Meanwhile, Back In Los Angeles...

The bright lights guiding the city of Angels doesn't seem to realize that sunlight is hot:

LA 'black ball' reservoir rollout potential 'disaster' in the making, say experts

LA's scheme to cover a reservoir under 96 million "shade balls" may not be all it is touted to be, experts told FoxNews.com, with some critics going so far as to refer to the plan as a "potential disaster."

 The city made national headlines last week when Mayor Eric Garcetti and Department of Water officials dumped $34.5 million worth of the tiny, black plastic balls into the city's 175-acre Van Norman Complex reservoir in the Sylmar section. Garcetti said the balls would create a surface layer that would block 300 million gallons from evaporating amid the state's crippling drought and save taxpayers $250 million.

Experts differed over the best color for the tiny plastic balls, with one telling FoxNews.com they should have been white and another saying a chrome color would be optimal. But all agreed that the worst color for the job is the one LA chose.

"Black spheres resting in the hot sun will form a thermal blanket speeding evaporation as well as providing a huge amount of new surface area for the hot water to breed bacteria," said Matt MacLeod, founder of the California biotech firm Modern Moon Farms. "Disaster. It’s going to be a bacterial nightmare.”

How much of a "bacterial nightmare"? Well, "Fear the Walking Dead", which depicts the start of a zombie outbreak in Los Angeles, premieres Sunday.

A coincidence? Stay tuned...

AND LEST YOU WONDER: Other science types explain the benefits and logic of the black balls, and vigorously dispute the warm water theory:

Black balls will heat up more than white balls would, and might even bump the temperature in the reservoir. They also might not. Sunlight heats an uncovered reservoir, not by directly heating individual water molecules, but by heating the bottom and that heat transferring to water through conduction. The warm, less-dense water on the bottom rises, and fresh, cooler, water sinks down to be heated in turn. In a covered reservoir, sunlight heats the top surface of floating balls instead. Water is still heated by conduction, but it stays at the top instead of circulating. That might slow down heat transfer. But either way, it isn’t very important.

Hmm. I have certainly been swimming on lakes with a warm layer of water extending several feet down and a noticeably cooler layer below that.

OK, DEPLORABLE YET PREDICTABLE.

Comments

[Tom Maguire]

I'm Holding On For a Hero! Which Twitter genius will be first with #BlackBallsMatter?

[Do you want to swing on the stats.]

Heh, judge in Bradygate isn't convinced by the league's science.

These balls are black indeed.

[I'm still trying to figure out the surface layer.]

Sunlight goes deep into water, heating all the way.

Infrared? Only a few microns, and the energy is removed by evaporation.

[henry]

I'm more interested in which campaign donor had surplus black balls* to get rid of... Plus whether they are Chinese imports.

* the Sanger parts service would be in bad taste here.

[daddy]

36 cents per ball.

And BTW, didn't we recently read that drinking water and plastic containers were somehow capable of causing cancer?

Why yes we did: Exposure to Chemicals in Plastic from Breast Cancer.org

It's a War on Women!

[henry]

Kim, on the surface layer... is the thermocline reflective (beyond sound)?

[Greg Q]

If you heat the bottom, the warm water cools as it rises.

If you heat the top, the water "cools" only via evaporation. Which is what the balls are supposed to be preventing.

Sorry, dumb idea.

[sbwaters]

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo today announced two economically transformational events at SUNY-Polytechnic in Marcy, between Utica and Rome.

1) Cuomo announced that GE will be returning to New York to the Quad-C building producing silicon carbide power blocks, modules, and circuits – a $50 million investment from the state and $150 million from GE. The net impact will be on the order of 1400 90k/year jobs.

2) Cuomo announced the State invested $200 million to build a chip fab building that Austrian company AMS will lease and invest $4 billion to create an additional 1,000 jobs with the plant operational in 2017. AMS will produce high performance analog integrated sensors and circuits for the ubiquitous Internet of things including cell phones, cars, and home appliance controls.

