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September 17, 2015

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narciso

No it wont, but neither did the Syrian headed Hamburg cell enter into her calculatulions.

Beasts of England

The Clinton e-mail fiasco is the gift that keeps on giving, daddy. Open kimono or not - the dishonesty can't be erased.

narciso

How do get chiefs from wolves?

Janet S.

Here's a tweet from last month -

Brant Hansen @branthansen

Genuinely wondering if there was *anything* #PlannedParenthood could do that would cause supporters to say, "OK, I need to re-think this..."


This link shows the 7th video that Fiorina was referencing - http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/justintaylor/2015/08/19/the-7th-planned-parenthood-video-4-faqs/

from an NRO post - "...at the 5:57 mark, is a baby, post-abortion, lying in a dish — its leg kicking. They will also hear Holly O’Donnell, an ex-StemExpress procurement technician who worked at Planned Parenthood Mar Monte’s Alameda Clinic in San Jose, Calif., describing how she was directed to “cut down the middle of the face” of a baby with a still-beating heart “to get the brain.” Under existing state and federal law, that’s murder."

narciso

There's another weak offering from Dougherty to fisk.

Threadkiller

August 27, 2014 Press Release, “Statement of William W. Thompson, Ph.D., Regarding the 2004 Article Examining the Possibility of a Relationship Between MMR Vaccine and Autism”


FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE-AUGUST 27,2014

 STATEMENT OF WILLIAM W. THOMPSON, Ph.D., REGARDING THE 2004 ARTICLE EXAMINING THE POSSIBILITY OF A RELATIONSHIP  BETWEEN  MMR VACCINE AND AUTISM

 My name is William Thompson.  I am a Senior Scientist with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, where I have worked since 1998.

 I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information  in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics.

 The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased  risk for autism. Decisions were made regarding which findings to report after the data were collected, and I believe that the final study protocol was not followed.

http://www.morganverkamp.com/august-27-2014-press-release-statement-of-william-w-thompson-ph-d-regarding-the-2004-article-examining-the-possibility-of-a-relationship-between-mmr-vaccine-and-autism/

This is popping up on a lot of comment boards regarding Trump's, Carson's, and Paul's vaccine answers.

Is this guy a loon or a Kim Davis?

Janet S.

Just a thought from some various posts...

When Dan Savage says this stuff he isn't called racist or misogynistic or a Christianaphobe.

Some Dan Savage articles at Newsbusters:

Gay Activist Dan Savage to Ben Carson: 'Suck My D**k'

Anti-Bullying Activist Dan Savage Curses at Christian High School Students, Calls Them 'Pansy-A--ed'

Anti-Bullying Bully Dan Savage Invites Herman Cain to Suck his D**k

Media Love Anti-bullying Bully Who Wishes Republicans Were 'All F**king Dead'

HBO 'Real Time' Guests Discuss Having Violent Hate Sex With Michele Bachmann and Rick Santorum

Why not?

and

When the protected abortion industry kills a minority woman, an immigrant from Bhutan, there is silence.

"Philadelphia, PA — Emotional testimony was heard today from two members of Karnamaya Mongar’s family who told the court about events that surrounded her overdose death during a second trimester abortion. Gosnell is charged with third degree murder for killing the 41-year old immigrant from Bhutan."

Where's the Meryl Streep movie about THAT?
Where's the "Silkwood" equivalent for women killed by Big Abortion?

Anyway...I'm so sick of double standards & selective outrage....

narciso

Seeing as the primary rebuttal was in 2010, in another journal altogether. So should children risk contracting and spreading measles mumps and rubella, on the off chance the vaccine might hAve side effects.

Daddy on the new iPhone

Where's the Meryl Streep movie about THAT?

Obviously Janet, it was "Sophie's pro-Choice"

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Is this guy a loon or a Kim Davis?--

No, because he goes on to say this;

I want to be absolutely clear that I believe vaccines have saved and continue to save countless lives. I would never suggest that any parent avoid vaccinating children of any race. Vaccines prevent serious diseases, and the risks associated with their administration are vastly outweighed by their individual and societal benefits.

