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September 04, 2015

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DrJ

Wow, two new threads late on a holiday Friday!

maryrose

Real unemployment at10.8
No change or improvement since the 2008 crash
Way to go Bammy

henry

Dude's got an import!!!! Their both dangerous!

Suleimani gets my vote as most interested in dating a camel.

Stephanie

Brought forward from another thread for the third time...

Trump's point (which I agree with) is that as we drone and as they behead each other, the top players are in constant flux and cutting off the head won't stop the rest of the barbarians. Who needs to know who to 'deal with?' Blanket carpet bombing and some Warthogs will deal with them in the only language they know. You don't 'deal with' or have diplomatic dialog with barbarians. Bottom line, who gives a f@ck what their names are... kill em all and make it unsavory to be them as you will know what awaits you and it ain't 72 virgins.

Miss Marple

Stephanie,

Agree 100%.

Extraneus

All candidates should be ready for pop quiz questions, especially outsiders like Trump, Carson and Fiorina.

How about this?

"If I tried to keep track of all the terrorists in the world, I might feel too sorry for them to approve drone strikes."

Extraneus

Refugee crisis: European leaders preparing EU-wide protection force to deal with unfolding humanitarian catastrophe

European leaders are preparing to create a powerful EU-wide border protection force to deal with the refugee crisis engulfing the continent, The Independent understands.

Under plans being discussed by officials in Brussels, legal responsibility for deporting people deemed to be economic migrants would pass from the member states to the European Union.

The proposal – which would have legal force – will be discussed at the meeting of EU interior and justice ministers later this month.
At the same time the Commission will draw up a list of “safe countries of origin”. Migrants from these countries would be returned, because the EU considers them to be sufficiently stable. The list is expected to include all the Balkan States, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Senegal and a number of other African countries.

The plan would mean that Frontex – the EU agency that currently acts as the liaison point for individual member states’ border controls – would take on new legal responsibilities. It would be able to arrange the deportation of people deemed to be economic migrants from across the EU as well as possibly managing the relocation of refugees across Europe.

Oh brother.

Stephanie

And since I refuse to take part in the Brady kerfuffle...

https://www.facebook.com/houstonseagle/photos/a.490759210980141.1073741829.145517268837672/938114069577984/?type=1&theater

My only 2 cents.

Extraneus

So first they'll let them in, then decide whether they're "economic" migrants. If not, they're good to go!

Suicidal fools. And you know the US will take a large number of them, secretly, without any MSM interference.

Extraneus
Frontex – the EU agency that currently acts as the liaison point for individual member states’ border controls

What border controls?

Pangur

The concern for Hewitt and the interests he represents seems to be that a Trump administration won't be a neocon playground.

Stephanie

The new Trump campaign video (with full permission and a hell yea! from Twisted Sister)

http://ulstermanbooks.com/epic-donald-j-trump-campaign-video/

Miss Marple

Stephanie, pretty good but not an official campaign video.

Jane

I feel terrible about all those refugees. I think we will look back at this and weep.

BeenThereDoneThat

Seems this web site is keeping close watch on our 'refugee' immigration stats...

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/01/16/how-much-of-your-tax-dollars-are-the-federal-refugee-resettlement-contractors-receiving/

Miss Marple

Jane,

I have been upset about this since ISIS first started taking territory and executing people.

Europe ignored it for a long time, and now they are getting swamped. If Obama hadn't called ISIS the JV and ignored it, maybe we could have prevented this.

What good is it to have a huge army and not do anything? What a colossal waste, and it makes me ashamed of our government.

matt

Sulemeini has been around for a very long time and is a clear and present danger to the United States.

If we ever get the chance we need to whack this mole.

We don't have a huge army anymore. Obama is drawing it down very quickly. Am at a reunion this weekend and both active duty units have a complete lockdown on non-essential spending. They had committed, as well. This has nver happened before.

narciso

In keeping with his promise to the ploughshares people in iowa, some promises he does keep.

