Showman, provacateur, and Presidential pretender Donald trump goes out of bounds while trolling for protest and anti-Washington votes:
AMES, Iowa -- Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump slammed Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a decorated Vietnam War veteran, on Saturday by saying McCain was not a war hero because he was captured by the North Vietnamese.
"He's not a war hero," Trump said. Sarcastically, Trump quipped, "He's a war hero because he was captured." Then, he added, "I like people that weren't captured."
People howled, as well they might. With attention back where he wants it, Trump then shifted gears:
Donald Trump accused Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) of being "all talk, no action" on veterans issues on Saturday as he sought to clarify his dismissive words toward McCain earlier in the day.
"I am not a fan of John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA," Trump said in a statement released by his campaign.
"He is yet another all talk, no action politician who spends too much time on television and not enough time doing his job and helping the Vets," Trump continued. "He is also allowing our military to decrease substantially in size and strength, somethings which should never be allowed to happen."
Trump said in his statement that McCain has been "extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came out to listen to me speak about illegal immigration by calling them 'crazies.'
"These were not 'crazies' --- these were great American citizens," Trump said.
McCain might want to at least feign respect for the citizens he represents. And quoting AllahP here, "To think, there are conservatives out there in America today who are convinced their party’s elder statesmen view them with contempt."
The feeling seems to be mutual.
MUCH LATER: Sharyl Attkisson questions the WaPo version.
This is yuuuuuuge!
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 04:18 PM
http://www.c-span.org/video/?327045-1/2015-family-leadership-summit&live
At about the one hour mark you will hear the Luntzer going berserker on war hero gobbledygook. As Trump answers Luntz goes off the deep end.
I wonder how many of the 15,000 crazies that saw Trump in Phoenix were veterans. Maybe a hero or two in the crowd McCain insulted?
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 04:23 PM
McCain - a war hero but a horrible public official.
The King of Crass - just a horrible human being. His egomania is worse than King Three Putt's.
Posted by: Johns_Creek_Bill | July 18, 2015 at 04:24 PM
it was his Yeargh moment, 'I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you,
Posted by: narciso | July 18, 2015 at 04:27 PM
well that's reassuring I was worried for a bit,
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/07/kerry-iran-not-allowed-to-use-windfall-cash-to-support-terrorism.php
Posted by: narciso | July 18, 2015 at 04:34 PM
LOL narciso. That cash won't free up other cash, nosiree. He kept his hat but left his brain in the sun too long.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 04:49 PM
If you go around the web reading comments, I suspect Trump will only lose a point or two. His supporters are doubling down.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 04:50 PM
Probably because his supporters watched the whole segment.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 04:54 PM
Which explains why Trump is explaining himself. The only place I've seen your excuse is here. They aren't looking for excuses.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 04:55 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!!! Dempsey. U.S. 1. Cuba 0
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:10 PM
The "whole segment" does not vindicate nor excuse Trump in the slightest.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 05:11 PM
Internecine bloodletting pat. pending
Posted by: MarkO | July 18, 2015 at 05:13 PM
Complete vindication? So it is a purity test.
Luntz needed to shut up. Trump succeeded.
When do we check biographies of the 15,000 "crazies?"
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:15 PM
Who is "they," sue?
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:16 PM
Worse, it pushes the net roots bloodletting off the headlines.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:16 PM
Trump is running for the position of "Shutting Luntz Up".
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 05:17 PM
Rush Limbaugh: Seven Years Ago It Was Parody, Today It’s the News (VIDEO)
http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/07/rush-limbaugh-seven-years-ago-it-was.html
Posted by: Steve | July 18, 2015 at 05:18 PM
"In the slightest" means purity or bust.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 05:20 PM
Trump has won that position.
Luntz had no business acting like Andrea Mitchell in a Palin style ambush.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:20 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!! Zardes. U.S. 2 Cuba 0
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:21 PM
I didn't know vindication had levels.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:22 PM
You should have. It's pretty basic to politics.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 05:24 PM
:-)
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:25 PM
This will help. Yeah, insult Romney while you're at it.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:29 PM
Donald J. Trump–Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Why would anybody listen to @MittRomney? He lost an election that should have easily been won against Obama. By the way,so did John McCain!
