The Silence Of The Dogs

Stephanie Armour of the WSJ reports on emails between Obamacare architect Jonathan Gruber and team Obama:

MIT Economist Jonathan Gruber Had Bigger Role in Health Law, Emails Show

Adviser whose comments on Affordable Care Act touched off a furor worked more closely than previously known with White House

Yeah, yeah, fun's fun but... with the Supreme Court expected to release their opinion on the validity of the Obamacare subsidies any day now, a real clickbait headline would have revealed that Gruber and the White House had exchanged emails confirming that Federal subsidies could only go to states that set up their own exchanges. Gruber was repeatedly caught on tape saying just that, but an email with the White House would widen the circle of ex post denial and politically convenient amnesia.

Presumably Ms. Armour knows all this. So, as with the curious incident of the dog in the night, one might infer that no such smoking email was found. Drat.

Comments

[Putin]

You're relying on the media to tell you what was not found?

Additionally I am led to believe that these emails are only the emails released by MIT....your smoking dog email might be buried elsewhere...

Or it might still be in this pile, I don't think your media is that well motivated.

[James D]

And if there were such an email, do you seriously think it would ever be allowed to see the light of day?

[henry]

Um, until recently the White House did not write the laws so an email exchange between ValJar and Gruber means nothing Supreme Court wise. Emails exchanged with Reid or Pelosi (if such things were not removed via rogue exercise band) might have a bearing on legislative intent.

[matt]

Shut up, the administration explained.

[daddy]

Listening to Rush commenting on the Pope's comments about Arms Manufacturers. Apparently the Pope said this:

TURIN, Italy (Reuters) - People who manufacture weapons or invest in weapons industries are hypocrites if they call themselves Christian, Pope Francis said on Sunday.

My question---Did anybody tell Jesus?

Luke 22:33-38:

33 But he replied, “Lord, I am ready to go with you to prison and to death.”

34 Jesus answered, “I tell you, Peter, before the rooster crows today, you will deny three times that you know me.”

35 Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?”

“Nothing,” they answered.

36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. 37 It is written: ‘And he was numbered with the transgressors’[b]; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment.”

38 The disciples said, “See, Lord, here are two swords.”

“That’s enough!” he replied.

[Beasts of England]

My grandfather manufactured very fine gun barrels - Ig will attest to their quality - and this hits very close to home. This Pope is really pissing me off. I won't call him a fascist at the moment, but I reserve the right to do so later.

[James D]

daddy, I thought it was interesting that in the same article the Pope called out arms manufacturers et al, he also talked about the Holocaust and how the Allies knew where the rail lines to the camps were, but didn't bomb them, and he wondered why not.

I am thoroughly tired of this Pope.

[Cecil Turner]

Tom has the best headlines anywhere.

[NKonChrome]

Pope Frank is not a model of reasoned Jesuit argument. Jeez, what a Lefty goofball he is. Follow Fr Rutler's advice, on matters unrelated to scripture.... just ignore him.

[Beasts of England]

Go search for the Pope's comments, re: gun manufacturers, and you can see a greatest hits list of his newest fans: HuffPo, Daily Kos, et al.

And thinking back about six months ago, the Pope and JEF looked way too friendly during the photo ops. Tyrant to tyrant, perhaps.

[Beasts of England]

The Pope saying that someone is not a Christian sounds like a matter of scripture to me.

[Putin]

Looks like everyone is distracted by your President dropping the magic bad word.

Your Obama sounds like a racist--not because of that word -but because he seems to be saying racism is in your DNA.

How does that not sound like a racist, and how is all of your media missing that?

[daddy]

I am thoroughly tired of this Pope.

Me too, James D.

How come I can't recall Pope John Paul the 2nd coming out constantly with nutty statements that had to be immediately clarified and massaged by teams of Vatican Marie Harf's or Josh Ernest equivalents?

I don't know what would have happened with the Lech Walessa movement if this guy had been the Pope in charge at that time, but thank the Good Lord we were given a Pope then who understood the difference between tyranny and freedom.

With this guy I don't even know if Air Conditioner manufacturers are allowed to call themselves Christians any more.