Threadkiller

I think the sciency point here is if they misrepresent the off portion of the off chance nobody is truly informed enough to know what the childrens' risk actually is.

Where do I find the rebuttal?

Threadkiller

"No" to an "or" question?

:-)

Jim Miller

TK - If you are interested in the MMR controversy, here's a good place to start.

Note, please, that: "Wakefield dropped all his libel actions[77] and was ordered to pay all defendants' legal costs".

Suing for libel is easier in Britain than it is here.

(Incidentally, some years ago, I skimmed through Wakefield's original paper and thought it was so weak that Lancet never should have published it.)

narciso

Millwood was about shutting down the nuclearbindustry, the one who spread the Kerr McGhee conspiracy, the christic institute, would go on to blood libel against the contras. Ironically, scooter Libby defended armitage against an off shoot of that.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

No. He is neither a loon nor a Kim Davis. Seems apt.

--Where do I find the rebuttal?--

By the guy writing your link.
The author who pointed out the error or questionable methods should presumably have the most credibility with those using his objection and expertise as evidence and he says there may be some slight but statistically significant correlation (he does not say causation) to autism in male blacks but it is immaterial as far as the usefulness of vaccines.

jimmyk

Greg Mankiw found 12 things to like in Bush's tax plan.

Our lurker from the shores of Lake Michigan mentioned the full expensing of investment as the quid pro quo for eliminating the deduction of interest expenses. I still don't like it. If you want to end the bias toward debt, then eliminate the taxation of dividends (or let businesses deduct dividends the same as interest).

There are good things in the plan, like eliminating the estate tax, lowering the top marginal rate, etc. I suppose I'd take it over the status quo, but that one thing makes me nervous, as it's a huge change with very unpredictable effects.

Jim Miller

Oh, and 10 of the 12 authors on Wakefield's original paper have issued retractions.

Jim Miller

narciso - Did you mean "Silkwood"?

Miss Marple

Heading to bed.

Nytol!

narciso

Yes, that's it. Simplicity is the key, the tac consequences of the 86 act on real estate portfolios should be a lesson.

narciso

Jeb was in banking then real estate, and even for a time, selling drilling equipment in west africa, it's as of he's forgotten all that.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Probably sick of these fire updates but the numbers just keep going up even though it's out.
365 residences gone and two older guys who tried to ride it out dead.

Threadkiller

Narciso mentioned the primary rebuttal from 2010. That is the rebuttal I was asking about.

I understand the authors faith in vaccines as it mostly mirrors mine.

I am more concerned that he is concerned that protocol was not followed in data selection.

Was the decision to not present the correlation data made because LIVs would overreact?

Hiding data gave us a multi billion dollar climate business.

This isn't my hill to die on, I was just curious.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Tinkering with taxes is all well and good but not only doesn't address the main issue it prevents dealing with the main issue, as Reagan learned.
You cannot starve the squid. Whether revenues go up or down, as long as it lives and breathes it will be fed by its tenders, either through cash or through debt and by child sacrifice if need be.
A long-sword through its heart is the only solution and I'm guessing Jeb's sword is quite stubby and probably kinda limp.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Seemed more a particular problem with a small group studying a small group.
Don't see any indication of systemic withholding or corruption of data.

Threadkiller

Sorry to hear that, Ig. That is how it panned out down here in 2003 and 2007. After the destruction was finally tallied the next battle was survey maps vs perceived parcels. The rural areas had fences, garages, pools, and sometimes houses on neighboring land for decades with no idea. When the fires turned everything into a moonscape, battle lines were drawn, and redrawn, and redrawn...

What a mess.

Goodnight all.

Jeff Dobbs

Tonight should be a good night to explore the Berkeley pool bar scene.

narciso

Truly one has to recall why Reagan had been opposed to national health care, in all it's manifestation, more than 50 year ago. On top of that we have the epa, the gosplan that is diff Frank. Even atlas would be humbled by the regulatory and revenue leviathan.

clarice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=426&v=8xRrwHiwhU4

Heck of a great video re PP

Jeff Dobbs

I only have DrJ's cell#. I am going to do my best not to get arrested tonight.

