Go, Carly!

Carly Fiorina takes to Buzzfeed to reach out to America's yutes on the topic of women in the workplace. Amy Miller of Legal Insurrection and Asche Schowe of the Washington Examiner have a problem with this, as does the InstaPundit. From Ms. Miller:

Carly is funny, engaging, and smart—but she used that power for evil. She walked into a young, modern, progressive venue, and threw her own womanhood under the bus in an effort to pander to a base that will never vote for her.

Fiorina has defined herself as a businesswoman, CEO, and force to be reckoned with; she should not have to—and should never (NEVER)—have to play into the hands of liberals who work every day to manufacture divides in our society.

This isn’t effective outreach; it’s Stockholm Syndrome.

Hmm. People won't listen to your solutions if they don't think you "get" the problem. And the divisions Ms. Fiorina exaggerates for comic effect haven't been "manufactured" - they are real.

Presumably Ms. Fiorina's message is yes, there are challenges, but I overcame them and so can you. Without a lot of progressive legislation.

Comments

[narciso]

so Donald reviewed himself to be a morsh, Russian for Walrus, but the overreach is very ivory,

stephen grey, of 'ghost plane' fame, interviewed 'curveball' as part of his chronicle of new spies,
and the BND, really is put at fault for this fustercluck, particular his first handler, a dr,
peter,

[rich@gmu]

lol ... pretty sure greed (in the Gordon Gecko sense) better explains Boyce and Snowden.

in re: Snowden he was probably useful in that he had physical access to infrastructure the Russians wanted to get into, not that he was particularly informed about programs. And that was probably a plus-he wasn't smart enough to understand the long term damage (or that he'd be easy to lead around).

he actually reminds me of the winners in The Running Man ...

... they were last seasons winners

No, they were last seasons losers.

[narciso]

he was mcclatchy's former israel correspondent so that explains something,

http://therightscoop.com/the-washington-post-has-cleared-the-chattanooga-murderer-of-charges-that-he-was-motivated-by-islam/

[sbw]

Noetics is recursive navel gazing -- trying so hard to know more than anyone else that you end up not knowing anything worthwhile.

[narciso]

and one thing is presumptuous, sarc,

http://www.weaselzippers.us/229527-kerry-on-iran-deal-it-would-be-presumptuous-to-go-to-congress-before-going-to-un/

[rich@gmu]

Miss Marple-

the "spying on US citizens" is part of the active measures part (an easily exploitable weak point in any of their programs and easily subject to abuse). One would think that Zero building his Free Shit Army database down to the centimeter would be more troubling to civil libertarians. Meyer had a good piece in the American Thinker a while back that clarified the issues for me ...

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2013/10/a_judgment_on_intelligence.html

the ic and le communities are bound by so many politically correct diktats that to get the information they need they have to vacuum up all matter of the trivial and irrelevant. A good judgment would be for the FBI to look at current college students that decide to undertake the hajj (a not inexpensive or unchallenging undertaking) and to build a database to look at them and their connections (especially their connections at school). Something like that would probably end careers even though it would be a useful tool (and might have vacuumed up the Chattanooga shooter).

[sbw]

rse: Laszlo . . . is very tied into both the UN system and the Club of Rome.

Oh. Only an apparatchik. A late comer to the plan?

[rse]

I think he has pretty consistently helped create the plans.

Lots of the books I have only show up as footnote references in something else confessional created before any controversy. I cross reference troubling points against the authority. When it is someone I know keeps cropping up I try to get it. By the time I write about anything I can hard copy prove my points.

What Lamar has done is try to force a particular implementation that should have been untraceable. But it tracked models I already have from decades before. Motto #1--with the function comes the intentions when I can track them.

[narciso]

we were told something about changing our history, our tradition:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/obama-praises-move-to-make-blessed-eid-a-national-holiday-on-same-day-as-chattanooga-terrorist-attacks/

[rich@gmu]

or more simply ... a return to federalism where a small federal government does its few enumerated powers well and states and communities figure out all the other stuff. We would need a much smaller government and they wouldn't need to be vacuuming up calls and internet traffic by the metric ton.

still stunned that on the heels of the OPM giveaway the Zero Administration is building his Free Shit Army database complete with all manner of financial data (wait until that is married to the OPM giveaway)... good grief.

[pagar]

http://www.examiner.com/article/sens-mccain-and-levin-urged-irs-to-target-tea-party-conservative-groups

Am I the last to hear this?

[narciso]

the bolsheviks were not in practice opposed to the okhrana, as the cheka showed, not the mullahs to the savak, as savama shows, it's who were the targets,

[narciso]

taheri points out how all us presidents since 1979, have been wrong about the mullahs,

[Frau Indianerherz]

Dare I declare the Chattanooga Five American martyrs?