[henry]

Daddy, on the who can call themselves Christian thing.. the Pope missed out on a big event or two in history.

[daddy]

On the other hand, on the top of her victory over Apple, I would be perfectly happy to support Taylor Swift's run for the White House!

Taylor Swift Beats Apple: A 21st-Century Magna Carta?

The cute girls on FOX were ecstatic at the particulars of how Taylor Swift orchestrated Apple's surrender (she did it to ensure "the little people" got paid) and when Cavuto said he wasn't interested in exactly how she pulled it off they both gave him a ration, correctly accusing him of only wanting to run photographs of the cute songstress so that he could ogle her.

Personally I think she needs a bit more meat on her bones, but we could work that out during the Campaign.

[Captain Hate]

he also talked about the Holocaust and how the Allies knew where the rail lines to the camps were, but didn't bomb them, and he wondered why not.

In addition to the comment I made on the prior thread, when Slick was exhausting NATO's bomb supply on Serbia and other Eastern European sites under the guise of helping the Bosnians, my thought then and now was how does it help to have bombs and shells raining down on you without any ground troops to differentiate the prisoners from the captors. As for the WW2 matter, any deviation from the strategic goals of war planning will have negative consequences. That shouldn't be a difficult concept to grasp unless a person is being deliberately dense.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

The power of One.
After Barry told us how unacceptable the VA mess was he rolled his sleeves up and made sure veteran wait times now 50% longer AFTER the VA scandal.
Give me single payer or and give me death.

[Captain Hate]

I hear a lot of complaints about iTunes but, unless I'm missing something, it seems to be an end run around the robber barons in the music biz and makes it easier for artists to get their music out and be judged in the marketplace. They were smart to agree with Taylor Swift on what seems to me to be a no brainer. I'm surprised this mini skirmish was over so very little.

[daddy]

I think every candidate for President on both sides should be specifically asked if they believe the President's recent use of the word "Nigger" is appropriate.

I believe they should also be asked if they believe the President's use of the word "Nigger" is helpful or harmful to Race Relations in America and around the world.

[Neo]

"Each time that these events occur, ironically, gun manufacturers make out like bandits, partly because of this fear that's churned up that the federal government and the black helicopters are all coming to get your guns," he [Obama] said.

He also joked that the "black helicopters" that feature in conspiracy theories were real.

"There are black helicopters, but we generally don't deploy them ... we deploy them against bin Laden but we generally don't deploy them on U.S. soil," he chuckled.

When Barack Obama talks gun control, everyone buys guns.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

I'm afraid this pope is qualifying for at least one half of MarkO's copyrighted and trademarked catchphrase describing our wonderful president.

[lyle]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/22/obama-gun-manufacturers-make-out-like-bandits-after-mass-shootings/

lyle-shady-green-companies-make-out-like-bandits-after-Precious-takes-office

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

--partly because of this fear that's churned up that the federal government and the black helicopters are all coming to get your guns--

Has he considered not calling for more gun control immediately after every shooting in order to calm such fears?
Not exactly an irrational fear when the administration that never lets a crisis go to waste is still in power.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Does anyone doubt for one second, had Heller gone the other way that Barry and his merry band of pranksters would be grabbing every gun they could?

[DebinNC]

BOzo seems unaware that he and his family are being protected in and out of the WH by a cadre of armed agents now and after 2016, but the rest of us are on our own protection-wise.

[Eric in Boise]

"Each time that I open my mouth on this subject these events occur, ironically, gun manufacturers make out like bandits, partly because of this fear that's justifiably churned up that I and my fellow fascists in the federal government and the black helicopters are all coming would love to get your guns," he [Obama] said.

Edited slighty to improve honesty.

[henry]

Ig, they are still grabbing every gun they can -- regs on non-violent domestic complaints or psych evaluations (yup let divorce courts and mental health types take all the guns away).

[NKonChrome]

Barry's Black Helos?

"A little joke is a serious matter."

~ Winston Churchill

[NKonChrome]

henry-- psych evals should play a roll in possession. Of course the real question is what is a legit eval and what is pretext.