1:46 PM - 18 Jul 2015
677 RETWEETS 1,091 FAVORITES
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:31 PM
Mitt answer So.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:33 PM
Can we agree to employ the Donald argument when he loses the nomination: We Never Have To Listen To Him Again.
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 05:33 PM
My second Michael Oren post is up. It has an amazing Obama quote that I had missed, or forgotten.
(My apologies for going off topic so soon, but I figure the previous thread is dead.)
Posted by: Jim Miller | July 18, 2015 at 05:33 PM
Asking about govt employeees.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/tech/how-a-federal-employee-with-fake-diplomas-worked-at-the-department-of-the-interior-for-five-years-20150715
"Ahmed told investigators that the only formal education he ever received was at the Harvard Kennedy School, a program he attended after joining Interior and which the government paid for."
"An internal newsletter from 2011, published in response to a Freedom of Information Act request, announced that Ahmed completed the Harvard Senior Executive Fellows Program and returned to his job at the department from on May 15, 2011.
The program's website shows that the tuition for a session is $21,200."
Posted by: pagar | July 18, 2015 at 05:33 PM
While I didn't too much care for Rick's specific comment re MM and Trump earlier we do seem to be at the the point where the world is sitting atop Trump's back.
What's holding Trump up?
It's Teh Donalds all the way down.
Wake me when it aint.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 05:34 PM
I'm going to slide into a lurking mode.
There are people here that I do not wish to agitate. This whole Trump business is going to bust a lot of friendships. Unfortunately.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 05:34 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!!! Johannsson. U.S. 3 Cuba 0
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:39 PM
Ignatz,
You never know, Donald Kardashian may yet bite the head off a live Democrat, as per TM's title. I suppose we could discuss the merits of Jojo the Dog Faced Boy or the ease with which tickets to the Egress can be purchased while we wait.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 18, 2015 at 05:41 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!!! Gonzalez US 4. Cuba 0
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 05:52 PM
Hill headline: Trump calls off his bet with MSNBC host
Those words you're using...: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/248297-trump-calls-off-his-bet-with-msnbc-host
Posted by: Strawman Cometh | July 18, 2015 at 06:03 PM
Trump called off his bet after O'Donnell cried "no mas". The Hill headline is misleading, of course.
Posted by: DebinNC | July 18, 2015 at 06:07 PM
nenry - It's nice to see that the teams are color coded correctly, reds against whites.
(And, of course, that the reds are losing.)
Posted by: Jim Miller | July 18, 2015 at 06:13 PM
should I go with "I misplaced my sarc tag" or "no shit" or
Posted by: Strawman Cometh | July 18, 2015 at 06:14 PM
I think Trump is currently providing a useful service by giving us the opportunity to gauge the reaction to his antics by the other candidates. So far, Scott Walker is doing great. The only thing I've seen from him re the latest is "John McCain is a hero." That's it, and that's enough. One reason McCain lost was that in the last months he was angry and sputtering, while BOzo was cool and calm. Jeff Greenfield wrote an apt piece about it, noting that Bugs Bunny always beat Yosemite Sam. Trump is allowing us a chance to discover the Yosemite Sams in our group before the primaries.
Posted by: DebinNC | July 18, 2015 at 06:21 PM
Jim, the diversity of US goal scorers was nicely done.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 06:21 PM
Pure and simple. Cuba sucks. Obama swallows.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:25 PM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAL DEMPSEY!!!!!!
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:27 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!! Dempsey pK. U.S. 5 Cuba 0
Gus, 4 Cuban starters defected before this game. : )
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 06:28 PM
I doubt I could cross the line and vote Republican. I have tremendous respect for McCain but I don’t buy the war hero thing. Anybody can be captured. I thought the idea was to capture them. As far as I’m concerned he sat out the war...Al Franken
http://www.salon.com/2000/01/10/voices/
Great minds!
Posted by: Rocco | July 18, 2015 at 06:29 PM
Why Henry?? Why would they leave such a lovely shit hole.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:31 PM
GUS!
How do you keep all of your guitars humidified in the winter?
Posted by: Extraneus | July 18, 2015 at 06:33 PM
Cuba looks like shyte. I mean they look awful.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:33 PM
I await Rick telling Mr. McGuire he is a Trump supporter in disguise.
Posted by: Miss Marple | July 18, 2015 at 06:34 PM
Lack of cigars in the locker room?