That plan has worked for me all but just a couple of times. So the odds are with me.

Away we go!

jimmyk

You cannot starve the squid. Whether revenues go up or down, as long as it lives and breathes it will be fed by its tenders

Agreed 100%. As I asked yesterday, where's Jeb's plan to cut spending? Reagan's "cut their allowance" did have an impact on non-defense spending, but only because Reagan was President.

DrJ

Jeff, I'll turn on my cell phone. However, exdem might be a better bet, since he is closer and he is an attorney.

:)

maryrose

Planned Parenthood is in big trouble and they know it
McConnell won't go nuclear with Iran deal
Graham must be worried about holding onto the Senate for him to not go nuclear as McCain has suggested
We know Obama would veto
So Dems against freeing hostages and Israel

glasater

Jimmyk,

According to the WSJ Editorial Report - a half hour show on Fox - Jeb's tax plan would move him beyond criticism for catoring to the rich.

Jeff Dobbs

Thanks, DrJ. I'm heading up University now. Let's just roll the dice.

I promise not to call you.

I can fight my way out of whatever winnings I legitimately earn. I don't shark anyone to the point they think I scammed them.

Onward!

(I'm leaving now, but Berkeley Public is the pool hall I saw using google...if you know of another, let me know...)

simply stupid

Surprised that Bush went after Trump for Hillary and Bill being at Trump's Wedding. Did not Bush present Hillary with the Liberty Medal from the Constitution Center in 2013. Jeb could have taken a pass on presenting.

Still think Fiorino is a stalking horse for JEB to do the dirty work on Hillary. With Jeb somewhat stumbling Fiorina comes into play. The GOPe is stupid to think that the base would even entertain a Bush dynasty.

jimmyk

glasater, that's already been disproven, as fake economist Jared Bernstein, for example, has said the plan makes "absolutely huge, regressive changes," and is "Reverse Robin Hood."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/09/jeb-bushs-new-tax-plan-a-revenue-eating-wolf-in-sheeps-clothing/

When will Republicans learn that nothing moves them beyond criticism for catering to the rich, so they might as well do what's right. W's cuts were weighted more heavily toward lower income earners, and he still got reamed by the left.

DrJ

Jeff,

What now is Berkeley Public used to be my favorite Lebanese restaurant. Times change...

In any event, it is in the heart of the Berkeley student ghetto, just off of Telegraph Ave. It should make for interesting people watching.

Jeff Dobbs

DrJ, Berkeley Public is closed for renovations, based on my scouting report.

I am at a loss now. No pool for me.

Heading back to the hotel, oh well, look on the bright side, no one gets arrested.

rich@gmu

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/widespread-fraud-at-u.s.-census-bureau/article/2572348

the corruption just doesn't seem to stop.

glasater

Thanks, jimmyk

No drawings in this quarterly.

So, n, Libby defended Armitage. Twisting, twisting, slowly, as in a press.

daddy  (Vote for Pedro!)

Clarice,

Just watched first, Janet's unbelievably sad video, then your video.

Why is it that the media and the Left demand we believe that there is no way these PP employees would dismember and sell body parts to make money, when just 6 years ago Obama was running around the country emphatically telling us that we had to push thru ObamaCare for the very fact that Doctor's were greedy and wanted to do Medical procedures in order to make money.

Obama: OBAMA: Right now doctors a lot of times are forced to make decisions based on the fee payment schedule that's out there. So if they're looking and -- and you come in and you've got a bad sore throat or your child has a bad sore throat or has repeated sore throats, the doctor may look at the reimbursement system and say to himself, "You know, what? I make a lot more money if I take this kid's tonsils out."

Obama: OBAMA: If a family care physician works with his or her patient to help them lose weight, modify diet, monitors whether they're taking their medications in a timely fashion, they might get reimbursed a pittance. But if that same diabetic ends up getting their foot amputated, that's 30,000, 40, $50,000 immediately the surgeon is reimbursed.