[daddy]

Josh Ernest: The President's use of the word (Nigger) and the reason that he used the word could not be more apparent from the context of his discussion on Podcast. The President made clear that it's not possible to judge the Nations progress on Race issues based solely on an evaluation of our country's manners.

[lyle]

Josh Earnest: It's not nigger nigger when the President uses that word.

[DebinNC]

Uh, "manners"? I thought using the n-word equated to hate speech that would get every public employee, and many others. fired (see Deen, Paula).

[lyle]

The President made clear that it's not possible to judge the Nations progress on Race issues based solely on an evaluation of our country's manners.

Does that sentence even make sense to you? Not to me.

[daddy]

"Each time that these events occur, ironically, gun manufacturers make out like bandits

FOX earlier today had some segment where some former Special Ops/CIA type said that ISIS now has adherents in all 50 States, and that there is good reason that they are expecting to do some mass action on a date like July 4th. If that prediction comes true, then gun Manufacturers are going to make out not like bandits, but like the famous Robber Baron's at the turn of the last Century, and for good reason.

[Captain Hate]

So Rupert Pupkin stepped in it again?

[Putin]

Honestly I almost fell for your Obama being The Hope President and transracial--

But when he says that racism is in the DNA of America and "passed on" he does not sound like someone that thinks it can be cured, he sounds like someone who might even be interested in keeping the divide...

Prejudging people (Americans) to be racist due to the DNA --I thought was the very definition of racism in your country-- but I guess I have that wrong.

[lyle]

Barack Hussein Obama: Gun Salesman of The Millenium. Come on up and collect your prize, Barry.

[NKonChrome]

Bandits? meaning manufacturing a product that works as advertised and is affordable for people who want the product? That's a bandit?

[Beasts of England]

You can't expect a race pimp like Barky to embrace ending the racial grievance industry. Conflict of interest.

[Putin]

Speaking of getting things wrong, my young staffers watch too much CNN the other day they were watching the church services in Charleston and they were noticing the politicians at the service--

I kept having to explain to them that two of the old white guys in the pew were the Democrats and that the statewide more important political officials,the black Senator, and the female Indian governor were the Republicans.

Had a doozy of a time explaining this to my young staffers--while CNN says this state is the race haters unparalleled.

[rse]

daddy@ 3:48-that is what we are hearing too. Specifically concerned about malls and the holiday week and attributing it to ISIS sympathizers.

TS's dad is a lawyer and as she got bigger he brought in the former GC of Manpower, who had been at Duke Law with him to run the mgmt company and make sure her interests were properly looked after. She gets very savvy advice.

[Dave (in MA)]

I just checked Ace and there's Howie Carr's mug staring at me: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/357454.php

[NKonChrome]

BoE@355-- that is the simple truth of the matter.

[Marlene on Kindle]

News conference in SC.Gov.Haley is very impressive.The Confederate flag is coming down.Every SC politician is at the podium with her.

[DebinNC]

Wonderful news. Thanks, Marlene.

[DublinDave]

Once again the North has to teach the south a lesson in human dignity and morality.

Now if only we could get them to floss more.

[Marlene on Kindle]

Interesting...I think Reince Priebus was standing behind Nikki Haley.How much pressure was on her from the GOPe? They must want the issue of the Confderate flag to go away.

[Marlene on Kindle]

Confederate. Spelling is a PITA on this thing!

[Cecil Turner]

Anyone notice how much better race relations have gotten since we elected a black president and got all race sensitive and the DoJ all energized on rooting out hate crimes?

Yeah, me neither.

[Dave (in MA)]

Now if only we could get them to floss more.

Cue the pic of the drunken Shane MacGowan...

[DebinNC]

SC Gov. Haley presser ... Excellent.

[NKonChrome]

SC: Lawton Chiles was wrong to put it up, we are correcting the mistake. We admire the yeomen farmers who served their states and fought under the Battle Flag of the Stars and Bars (BTW that was not the national flag), and we'll maintain the monuments to them, but the War Between the states ended 150 years ago, the Rainbow Division was formed almost 100 years ago. It's all an important part of history, no need for flags.

[DublinDave]

It's been a disastrous issue for Republican Presidential candidates who literally cowered from what was their very first test as a potential National leader.

EVEN Republicans admit their potentials failed this test.

