Traditional Friday Afternoon "Catch That Tiger!" Open Thread

Tiger Woods (12 over in his second round at the Open) has become the Barack Obama of golf. Oh that's not fair - at least Tiger is not blaming his fans.

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[Captain Haiku]

It might also be
Barky is the Tiger Woods of
Foreign policy

[flodigarry]

Primero?

[henry]

Goodness, from the descriptions here Tiger is playing golf like O plays golf: often yet without anything to brag about.

[flodigarry]

Missed it by that much!

[boatbuilder]

I never thought I would feel sorry for Tiger, but I do. It must be brutal to know that you were, not long ago, by far the best golfer in the world, and then have to play like, well...me (on a really, really good day) in front of the whole world. Tiger earned his titles and his victories and his place among the greats. Obama, on the other hand, started with a phony Nobel and went downhill from there, but still thinks he's Mr. Wonderful.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

Barky closed down 17 local airports in the LA area yesterday to gather more Dem tribute. Tomorrow he goes to the Springs to play (with some sports) and will continue to close local airports. The guys at the local small airports are not happy. This happens all too often but it's their own fault they have "flight privilege".

[Thomas Collins]

I look at it more from the perspective of Nicklaus than Woods. Even if he's at the end of his putter, Woods will go down as the greatest golfer of his generation, and the second greatest of all time. But too many experts for too long viewed Nicklaus's 18 majors record as something that was going to fall inexorably to Tiger. No disrespect to Woods, but noone can be assumed a likely candidate to hit 19 or 18 until he actually does it.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

It was nice to see all three of his group yesterday able to laugh about how awful they were all playing.
Probably not after they retired to chambers but as it was happening it was fairly human.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Wretchard on the undersea arms race in the western Pacific.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Even better Wretchard column from a couple weeks back on a war in the western Pacific.

[anonamom]

NPR interviewer is desperately trying to make the murders a reflection on deep racial divisions in America, but the local Charleston black pastor is having absolutely none of that. Looks like one very deranged 20 year old to him, and like a number of the family members, he's walking the talk and going to try to forgive him.

Charleston is not going to be burning itself down.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Robert Spencer on how IS is following Zawihiri's and Bin Laden's plans for a caliphate to a T.
But Barry "got" Bin Laden.
The equivalent would have been FDR declaring victory, picking up his jacks and going home after Yamamoto was shot down.

[Jane]

It's interesting that the "racism" abounds in ferguson, Chicago and Baltimore, but southern Charleston is having none of it. I'm so proud of them.

Usually I am the only one here whose heart aches for Tiger, so he really must be playing awful.

[Beasts of England]

Is this the golf thread?

Oh, wait! It is the golf thread!! Woot!

[Beasts of England]

Spieth has put together two solid rounds and will be at or near the top heading into the weekend. Such a good kid. And I won't make a prediction about him winning it, but having his first major out of the way is a heck of an advantage over the other players clustered near the top at the moment.

[Jane]

Anyone gotta link to the pope's treatise on the environment? I'm looking for paragraph 121.

[Miss Marple]

Jane,

Here is a link to the USA Today story, and if you scroll down you can read paragraph 121, which I find very disquieting.

I tried to copy the paragraph here, but it comes out as gobbledygook.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2015/06/18/pope-francis-climate-encyclical-pdf/28918737/

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

For some haters, the hot variety is a little too crude. They prefer “cool hate,” based on contempt, and express disgust for another person through sarcasm, dismissal or mockery.

Cool hate can be every bit as damaging as hot hate. The social psychologist and relationship expert John Gottman was famously able to predict with up to 94 percent accuracy whether couples would divorce just by observing a brief snippet of conversation. The biggest warning signs of all were indications of contempt, such as sarcasm, sneering and hostile humor.

[Jane]

Thanks Miss Marple.

[maryrosee]

Frau
That is so true
Those kind of comments show disrespect and a lack of kindness
All young gals out there watch how your future possible husband treats his mother
That is your cue to move forward or kick him to the curb
My husband once stated we couldn't get together because he was taking his mom out to dinner
I thought to myself this is the man I will marry

[Jane]

Actually it is paragraph 120 I was looking for which talks about abortion and how it is incompatible with believing in global warming.

The true believers are screwed.

[Threadkiller]

Another duffer thread?

How tedious.

[boris]

There was an FBI profiler on TV who noted the Charlston shooter was banned from a certain institution yet returned in spite of that. Which indicated the shooter was a "rule breaker", a sort of anarchist. The type who seeks out people to hate, inflict himself upon them, and scold them for their transgressions before opening fire.