Buckeye

Had to make a quick run to San Francisco to deal with a family matter. First time I have been dowtown in 25 years.

Enough to make you weep. City has been turned into a shithole. Bums on the corners wallowing in their own crap. Cigarette butts everywhere. BART trains not fit for third world duty. Seedy, freaky and out of control.

Perfect example of why you don't liberals running anything. Guys could fuck up a wet dream.

Miss Marple

Well, matt, even though we are drawing down the army, guess we still have money for this:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/big-brother-barack-rewrites-o-care-again-to-include-transgender-procedures/

Captain Hate on the iPad

Butbutbutbut it's a sanctuary city, Buckeye; doesn't that make you feel better?

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

The GOPe is in good hands with young NY Republicans who make sure their friends know that even those Tea Partiers and Christians hate and declare war on people that mush-headed, little dumbasses like them don't.

Dave (in MA)

Buckeye, did you take a leak on any lamp posts?

Buckeye

CH

I am sitting in the airport waiting for a redeye back to Ahia, and I am struck by how ethnically mixed the crowd is. You sure aren't going to weed out illegals by profiling, and the obvious minority are Caucasians.

Buckeye

I did see one punk kid get busted by the cops for leaving a big mess where he had been living more or less under a newspaper vending machine.

I don't think it would be wise to take leak on a lamppost. They are in such a poor state of repair that instant electrocution is pretty much a given.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

We're just one 10.0 away from becoming a red state again.
Too bad the San Andreas can't generate one that big.

Buckeye

Stephanie

I really liked your 7:10, but you neglected to mention the napalm.

narciso

You live where costa del lex*would be right,

The original superman had a great foil in gene hackman.

Miss Marple

Oh, good, Megyn has a bunch of black lives matters types and their supporters as well as some who oppose them.

Stephanie

Thanks MM and buckeye.

Trump doesn't speak "Hewitt academe" thus the need for a translator. He reminds of a former very good boss that spoke about half the words in a directive but always the most important ones. Took some getting used to, but for those who equate time w money who needs pronouns, articles, prepositions, etc?

Pangur

It's a plus in my book that Trump doesn't know the ins and outs of the sand tribes.

He's not running for C-in-C of the IDF (that's what Jeb is doing).

Rick Ballard

"This has never happened before."

Matt,

It's an OPM problem. Jack Lew is spending down all surplus monies because BOzo won't ask for the debt limit to be raised. The Federal government has adopted the Chicago Way wrt cash management.

narciso

Jeffrey Lord who did work for reagan, if memory serves defended trump against the Hewitt gotcha. The proper thing would have been to quiz him on what needs to be done and do followup.

Thomas Collins

Stephanie, your 7:22 PM link IS taking part in the Brady kerfuffle. :-)

narciso

Re hungary, they have certain historical resonances re visitors from ottoman territory, so should the Greeks and frankly the Italians.

DebinNC

The second Republican debate coming soon will be moderated by CNN's Jake Tapper, Dana Bash, and Salem Radio's Hugh Hewitt.

narciso

Of course the would be sultan claims no responsibility at all, blaming the west.

Miss Marple

narciso,

You are right about the historical background, which is something a lot of Americans (including almost all of the people in the White House) do not understand.

European memories are long ones, as are those of the Muslims. This entire thing will end in war in Europe, I am afraid.

Stephanie

But not the Brady thread. It makes my head hurt. All I hear is Charlie Brown's teacher... wah wah wah.

I believe that was my one and only comment on the entire thing... ever.

narciso

Re the previous thread when I see mockingjay last year, I thought of syria. The social dislocation has been so great, on all sides, I don't see a normal society arising any time soon. If the alawites hold out, they will crush the Sunni tribes. Of the reverse, year zero.

GUS

Yes Narciso, this was caused by Obama leading from behind.

