Jason Daycentric, but he was a big story. The problem was USGA letting the greens go, so they were a hodgepodge of grasses and uneven in terms of speeds. 'Sustainability nonsense' run wild. The Championship became too much of a game of chance rather than skill.

Beasts of England

Say what we will about the course and the greens, but two of the best players in the world were trading punches up until their final putts on the last hole. The proof is in the pudding. And those late afternoon greens didn't prevent a record-tying nine hole score of 29.

St. Andrews is going to seem like an absolute vacation after last weekend!

danoso

My only real complaint was the 12th hole. I didn't get that one at all - it seemed to be complete luck as to whether you were stuck in the fescue with a tough up and down for birdie or sitting 2 feet away for eagle. The balls just sort of rolled around the bowl, looking a place to stop.

Old Lurker

"I guess they figure that it's for the ADD generation."

Sadly, I suspect there is something to that. It is hard to watch a Fox Screen (or the others) which does not have about a gazillion things and colors in motion happening at the same time. It is hard to find a magazine which does not clutter up each page with a bunch of one paragraph captions under a picture but with no traditional "continued on page 48" link to the lengthy reporting of old. There was a story I saw over the weekend about how most serious acting jobs are now going to Brits who are still trained in the old skills of acting and can do American accents just fine...whereas most American actors lack real training but were raised on the sets and so what since it's just about sex, action, and computer graphics afterall.

Captain Hate

I have to admit I had a lot of fun commenting on the Open yesterday.

NKonChrome

the ball will roll a lot truer on St Andrew's greens that's for sure.

Captain Hate

The balls just sort of rolled around the bowl, looking a place to stop.

My favorite comment yesterday was "Well he missed it coming and going" on the same shot.

Jane

Yikes! They just quoted Clarice on "Outnumbered"

NKonChrome

what the commentators called 'backstops' on the greens, I called 'hitting it off the windmill".

henry

What is "Outnumbered" ??

Eric in Boise

It is hard to find a magazine which does not clutter up each page with a bunch of one paragraph captions under a picture

Comparing a fifty year old copy of Reader's Digest to a current copy is eye-opening...and even a bit frightening.

lyle

Reader's Digest is still a thing?

Huh.

Old Lurker

Continuing in that theme, Eric, a long awaited and needed new grocery store just opened on Nantucket. It is owned by one of the big chains and is fabulous.

However.

Knowing these are marketing pros I am sure there is some monetarial logic (and an MBA marketing wiz) behind it, but golly, when did stores stop placing all items of a similar sort in the same place? Why are there four places where you might find some but not all of some damn item? Milk in four places, eggs in three, cheese in five and so on and so on.

Bah humbug.

NKonChrome

what's a 'magazine'?

Jane

Some dumb Fox show on at noon Henry. 4 chicks and some guy. Today it is Gov Pataki and they were talking about Gruber.

Old Lurker

Funny NK. What is Readers' Digest?

NKonChrome

OL-- items in 4 different places? It's almost as if the store operators want to force you to wander through as many SF as possible before you find the item you need....wait!

Old Lurker

light bulb.

on.

:-)

nk

DrJ

what's a 'magazine'?

I still get many of them, including the Ecommunist, Science, and C&EN. I like magazines.

glasater

So do I, Dr J

Here's an article for Rick Ballard and other JOM numbers crunchers:

Repealing Obamacare Would Lower Federal Deficits

Its a little dense but worth wading thru.

Eric in Boise

What's interesting is that Reader's Digest took a lot of flack back in the day for condensing articles from other magazines, which supposedly meant they were less substantial/serious than the other publications. A copy from the sixties, however, seems almost like City Journal next to most modern stuff.

Even Consumer Reports has been not only dumbed down, but is doing "advocacy" now. Instead of telling you which lawnmower works best, they will now rate them on "sustainability", and then lecture you on why you shouldn't have a lawn in the first place. Ugh.

lyle

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_TV_WEATHER_CHANNEL_CLIMATE_CHANGE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-06-22-09-35-03

NEW YORK (AP) -- The Weather Channel is looking beyond cold fronts and summer showers with a project featuring the voices of 25 prominent people talking about the need to take action on climate change.