Cuomo related New York’s economic history. Upstate was built on a boom in manufacturing only to collapse when the economy changed and manufacturing moved elsewhere. The economic slowdown that resulted created vicious cycle of negative synergy when people leave, fewer pay taxes, the tax burden climbs, and, in the arrogant phase, government still raised taxes and imposed more regulation. “We were wrong.” People are smart, he said, faced with high taxes, people move.

It was a verbal tour de force from Cuomo as he wove together history, economics, politics, and reality in a motivational challenge to the region. Cuomo challenged locals to parley the investment larger. The future is up to you, Cuomo said. “You have the beginning. You have to stoke the flames,” Cuomo said. It is here for you now.

We have been working 17 years to make something like this happen. Cuomo astutely saw the opportunity with our eco development just as we saw the opportunity to partner with the state.

Cuomo is a national political figure to be reckoned with, now more than ever. He is establishing a track record of economic development, even in New York.

[Now you need a real scientist.]

henry, I think the thermocline is generally below where even sunlight penetrates, if that's the question you're asking.

[Daddy on the new iPhone]

Has Cuomo been indicted for corruption yet?

[henry]

sbw, Cuomo doesn't make any sense. If high taxes cause smart people to move, and Cuomo is no tax cutter, who exactly will work at those places (a bunch of highly paid dummies?).

I assume GE and AMS get the usual tax free decade or so. That means NY tax payers get the shaft as usual because these industrial subsidies never bring enough development with them.

The press and all career politicians will love this, but it won't end well.

[Rocco]

Lakes turn over naturally and quite frequently. Water is at it's densest at 39 Degrees F and when surface water reaches that temp, it sinks to the bottom forcing warmer water up to begin the cycle all over. The thermocline is the most oxygenated layer in the water column and usually settles somewhere in the middle after a lake turn's over and sets up. (that's where the fish are)

[Seawater also has a colder most dense temp.]

Heh, now you got a fishing scientist. I was thinking of the oceanic thermoclines, and I'm happy to be corrected by someone who knows what he is talking about.

[Jeff Dobbs]

TM:
I'm Holding On For a Hero! Which Twitter genius will be first with #BlackBallsMatter?

I don't twit, but...

TOO Amok?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Probably too amok.

[sbwaters]

Daddy, no Cuomo hasn’t been indicted yet.

henry, Cuomo claims it is property taxes that were killing upstate and he capped those. "We cut income taxes to a level last seen in 1959 We cut corporate taxes to the lowest in 50 years. We cut the manufacturing tax to zero. We recognize the need for investment in New York."

[henry]

Kim, I built an interferometer to measure hydrogen bonding (alcohol - water mixtures) as my senior project, so had job offers from places like Naval Underwater Systems Labs... but I mostly remember non-experimental alcohol - water mixtures from 35 years ago. The UHF Ultrasound vs IR absorption science not so much. ;)

[jimmyk]

The net impact will be on the order of 1400 90k/year jobs.

Net of what? These employees are just going to magically spontaneously generate? Most of them will move from other jobs, some from in-state, some from out-of-state. Meanwhile taxes are $50M higher, or about $35,000 per supposed net job increase.

Cuomo's full of hot air. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

[henry]

sbw, I didn't get that impression from Chief Executive's rankings of good states to do business in. If Cuomo did that, nobody outside NY knows.

[Torpedos away.]

My brother was the ET on the USS Baya out of NEL, but he didn't run the huge sonar up front. That was for the PhDs.

[jimmyk]

I don't believe that NY State income taxes and corporate taxes are the lowest they've been in 50 years. I'd like to see that claim documented or "fact-checked." It's not so easy to find data, but I'm not even sure what that means. The rates are lower? Revenues per capita are lower? The sales tax is certainly higher than ever.

[sbwaters]

What matters for our area is that the seed money for the chip fab investment was not spent in Albany or NYC. It also gives us the opportunity to draw support industries to the area.