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 06:34 PM
henry - That reminds me of this old Cold War joke:
What do you call a Polish orchestra after it has comes back from touring the West?
A quartet.
Posted by: Jim Miller | July 18, 2015 at 06:36 PM
I humidify my music room, I have a grand piano, and I keep many guitars in hard shell cases.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:36 PM
Holy shit 5 to nil. Who did Cuba beat? Cuz they must suck worse than Donald Trump on a three day bender...
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 06:36 PM
Omalley has apologized for saying all lives matter. For reals.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 06:37 PM
I don't like Trump. I DO LIKE TRUMP PISSING all over the GOP establishment. Especially smug MOTHERFUCKERS like McCAIN.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:39 PM
Dempsey hat trick.
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 06:41 PM
DEMPSEY AGAIN
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:41 PM
GOOOOAALLL!!!!! Dempsey ha trick. U.S. 6 Cuba 0
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 06:41 PM
Could Major Garrett ask Zero if he knew any reason why Cubans would defect from a great socialist workers paradise? Hillary same question, if they can get her to put down the scotch bottle long enough to answer...
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 06:44 PM
Why the need for the Cuban players to defect from their workers paradise since relations have been normalized? Maybe they're coming to get car parts for that show I've seen about Cuban mechanics.
As far as McCain goes, Vietnam war-hero, post-Vietnam- not so much.
Posted by: Gentlejim | July 18, 2015 at 06:46 PM
Why would we allow them to defect? And by we I mean Obama's administration? Wouldn't it jeopardize their friendship with the Castros?
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 06:51 PM
F McCain and the plane the dummy crashed in on.
Posted by: Ho Chi Mean | July 18, 2015 at 06:55 PM
Ooooooh that Cuban player asked for Dempsey's Jersey.
30 DAYS IN THE COOLER FOR HIM, when he gets back to CUBANISTAN!!!
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 06:57 PM
How could Obama say no to dreamers Cubanos?
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 06:57 PM
Most of you know this already, but I didn't, so I'll post it here for others who share my ignorance:
CONCACAF = "Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football"
Posted by: Jim Miller | July 18, 2015 at 06:58 PM
Jim:
CONCACAF = "Confederation of North, Central American and Caribbean Association Football"
All I see is
CON
CACA
F
Which is Spanish would mean something like.......
Posted by: Jeff Dobbs | July 18, 2015 at 07:02 PM
Sue,
The Cuban Adjustment Act is still in force and gives Cuban refugees permanent resident status beginning one year after their "dry feet" arrival in the US.
I suppose BOzo could flout this law as readily as he does others but it's still in force and well known by Cubans.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 18, 2015 at 07:04 PM
Concacaf = slightly less corrupt than some of the other regions of FIFA. See also Seth Blather
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 07:04 PM
Rick,
They better hurry and get here. Obama might just now be hearing of that law. He reads newspapers you know.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:07 PM
Right. The problem for Zero is he does not have enough "flexibility" with established law. Dry foot arrival means you have dominoed. Its still an opportunity to embarass Zero and the socialists...
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 07:07 PM
Sue,
There are already calls for repeal and Cubans may well be "hurrying" to get out of the gulag while the door is still open.
I don't give repeal much of a chance of passage but hellhole inhabitants may weigh risks quite differently.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 18, 2015 at 07:13 PM
He reads newspapers you know.
Dont forget he has a pen and a phone...
Posted by: GMax | July 18, 2015 at 07:14 PM
Brand new ones, too. Ayatollah Rohani has all the old ones plus cuff links and a year's supply of US flags to burn.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | July 18, 2015 at 07:18 PM
Watching baseball game and its throwback to 80s for some asinine reason. I don't know whose uniforms are uglier. The Rangers or the Astros. Gak!
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:18 PM
Sue and Rick - A month or so ago, I read that the better Cuban baseball players had millions of reasons to get out now, because now they can sign as free agents -- but at some point, they will be in the draft, instead.
I have no idea whether soccer has similar rules.
Posted by: Jim Miller | July 18, 2015 at 07:19 PM
Barry locks up 1,000,000+ acres in new Nat Monuments.
Very familiar with the CA one. Nothing special and no good reason to lock it up. Period.