[new lurker]

Ben, do you really think the things you are saying or are you being paid? It is amazing to me to read what you write.

[boris]

Of course mass murders are rare and trolls are common, but the similarities are interesting.

[boris]

The pope's para 121 seems kinda garbled even when transcribed ...

We need to develop a new synthesis capable of overcoming the false arguments of recent centuries. Christianity, in fidelity to its own identity and the rich deposit of truth which it has received from Jesus Christ, continues to reflect on these issues in fruitful dialogue with changing historical situations, In doing so it reveals its eternal newness.

See what I mean?

[DebinNC]

Reuben Greenberg, long-time police chief in Charleston, proudly black and Jewish, was a beloved force for good, and his legacy lives on.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

"Amazing" is not a word I would use.

'Cleo likes to surface on the weekends. Strange.

[Miss Marple]

Boris,

I do indeed, which is why I found that paragraph disquieting.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

Debin NC - thank you for the tribute to a remarkable man.
FTA:

Some of his methods included putting Charleston officers on the street on foot, bicycle and horseback and he combined tough policies on police use of force with aggressive crime-fighting tactics, such as questioning suspicious persons on the street and laying bait for thieves. And he didn't just ride a desk. He could be found patrolling the city's streets at all hours of the day, popping in at crime scenes or barking commands over the police radio.

[boris]

you misspelled "psycho"

[lyle]

Despicable POS™ is back.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I'm with TC; when all the Eldrick bots were already assuming he'd leave the Golden Bear's majors record in the dust I thought "there's a reason that record isn't higher than it is".

[maryrosee]

Tiger has had a good run
Some people just don't have staying power
One who does in football is Peyton Manning
He comes from a strong family

[Jane]

Tiger should write a book about how one goes about destroying himself.

[Rocco]

Laudato Si is a matter of prudential judgment, not doctrine. The Catechism already contains teaching regarding the responsibility of good stewardship regarding God's gifts on earth.

Infallible? Informal? How binding is the new encyclical on Catholics?

[Miss Marple]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/white-house-top-chef-missing-mexico-hiking-trip/story?id=31890031

[Jane]

We have an official chef to Switzerland? I hope he is okay.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Chambers Bay is a strange course even by Open standards. I like the train.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

We had something strange happen tonight; right after dinner I heard a strange muted car collision sound and right in front of my house an SUV was on its top. He clipped a parked SUV and must've really been cranking it to accomplish that. He crawled out unscathed though as it held up pretty well.

We'd brought home our new Airedale pup, Teddy, a couple hours earlier so it gave him a chance to meet the neighbors.

[JiB]

CH,

A few courses on the Open Championship rota have trains. Royal Lytham notably.

Hard day today driving. Lost a tire on I-81 with semis doing 80 on my flank and no room to maneuver to the shoulder but we made it. Call our MB service and got the tire replaced and back on the road.

Now watching on Fox live stream. Put a fork in Phil. He's toast and his body is showing it. Young guys tourney just for the fitness to walk it.

[Miss Marple]

I forgot how much I detest Alan Combs.

He's trying to blame the "toxic cocktail" of South Carolina's Confederate flag, roads named after Confederate generals who supported slavery, lax gu laws, etc. etc.

Rich Lowry told him he was full of it and politicizing the tragedy, whereupon he doubled down plus said he was taken out of context. He said it RIGHT THEN! There wasn't any context, except the one where democrats say hateful political stuff and then tell you you're too stupid to understand what they said.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

The strenuous nature of the course was doubtlessly a factor in Jason Day's vertigo acting up. Even though it happened on 18 and he was able to finish the round, how sure can he be that the next two days won't be worse. Some of the holes are eagle attainable which makes it really strange for an Open.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I meant to add that Phil really misjudged some greens in a manner highly unusual for him.

[Stephanie]

You mean that Confederate flag that is flying over a Confederate Memorial not over the State House? WTF does he think should fly over a Confederate Memorial? The Microsoft Flag?

[Jack The Transformer]

Off to bed. Our little B&B has no TV so I am live streaming the open which went off the air. Kept getting 404 for the Fox streaming & used the USGA app. Strange just like Chambers Bay.

Off to Beantown tomorrow.

[Stephanie]

I don't think I would care to play that course...

Have heard it described as both as an airport runway with a hole at the end and as a pinball machine where you pull the trigger with your tee shot and see where the ball ends up. Doesn't sound like golf as much as luck.

My putting keeps me in tournaments and that fescue poa annua mix would have me throwing things.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Fox's coverage has been pretty good. I was thinking that Joe Buck might be a terrible choice but he's doing a decent job.