CROSS THIS LINE....I DARE YA!!

narciso

Interesting volodya's pet hamster snowden, probably with some insight that red queen was definitely hacked.

Frau X-Bein

"What good is it to have a huge army and not do anything?"

Almost the words of Madeleine Albright about Bosnia: "What's the point of having this superb military that you're always talking about if we can't use it?"

narciso

Different circumstance, frau,were talking about killing people and breaking things, not social work, ala Albright was suggesting.

Miss Marple

Well, Frau, I guess you got me on that one.

But if we stand aside while genocide occurs, what good are WE?

I don't know the answer, but whatever we are doing now (almost nothing) seems to not be right.

glasater

If it takes a dirty fighter like Trump to win an election so be it.

I would much rather have Ted Cruz as the leader of the fight or for sure Carly but it ain't gonna happen. We've gone too far round the bend dealing with the idiocy that holds sway with progressives.

BTW, Rush says Hill is gonna be the D nominee if it hasn't been mentioned here before.

Miss Marple

Williamson is a fine writer when he isn't on his anti-Trump vendetta.

I am putting this article up so rse will see it.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/389680/they-are-coming-your-children-kevin-d-williamson?gglQfoJ2U7Rdis6S.01

Miss Marple

Nytol!

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

-- This entire thing will end in war in Europe, I am afraid.--

The alternative is worse, as the only real alternative is a Europe absorbed by the locusts of islam.

narciso

That piece is nearly a year old, yet he doesn't go for the Team america candidate.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

The struggles of the world's hairiest family.
Hypertrichosis-thick hair all over their faces.
Sad, but inspiring too.

Frau X-Bein

"But if we stand aside while genocide occurs, what good are WE?"

Same question ducked by Bent Willie, Dickie Clarke and Susan Rice during Rwanda genocide. The "G" word was not to be spoken because it would commit the US to action. Obama has been careful in speaking about Syria and ISIS. Red lines are easier to erase.

narciso, I'm thinking of Albright's war in the Balkans, as it was dubbed.

narciso

I recognize the quote frau, as I've remarked before it was the training grounds for aq's middle management

GUS

Frau, I learned something vital about Obama as I sat in my Cousins' living room in Perth Scotland 4 and a half years ago.
Obama was on Skye news and was preeeeeeening as he told the World that AMERICA would allow our ALLIES to take care of the Libya situation. He's a bluffing coward fukwad. He does not want U.S./us to be a WORLD SUPER POWER.

DrJ

Tomorrow's WSJ has an interview with Thomas Sowell. It is a bit light-weight but still worth reading.

http://on.wsj.com/1hIPHNz

Captain Hate on the iPad

That war in the Balkans was the first one I've ever seen the MFM openly shilling for. Of course there was no strategic value for us, it was protecting the I-Slummers against purported atrocities, all of which were hugely exaggerated, and against Orthodox Christians, and conducted by a sexual predator getting a beej from a zoftig intern while he was strategerizing on how to blow up the Chinese embassy with "smart" munitions while rejecting the use of ground troops in this "humanitarian effort".

Yes, it was at least as dumb as I've indicated.

Buckeye

GUS

It is another component of taking down a country full of "typical white people".

Captain Hate on the iPad

Has any brave reporter asked 404 why he and his EPA hate the Navaho enough to poison four rivers? Has any GOP luminary posed the question? Has anybody brought up that Rodham's emails make her appear to be suffering from impaired mental functions?

Janet

a reminder...

The guys leading now don't know too much.
John McCain doesn't know the meaning of Allahu Akbar!

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/203031/no-john-allah-akbar-does-not-mean-thank-god-and-it-daniel-greenfield

Captain Hate on the iPad

Buckeye, apparently things have deteriorated significantly over the last ten years in SF.