[Sue]

James,

In my experience if you have a designated beneficiary, the cause of death on the certified death certificate doesn't void the insurance contract and all of the claims forms are properly filled out, the turn around on distribution of life insurance benefits is fairly quick, 4-6 weeks is probably the latter end of the timeframe.

[Sue]

I am not surprised to find out McCain was involved in targeting the TEA party. He hates us.

[narciso]

here is that piece,

http://nypost.com/2015/07/19/what-us-leaders-have-never-understood-about-iran/

he had previously explained how little support mossadegh, had except for the tudeh, sans ajax, the Russians would have likely deposed him in a few years, and they would likely have incurred the same result as their handpicked regime in afghanistan, would do, a generation later,

[narciso]

fwiw, here's an interesting snippet,

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/07/19/some-helpful-clues-for-tennessee-terror-attack-investigators-and-the-perplexed-media/

[rich@gmu]

pagar-

I've seen some things regarding Dems but not the GOPe or McCain specifically. First time I'd seen that article (it has an April 15 date).

It is unsurprising.

[sbw]

pagar: Am I the last to hear this?

Um. Yes.

[rich@gmu]

>>>Medicaid enrollment surges, stirs worry about state budgets...<<<

Good thing we've got the Chamber of Commerce GOPe to let us know how this is a good thing ...

...putting my self into a bad mood for the box of dicks waiting for me tomorrow. thinking that booze would be faster ...

[narciso]

the second part is particularly interesting,

Abdulazeez was upset about the 2014 Israeli bombing campaign in Gaza and the civil war in Syria, he said. “He felt Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia were not doing enough to help, and that they were heavily influenced by the United States.”

that doesn't sound crazy, in the view of the ummah,

[clarice]

Good piece, narciso.

[narciso]

you're welcome clarice, I actually met Poole, for a few moments at CPAC,

[maryrose]

Pagar
I had heard of Levins involvement which is why I think he decided to retire
Franken also heeded Obamas call but this is the first time I heard of McCain being involved

[Miss Marple]

I still am suspicious of that "fried" who said that Abdulaziz called himself the "Arabian Redneck."

I am especially suspicious of that because Andrea Mitchell was trying to develop that theme with one of his other friends.

"Did he go shooting? Did he go hunting? etc. etc."

[narciso]

the surprise is he actually used data for his calculation,

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/07/19/donald-trump-is-now-essentially-guaranteed-a-spot-on-the-debate-stage/

[narciso]

that was the first squirrel, that Andrea fell for,
so now they are going for 'the depression' one

[narciso]

I can see his beady little eyes now,

Steve Schmidt, who was senior adviser to McCain in the 2008 presidential campaign, says Trump’s GOP rivals and others in the party must step up and confront him. “What he represents has to be taken seriously. It has to be confronted seriously,” he said in a telephone interview. “It’s not just a cancer on the Republican Party and the conservative movement. It’s a cancer on our politics as a whole. . . . My personal view is that it ought to trigger a fight for the soul and heart of the Republican Party and the conservative movement.”

[narciso]

of course, the Balz piece, doesn't point out that 'Dr. Evil' is a Perry advisor,

[Miss Marple]

Steve Schmidt can go take a flying leap.

Also, I wish McCain would retire. I guess Cindy doesn't want him hanging around the house.

I repeat my oft-stated theory that the biggest problem we have with the GOP is the political consultants. And what's worse, in non-election years they are on TV spouting off with their opinions.

Bah.

[Steve]

Video - Martin O'Malley Apologizes For Saying White Lives Matter, All Lives Matter

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/07/martin-omalley-apologizes-for-saying.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Steve Schmidt crying for the souls of conservatives.
Concern troll of the year awards coming up?

[Miss Marple]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/why-do-you-keep-hearing-shut-up-and-dance-everywhere-you-go-heres-the-scientific-answer/2015/07/16/32c921f8-2655-11e5-b72c-2b7d516e1e0e_story.html?postshare=5111437355585881

This is actually a really interesting piece on the human mind's preference for repetition and familiarity.

[narciso]

can't say I've heard that one, no it'll be like an ear wig though,

[Sue]

My personal opinion if Trump is he is as big a narcissist as Obama. He and Geraldo both cause me to mute my tv or change the channel. If Trump is the nominee I'll have to sit this one out.

[Janet - I wish my family had a poncho]

Dennis Prager's speech at CUFI - 2015 (Christians United For Israel)

It is SO good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=501&v=Fqf9gTAp7RQ

I wish Prager would run for President.