[Stephanie]

http://www.geoffshackelford.com/homepage/2015/6/19/butch-tigers-a-lost-soul-and-its-hard-to-watch.html?mbid=social_facebook

Yep. But the go home no play more tournaments confusion is ridiculous.

[Miss Marple]

Stephanie,

It's amazing to me that while we have campuses awash in ISIS sympathizers and Palestinian flags, the lefties focus on the Confederate flag like it's some evil talisman that incites violence.

Dylan Roof was the type of nutcase that would have focused on something. He unfortunately zeroed in on an historic black church and black people. Had he come across ISIS stuff instead of white supremacist stuff, he would have looked for a synagogue.

Which gets me to terrorism and why it is that while the Left ascribes all sorts of evil machinations to the Confederate flag, they ignore ISIS and Islamic terrorism in general.

One could probably do a doctoral dissertation in abnormal psychology with that theme.

On Twitter tonight someone captured two tweets from Salon: one blaming all whites for the Charleston murders, and one saying all Muslims shouldn't be blamed for the Tsarenev brothers in Boston. So there you go.

[Old Lurker]

Jib, how did you lose a tire? I was just saying to my kids how common that used to be but rare now.

[Miss Marple]

I just heard Oliver North mention that Rupert Murdoch's father was at Galipoli.

[narciso]

Yes skeleton@ capt hate,is showing his true colors, although he had already removed all doubt with the Huntress nearly seven years ago.

Al sura who contrary to some reports was not released is the ideologies for is, his handiwork was seen in Madrid and london.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Steph, if I played that course my clubs would be in the trash can by the third hole.

[Jack The Transformer]

OL,

Still up.

From the look of it I must had run over some sharp metal. Slash on the side wall and very deep metal penetration in the tread. I-81 is very heavy semi traffic and other commercial. Could have been anything. 2nd one in 4 months. Once in Florida on 95.

Cost me 2 1/2 hrs driving time.

[narciso]

Is Goodell picking the courses, in this sport too.

[narciso]

So the opm hack actually happened a year ago, according to the bozos post.

[Stephanie]

Absolutely, MM. Saw that Salon crap posted earlier.

http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2015/06/19/two-salon-headlines-side-by-side-are-causing-quite-a-stir-on-social-media/

You could do a doctoral dissertation on that theme, but you would be booted out of that soft science even loaded with facts for a microaggression.

[Miss Marple]

Here are the 2 Salon headlines I mentioned earlier:

[Miss Marple]

Yopu know what? I think Liberal America should have to answer for all of the mentally ill who are walking the streets instead of being hospitalized.

[narciso]

Wajahat Ali of al jazeera, a q's echo chamber for much of the last decade, locate in Qatar the sandbox foe everyone from the Taliban to Boko haram?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Actually narc, the USGA does an outstanding job in selecting very challenging courses for this tournament. They love to have the winner not obliterate the course and the only time that happened recently was at Congressional; and the only reason that happened was the last time they cut the rough, in plenty of time ordinarily for it to grow to the preferred tropical jungle length while fending off complaints from the members of getting Lyme disease from all the ticks residing there, a drought happened and it was like extended fairway and it was bombs away on a course which is short to the heavy hitters.

[Miss Marple]

narciso,

The parts do not make up the whole. Please restate your last communication.

[narciso]

They certainly provided the template for deinstitutionalization, miss marple.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Jimmy Carter should answer for that, as the President and a client.

[narciso]

The critic scribbled some screed called domestic crusaders, doesn't that tell all.

Both let of media doesn't matter started at salon poo point jihadists and even serving as apologist for al arian

[DebinNC]

Shalom, y'all ... Story about the amicable relationship between Charleston and its large Jewish community, which for decades included the black police chief Reuben Greenberg. Every year Greenberg would meet the KKK at the city limits and lead their small, annual parade down the thoroughfare himself.

[narciso]

I stand corrected, capt, rush was commenting on that course as well.

[narciso]

Bob Shrum removes all doubt, what year is this again?

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

--Fox's coverage has been pretty good. I was thinking that Joe Buck might be a terrible choice but he's doing a decent job.--

The first thing out of the gate they were pretty rough as they got their sea legs but they have shaped up pretty nicely.
Joe is bland and no Jack Buck, but he's never bugged me the way he has you occasionally, CH.
Their gal in orange who was doing the interviews during the day is a delightful cut above watching Peter Kostis. :)

I love the trains too.
Might be a bugger to play, but it's a great course to watch the pros play.