GUS

Buckeye, to me Obama and his nasty wife both hate whitey. It's part of their mental illness and ideology. What on EARTH would the HALF BLACK BARNEY FIFE hate white for???? How has WHITEY ever done to harm him??? The reason he is MARXIST is because he was raised as such AND, because he is emotionally disturbed. THAT, he can blame WHITE for. His mother DUMPED him.

narciso

A great column by sowell, very much doubleunplusgood.

Frau X-Bein

Thomas Sowell is my fantasy president.

CH - did we ever learn how much that Chinese embassy cost us?

DrJ

apparently things have deteriorated significantly over the last ten years in SF.

You have no idea. Buckeye's experience mirrors mine. I detest the place, in spite of its natural beauty and good food.

Frau X-Bein

Welp - $4.5 million to the families of the three killed by Bent Willie's bombers. No mention of the cost of the embassy itself.
Great statement:

Mr. Andrews went out of his way to say the compensation was voluntary and not an admission of American liability. Washington has insisted that the bombing was an accident.

''This payment will not create any precedents,'' Mr. Andrews said, apparently trying to quell concern about possible claims against the United States in the future that arise from other military action. (NYT)

Dave (in MA)
Has anybody brought up that Rodham's emails make her appear to be suffering from impaired mental functions?
The richest bag lady in the world.
Frau X-Bein

DrJ - as you know, it's one of the main destinations of European visitors to California.

G'nytall...

GUS

Janet! That is the problem with most egotistical politicians. The elected variety actually believe that getting more votes than the other dude/dudette on the ballot.....ACTUALLY QUALIFIES THEM to do about everything. The BUREAUCRATIC variety FEAR NO CONSEQUENCES of their own stupidity and/or ideology. Lois Lerner is the DIPSHIT in the BUREAUCRATIC CATEGORY. She wins the MILHOUSE TROPHY. John McCain believes he is SMART. He is not. He is an ELECTED politician of little skill and even less knowledge. John Effin Kerry wins the MILHOUSE trophy in the ELECTED/CABINET category. The HUBRIS is unbearable.

DrJ

Frau,

it's one of the main destinations of European visitors to California.

Bully for them. I hope they enjoy their "experience."

GUS

Frau!!! My brother could certainly provide those figures. He is over seeing the construction of an Embassy right now.
He's in "the know".

Captain Hate on the iPad

Frau, I'd probably need Paul Ryan to dig into that because the coverup on that was probably equal to how there are no copies (unless somebody taped it with a VHS recorder and the Stasi DoJ hasn't arrested them and confiscated it) of "The Road to 9/11".

GUS

Capn'. NOTHING. NOTHING is ever going to be investigated and adjudicated before Ofukwad heads off to his CHOOOOMING retirement. And the GOP will do NOTHING after.
Sandy Burger was stealing documents. He was stealing evidence. He was risking SERIOUS FEDERAL PRISON TIME............................FOR A REASON.
He's free.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

--Thomas Sowell is my fantasy president.--

Walter Williams is mine.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

Holy Moses, that 11:34 pic is new to me...and now I think I'll go shoot myself.

Dave (in MA)

Don't do it, Ig.

GUS

Ig, my brother had to PROTECT that HAG.

Captain Hate on the iPad

It's difficult for me to link things with the iPad but ace has a post which elaborates on just how out of it Rodham is in some of her emails. Joking aside I don't think she's functioning normally and either Slick is likewise out of it or he really hates her to put her in such a high exposure position. Likewise their oafish daughter who doesn't have a trace of human characteristics.

GUS

Wow Capn'. Clinton is a sociopath, Rodham is dishonest, power hungry SHREW. As much as they love their spawn, they have no VALUES with which they could raise her. Furthermore, their daughters only frames of reference has/have been, the FUCKED UP/SOCIOPATHY of Mommy and Daddy.

Just IMAGINE the SPAWN of ABEDIN and WEINER.
It's like a BABY JACKAL. It's not the BABY JACKALS fault, but I'd shoot it anyway.
Wow.