So how is it that Doctors are all greedy a**holes wanting to make money, if they can finagle to perform procedures on patients that can get second opinions and that can sue them, but if they're Planned Parenthood Abortionists who work totally unobserved and unsupervised, on victims that cannot speak up or fight back, suddenly those Doc's are all wonderful angels who wouldn't have greedy Kermit Gosnell thought in their minds in a million years.

So if you're a Diabetes specialist, you're a greedy bastard.

If you're an Ear, Nose, and Throat pediatrician, you're a greedy bastard.

But if you're an Abortionist, you're as trustworthy as Albert Schweitzer.

Amazing how the mind of the Left works.

BR

_404_

That's a catastrophe with amputated feet.

Fenestre, blesse.

daddy, it's a window to his mind, and the view is not pretty.

BR

Oh, if they only knew they're all sitting in a little petri dish in an ad hoc universe created to assemble all evil and vanish it. I'm sort of satiated on schadenfreude.

daddy  (Vote for Pedro!)

A month ago Hillary refused to tell us what her position was on the Keystone Pipeline. Well apparently she finally made one of those "Hard Choices" she's always talking and writing about, so this is what she told us last night in a Town Hall in Concord New Hampshire, about whether or not she supports the The Keystone Pipeline Project: (My transcription of her remarks on a "Breaking News" segment just aired on FOX)

Hillary: I have been waiting for the Administration to make a decision. I thought I owed them that. I worked in the Administration, I started the process that uhhh, is supposed to lead to a decision. I can't wait too much longer, and I am putting the White House on notice, I'm going to tell you what I think soon, because I can't wait.

So there you have it!

henry

Daddy, it takes time to focus group territory to the left of Bernie. It takes more time to hide the fact of using focus groups. Add on the inevitable time for a finger in the wind. Then, only then, do we get "look squirrel!"

henry

Rich, note the Census bureau reports to the White House... not the Dept of Commerce where it sat before Obama. It is an arm of OFA today, and that IG report reflects that.

daddy  (Vote for Pedro!)

Okay,

I have been waiting for the dogs to get off the rug and make a decision about whether it's time to go upstairs to bed. I think I owe them that. I walked the dogs for their midnight pee, I started the process that uhhh, is supposed to lead to a decision about going to bed. I can't wait too much longer, so I am putting them on notice, that I'm going to tell you what I think about going up to bed soon, because I can't wait.

So there you have it!

Beasts of England

So Jeff didn't get to hustle some of that sweet hippie cash on the felt in Berkeley last night?

GUS

Beasts, I don't believe Jeff accepts EBT cards as payment.

GUS

Wouldn't it be nice if Rodham had her thoughts on Keystone published from behind bars? We are simply fucked as a nation if any sizable portion of the electorate would vote for this pile of crap.

daddy  (Vote for Pedro!)

Morning Henry,

Thinking a bit more about Abortion Doctors being non-greedy Saints, while all the other Docs are inclined to money grubbing, it strikes me that I've never heard of a Doctor shying away from practicing Diabetes type medicine, or Ear Nose Throat type medicine, or Cancer specialities, or any other type of medicine due to moral or ethical qualms. Yet in the singular field of Abortion, I am under the impression that there are hundreds if not thousands of examples of Doctors who oppose performing abortions, due to moral, or ethical or religious based qualms.

So that being the case, it makes the argument, that regular doctors are money grubbers while Abortion Doctors all act like Saints, even more ludicrous. Yet that is what they would have us believe.

Oh well. The dogs still haven't made a decision, so I think by tomorrow morning I just might be able to tell you guys if I'm heading up to bed tonight. I thought I owed that to them. They're now on double secret notice.

Beasts of England

The last load of coal was delivered to TVA's Widows Creek power plant about thirty minutes from my lake house. After it closes, the Googlebots will be building a $600M data processing facility on the site. I haven't yet figured out a way to tap into that cash influx, but maybe I can be their BBQ consultant...

Beasts of England

Probably not, GUS. And smelly tie-dyed shirts aren't fungible, either.

GUS

I wonder how many BERNIE buttons Jeff saw.

Jack is Back!