[narciso]

And EffendI Ali is from al ghuatdian, same principle.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

" Every year Greenberg would meet the KKK at the city limits and lead their small, annual parade down the thoroughfare himself."
Heh! Good for Chief Greenberg; he was a twofer poke in the eye of the KKK:** Jewish and black.
**All Democrats, I'm sure.

[Miss Marple]

Well, O'Reilly is repeating, so it is a sign I should head to bed.

Nytol.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Some of these greens are brutal. Kudos to Fox for running past 11 to finish the coverage. Golf in prime time FTW!

[Captain Haiku]

Golf spelled backwards is
Flog does this mean anything
Just to certain folks

[narciso]

I evenk they must have used Google translate boris, or he'S even more incoherent than usual.

Kauffman, author of nutrients squirrel, is another nazgul who hit the big time.

[narciso]

Nut roots, then again I might have been right the first time.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

I suspect the troll with no friends of his own has stolen the identity of someone with the same name! That's really pitiful.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Iggy, the Shark was a question mark too and has done fine. Golf is probably more difficult for an announcer to screw up; I can certainly get more pleasure out of listening to Johnny Miller criticizing everybody than that bitter troll Billy Packer in kollidge hoops.

[Dave (in MA)]

This jackwad was jabbering away on the TV over the bar while I was waiting for my takeout order last night. The mind boggles.

[Frau Fliegeralarm]

Captain Haiku - I hope you are collecting your work.

G'nytall

[DrJ]

Since this is an open thread, I'll mention something that just makes me shake my head.

My lead scientist is into endurance events, like "Tough Mudder." That is an an event that a former British secret service member came up with -- it is a combination of a marathon with an obstacle course, where you have to wallow in mud under electric wires, swim, scale vertical walls, and a lot of other nonsense. And you have to do that for 20 or more miles.

There was one at Lake Tahoe this past weekend, and said scientist participated. She covered 30-35 miles over two days, and one could only do 10 or 12 on the last day -- that's all that was allowed.

Wow.

She's a tiny woman, though with all of the workouts she does her arms and shoulders are bigger than mine. Her biggest issue was a bad sunburn. And she is approaching 40, so she is no carzy yute.

I doubt I could have walked one lap on the course.

[narciso]

Loofah boy was particularly obtuse today

[DebinNC]

Someone might want to tell the SC Minority Leader that Dylann Roof was captured, because Debbie Dills had watched a FOX News report and recognized him.

[DebinNC]

FEMA declines Baltimore Mayor "Space to Destroy" request to cover damages for the woman-made disaster she caused. Imagine the precedent that would have set for other Dem hells.

[GUS]

Ben is Dana Gilbert Ward. A mentally ill criminal...I am told. For those who wish to engage him, let it be known exactly WHOM you are engaging. He is a sick pile of shyte. He's sick.

[DrJ]

A-rod got is 3,000th hit today -- a home run. Congrats to him, in spite of his issues.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

--Iggy, the Shark was a question mark too and has done fine.--

He was a little rough out the gate too Cap, but has loosened up nicely.
And I love Johnny Miller, BTW.

On play by play guys, IMO the best and most underrated guy with probably the hardest job is Mike Emrick who calls the NHL for NBC.
He flows back and forth with the possession changes effortlessly and not only is smooth as silk, almost never repeats an adjective.
I find myself occasionally missing plays because I'm listening too closely to him.

[GUS]

A-Rod is tainted. I am a HUGE baseball fan.
I congratulate him nonetheless. George Brett, Robin Yount, Paul Molitor and Tony Gwynn all had 3000 hits without taint. Mild mannered heroes.

[Gentlejim]

CHMI, Agree with you on Doc. Hockey is very exciting, but just listening to him takes it to a new level.

GUS, agreed on A-Rod. Brett, Yount, Molitor and Gwynn were incredible players. I had the good fortune of meeting Brett at spring training in 1977. What a thrill.

[GUS]

GentleJim, I think I've mentioned before that both my BELOVED DAD, and my Father in law are GENTLE JIMS'!!!!! My younger brother is GENTLE JAMIE....the COP!!!!!
I called the Royals 20 years ago at Christmas to see if I could get a MLB baseball signed by George Brett. The young lady I was put in contact with, grew up ONE BLOCK....ONE FRIGGIN' BLOCK, from me in Wauwatosa Wisconsin. (home of Scott Walker, Stephen Hayes, and GUS.)
I got the ball signed by Mister Brett and it's a classic story with me and my best friend.

[daddy]

A very fun Dog Walk today with an exciting finish.

Did the full Near Point climb I mentioned yesterday, so left about noon and took about 3 hours to reach the top. Passed 2 big moose on the way up, but the dogs were tired out so they left them alone excepting a weak bark or 2 from panting Fry.