Cispigmented Heteronormative Microagressive Vulgarian Ignatz

All is well. I missed.

Barbara

I think that Hugh Hewitt is pining away for his hero, Mitt Romney, to enter the race. He's been talking up Romney since 1996. Must have been a great disappointment to see his guy fail in 2012.

As far as knowing every unusual Middle Eastern name, I don't see that as a rigid requirement. The media did that to Bush 43 in 2000 IIFC with Pervez Musharraf. Didn't seem relevant at the time, and when it became relevant Bush was President and knew him well enough.

I sure hope Hewitt doesn't muck up the debate with such questions.

GUS

Barbara, I am neither a Hewitt nor a Trump fan. You made sense until you said.,,

""As far as knowing every unusual Middle Eastern name, I don't see that as a rigid requirement""

No one is suggesting that Trump "know every unusual Middle Eastern name"

That comment was biased and stupid.

Barbara

Sorry, Gus. The comment is not biased, I assure you. As far as stupid, that's a relative judgement. I gave an example of Bush in the year 2000 being asked about Musharraf to explain the context.

I expect candidates to be knowledgeable about the issues we face at home and abroad; however, I do not expect them to have the kind of in depth knowledge that will be available to them if sh/e should become president. Carly Fiorina answered the same question with about the same depth but more grace.

If you have a different view, we'll just have to disagree.

GUS

Yes Barbara. We can both agree that NO ONE was REQUIRING TRUMP to know EVERY UNUSUAL MIDDLE EASTERN NAME!!!! Stand by your statement Barbara. Don't change the subject to G.W or MUSHARRAF.
You are relegated to CLOWN status, when you make statements that are foolish, and when you try to wiggle away from them.

One more chance. Who required TRUMP to KNOW ......EVERY UNUSUAL MIDDLE-EASTERN NAME????

Barbara?? I'll wait.

maryrose

Gus
I don't want to be the thread police but you are being rude to Barbara
Barbara. Glad to see you posting

Barbara

Thanks, maryrose. At least Gus and I agree on one sentence. That's got to be a record.

GUS

Thanks Maryrose. I wouldn't want to be rude to a LYING HACK.
Maryrose. Do not count on me to back you ever again.
I'm a fact based individual. Maryrose. It was nice knowing you. Fight your fights alone now.

GUS

Maryrose. You WERE the thread police tonight.
You made you choice, I will NEVER darken your door again.

DebinNC

Hugh Hewitt intentionally tried to ambush Trump imo. He's a huge Romney fan, as Barbara pointed out. I hope there's a palpable blowback that makes Hewitt think long and hard before the coming debate. Actions have consequences, and talk show hosts have sponsors.

GUS

I'm so sick of peeps defending their pals.

DebinNC

I'm not sure who/what you're upset about, GUS? Are you defending Hewitt? If so, that's fine. Are you defending Trump against Hewitt? If so, I agree with you. Back to bed for me now, but didn't want you to feel ignored.

daddy

Uh oh, A(B).

Jane,

On the previous thread I related the quiz about the point on earth most distant from land being a point midway between the California Coast and the Big Island of Hawaii. My quiz answer was wrong:(

Now I see that according to various Geo threads, (via WIKI) that the furthest point is down in the South Pacific at a point that has been termed "Point Nemo":

"The oceanic pole of inaccessibility (48°52.6′S 123°23.6′W) is the place in the ocean that is farthest from land. It lies in the South Pacific Ocean, 2,688 km (1,670 mi) from the nearest lands: Ducie Island (part of the Pitcairn Islands) in the north, Motu Nui (part of the Easter Islands) in the northeast, and Maher Island (near the larger Siple Island, off the coast of Marie Byrd Land, Antarctica) in the south. Chatham Island lies farther west, and Southern Chile in the east. This location is also referred to as "Point Nemo", a reference to Jules Verne's Captain Nemo.[15]

West Coast to Hawaii would only be approximately 2,300 miles at the longest, so though it qualifies as What Is The Longest Over-Water Route of Flight With No Alternate, overall Caro would only have to swim at the longest about 1,150 miles, if she ran into trouble at my ETP, whereas if she sprung a leak at Point Nemo in the South Pacific,
she'd have to swim 1,670 miles to get either to Antarctica, to Easter Island, or to some spot near Pitcairn called Ducie island.

