Looks Like They Should Have Taken That Left Turn At Albuquerque

The hardworking team at BankRate has presented a list of the best and worst cities for retirement. Key criteria were "cost of living, crime rate (violent and property crimes), walkability, health care quality, state and local tax burden, personal well-being for seniors and weather".

And for bitter-clingers stuck to a particular region, they breakdown the results by region. So folks committed to the Northeast are presented with a variety of high-tax, poor weather choices. However, one ray of sunshine brightens our prospective golden years:

 

Albuquerque, New Mexico! That is lateral thinking, all right - several thousand miles worth. But you can't beat the low taxes and the weather, in the Northeast anyway.

Comments

[Dave (in MA)]

Screw walkability. That's one of those overrated New Urbanist criteria that basically means the place is hostile to automobile owners.

[Dave (in MA)]

And is there something about the border of Newton that causes Cambridge and Boston's weather to fall from Below average to Poor?

[Jack is Back!]

Does Janet agree that Arlington is the No. 2 city to retire in the south?

If you retire make sure you retire where there are no trolleys or plans for such.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2015/07/obama_nominates_former_mbta_head_scott_to_ntsb

Having seen the way she severely mismanaged an agency while at the same time took numerous taxpayer-funded vacations, how could Obama not offer her a job?

[Jack is Back!]

Dave,

I see the Peter Principle is alive and well in the Bay State as it is in most Blue Hells.

[Buckeye]

Seriously flawed study. No column for percentage of babes that are hawt.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Why would the crime rate be high in Albuquerque?
Can anyone think of any social phenomena which might cause it?

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Wretchard on the F 35, modern warfare and other things.

[neal]

Ah, Albuquerque. Back for twelve years, after looking for money, bugs, and bad weather back east. Us old farts still use Route 66.

Properly, in the mountains just outside that damned city.

Dinosaur bones, missions, reservations, Tatanka. When I drive into town, there are piles of rocks left over from when the Apache used to invade, before the cheesy hotels.

This is just low rent California for the retarded. Very attractive. What do I know, Florida sucks. This place is just not really part of the rest.

Mostly a lot of westerns still get filmed here. Dig down, there are layers of movie sets. Just retiring without retiring, and less madness in the outlands.

And the food.

[Jack is Back!]

For CH, from the 5-0-5 Downtown Cub

Kasich Update: Ohio Governor John Kasich announced he is running for president. During his speech he referred to Jesus Christ, which is ironic because so did Americans everywhere when they heard another Republican was running for president.

[DebinNC]

Philadelphia crime is "high", but walkability is "great". Your walk will be wonderful right up to the moment you're mugged and knocked senseless.

[George]

Ha,Ha very funny DebinNc, those of us from (near) Phillie know that a high grade in walkability also means that when you have to run for your life, your escape routes won't involve any arroyos (although in South Philly there will be some "yos").

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

A great writer and friend, Steve Bodio, lives not too far from Albuquerque in Magdalena. Flies his falcons and runs his coursers in the desert. Cool guy who I got know after reading his great book, Querencia, much of it about his late partner Betsy who died of cancer.

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

Spengler; not a fan of Trumpster.

[Janet S.]

2
city - Arlington/ Alexandria, VA
cost of living -Very high
crime - Very low
well being -Great
walkability - Great
taxes - Average
healthcare - Good
weather - Average

That gets you #2 in the South??

Dave has this exactly right - Screw walkability. That's one of those overrated New Urbanist criteria that basically means the place is hostile to automobile owners.

Even the walkability claim is only true in certain areas of Arlington. Not all of Arlington at all.

Who's gonna want to be walking everywhere when they are old anyway?

[Jack is Back!]

I like the fact that we are nowhere near the rankings. The last thing we need are more blue hell voters and drivers to our little piece of heavan on earth. Yet, it is the fastest growing county ih the USA. Go Figure.

[Jeff Dobbs]

The weather in Mesa/Phoenix is rated great, but the weather in Denver is good.

Subjectively speaking, that's nutz.

Oh, and Charlotte weather is rated average and Concord is below average.

Er, they're separated by maybe 20 miles.

[henry]

After Obama raids the 401ks, there will be no retirement.

[lyle]

Boyzee, ID ranks 88 in the west. Good, since I don't give a crap about these criteria.

[boatbuilder]

Why would the crime rate be high in Albuquerque?
Can anyone think of any social phenomena which might cause it?

Walter White?