At the top we just laid around for an hour enjoying the view, and was able to have big fun texting Jane and Caro, and sharing a couple pics from the summit. Unfortunately, trying to send a photo of a circling Eagle with the dogs barking at it, caused my phone texter system to get clobbered, so our link died.

Anyhow, 2 hours later on the return leg, and as we're about to cross the bridge over the swift flowing creek near where the hike started, we bump into another group of hikers and dogs coming up. We are abeam the creek by about 30 yards, and Fry suddenly chases after their hounds into the woods and brush that's between the trail and the creek.

I'm chasing Scout who is searching for his tennis ball I had thrown earlier, and by the time he finds it and comes back to me, Fry has disappeared. So I start hollering for where the rascal went off the path, down a slope, an into a bit of woods along the creek.

I'm hollering and hollering to no avail, until finally I see some motion in the bushes/trees along the river about 30 yards away. I'm sure it's Fry, so naturally I keep angrily hollering "Fry, Fry", making a big spectacle, and suddenly the movement becomes the head of a huge brown bear, who steps out of the brush and stands up. A huge and a beautiful brown bear---biggest I've ever seen on my hikes.

It's amazing how you realize at one instant "Holy S###", but in that same instant you also recognize how magnificent this creature looks.

Anyhow, I grab Scout's collar and we move back up the trail out of visual range from the bear, up about a hundred yards, and I'm already thinking Fry is a goner and Momma is gonna' be mad. I'm still making noise, loud "CayyyyRoooo's," and hoping the bear is on about his business.

Then dummy Fry comes running out of the bushes and on up to me with that look that says, "What are you hollering about?" I don't think he ever even saw the brown Bear.

Anyhow, I holler a bit longer, leash up Fry, and then walk back on down the trail, past where I spotted the bear, across the bridge, and on to the trail head and parking lot. An exciting finish! Hope I never see one in the wild any closer than that. (PS My bear was better looking than the one in the picture, but I was not in a photo-taking mood:)

Wish you guys had been there.

[GUS]

Cool Daddy. I saw a 600lb Black bear MAMA and 2 cubs, a week ago tomorrow. In WISCONSIN. Nature is magnificent. Al Gore is a FUKWAD.

[daddy]

Hi GUS,

Carp@#$ I've got three hundred comments to read to catch-up, but Perry Mason is only half over and it's a good one tonight.

I think the perp may be Spock's Vulcan girlfriend:

[glasater]

Eldrick's game went to hell after his Dad passed away.

[aononamom]

DebinNC--are you the Deb who watched FOX news and called 911 on the shooter??

Thanks for your posts on Charleston.

I loved this story about the late black Jewish chief of police from your first link. Have to think his policing has played a key role in why there won't be any burning and looting there. It's pretty much like raising the kids, isn't it, or the dealing with the dogs--once they realize there will be consequences, most of the bad behavior stops:

Still, many in the community remained fiercely loyal, remembering Greenberg as the man who restored luster to a troubled department and kept order during the dark days after Hurricane Hugo.

Perhaps his most infamous quote came during the storm's immediate aftermath when he told the force not to show tolerance for looters.

"Don't arrest anybody. Beat 'em. We have nowhere to put them," he said. Some found it ironic that Greenberg died just days after Hugo's 25th anniversary.

[Beasts of England]

The Fox broadcast crew did better yesterday. If they'd just shut their yaps during the swings, I'd be happy. Tell us before about the club selection and then tell us after that 'he caught that one about a third of a groove thin', but let the viewers enjoy a lull during the shot - as we would in person - it's kinda the audible tempo of the game.

p.s., first world problems :)

[Jack The Transformer]

No TV at our B&B but what CBS and NBC have/had that Fox doesn't have yet is the "team comity" and "match ups" like a Feherty & McCord or a Maltbie & Miller with the repartee you become so use to watching.

It will come but Fox needs a regular line up of PGA not just USGA events and that is not likely in the near future.

Sill the course is doing a great job of the identifying the best and fittest players (and caddies).

[Jane]

Woke up at 5 - my new normal and saw some guy from the Blackosphere (whose name I don't know but who I really like) say that the killer a millenial, has been raised to believe nothing is worse than a white male, because of his privilege and all the other crap the left spouts, and maybe we should look at the impact of that on him.

I have no idea but it's something I think is just awful and worth looking at.

[jimmyk]

probably the hardest job is Mike Emrick who calls the NHL for NBC.

I never cease to be amazed at the hockey play-by-play guys. It's so fast-moving, even just to get the names right is remarkable. I would be "what's-is-name shoots, rebound by no. 24," and by then be half done.