The concentration of economic impact is something that we have seen but five times since 1758:
1758 – Building Fort Stanwix
1817 – Building the Erie Canal
1928 – Copper manufacturing
1942 – Griffiss Air Force Base
2015 – Cuomo’s GE/AMS nanotech initiative

[sbwaters]

And jimmyk, I'm not disagreeing with you or changing my political stripes.

I am saying that Cuomo pulled a sharp political move today that sets him up to be a player on the national scene.

[narciso]

Well it certainly wasn't true as of 2012 (tax foundation), why hadn't GE invested upstate before, cronies do what cronies do.

[lyle]

Why didn't they use rainbow colored balls? Huh? HUH?

[Dave (in MA)]

A little POI news that I came across.

[jimmyk]

Understood, sbw, I just hate to think that throwing $50M of taxpayer money at GE (plus $200M for a chip fabricating plant) makes one a "player on the national scene" after nearly 7 years of Obama. Why should chips be fabricated in New York state with taxpayer money? Have we learned nothing?

[henry]

JimmyK, those who rank political players have learned nothing -- except contributions to Cuomo will be traded for subsidies later.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

The POI addicts at Zuckerberg gave me an earlier heads up on Shaw. Although I'm a big fan of her character, Martine not capping her at her earliest opportunity just stomped all over my "bullshit" line in the sand.

[Dave (in MA)]

I liked it better when the Shaw character was a sociopath rather than a female Reese.

[Miss Marple]

Back home. Didn't buy much tonight because nutty people were bidding stuff up too high.

How much is New York paying for those ads which run all the time here on my cable system when Fox is on?

[daddy]

Midget Raisins, Midget Raisins, Midget Raisins!

The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) issued a regulation on Thursday to stop referring to midget raisins as “midget” after an activist group called the term offensive.

[Miss Marple]

Another discrepancy in Hillary's statements. This time, it's about who ordered the server turned over. John Sexon of Verumsarem found it.

http://twitchy.com/2015/08/20/452534/

[Joan]

Little people raisins? :)

[narciso]

Well that makes sense, btw one of the lapdogs for Molochs minion, isn't happy with twitchy.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

The show must have had disappointing ratings last season because the CBS Top Men have been treating it like a red headed step child while ordering a herd of fatted calfs to be killed weekly for Scorpion. I know that at least some people wanted the show just to be a weekly event of investigating numbers with no overarching background goings on but I found last season to be the most stimulating yet, particularly the one which scrutinized various scenarios interspersed with Finch and the Machine playing. I also enjoyed Finch dealing with earlier incarnations of the Machine which weren't nearly as benevolent as the final product; that was an outgrowth of a discussion with a real world AI designer captured on the Season 3 DVD.

[Joan]

Offensive raisins? :)

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Finch and the Machine playing chess...

[Joan]

Homunculus raisins?

[Joan]

Diminutive raisins?

Okay, I'll stop. :)

Just got to me.

The government. Makes me think of HUD's new regulations to diversify neighborhoods. Everything this latest group of politicians touch makes me want to slap someone. :)

[narciso]

Yes that episode was one of the best, it tackles the ethics of heuristics and surveillance in a sophisticated way Greer/finch reveals a dichotomy.

[narciso]

' I heard it through the grapevine' and we have lost our minds.

[Steve]

Viral Video - "FIRST REPUBLICAN DEBATE HIGHLIGHTS: 2015" — A Bad Lip Reading of The Republican Debate

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/08/viral-video-first-republican-debate.html

[daddy]

Miss Marple,

Your 09:15 shows that it was The FBI asking for the server that caused Platte River to supposedly hand it over---it wasn't Hillary.

But then when I click on this story of Judge Sullivan's Hearing on the Email's: Judge says Hillary Clinton's private emails violated policy, we get this:

The judge expressed irritation Wednesday when (Justice Department lawyer Peter) Wechsler said he did not know whether the FBI, a Justice Department agency — was actually in possession of Clinton’s server or thumb drives on which her attorney stored copies of her emails.

“You’re a Justice Department attorney?….You can’t tell me?” the judge said.