[Rick Ballard]

I had no idea Omaha was in the South. Did it sneak out of the Midwest or did Albuquerque bump it as it headed for the Northeast?

The BankRate team may be hardworking but their data sorting and presentation offers no proof of the assertion.

[Janet S.]

walkability makes me think of the "green" livin' crap too, & that isn't so great for old people.

There was that NYT article (I think) that featured those 2 older people that were WORN OUT from lugging wood pellets around. They were having a hard time climbing on their roof to clean their solar panels too.

Here it is!- http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/garden/was-it-too-soon-to-be-sustainable.html?_r=0

"“I was an idiot and built a house that was way too complicated and labor-intensive,” said Mr. Brattstrom, also 78. “Only a masochist could enjoy it.”"

Walkability....yeah, right.

[GUS]

No boatbuilder, but WHITE is part of it.

[Extraneus]

Winston-Salem, NC: Great well-being, but high crime and taxes?

New Orleans, LA: Below average well-being, but average crime and very low taxes?

Hmmm.

[Neo]

Almost everything can be hacked, including sniper rifles
Though advanced, the weapons are not secure. Using a WiFi connection, Sandvik and Auger figured out how to reprogram the rifles scope, disable the ballistic computer and even prevent the weapon from firing. In one test, the couple tricked the onboard computer into believing a .4-ounce bullet weighed 72 pounds, throwing the reticle, and subsequently the shot, off significantly.

[Eric in Boise]

The weather in Mesa/Phoenix is rated great

But it's a dry heat, Jeff!

[Tom Maguire]

Screw walkability.

Well, my mom really can't drive herself anymore, so walkability is a big deal for her.

And is there something about the border of Newton that causes Cambridge and Boston's weather to fall from Below average to Poor?

Hmm. More hot air emanating from Cambridge?

[Jane]

"walkability"

Golf cartability.

[Threadkiller]

They should put "sanctuary city" in as a criteria.

[Tom Maguire]

Kasich Update: Ohio Governor John Kasich announced he is running for president. During his speech he referred to Jesus Christ, which is ironic because so did Americans everywhere when they heard another Republican was running for president.

OK, that's hilarious, and I say that as a quasi-Kasich supporter who thinks he is one more guy that could probably be an OK President but can never get nominated.

Being from Ohio would make him VP bait if the Reps nominate Carly (as if!, and darn it) or opt for the two boring white guys approach.

[Jeff Dobbs]

TM:
or opt for the two boring white guys approach.

Forget the Reps - the Trump-Sanders 3rd party ticket is going to be anything but boring but white as hell. Or white but anything but boring as hell.

One of the two. Or both. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

But hellish is in there somewhere.

[daddy]

Dave has this exactly right - Screw walkability. That's one of those overrated New Urbanist criteria

Exactly correct. The proper category should be:
Dog Walkability

If a person can't walk his dogs without having to have them on a leash, and without having to pick up their poops in plastic bags, then the place sux!

Call me when they do a survey that quantifies that.

[narciso]

Interesting times as it was a little over 150 years when we had four candidates in the race.

[Jane]

I'd truly prefer Newton to Cambridge and Boston, unless I lived near TC. I suspect Newton gets a little more snow because it's a couple of miles off the coast. AFAIC Cambridge is a joke.

[daddy]

Any of those 196 cities in that ranking tell their citizens that they're going to receive PFD checks over $2000 dollars for living there for 2015.

Well Anchorage did, and we ain't even on that list.

[Jeff Dobbs]

narciso:
Interesting times as it was a little over 150 years when we had four candidates in the race.

You're telling me. the 14th Republican to enter the race was Christie on June 30th. That does feel like 150 years ago.

(or if you include Dems, Jeb! was the 14th candidate overall to get in on Jun 15th, with O'Malley, Sanders and Hillary! getting in before him. that feels almost like more than 175 years ago)

((wait, is that not what you meant?))

[Captain Hate]

Being from Ohio would make him VP bait if the Reps nominate Carly

He'd be the anti-Palin; a sop to the RINOs with a mouth like a trap door. He probably would've done better than Ryan did against Biden because I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have taken Choo Choo Joe's mega retard act without firing back.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Uh oh - Marlene is caught in naughty bin hell.....after these two comments, a half dozen with just the word "test" trying to get past the typepad lair of doom.

So sorry, Marlene - nothing I can do. TM, if you're still around - would you consider promoting her comments?