But Hilary......Hilary,Hilary,Hilary.......man Hilary took a baseball bat to the head of this crisis,cracked that bitch wide open and stated here's where I stand, like it or lump it this is what we're going to do.

Hilary owned this leadership test.

Yes Jeb,it's over,you can come out from hiding.

[DublinDave]

"Cue the pic of the drunken Shane MacGowan..."

He's English.

[Marlene on Kindle]

NK,Fritz Hollings.

[daddy]

John McLaughlin, Former CIA Deputy Director, on Domestic ISIS Terror Threats on FOX Business:

Melissa Francis: ...That is the 10th arrest of an ISIS supporter here at home in just this last month. 10 in this past month. Our next guest warns that ISIS could be winning the war...

McLaughlin: ...The volume of threats is increasing dramatically and could really tax our ability to keep up with them. You mention that we have had 10 attempted attacks in the last month. If you went back a couple of years when we used to tally these up, typically we'd say that we had maybe 40 to 45 of those over the period of maybe a decade. So the pace of these threats is accelerating...

Melissa: Why is it that you say, and it's frightening coming from a former CIA Deputy Director, why is it that you say that they could win this was?

McLaughlin: I'm trying to draw attention to the realities we face. When you look at what we're doing...let me specify first, that this is a very hard problem for anyone to deal with, so I'm not just criticizing our Government to say we're not doing anything...But a couple things have to occur for us to win and defeat this group. We have to take back territory on the ground, and we haven't done that in substantial measure. Their great appeal comes from their success, and now they've been occupying Iraq's second largest city for close to a year. The second thing we have to do is find some way diplomatically or otherwise to satisfy the grievances of the large Sunni population that comprises about 70% of Syria and about 30% of Iraq. That is the underlying engine that drives the recruitment of people, about a thousand a month we hear, into ISIS, so we are not really making a lot of progress on those 2 things.

[DebinNC]

Interesting to see former SC Gov Mark Sanford, now in the state legislature I think, standing in the line of policos behind Haley.

[NKonChrome]

apologies to Mr Chiles, it was indeed that old phony (national Dem politician of course) Fritz Hollings.

[daddy]

Melissa ends the segment with a ticker that says ISIS Arrests in the US as of June 2015---47 arrests.

[Beasts of England]

What's floss?

[daddy]

I just checked Ace and there's (UNC Chapel HILL Grad) Howie Carr's mug staring at me:

Fixed that for ya' Dave:)

Was it you or Rocco who told me he somehow finagled getting accepted down there as an In-State resident?

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

A Mick advising people to floss more.
It's like a leftist telling people to think.

[daddy]

Nov 16, 2014: Obama on Gruber:

The fact that some advisor who never worked on our Staff uhhh, expressed an opinion that uhhh I completely disagree with, uhhh in terms of the voters, is no reflection on the actual process that was run.
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[Porchlight]

How does that not sound like a racist, and how is all of your media missing that?

Good flippin' question, Vlad.

[anonamom]

Debin NC--Nikki Haley is a true leader. Every minute of her life since last Wednesday has shown it. Thanks for the link to her presser.

Beasts, it's A-Ok with me if call my pope fascist. No offense taken.
We have long and glorious history of awful, evil, despicable popes.
It's good for people to be reminded that they need to think for themselves--that ultimately, it's between them and God.

[daddy]

A Mick advising people to floss more.
It's like a leftist telling people to think.

Iggy,

It's as nutty as a Right Handed Kangaroo

[Extraneus]

Ig, they are still grabbing every gun they can -- regs on non-violent domestic complaints or psych evaluations (yup let divorce courts and mental health types take all the guns away).

It happened to me, almost in the dead of night, and it required a letter from my then-wife - who didn't ask that they be taken - to get them back. No court case or opportunity to argue, just a simple visit from the sheriff with a paper signed by a judge.

[Janet]

Start asking all the Dems if racism is in their DNA.
Obama says so, so it must be true.

[maryrose]

The Conferate flag is part of the Souths and US. history
My suggestion let's close all places that display the Underground Railroad part of history
Doesn't that make the North look bad and remind everybody of the Civil War