Wechsler said the FBI was “reportedly” in possession of the server, but he said the State Department knew that only because Kendall told them so.

“I need to get an answer,” the judge said. “We’re tiptoeing on the head of a pin because there’s only one government.”

We really do need heads to roll.

[daddy]

Little people raisins? :)

Offensive raisins? :)

Homunculus raisins?

Diminutive raisins?

Joan,

All's I know is that our USDA is full of "mental Midgets."

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I'm a man of simple tastes;
I'm just happy the hot chick is back. :)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A pygmy in the sun?
Racist and sizist! Beat that!

[Dave (in MA)]

Iggy, you and the women in comfortable shoes.

[narciso]

No wonder, wechsler who gales from Middlesex was a story consulyltant on law and order, so reality is 'another country' to him.

[daddy]

So the Private E-mail system?

Hillary: "I didn't think it through."

"toppling a government in Libya without any idea of what might come next."

She didn't think it through.

“I thought I had acted in good faith and made the best decision I could with the information I had", (on going to war in Iraq).

She didn't think it through.

etc.

[Dave (in MA)]

Click on it to see the whole thing.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Dave,
Maybe they brought her back because the sociopath can now legally marry the hired killer.

[Janet]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/abortion-opponents-plan-nationwide-planned-parenthood-protest/article/2569261

The website listing the protest locations around the nation has been shut down??

http://protestpp.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

God, I made the mistake of actually reading some of the comments at Dave's lesbo link.
"They're killing the queers!"
And somehow Shaw an ethnic Iranian, yeah the original Aryans, is now a WOC.

Nutters.

[Joan]

"A pygmy in the sun?
Racist and sizist! Beat that"

Unbeatable. A pygmy in the sun is a classic. :)

[DublinDaveForever]

Having served a little time on the inside I can honestly say that black balls do get very hot.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

The interactions between Miss Groves and Shaw were easily the most annoying part of the last season and I say that as somebody who is not averse to enjoying some hawt lezzo action between two people who easily pass the looks requirement. The lines were barely above porn dialogue quality; or so I've been led to believe.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

John Hinderaker destroys the ignorant retarded NYT editorial on immigration.

[daddy]

This story, siting anonymous sources, fits in with the Crypto guys I earlier mentioned having heard called into a Talk Show last night:

U.S. Said to Probe How Classified Data Got on Hillary Clinton’s Server

U.S. law enforcement officials are investigating how classified material found its way into messages that members of Hillary Clinton’s State Department staff sent to her private e-mail address, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the inquiry...

...Clinton aides drew upon a variety of messages in classified information systems to produce summaries and updates of events in Libya and elsewhere and then sent them to Clinton or her aides using a private server.

Yep.

[daddy]

Just as an aside, if I was a concerned President who truly wanted to get to the bottom of this, I would have my spooks see if our spies working clandestinely on their side, could provide proof that their side had in fact hacked her system. That's what any sensible world leader for the last 2,000 years would do, in order to find out what has or has not been compromised.

Any President concerned about this case would do that.

Dogs.

[Dave (in MA)]

One disturbing POI-related piece of info I discovered is that Camryn Manheifer is younger than me.

[Janet]

What makes a website get suspended?

http://prolifeaction.org/hotline/2015/ndp/

"Two weeks ago, the Pro-Life Action League — along with our friends at Citizens for a Pro-Life Society, Created Equal, and 40 Days for Life — called for a National Day of Protest against Planned Parenthood to take place on Saturday, August 22.

As of this writing, this protest will be happening in over 300 cities from coast to coast and even internationally in places as far away as Ireland and Honduras! ....

You can find the location of a protest near you right here."

But the link goes to a site that is now suspended. protestpp.com
I had looked at it before & it listed the cities participating, contact people, where to meet, etc.

[Miss Marple]

Janet,

Nothing surprises me. could have been hacked by the abortion fans, could have been shut down by the government, could have been shut down by the people who run the server.

Have you tried the Catholic Archdiocese? Sometimes they put up announcements.