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Marlene on Kindle now with internet at the cabin said:
YAY MM! Now open a Miller High Life!
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Marlene on Kindle now with internet at the cabin said:
We're waiting for the daughter and son-in-law to arrive. They are headed up north tomorrow for her high school class reunion.We are going to dog sit their dog,should be fun,ha.Our terrier has an attitude,but their dog does not tolerate his attitude. Hey! Jane,caro,MM...you never told us if daddy looks like Terry Bradshaw. :)
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[boatbuilder]

Daddy--I don't think that bears were included in the walkability criteria. Even so, somehow Anchorage didn't get on the list.

[narciso]

Howdy sooty is as exciting as...sorry dosed off there, conviction in party principles are not rewarded that is the lesson of the huntress I fear. That why she's gone honey badger in support of donald, because they have proven Shirley they can't be serious.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://uproxx.com/sports/2015/07/red-sox-puking-fan/

In the guy's defense, the Dominican national anthem was pretty bad.

[narciso]

Those spunky Syrian rebels have fallen into the hands of the nusra front

[narciso]

What happens in Portland seems to stay in Portland.

[new lurker]

I am fed up with Romney! He lost and is a loser, and yet he thinks he can tell Ted Cruz what to say! Amazing.

[daddy]

Barnacles.

Commentary on the airplane Flap has now turned to "Cosmopolitan" Barnacles to unravel the mystery.

Gretta: I assume that barnacles take a time to grow, and would the growth of these barnacles be somehow, uhhh, you know, tell us the timeframe whether this would go back to a crash sometime in March of 2014 for instance?

Barnacle Expert: It's possible. There are over 219 species of this particular kind of barnacle, so it's difficult to tell from images that I've seen. Generally these barnacles, once they find a suitable home, will metamorphosize in about a month, and in about a year will become the size of the barnacles that we are seeing on the debris. But the debris has been in the water for 17 months. We're looking at one generation, perhaps 2, and it would take a bit more careful examination to find out exactly how long they've been on that surface, but it's entirely possible that that was part of that aircraft.

Gretta: I take it that Barnacles are all over the region, so they're not native to one particular area of the ocean, so that it would in no way give us some, would limit the debris field, is that a fair... is that true?

Barnacle Expert: Well, that's true but remember, Barnacles are part of a larger community, There's a lot of other marine organisms that we can't see, so a careful examination with so little information available, uhhh, we need to look at this rather closely. There may be other clues in the biology and the ecology of the system that might yield some more answers. From the barnacles alone it's very difficult to tell because they have a Cosmopolitan distribution.

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I mention this of course because Mark Twain mentioned barnacles, and so did Charles Darwin, who spent the decade prior to writing Origin Of Species in becoming the worlds leading expert on extant and extinct Barnacles.

Twain mentioned the oyster as an example of his and his professions (Journalism) indifference to the truth:

Mark Twain: "I shall tell the truth as nearly as I can and quite as nearly as any newspaperman can. The nonsense with which I shall embellish it will not detract from it's usefulness; that will be but as the barnacle to the oyster. I don't know ---sotto voce---whether the barnacle does stick to the oyster or the oyster to the barnacle."

He just didn't care:(

Darwin on the other hand did, being more concerned about which stuck to which than any human on earth, so after 10 years of study and the writing of 4 books on Barnacles to unravel that mystery, he commented in a letter on the cost to him personally of learning that great truth:

Charles Darwin: "I hate a Barnacle as no man ever did before."

:)

[Miss Marple]

Jeff,

Yes, daddy does look like Terry Bradshaw, only better!

[narciso]

Reminded me of the python sketch about the mollusks

[new lurker]

Well, I thought Greta would cover the airplane, but I had no idea that she would give it non-stop coverage like CNN. Pitiful.

[Miss Marple]

In my opinion, stay away from those "walkability cities" as they will try to catch and destroy old people as they walk around.

http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/07/americans-are-living-longer-what-if-thats-a-disaster-000144

[Miss Marple]

Finally, a democrat does something useful:

http://thehill.com/regulation/249788-bill-would-end-usp-ban-on-shipping-booze

This is important to me because you are not allowed to use recycled liquor or beer cartons for shipping. These are often the exact size I need, and it would save me a LOT of money if I could use those cartons.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Just to be clear, that was Marlene asking about daddy looking like Bradshaw...

[narciso]

Pence otoh has proved himself useless again,

[Jeff Dobbs]

I spent my first two years in college at a small school in Oklahoma so I could play baseball on scholarship. One Saturday I got bored and decided I was gonna start driving west on I-40.