[Frau Indianerherz]

Janet, Dennis Prager has said he feels he reaches more people through the radio and his other activities than he would in elected office.

[narciso]

yes, he's a shallow blowhard, he has one note, and he plays it sloppily, I would never vote for him, for his willingness to defame our effort in Iraq, circa 2007, mission accomplished,

[Frau Indianerherz]

Sue - Hillary! will complete BHO's grand plan for the country.

[narciso]

this Kevin Eder character has an interesting newsletter, market your candidate, idiot,

[Sue]

I can't believe with candidates like Walker, Rubio, Jindal, Fiorina, why are we wasting time on Trump?

[Kaylee]

"If Trump is the nominee I'll have to sit this one out. "

That's interesting. If anyone but Cruz or Trump is the nominee, our family will be sitting this one out. Either way, we cancel each other out.

[narciso]

this is what it comes down to,

http://nypost.com/2015/07/19/when-islamist-strike-never-blame-society/

[Sue]

Frau,

Trump isn't the answer. He is not a conservative. He helped Hilary get elected to the senate. He's a pompous windbag. I feel safe in saying I'll be voting in the next election. What I don't know is will Trump be Hilary's Ross Perot?

[maryrose]

Sue
Agreed
It is definitely the silly season I politics
Look at Bernie Sanders for Gods sake

[narciso]

not for more than a few minutes at a time, there was some snippet at a rally:

'we can't have tax cuts, while children are hungry in America;'

winning the future, this is the carp the nutroots feed on,

[Miss Marple]

The whole thing is that Trump spotted a weakness in all of the candidates regarding immigration and started blustering about it and went to the areas most concerned (California, Arizona, and Nevada.)

He washelped by the sad dath of that woman in San Francisco and also some relatives of other people who had had relatives murdered or killed in accidents.

This is a serious issue which he has hooked on to and a lot of people inexperienced in politics but totally upset at things latched onto him as someone who would tell the truth.

It isn't true, of course, and he is a blowhard but there are alot of angry people and he is pretty good at selling his brand.

I imagine he will lose support after his attack on McCain but the media is going to keep covering him until the debate, so we probably are going to have to deal with it.

I still say that they should have said "He has apoint if clumsily said" instead of calling him a moron andhis supporters stupid.

I notice they are on Twitter now enraged and attacking back, which is not good.

Perry would have done better to not take Steve Schmidt's advice. I can't believe he hired him.

[maryrose]

No one should sit out this most important election
We cannot I repeat cannot allow another morally bankrupt person Hillary to occupy the Oval Office
History will Obama to be the worst President ever and historians will be unable to justify how he ever attained the office
Our foreign policy is I the dumper

[Miss Marple]

maryrose,

I am with you. I will vote for whoever is the NOT HILLARY candidate, even if it ends up being that tub of lard Huckabee or the weasel Santorum.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Of course, Sue sitting out the 2016 election would have no effect. Texas would still go R.

People like myself or CH or narciso or Janet (and all others in those respective states) would have a bit more difficult decision to make, if we felt sitting out was a possibility.

[narciso]

today's new roundup was a special flavor of absurd, with a few exceptions, Cotton on Meet the Depressed, Needham on Rove News Now, there has been extreme denial of the situation, five servicemen are slain by a known wolf, the worse deal since Hudaibiya, is struck, and they pretend things are normal,

[maryrose]

Narciso
We are living in Bizarro world where nothing makes sense anymore
We have our last best chance in 2016 if our candidate is the right one who won't blow it when the pressure is on
Romney was correct about everything but the Media took him to task for daring to challenge the Emperor sans clothes

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

JOMers should check the transcript from today's Rove News Sunday because I couldn't stomach watching that gasbag Lurch and whoever that ugly retard was with him croaking out stupidity. Jane Harman needs to be locked in a burning building as well; what an appropriate head of the Woodrow Wilson center.

[narciso]

as for Carly, as long as she is not ratifying SJW pieties, I don't see the harm, occasionally folks at Legal Insurrection and even the Examiner, are too clever by half,

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Romney was a terrible candidate who was preferred by the MFM during the primaries for exactly that reason. The sooner the GOP apologists stop making excuses for him the better the chances of nominating somebody who can win, ie not Jeb.

[narciso]

she almost went 'norman the android;

http://therightscoop.com/abcs-martha-raddatz-panics-and-changes-subjects-when-kristol-mentions-white-lives-matter-debacle/

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I'm also not understanding the Carly pile on from people who are usually smarter than that. Maybe we're living through cursed times.