[Janet]

Never mind...it is working now.
http://protestpp.com/protests/

I'm gettin' paranoid! Hah!

[narciso]

Yes their intolerance for crime think becomes more and more pronounced, see miss filopovic's rant re twitchy

[Janet]

Maybe so many people are interested in going it couldn't handle the traffic!
I need to be more positive.
The page did say "account suspended"...so I thought the worst.

[Miss Marple]

Janet,

If you are getting paranoid, I am right there with you!

[DublinDaveForever]

"U.S. law enforcement officials are investigating how classified material found its way into messages that members of Hillary Clinton’s State Department staff sent to her private e-mail address, according to a U.S. official with knowledge of the inquiry..."

Talking to a friend in an Ybor city bar last night who works inside the Clinton campaign and he seemed really relaxed about the whole email-gate affair.A couple of beers in he leaned over and whispered in my ear "It's misdirection". "Excuse me" I said and he said in a low voice "We're hiding something that happened in 2006 by throwing the media off the scent with this dumb shit.Email gate was designed to send everyone down the rabbit hole."

I admire the Clintons.

[Janet]

Now it is down again...maybe it is a good sign though. Lots of interest.

[Daddy on the new iPhone]

Since McConnell promised he wouldn't impeach Obama I wonder if he would make the same pledge to not impeach trump if trump gets elected?

My guess is he wouldn't make that pledge.

[narciso]

Stuart Stevens crawls out from his burrow, 'removing all doubt' the both were less predictable.

[Miss Marple]

Daddy (on the new iPhone!)

I agree. In fact, should Trump get elected, he would have to start out going directly to the people because McConnell would throw a roadblock on whatever he wanted to do.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Andrew Ferguson on the abominable Ike memorial.

[narciso]

That slaughter piece is full of category error.

[GUS]

Blackberry is offensive. COLORED PERSON BERRY is preferable??

When did the fucking Dept of Agriculture decide which words were able to be spoken or used??

This shit has to stop.

[Miss Marple]

Got to head to bed.

Nytol!

[GUS]

Janet, possibly the Dept of Agriculture has decided that DISMEMBERED BABIES was offensive to someone and had the website taken down.

It's MARXIST FASCIST LOGIC.

[GUS]

Good night Miss Marple!!!

[narciso]

Actually it's worse than that, this treaty gives I ran the opportunity not to build one bomb but 20, and there will a nuclear arms race that will dwarf the last one.

[jimmyk]

Not only that, like N. Korea the regime will be virtually untouchable no matter how unpopular domestically or internationally.

[GUS]

Narciso, NK and IRAN are both going to have nukes. NK has them. Iran may have them now, but certainly will soon.
NK and IRAN. We are in deep shit.

[GUS]

OH MY GAWD MAGNUM!! MEGHAN McCAIN is MEGHAN McDOUBLE.

[Janet]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/20/congressional-dems-probe-group-revealed-pp-videos/

"Congressional Democrats have opened their own investigation into the Planned Parenthood videos — but into the group that took the footage in which officials haggle over the prices of organs and discuss keeping a baby alive so his brain can be harvested."...

"Mr. Cummings‘ letter asks for documents on CMP funding, donors, associates, activities and meetings and copies of all video and audio footage with Planned Parenthood employees."

I WISH my name was on the donor/associate list. It would be an honor to be associated with CMP. Exposing evil in the protected, secretive, multimillion dollar abortion industry.

[DrJ]

Chicago still is Chicago (Ars):

The former CEO of Redflex, a large red light camera vendor, pleaded guilty on Thursday to bribery of Chicago city officials as part of a large contracting bid.

Karen Finley is the second of three defendants to plead guilty to such charges, The scheme was to hire a friend of a former Chicago transit official as a $2 million consultant, much of which was then funneled to that official. Martin O’Malley, the contractor, announced in court filings that he would plead guilty in October 2014.

The federal criminal trial of John Bills, the former managing deputy commissioner at the Department of Transportation, is currently set for January 11, 2016.