And so I did. I decided I wanted to make it to Albuquerque. I didn't make it there. I did make it to Amarillo. Ended up spending the night parked in a church parking lot. It was winter, and it was cold. I didn't sleep much, and would start the car every 45 minutes or so to get the heat going.

Next day, I started heading back. Pulled off the interstate at some state park and figured I drive to their restrooms. Took a leak, came back out and . . . vehicle wouldn't start. There was a ranger's home just up the road. I went and knocked on his door. It was about 7AM on Sunday. He was nice, got in his truck and gave me a jump.

I can't remember where that was, but I'm pretty sure I was back in Oklahoma by then.

Made my way back. Funny thing is, I don't really have many regrets in life - but not making it to Albuquerque on that trip is one of them for some reason.

I'm not sure exactly why.

[Miss Marple]

What has he done, narciso?

I have been gone most of today and haven't heard.

[daddy]

Levin had a Doctor call in today who tried to defend the PP use of Fetal parts by telling Levin how important these parts were in making better drugs and new medicine breakthroughs for cancer etc. Levin asked him to cite a single specific example of fetal tissue leading to such a breakthrough, so that Levin could look it up. The Doctor couldn't name one. He did say that he was driving in his car and unable to look it up. It was decent radio.

Levin seriously wanted to know.

On a 2nd point, since the PP center in Houston makes $120,000 a month in the sale of fetal tissue, which it lists as "Handling Fees", I wonder if someone could offer the center a free market alternative to that $120,000 handling fee, and maybe do it for $119,000 or so less?

I wish Anonomom would show up and tell us if a $120,000 Handling Fee is sensible or nuts.

[Miss Marple]

By the way, I see that Indianapolis is on the bottom of the list for the Midwest.

Good.

Crime rate is high due to inner city. If you aren't living there, you would not notice.

[daddy]

but not making it to Albuquerque on that trip is one of them for some reason.

I'm not sure exactly why.

Whatever you do Jeff, don't ask Glen Campbell:

By the time I make Albuquerque
She'll be working
She'll probably stop at lunch,
And give me a call
But she'll just hear that phone keep on ringing
Off the wall, that's all

By the time I make Oklahoma
She'll be sleeping
She'll turn softly and call my name out low
And she'll cry, just to think, I'd really leave her
Though time and time I've tried to tell her so
She just didn't know,
I would really go

[Jack is Back!]

Back from Red Stix an upscale hip Hampton's Chinese joint in Water Mill where all the young ladies who take you to your tabel are from Moscow.

I told them I was a friend of Vlad and got a free cocktail but it had a leaf of hemlock in it.

[Jim Miller]

From what I could tell from the NYT article I link to, for better mental health, you don't want walkable cities; you want walkable suburbs, or exurbs, or even rural areas.

(BTW, as is probably clear from that post, I would really, really like to see some data from the studies Reynolds mentions.)

[Jane on Ipad]

Marlene,

Yes but more fun, if you can imagine it. (If you were on Facebook you could see for yourself)

[Jeff Dobbs]

Jane:If you were on Facebook you could see for yourself

Let's put a little marketing effort into this: If you were on facebook you could see daddy taking a dump on Caro's boat while posting to JOM on his phone.

[Threadkiller]

If I was on Facebook I would see a dump being taken on me.

[jimmyk]

if a $120,000 Handling Fee is sensible or nuts.

Guessing those "handling fees" are like the ones you see on TV where they offer something for free, you only pay a (generally unspecified) "shipping and handling" fee, which usually if you find out about it is likely more than the wholesale cost of the product.

PP keeps claiming the fees are only to cover "costs," but it would be interesting to see them try to document those costs.

[Threadkiller]

Made myself laugh.

:-)

[Jim Miller]

Dave - That MBTA lady reminds me of Ron Sims, who was King County executive out here. (King County includes Seattle, most of the Seattle suburbs, and a fair amount of rural area.)

Sims is a pleasant fellow, unlike many Democrats, but -- let me say this gently -- not the best manager in the world.

So, it was almost inevitable that Obama would put him in some position where he could do more damage.

(For those who are unfamiliar with the gentleman: Sims does have a better natural tan than I do.)

[narciso]

There are a bunch of error in that bankrate survey not as bad as a pop poll but close.

Megyn will be interviewing Donald on monday,

[lyle]

Daddy beat me to the allusion to Glen Campbell singing "By The Time I Get To Phoenix" with Jeff's 9:08. One of Jimmy Webb's greatest songs. Truly gifted songwriter.