[DebinNC]

I imagine he will lose support after his attack on McCain

Not from the sizable portion of Republicans who despise McCain, which includes me.

[narciso]

there's lurch and frogger, standing by,

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/sec-kerry-we-never-said-anything-about-anytime-anywhere-inspections/

'when I said there was no cannibalism in the British navy, I only meant a little,'

[Miss Marple]

IS the Carly pile-on about her appearing on that Buzzfeed thing?

Seriously, doesn't anyone remember Nixon appearing on Laugh-In?

[Miss Marple]

DebinNC,

Yeah, I despise him too, but if he was going to be attacked I would rather it have been about his really odious recent stuff, like attacking the Tea Party, undermining W, his immigration policy, or his stupid Campaign Finance Reform thing.

[Sue]

I think we have such a wide range of wonderful candidates this time and I'm freaking out that Trump is anywhere near the top. He isn't a conservative. He's just not.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Raddatz's face lift almost got wrecked by her double take to Kristol's off the script comment. Glad to see him adding some integrity to a panel with Miss Bardahl and other B-listers.

[narciso]

OT, they had one of the Sunday morning segments about JMW Turner, an artist about half a century,
ahead of his time,

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/339669996867223018/

[Miss Marple]

Sue,

The people who support him don't care whether he is a conservative or not. They think he is an anti-politician who "tells the truth" and "won't put up with BS."

As I have said, two of my sisters are interested in him because they are upset about Obamacare, the economy, unemployment, and immigration. They are moderate types who do not know all of the ins and outs of politics, and are only recently converted to GOP. They will probably switch to someone else in a couple of months as they learn more.

Another group supporting Trump are the Millennials who aren't socialists but are concerned about jobs. They think Trump will improve the economy, although this is a forlorn hope.

And then there are the celebrity fans, who just like him because of The Apprentice.

What I want to see is how the other candidates handle him, and how they handle the press constantly asking about him.

[Sue]

Almost all of us were appalled that McCain was our candidate in 08. Until he picked Sarah. I wish Sarah had not campaigned for his reelection to his senate seat. I don't even think Trump knew what he said yesterday, it was do off the cuff and stupid. It wasnt until Sheryl's piece that he finally said yeah that's what happened. He had already doubled down and tried to clarify by then. I won't defend McCain on anything but his service and picking Sarah.

[narciso]

it seems like the only lives that matter, are 'Russell Bell's from the wire, Mayor Carcetti, should be the first to take issue with this, but he's as worthless, as New Coke,

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Needham summarized Trump's appeal very well with a summary of GOPe broken campaign promises. People don't like being lied to.

[Sue]

Jeff,

You are right. My vote will not matter if I sit out. But I also don't get to help pick the candidate. It's already decided by the time primary voting gets here.

[narciso]

at the time, she suspected but she couldn't affirmatively confirm McCain's part in her betrayal, the Jones memo had not appeared at this time, she doesn't seem willing to lift a finger at this moment,

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

McCain destroyed Palin's political future by enlisting her to perform CPR on his pathetic campaign. He did her, or us, no favors by that. As usual.

[Sue]

Capt'n,

I think he did what MM said. He tapped into the anger over illegal immigration. A lot of the people will leave him when they find out his positions on other things. At least I'm hoping that's how it plays out. The fact that he's even considering running as a 3rd party candidate if he isn't the republican candidate pisses me off.

[narciso]

the common point, is you have the same jackasses, like Dr, Evil or Ed Rollins, desiring to ignore the issues, while overplaying any wedge against the GOP,

it seems the Obergefell boomlet, was less than advertised,

[DebinNC]

MM, I don't consider any of the items you listed to be worse than McCain's failure to raise a loud and persistent alarm over the debacle that's gone on for years at the VA, the worst occurring in McCain's own Phoenix, AZ. For many years, McCain has basked in the glow of being a constant msm Sunday Shows darling, ostensibly because he was the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee and now Chairman. What could possibly be more venal than his total dereliction of duty to millions of vets suffering and dying here because care wasn't available?

[Miss Marple]

Sue,

That is the situation for me, too. Indiana's primary isn't until May.

I did give $25 to Carly Fiorina, because I wanted to encourage her. That is all I can afford with my finances in a turmoil.

I will probably give another $25 to whoever the candidate is in the general. So I really won't have much effect on anything.

I worry about my grandkids. I will make it ok, and maybe my children will, but a lot of this mess is going to affect them.

[Sue]

.....McCain destroyed Palin's political future by enlisting her to perform CPR on his pathetic campaign. He did her, or us, no favors by that. As usual.

Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPad | July 19, 2015 at 11:04 PM...

I think she destroyed her political career. But I'm happy she was savvy enough to get the last laugh and is set for life now.

[Miss Marple]

DebinNC,

You are right. That is the worst.

I don't think McCain really thinks anything through, nor does he work very hard. Hence the VA thing, because he's too busy being a talk show darling and meeting with donors and such. He ignores people who are actually his responsibility.

I saw him up close when I volunteered in the 2000 campaign. He is really short and not very personable.

[narciso]

let not ignore the fact, he had squirrelled away 27 million in his war chest, for that campaign,

[Sue]

We said all of this about him in 08. But we didn't say he want a war hero.

[narciso]

there's a whole lot of kabuki, trump pretends to care about immigration, although the cost of the pretense has been a little steep, domestically, maverick pretends to care about veterans, to figure out the medici, you need one of those oija boards,

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

We'll have to disagree on Palin, Sue, because McCain's Hail Mary act of choosing her exposed her prematurely to a press who was committed to destroying anyone in the path of 404. She might have self destructed anyway in the future, but at least it would have been on her terms and not by being stabbed in the back by McRINO's advisers.

[sbw]

If the Donald were the Republican candidate, or if he were to Ross Perot a Hillary campaign, in the absence of St. Janes, I’d have to wonder what other country might be more appealing for my retirement.

[Miss Marple]

Igo back to the same thing which bugs me.

Political consultants(Schmidt, Mike Murphy, etc.) are more concerned about fees and the next job rather than actually winning.

Pundits like Anne Coulter drop bombs in order to get attention for their upcoming books, and in the process produce needless controversy.

Pollsters like Frank Luntz are more concerned about proving themselves for future contracts.

Elected officials make a lot of their decisions based on the opinions of these types.

For all of these people politics is a business, a career opportunity, and sometimes a game of who's on top.

For those of us in the real world, it is our lives and those of our children. I am not wanting my grandson's future sacrificed in order for Steve Schmidt to get a fat paycheck and line up his next gig.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I'd pay money to have Deb grill McCain on one of the Sunday gab shows he is constantly drawn to.

[Sue]

Capt'n,

Ok. However I do agree that McCain stabbed her in the back.

[Miss Marple]

It really disturbs me that Perry hired Schmidt. It makes me question his judgement, and Perry was my fall-back guy if Fiorina or Walker didn't make it.

[narciso]

yes, Coulter has a decent researcher, but then she goes all neanderthal, in her press junkets, there's no need to spray that much buckshot in all directions,

[Miss Marple]

Time for me to shut down.

Nytol!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

This is the real Shut Up and Dance, not that WaPo mush; Pearl Harbor and the Explosions.

[rich@gmu]

Posted by: Frau Indianerherz | July 19, 2015 at 09:52 PM

can her handlers keep her off the bottle long enough to get her through the convention?

loading her onto Broom-3 hoping it doesn't go boom doesn't look like the best of plans.

Ma Hipflask's challenging questions so far::

Q: ... which [ice cream flavor] is your favorite.

A: I like nearly everything.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--If anyone but Cruz or Trump is the nominee, our family will be sitting this one out.--

That's like saying if anyone but Ronald Reagan or Grace Jones was the nominee in 1980 you would have sat it out.
One of those things is not like the other.

[narciso]

luntz, was the one who didn't get death panels, who finds those undecided voters on Nov 2, who probably took their cues from Lena Dunham,

[narciso]

I think doc brown, going to clip Red Queen's wings,
you need to focused incoherence to appeal to the peanut gallery,

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The only way any of the Dems currently running could possibly win in 2016 is if Trump 3rd parties the GOP.
Believe it.

[rich@gmu]

probably so narciso ... since he did such great things for Baltimore he'd get some good mileage out of the FSA database ...

... or Zero might not want to leave.

[rich@gmu]

far too confident Iggy. we're dealing with The Stupid Party.

[narciso]

stossel was interviewing the CEO of Carl's jr, (the ones' with the over the top cheese cake ads) and he was pointing out how it took 28 days to open a restaurant in Volodya's Siberia, and about 1o times as long in the People's republic of California!

[GUS]

One good thing about Trump running his Cake hole like a needy Prom Date, is that, we get to see which other GOP douchebags feel the need to self flagelate for the "UNDECIDED" vote. Trump is a side show, and he's not always wrong. Neither is a stopped clock.
Let's see which Repukes kneel down and apologize for The Donald.

[narciso]

here's some more turner landscapes,

http://www.getty.edu/art/exhibitions/turner/index.html

yes they beat themselves more than paul bettany in the davinci code,