God but I hate this vaxx discussion especially when it includes two distinguished surgeons. But isn't their main distinction the bundling of the MMR instead of individual, phased vaccinations? At least that is what I thought I heard from Carson. Paul on the other hand has the Libertarian view of individual decision versus a compelled decision by government.

I missed what the moron's opinion was?

Beasts of England

So I'm flipping through the channels this morning and on one of the shopping networks they're selling some random kitchen implement and I notice that it's sitting on a shark fin cutting board. And before I can process why, they bring out soap dispensers that play Jimmy Buffett songs.

I'm not in the habit of goofing on fellow entrepreneurs, fellow Alabamians, or fellow musicians, but Jimmy has truly jumped the shark fin cutting board.

rich@gmu

henry-

there was a story that never got picked up about fake surveys that census contractors (employees) had filled out in the lead up to 2012 ... and so it goes. iirc the WH didn't fully get its way regarding the move and it was Commerce's IG detailing the bill padding scam. pretty sure the director and the administration are as mad as anyone but only read the news in the papers.

fed keeps rates unchanged looks like the markets are going to puke a bit this morning (too much celebrating).

Captain Hate on the iPhone

I think some of the earlier comments on what Levin said about Fiorina were like reading an essay test question answer from somebody who read the classic comic book version of War and Peace.

GUS

Jack. His opinion is he's really really wealthy and people LOVE HIM. MEXICANS JUST LOVE HIM. AND....he'll pick really smart people to build that fence that Mexico is paying for.

Is that the MORON you were referring too?

Miss Marple

Good morning!

QVC and HSN are lucrative dependable income sources for celebrities past their prime. Cher had some make-up line, Joan Rivers had a jewelry collection, etc.

Did you know there are TV shopping addicts? My auctioneer has been auctioning off thousands of dollars worth of stuff from a storage locker. I mean HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars worth of stuff. A woman got hooked on it and took out credit cards without telling her husband. She would buy stuff and not even use it, just take it to the storage unit. He didn't find out until the storage company's rent was missed and they called.

She had to get psychiatric help and the auctioneer got called to sell the stuff.

If you watch those shows (which I occasionally do when I have insomnia) they have a way of making the viewer feel like they are friends with them, have them call in and tell about what they bought. Very often you will hear a caller say "I have this ring in red and green so I just had to have the blue one" and such.

It's sort of scary. There is a woman who has a box at the UPS store where she gets stuff delivered. I think she is an addict, too.

rich@gmu

even the Vatican is upset at the guest selection for Pope Francis' White House visit

http://www.wsj.com/articles/vatican-disputes-white-house-guest-list-for-papal-visit-1442533549

suppose inviting the Insane Clown Posse would have been a bot too much for the Clown in Chief.

Miss Marple

So, here's a new way to make money. Until a couple of weeks ago I didn't realize this was a big business:

http://cbs4indy.com/2015/09/18/depauw-student-making-six-figures-off-fantasy-sports/

anonamom

Re: vaccines. We are talking herd protection here---balancing overall morbidity and mortality versus any single individual's.

Bluntly---if your baby gets blitzed in saving two from being blitzed, they'll keep on immunizing.

My kids were immunized, pretty much on schedule. (I'm not the greatest about making appointments ahead of time.) But they got somewhere between 1/2-2/3rds of what they give little ones now, and IIRC, the autism/MMR fake literature was just coming out AFTER they were immunized. I fail to see why an infant needs Hept B vaccine the day after they are born, as it is a body fluid transmitted virus, unless the parents are drug addicts.But I know they will argue that they can't know I am not a drug addict, or that grandma isn't, let alone the day care lady.
That's their thinking.

Sadly, with all the faked "scientific literature" that has been exposed, I no longer believe anybody about anything. Much of the literature supporting narcotics for chronic pain relief was shown a few years ago to be doctored--but not til after how many addicts were created? I haven't had a dog in this fight, in that there are no grandchildren, but as I recently became a great aunt, guess it's time to reacquaint myself with what is out there.