But I thought a woman could not do such a thing!

[GUS]

Janet, do you think Lois Lerner has requested the donor lists, phone numbers and addresses of all those who have given money to PLANNED PARENTHOOD aka, THE DEATH HUT???

If not, why?

[narciso]

They are in good company, that nazgul went after true the vote the same way.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--NK and IRAN are both going to have nukes. NK has them.--

He's been a busy little beaver while he's been away.

[narciso]

And of course they are going after O'Donnell the witness because they are strigoi.

[GUS]

Funny Ig!!! NK and KIMCHI, a noxious combo. It could keep DoT away forevah!!!

[Stephanie]

https://sharylattkisson.com/hillary-clintons-email-the-definitive-timeline/

Sharyl is on the case.

[Janet]

"unaccompanied minors"
It is hard to believe young children from Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador are crossing the Mexican desert by themselves. Extraneus pointed that out before & it is SO true.

Maybe we SHOULD let them stay. They're like SUPER KIDS or something.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/08/20/stonewalled-feds-hide-fiscal-details-about-vast-operation-to-resettle-illegal-alien-minors/

[GUS]

Oh no Janet, they are coming here for LOVE and for OPPORTUNITY.

I've said this for 10 years.

The LIBTARD/FASCISTS ......WANT THEM HERE.

Unfortunately so does the ESTABLISHMENT GOP.

Double unfortunately, OBAMA and his SICK RANCID ADMIN, is plotting, planning, enabling and ENCOURAGING more of the illegal INFLUX. Obama is a sick and disgusting PILE OF SHIT. He is a MARXIST and his GOAL is to destroy OUR AMERICA and to REBUILD the U.S.A. as a SOCIALIST/MARXIST PARADISE. With a UNICORN FLAG of RAINBOW COLORS.

[Janet]

If a young child has enough skill & get-up-'n-go to walk from El Salvador to Texas on their own...
I don't see how they couldn't make it in their own country.

[GUS]

Stephanie, thank God for REAL reporting by the likes of Sharyl Atkisson. She has been honorable and decent through-out her career.
She hasn't sold her soul for a gilded microphone. She is rare.

[GUS]

Janet. How would a 12-14 year old, in El Salvador, KNOW, how to, and actually succeed in making it to the U.S.?? And why are these CHILDREN, doing so NOW??

This is disgusting.

[Jack is Back!]

GUS,

If still up, can't find your answer to my question about how the Ephiphone Les Paul interfaces with the Acoustic 20 watt amp. Does he need a cable or is a RF type connection?

[Janet]

from Steph's 12:12 link - "After the ARB and Congress call for Benghazi-related documents, top Clinton aides Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan are allegedly present at a document sorting session in the basement of the State Dept., according to Deputy Assistant Secretary Raymond Maxwell, who later told me he witnessed the operation. No law enforcement body contacted or interviewed Maxwell."

How is Raymond Maxwell not on all the news shows? He was one of the scapegoats early on.

[GUS]

Hey Jack, I'm so glad you showed up Brother!!

[Jack is Back!]

GUS,

Its only 6:51 over here in Antwerp:) Do I need a cable?

[GUS]

JACK, simple quarter inch jack guitar cable.
Listen, it's really quite simple. And even this evening I saw on TV and got e-mail, OFFERS from Guitar Center. Jack, buy the kid a simple amp. I own a dozen different amps from 1967-2000. Nothing has changed vis a vis basic guitar to amp technology.
Get FREDERICK a nice TAKAMINE, and a EPIPHONE LES PAUL. Any small amp will do.
Jack, in fact, you could buy the young man better stuff, but you don't need to.
My son is now FRESHMAN FOOTBALL at MARQUETTE HIGH!! 14. Henry knows my boy very well. My son has an EXPLORER, a Les Paul, A Telecaster, an Ibanez, acoustic/electric and a couple others. He has a couple of nice amps, A Marshall, A Yamaha, and a HARTKE. I'm not well to do, but I re-gift to my son.