The network says its "The Climate 25" series is about science, not politics. But its message is unmistakable, and is consciously designed to reach people who may be doubters about the causes of global warming.

U.S. Army Gen. Charles Jacoby, Unilever CEO Paul Polman, former Environmental Protection Agency administrator Christine Todd Whitman and former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson are among the participants. The 25 are filmed in black-and-white speaking directly to the camera about their perspectives on climate change.

I don't know about you folks, but I'm sold. I mean, c'mon, when you assemble top flight climate science experts like these...

NKonChrome

The Blahous article is dense but accurate. repeal Obummercare, means test Medicare for 60 and under; cut Soc Sec benes for high net worth retirees, do those things and the federal budget gets back under control, after 7 years of war spending and then the 2009 Dem Orgy which created Medicaid expansion and raised the baseline.

Eric in Boise

when you assemble top flight climate science experts like these

Beyoncé and Bieber must have been busy.

Jack The X4mer

Jane,

Need to know name of Duck Boat tour. Having lunch with the boys PF Chang's Charles Street across from Boston Common.

Cecil Turner

Cruz isn't eligible.

Ridiculous. There isn't an eligibility court, it's a popularity contest, and the vast majority of the electorate define it as "citizen at birth." That includes Cruz, who's also the legal scholar President Obama only wishes he was, and actually smart. He's a bit short of experience, but . . .

The GOP has a few outstanding candidates, well-qualified men with pertinent executive experience: Perry and Walker, then . . . maybe Kasich. Second tier is less qualified, but not bad: Cruz, then Rubio, Jindal, Fiorina. Jeb is a bad candidate, but qualified. Christie is dubious, as is Pataki, Paul is unsuitable, as is Santorum, Huckabee, and Graham. Carson is unqualified, and Trump is a clown. Now let's see how the process works. Last time it winnowed out the talent and gave us a bad (but qualified) candidate. If it does the same this time, Jeb will lose. (And I'd hold my nose and vote for him, knowing it didn't matter.)

lyle

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/22/only-difference-between-dylann-roof-and-bill-ayers-is-legitimacy-among-the-left/

This is spot on.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

If I'm reading this right, the pope now says I'm not a Christian.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz

The state of Iowa says this couple is Christian and that's a crime they need to be fined for and driven from business.

Marlene

OL@12:24... my grocery store relocated everything a couple of months ago. It was a strange experience.I wasn't the only person mumbling about the location of items. One guy was mumbling about why the heck didn't they put the peanut butter and jam in the bread aisle?! I guess we are creatures of habit.

Threadkiller

...filmed in black-and-white...

Is Rachel Dolezal a participant?

NKonChrome

This is a long paste, but I don't have a link. From Fr George Rutler, a Catholic's guide to Pope Frank's silliness:

"A museum curator showed me a contemporary copy of the papal bull Inter Caetera by which Pope Alexander VI divided the world between Spain and Portugal with a meridian. While not without effect, it was generally ignored. John Henry Newman’s letter to the Duke of Norfolk lists popes who were mistaken in certain policies: St. Victor, Liberius, Gregory XIII, Paul IV, Sixtus V, and St. Peter himself when St. Paul “withstood” him.

Pope Urban VIII and his advisers, in the misunderstood Galileo case, inadequately distinguished the duties of prophecy and politics, and of theological and physical science. St. John Paul II said that “this led them unduly to transpose into the realm of the doctrine of the faith, a question which in fact pertained to scientific investigation.” Father Stanley Jaki, a physicist, cautioned me against using the “Big Bang” as theological evidence for creation. On a loftier level, the physicist Father Georges Lemaître likewise restrained Pope Pius XII from conflating the parallel accounts of the universe.

Father Lemaître pioneered the “First Atomic Moment”—contradicting the prevailing thesis of a cosmological constant, or “static infinite” universe. Sir Fred Hoyle mocked it as the “Big Bang” but the term now has lost its condescension. Lemaître told the pope: “As far as I can see, such a theory remains entirely outside any metaphysical or religious question . . . It is consonant with Isaiah speaking of the hidden God, hidden even in the beginning of the universe.” It was like the counsel of Cardinal Baronius: the Scriptures teach us how to go to heaven, not how the heavens go.