Slightly familiar with the NV one. Ditto.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 07:26 PM
I'm sure MLB and the NFL are already selecting sites for their new Stadiums in Cuba.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 07:27 PM
Send them the Bucks. Add Castro skulls to Walker's pile.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 07:30 PM
I don't know much about soccer. Period.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:30 PM
Sue, fit guys in shorts.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 07:31 PM
War "hero", John Mccain, Exposed By Vietnam Vets And Pow's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hr37eE0nO8&feature=youtu.be
Posted by: Hotel Security | July 18, 2015 at 07:36 PM
:::grin::
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:36 PM
All lives, Hater.
Posted by: Energy equals matter times the speed of hypocrisy squared. | July 18, 2015 at 07:43 PM
Walker is a spineless little bitch (and he seems to have a bald spot).
""He needs to apologize to Senator McCain and all the other men and women who have worn the uniform," Walker told reporters following a campaign stop in Sioux City. "It's just a disgrace.""
http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/scott-walker-takes-on-donald-trump-b99540393z1-316915081.html
My 2016 vote:
1) Cruz
2) Trump
3) Sit it out
(by the way, it is not that difficult to pass what you want when your party controls both houses in your state).
Posted by: Cheese Sped | July 18, 2015 at 07:44 PM
Wow cheese, you should have gotten here sooner. You would have had a friendly face in the crowd, so to speak. Alas, he went on a self imposed sabbatical.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:50 PM
Anthony Kennedy's foolish legal opinions threw this debacle wide open. http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/07/18/obama-administrations-racial-database-contains-your-personal-information/
This fits with the language I am seeing out of federal agencies and their declaring of rights without a statutory basis.
Posted by: rse | July 18, 2015 at 07:53 PM
He went lurking, dipshit.
Posted by: Threadkiller | July 18, 2015 at 07:53 PM
Trump is recycling Al Franken's jokes, his main political skill is stepping on his own anatomy. Granted his feet are big enough that he occasionally steps on the GOPe, and less often the progs.
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 07:54 PM
That O'Malley thing is funny.
The Democrats are like Stalin v Trotsky except they replaced the ice pick with tweets so it never ends.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 07:56 PM
@Popehat: Today in 1969, Senator Edward Kennedy hosted a fun cook-out and party, had a few drinks, and met a lovely girl.
h/t Popehat on twitter.
Posted by: Sue | July 18, 2015 at 07:58 PM
Walker figuring it's a good time to attack Trump? Maybe he's right. He's no fool.
Posted by: Extraneus | July 18, 2015 at 07:58 PM
Fit guys flopping on ground in shorts.
Corrected your typo henry.
You're welcome. : )
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 07:58 PM
Texas man navigates traffic while filming wife giving birth
Posted by: Extraneus | July 18, 2015 at 08:00 PM
They gotta get style points with all the tie games Iggy. ;)
Posted by: henry | July 18, 2015 at 08:07 PM
"He's no fool."
What was his 4-year college GPA? Graduate school GPA?
I'd compare it to Obama's but he hasn't provided his either.
Posted by: Professor Julius F. Kelp | July 18, 2015 at 08:09 PM
Walker describing Trump's statement as a "disgrace" and opining that "he should apologize" seem reasonable responses, not "attacking", imo.
Posted by: DebinNC | July 18, 2015 at 08:09 PM
Exactly Professor Fukwad. He has not supplied those things.
He's no fool.
Posted by: GUS | July 18, 2015 at 08:11 PM
Re McCain and the Hanoi Hilton, I obviously have no direct knowledge, but I've had private conversations with both Bud Day and Leo Thorsness and they both get a pained look and STFU when Juan's name comes up.
Posted by: Man Tran | July 18, 2015 at 08:12 PM
Cheese Sped is manifestly developmentally disabled but Walker would be well advised to focus on important stuff and let someone more expendable stand in front of the impending train wreck known as Donald Trump.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 08:14 PM
McCain's been ranking member and now chairman of the Senate Armed Svcs Committee during all of BOzo's time in office, which has revealed a series of incredible revelations/scandals re the VA. I don't remember McCain bringing any of them to light or using his position to right the wrongs or end the abuse. Every week brings a new horror, today's that the the VA doesn't know how many of the 9 million vets in their "care" are dead.
Posted by: DebinNC | July 18, 2015 at 08:16 PM
GPA is a measure of foolishness?
Some of the biggest fools I ever met were tops in their classes.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | July 18, 2015 at 08:17 PM