[narciso]

Well since ntsb has done a bang up job recently.

[Miss Marple]

Some guy posted this on Twitter and said "it was too good to fact check." My son flew home from West Berlin like this in 1969! HA!

[lyle]

I'm pretty sure Webb never tried to rhyme "dump." ;)

[Miss Marple]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2015/07/30/brutal-tom-cotton-grills-kerry-on-iran-deal-n2032057?utm_source=hefbp&utm_medium=fbpage&utm_campaign=heupdate

Good job, Senator Cotton!

[Steve]

4th Planned Parenthood Video Released - VP agrees fetus may come out intact

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/07/4th-planned-parenthood-video-released.html

[clarice]

Northeast, Southwest..picky picky, TM.

[daddy]

Wish I was a Barnacle.

[Miss Marple]

Puts a new meaning to "Barnacle Bill the Sailor."

[sbw]

I don't really have many regrets in life - but not making it to Albuquerque on that trip is one of them

I don't really have many regrets in life - but making it to Amarillo in the dead of winter and sleeping overnight in the back of a VW Microbus at 40 below is one of them.

[narciso]

Re the f 35, didn't they have similar problems with the f 18 back in the 80s

[Miss Marple]

Time for bed.

Nytol!

[narciso]

Robert Spencer points up another flag on Donald re recent events in texas

[daddy]

Nite Miss M.

Looking forward to meeting Nate! Cheerio!

[Cecil Turner]

Wretchard on the F 35, modern warfare and other things.

He and most of his commenters are clueless on the subject. The F35 is not a replacement for the F-15 and F-22, it's a replacement for the F-16 and AV8B. It's an attack plane, not an air superiority fighter. As long as it can make itself reasonably difficult to shoot down, nobody cares whether it dogfights worth a crap . . . not it's job. The Air Force decided long ago "A" designators were uncool, which is part of the problem identifying what the thing is supposed to be used for. But we need a whole lot more bombers than fighters.

In that vein, here's an old motivational video popular at Red Flag/Green Flag. Catch phrase: McDonnell Douglas Phantom II supersonic all-weather fighter bomber . . . mostly bomber. Bottom line: as long as it can hit a ground target when and where it's supposed to . . .

[Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Ignatz]

--He and most of his commenters are clueless on the subject....As long as it can make itself reasonably difficult to shoot down, nobody cares whether it dogfights worth a crap . . . not it's job.--

Didn't read most of the comments but the gist of the article seemed to be questioning whether it made any difference whether it can dogfight.

[Cecil Turner]

Didn't read most of the comments but the gist of the article seemed to be questioning whether it made any difference whether it can dogfight.

I was too generic in terminology. Yes, he argues the importance of basic fighter maneuvering, but only in the sense of air-to-air engagements, whilst the F35 mission is almost entirely air-to-ground. He's kinda getting around to the right answer (i.e., that's not the metric), but the argument is much simpler than the one he's making. It's not BVR, directed energy, or mothership . . . the bomber is supposed to bomb, not fight.

[boatbuilder]

"Charles Darwin: "I hate a Barnacle as no man ever did before.""

And he never even met Mike.

[Man Tran]

Re the Amarillo bit, I left Phoenix the summer of '72 in my 240Z heading to Cowlumbus. Planned a sleep break in Amarillo, but after that much driving I spent about four hours staring at the motel ceiling and got up and kept on driving. I finally felt groggy enough somewhere out on the Plains that I stretched out on a concrete picnic table at a rest area for a short snooze. Made it to Cowlumbus in about 34 hrs counting the 4 hrs in Amarillo. That was in the era of Gurney doing it coast to coast in a Ferrari in about the same time (with a co-driver).

[Man Tran]

Huh. Just realized that I repeated that trip about 15 yrs ago in my bird non-stop. Took about 7hrs with a pretty good tailwind. That was before I bolted the turbine on, which gained considerable speed at the expense of range.

[daddy]

And he never even met Mike.

LOL, Boat:)

[DrJ]

Off.

[anonamom]

daddy, that PP you mentioned makes $6000 each weekday each month to generate that $120,000, if I am doing that high level math correctly.

I know absolutely nothing about killing babies for their parts--in my state, it is still legal for me to decline to participate in murdering babies based on my religious beliefs, but who knows for how long--but it seems to me that getting $6000 a day for picking out the liver and hearts and kidneys putting them in some kind of container and mailing them is rather outstanding compensation.

This weekend, I hope somebody will bring me up to date with what has transpired since June 26th.
I have never ever in my conscious life been so out of the current event scene. Not to mention all the JOM news.