Pope Francis’ encyclical on the ecology of the earth is adventurously laden with promise and peril. It can raise consciousness of humans as stewards of creation. To prevent the disdain of more informed scientists generations from now, however, papal teaching must be safeguarded from attempts to exploit it as an endorsement of one scientific theory over another concerning anthropogenic causes of climate change. It is not incumbent upon a Catholic to believe, like Rex Mottram in Brideshead Revisited, that a pope can predict the weather. As a layman in these matters, all I know about climate change is that I have to pay for heating a very big church with an unpredictable apparatus. This is God’s house, but he sends me the utility bills.

The first pope, from his fishing days, had enough hydrometeorology to know that he could not walk on water. Then the eternal Logos told him to do it, and he did, until he mixed up the sciences of heaven and earth and began to sink. As vicars of that Logos, popes speak infallibly only on faith and morals. They also have the prophetic duty to correct anyone who, for the propagation of their particular interests, imputes virtual infallibility to papal commentary on physical science while ignoring genuinely infallible teaching on contraception, abortion and marriage and the mysteries of the Lord of the Universe."

Threadkiller

Do you think the majority of the electorate thinks that "born a statutory citizen of as many countries as possible as long as one of them happens to be The US" is what the Constitution prescribes?

Cecil Turner

TK, your quote is silly and you're certifiable on the subject. Cruz was born of a US mother--he's eligible.

Threadkiller

Cruz was born a Canadian and a Cuban. He is not eligible.

henry

Trump was born an asshole. So what?

Threadkiller

Here is a certified quote from Founding Father and first Chief Justice John Jay:


Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a naturalborn Citizen.

Is a dual citizen part foreigner?

Threadkiller

An all American asshole.

Beasts of England

Our new Publix at the lake has several types of items scattered throughout the store, but I see it more as food pairings. There are three or four types of dry pasta on the sauce aisle, a few selections of salsa on the chips aisle, limes scattered with the beer, et cetera.

I see it as convenience and a bit of up-selling. Seems wise to me.

Porchlight

BOzo returns to the WH today in time for the annual Iftar dinner honoring Ramadan. Tues and Thur's schedules have BOzo "attending meetings", but no telling what "attend" means in BO-speak. On Wed. there's by a WH reception in recognition of LGBT month, and Friday shows no activities at all.

Any overlap between the Ramadan invitees and the LGBT invitees? No?

Cecil Turner

Is a dual citizen part foreigner?

Is "certifiable" confusing?

NKonChrome

Is Cruz an American citizen as a result of his 'admission of Foreigner"? where is his naturalization card...... that's a rhetorical question there is none, his citizenship is by birthright. But let the Federal declaratory Judgment Action begin, I assume that schmuck Trump (or Paul) will commence one for the publicity.

NKonChrome

Porch-- if there is overlap... buy popcorn.

Threadkiller

I'm counting on Trump, NK.

As far as I understand the law under which Cruz purportedly gained his US citizenship, his parents had a certain amount of time to run to an embassy or other facility to convey the citizenship to Ted.

Did that take place? Who knows.

Did your parents have to embark on such a process for you to have a such natural flowing form of citizenship? Not if they were citizens and you were born here. Simple.

Captain Hate

I've had my problems with the Ewok over quite a few things in the past but he absolutely nails this one and has been doing so recently:

Obama: NRA Has an "Extremely Strong Grip" on Congress
—Ace

Obama continues speaking American as a second language.

Oh, that's wrong, of course. Mr. Global Cosmopolitan Rara Avis only speaks one language.Which makes one wonder why he speaks it so poorly.

The problem isn't the actual statement -- that the NRA has a "grip" on Congress. It's that Obama seems to suggest this is somehow illegitimate or dishonest.

Obama's real enemy is now, as it as always been, a powerful special interest lobbying group called The Majority of American Citizens.

Threadkiller

Cecil, I stipulate that I am a certifiable clown.