I do hope Caro never has to swim that far of course, but if she does, of the 3 equidistant points:

A) Ducie Island in the Pitcairn group:

B) Moto Nui in the Easter Island group:

C) Maher Island, Antarctica:

I'd recommend Moto Nui for the art.

Illegal Overload

All I care about is the eventual President knowing the name of a good wall builder.

Gentlejim

If our current president were doing his job the names of the heads of the various terrorist groups would be changing periodically anyway. Why get to know the names of idiots who won't be breathing for too long?

BR

Are Hillary Clinton's dominoes starting to topple in email probe? 9/3/15

The comment by michaelrivero is very good. I quoted here in full, but tipsypad drank it.

BR

I'll tiptoe around tipsypad and post it anyway.

By commenter Michaelrivera:

"There are two other scandals lurking in the shadows behind the email server itself that need to be fully exposed.

The first is the now confirmed flow of weapons from Libya through the consulate in Benghazi to arm Al Qaeda and ISIS in Syria. This technically constitutes treason, which is defined as giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. Al Qaeda and ISIS are presented to the American people as our enemies in the war on terror. So why is the US Government giving them weapons?

The other scandal is not proven, but there is considerable circumstantial evidence to support it.

Back when Bill Clinton was running for his second term in the White House, he authorized the transfer of highly sensitive technology to China, drawing huge criticism in what later became known as China-gate. At the same time, large amounts of cash poured into his campaign through Chinese American citizens. Later it was revealed that much of that cash had come from Chinese intelligence agencies!

So with a past history of the Clintons treating US secrets as their own private property, to sell to whom they wished, let us now look at the combination of a private email server, outside US Government control and monitoring, with weak security and no encryption, on which are parked highly classified US secrets, ripe for the picking. Coupled with a "charitable" foundation that has seen many foreign governments make "contributions", we have the perfect set up for Hillary Clinton to have run an espionage operation right out of the US State Department!"
___________________
I have bolded the part about arms to ISIS. I didn't know it has been confirmed now, although I suspected it.

BR

From Emmental to Limburger :)

(I used to joke that American data security was like Swiss cheese.)

Gentlejim

I think he gives Hilligula too much credit. I doubt she's capable of running anything successfully.

BR

Let's see, if you can run the smear the bimbos brigade, have Vince Foster make trips to Switzerland, etc. (see Evans-Pritchard's "Secret Life..."), you can probably arrange arms to Ts.

BR

ISIS fabricated by U.S., former CIA contractor says

"Former CIA contractor Steven Kelley believes ISIS is a “completely fabricated enemy.”

In a short radio interview with Press TV last year, the whistle blower pointed out that stopping the Islamic State’s funding would be the most efficient and logical way of defeating them. The former CIA contractor said that the agency is frustrated for being asked to train the terrorist group and at the same time to combat it.

Kelley said during the telephone interview that “for people to think this enemy is something to be attacked is a farce” and added that the group is something the CIA “created and controls,” True Activist reported. He explained that ISIS was “designed to create massive amounts of fear and cause a response here at home [the U.S.]” so that “more spending and bloodshed and warfare” is authorized. Although he acknowledged the terror group is real and thousands of extremist Islamists have joined ISIS, he also believes the cold-blooded executions are staged and their purpose is to create panic so that the population begs the government to protect the country."

danoso

The GUS/Barbara/maryrose spat makes me sad. Lighten up, Francis.

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