[daddy]

Anonamom,

I heard that $120,000 figure yesterday on the Dana Loesch Radio Show. It apparently comes from a former Texas PP Clinic Director who testified to that figure to the Texas legislature. The Federalist includes it in this writeup (Item 7): 10 Quick, Important Developments On The Planned Parenthood Scandal

The hearing did feature testimony from Abby Johnson, a former Planned Parenthood clinic director, who discussed how her clinic harvested organs from the children aborted at her clinic. She said her clinic received $200 per specimen. She claimed that costs for such harvesting were minimal (only $5-$10 per specimen, by her telling) and that the Houston Planned Parenthood clinic, if it charged only $100 per specimen and if only half of the women seeking abortions each day consented to donations, would generate $120,000/month selling baby parts. This claim somehow didn’t make it into mainstream news accounts of the hearing here, here, here or any where else. You can listen to it here at two hours and thirty minutes into the hearing.

She also discussed some of it here: EMPLOYEES RECEIVED BONUSES FOR HARVESTING ORGANS, SAYS FORMER HOUSTON PLANNED PARENTHOOD DIRECTOR!

[daddy]

Well we know we can't drill up here, and we know we can't mine up here, and now we learn we can't log up here:

Federal court blocks logging in largest national forest, Alaska officials fuming.

Other than that though, we liked the ruling just about as much as Mrs Lincoln liked the play.

[jojo]

the you tube

Donald Trump Teases a President Bid During a 1988 Oprah Show | The Oprah Winfrey Show | OWN

is a must see

[pagar]

Jim Miller @09:38 Well Said. No one seems to realize the damage that is still to come from HUD.

[Jeff Dobbs]

sbw:
I don't really have many regrets in life - but making it to Amarillo in the dead of winter and sleeping overnight in the back of a VW Microbus at 40 below is one of them.

Hah! My vehicle at the time was my parents' conversion van. I went off to school saying no way would I drive that. After a month of not having a car, I came back saying please let me have the van. I need wheels!

My overnight stay in Amarillo in the dead of winter was more like upper teens.

When I got back to my sleepy college town, instead of going back to my campus apartment, I went over to a girl's off campus apartment. The cold front had really moved through. We got maybe a foot of snow - and then it was below zero for a good, solid week.

She had to go to class the next day, and when I went to leave (I slept on the couch, I swear) the van wouldn't start. So I had to walk the three miles back to campus in the sub zero temps.

But it was a dry cold!

My roommate was a black guy from San Diego. It was his first time ever seeing snow. Kinda like when he got to town - it was his first time ever seeing a cow.

[Miss Marple]

http://www.economist.com/news/china/21660262-beijing-will-stage-winter-games-desert-china-gets-2022-winter-olympics

In the Gobi Desert. I am not making this up.

[Jack is Back!]

Blue moon tonight.

[Miss Marple]

Documents still under seal from the raid which killed bin Laden show that Iran had working relationships with al Qaeda. The Weekly Standard has info from 6 different intel people.

Bin laden was killed in 2011, and those documents were put under top secret classification immediately afterwards. This indicates to me that the administration so much wanted a deal with Iran they clamped down on this info so that the public would not get outraged.

And that means that as I have said all along, the point of all of this negotiating was not to do something about the nuclear program. The point was to provide some sort of excuse for lifting the sanctions, and the only reason it took so long was they had to figure out a way to do it without doing anything to curtail Iran's activities.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/demand-documents_1001576.html#

[Jane]

Anonamom, you have been missed. I hope all is alright.

Jib, could you remind us tonite?

DWS can't explain the difference between a democrat and a socialist.

[Captain Hate]

Thanks for linking that, Miss Marple. Hayes and Kristol are correct: Congress has to demand that all those papers be reviewed before voting on that already crummy deal so that the commiecrats have no wiggle room on mischaracterizing just how bad the behavior is that the deal would enable. Let the dimwits use assholes and shitheads like Jack Black and Morgan Freeman to spew lying propaganda about just what this is about. By demanding these documents and getting access, they could even overcome the nonsense that Corker, McCain and the other worthless RINOs have shackled themselves with.

[Miss Marple]

Captain Hate,

I go back to the fact that even CHER thinks this is a terrible deal.

Anyone who was a teen or older in 1979 remembers those nutcases and how untrustworthy they are. The ONLY reason those hostages were released is because they knew Reagan would bomb Tehran into the Stone Age.