Now back to the question. Would a dual-citizen be considered part foreigner? Maybe the diagram would show them 100% Foriegn and 100% US citizen.

What do you think?

DrJ

CH, I'll listen to Obama on monied special interests once he denounces union money. Not before.

danoso

Cecil -- DoT is on line 3 for you

Threadkiller

Welcome to the party danoso. What do you think about having a foriegn born multiple citizen as Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces?

Beasts of England

The Ewok is at the top of his form with that one, Captain. He's also become more clever as his discontent ossifies.

Captain Hate

Wanna hear a real laugh riot about dead interns? Heyyyyyyyyyoooooooooooooooo:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/06/22/video-morning-joe-panel-avoids-the-l-word-when-discussing-gruber/

Cecil Turner

DoT would probably respond with various court cases . . . I'd just reiterate: silliness.

Speaking of which, how do we narrow the field to serious candidates? Are we going to have 16 talking heads on stage taking gotcha questions from leftist loonies . . . and if so, how do we measure the results? Last guy with money?

There's gotta be a better way. And I'd suggest it starts with a clown exclusion principle.

Cecil Turner

If I'm reading this right, the pope now says I'm not a Christian.

Wow. This part is even more remarkable:

“The great powers had photographs of the railway routes that the trains took to the concentration camps, like Auschwitz, to kill the Jews, and also the Christians, and also the Roma, also the homosexuals,” Pope Francis said, according to the Independent. ”Tell me, why didn’t they bomb [those railroads]?”
Seriously? Leaving aside the inconsistency of anti-armaments and pro-bombing campaigns, does he really want to go there? Considering Pius XII wouldn't even publicly denounce the Nazis, this is kinda bold.

Threadkiller

DoT never managed to go the route of an applicable court case. But he did respond with links to a communist website and a couple of videos of a meerkat/xerox amateur investigator.

The super easy questions cause the most disdain for some reason.

Captain Hate

There's gotta be a better way. And I'd suggest it starts with a clown exclusion principle.

That's fine but whoever I identify as a clown probably has a significant number of high spending backers who say otherwise. I may not like the size of the field but I don't have an equitable way for it to play out otherwise.

Captain Hate

Seriously? Leaving aside the inconsistency of anti-armaments and pro-bombing campaigns, does he really want to go there? Considering Pius XII wouldn't even publicly denounce the Nazis, this is kinda bold.

I can't believe he opened that can of worms. Absolutely disgusting.

NKonChrome

Doug MacArthur's maternal uncles were officers in the Army of Virginia, i.e. rebellious confederates. Did they swear the loyalty oath to the Union after Appomattox? was MacArthur eligible, if there was no proof that his rebellious blood relatives had sworn the oath after their rebelling army had surrendered? We do know FDR and the Congress (they confirmed him) considered MacArthur eligible to be CINC of all allied land forces in the Pacific 1942-1945, and then to become American Shogun of Japan 1945-1948. These questions become silly,but it's silly season, so let someone start a lawsuit and we'll find out. Well, not all of us, some of us will point to the black helos hovering over the SCOTUS when it decides.

Threadkiller

MacArthur and his relatives were Presidents?

danoso

sorry, TK. already used my quota of posts for the month. Back to FT lurking.

sbw

The Pledge: I do not now choose to have an opinion on the eligibility of anyone to be President of the United States.

Anyone on JOM is welcome to take the pledge. I do.

sbw

Jane, CDs should arrive in your mailbox by 3 pm tomorrow.

Threadkiller

I guess you can have the opinion later, sbw.

:-)

Cecil Turner

I may not like the size of the field but I don't have an equitable way for it to play out otherwise.

Not sure I do either, but if the proliferation of the clown posse continues, it could become a real issue; and that sooner rather than later.

These questions become silly,but it's silly season, so let someone start a lawsuit and we'll find out.

Do we have to? 'Cause I think I'd rather not.

Eric in Boise

Anyone on JOM is welcome to take the pledge

Heh. I have a hard enough time not talking to feather boi.

Threadkiller

To think you could have used your last post of your quota to answer a simple question.

Oddly, you would have had two posts left if you didn't insert yourself.

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