I can tell you that obstetrics in this country as generally practiced is essentially ass backwards. Most are still confining laboring women to bed with external fetal monitoring, which has been know for thirty years now to not be beneficial to outcome in uncomplicated pregnancies. Lying in bed does nothing but slow labor down.
Fetal ultrasound can be a gift from God, but has never been studied to see what temperature levels are reach in rapidly developing fetal tissue--whether it is "safe"---and is used with abandon by some. Our c/section rate is ridiculous, but I don't think young OBs know how to deliver babies who don't just pop out. Thank you lawyers, John Edwards especially here in NC, and insane malpractice laws.

But as far as "safety" of the vaccination schedule, which the NPR was touting yesterday evening--it takes many years to determine that, and hundreds of thousands of data points, right Dr. J?

GUS

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-pope-franciss-visit-white-house-sees-a-chance-to-transcend-politics/2015/09/17/af60fbf4-5d60-11e5-8e9e-dce8a2a2a679_story.html

Did anyone else see this UTTER BULLSHIT.

Obama is inviting a PRO-ABORTION NUN to the "get together". Nothing could be more opposite the HEADLINE.

If Obama wants to be such a big fucking man, why doesn't he invite a PRO-HAM SANDWICH MUZZLIM to the party?

rich@gmu

bot ->bit

Janet S.

Clarice's 11:44 video is very good.
At around the 7 min. mark they make the point about a conflict of interest.
If the abortionists are the "counselors"...& they make money off of performing abortions & selling the baby parts. Hmmmmm...I wonder what the advice will be?

daddy, Great comments!

GUS

Rich.....Obama is a sick mother fucker. He has serious psychological issues.

rich@gmu

gus-

and so it goes. why it makes it seem as though Zero would rather demagogue issues than actually find common ground. unsurprising he'd invite a clown car full of commies and wierdos, so there you go.

DebinNC

Re invitees to Pope Francis' visit to the WH, all 15,000 of them will be outside on the South Lawn. And his meeting-and-greeting them, beyond a smile and a wave from afar, doesn't seem to be on the menu. It's all about Pete Souza's pics with BOzo, bowed head and seemingly deferential, sitting beside the Pope or, better yet, kneeling to receive his blessing.

anonamom

I guess Roger Simon and I watched The Donald Trump Show
(aka THe Republican Debate) through the same glasses.

Agree--sadly, IRT to both Scott Walker and Chris Christie:

http://pjmedia.com/diaryofamadvoter/2015/09/18/power-rankings/

Janet S.

Boy...this video is brutal too.

Addressing, point by point, Cecile Richards apology with clips of what PP does.
It is brutal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Htcqhdf4WBE

the tweet again -

Brant Hansen @branthansen

Genuinely wondering if there was *anything* #PlannedParenthood could do that would cause supporters to say, "OK, I need to re-think this..."

rich@gmu

it is 8 in the morning, gus, and my morning coffee hasn't quite kicked in for me to start dropping the f- bombs, but yeah, he's gaslighting us.

Beasts of England

@Miss Marple: that doesn't surprise me. I've occasionally paused on one of those stations when Puck is promoting some kitchen device. He's very charismatic and I'm often trying to glean some recipe or cooking idea that he invariably offers up and I enjoy it. Never bought a thing.

What blows my mind are the call-ins and the quantities of the items sold. The most recent installment that I saw Puck present was for a cookware assortment. He had the callers believing that they would magically become culinary titans after buying his pans. And on that show, he had sold over 30,000 sets at ~$200 per. About six million in sales in thirty minutes. Maybe I'm jealous? :)

Miss Marple

I have long said that Obama's desire is to make the Church bow to the will of the State.

This is all about him getting the Pope to come to HIM, and the guest list is there to show the Church that HE will have the final say.

I fully expect a multi-pronged disaster with this visit. Philadelphia is going to be a giant mob seen and probably the Black LivesMatter crowd will insert themselves. Possible riots.

Then the Pope will probably tell us how we need to freeze in the dark to be good Christians, plus we should take in millions of Muslims from the refugee crisis.

And then we will probably see a cringe-worthy White House visit.

This doesn't even include the possibility of terrorists and nut cases.

That is my personal feeling about this.

jimmyk

Sadly, with all the faked "scientific literature" that has been exposed, I no longer believe anybody about anything.

Not just that, but the politicization of science (global warming, etc.) has badly damaged its reputation. Influential doctors have resisted changing their views on things like diet (continuing to argue, for example, that even healthy non-obese kids should have low-fat diets), seemingly out of habit or because they can't admit they were wrong.

I am pro-vaccination, and think that many people just have a hard time dealing with the concept of balancing risks, but the way doctors close ranks and push even new vaccines before there's a long track record is troublesome. Particularly vaccines that arguably aren't as essential, like for Chicken Pox. Sharyl Attkisson has a bunch of stories on her web site along these lines.

Extraneus

The Ig Nobel Prize winners were announced yesterday. Coincidentally, one went to someone studying...

MATHEMATICS PRIZE — Elisabeth Oberzaucher [AUSTRIA, GERMANY, UK] and Karl Grammer [AUSTRIA, GERMANY], for trying to use mathematical techniques to determine whether and how Moulay Ismael the Bloodthirsty, the Sharifian Emperor of Morocco, managed, during the years from 1697 through 1727, to father 888 children.

Apparently it's mathematically possible if, over a 30-year reign, the sultan had sex daily, and it could have been managed with just 65 women, far fewer than the 500 in his harem.

Miss Marple

Beasts, I sure wish I had thought of that TV shopping idea.

I believe that the people who started it are multi-millionaires.

Extraneus

Also of note...

LITERATURE PRIZE — Mark Dingemanse [THE NETHERLANDS, USA], Francisco Torreira [THE NETHERLANDS, BELGIUM, USA], and Nick J. Enfield [AUSTRALIA, THE NETHERLANDS], for discovering that the word "huh?" (or its equivalent) seems to exist in every human language — and for not being quite sure why.
Extraneus

In case you decide not to visit the link, here's yet another new bit of knowledge:

PHYSICS PRIZE — Patricia Yang [USA and TAIWAN], David Hu [USA and TAIWAN], and Jonathan Pham, Jerome Choo [USA], for testing the biological principle that nearly all mammals empty their bladders in about 21 seconds (plus or minus 13 seconds).

The winners all received a $10 trillion bill from Zimbabwe, valued at approximately $2 US.

Buckeye

jimmyk

My physician son thinks the closing ranks phenomenon is a responce to malpractice litigation.

Beasts of England

I never thought much about them at all until I saw my first Wolfgang show several years ago and started doing the math. Running 24 hours a day, they obviously rack up huge (yuuuge?) sales volume.

I read the story a while back about how one of them started. If I remember correctly, some advertising guy got stuck with a lot of a certain product and took to public access tv to try and recoup his money. The segment was very successful and it mushroomed from there. Or something like that...

Buckeye

ext

Any mammal with an enlarged prostate knows that sometimes it takes waaaaaay over 21 + 13 seconds to empty your bladder.

Ask me how I know!

rich@gmu

Miss Marple-

the white house is taking care of the nut cases ... a whole grove full of them.

just revolting.

narciso

True but the mms vaccine has been around since 1963 no, some things like the hpv one are newer, it just seems we are discarding basic health protocols.

Extraneus

Trump takes heat for not correcting man who called Obama Muslim, not American

rich@gmu

lol ... this never gets old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw

zero himself gets confused.

narciso

Is it just me, or are these latest Nobel offerings on the lame side of things.

henry

How could they be lamer than the "One" they now regret?

henry

Although if you are referring to the "Ig Nobel" prizes... that would be their point.

rse

California appealing to SCOTUS http://www.citylab.com/housing/2015/09/taking-inclusionary-zoning-all-the-way-to-scotus/405934/ whether insisting a % of units must be set aside for low income residents in order to get a building permit amounts to a taking.

Notes that Chicago is pushing a similar vision and other areas want to.

On whether Carly is a stalking horse, yesterday after the debate I kept getting copied about a Craig Barrett of Arizona holding fundraisers for her and his ties to Achieve and charter schools, I was a bit frustrated that no one recognized him as the former ceo of Intel. That seemed far more pertinent as former tech heads. When I pulled Barrett's bio off of Basis Schools' website, it includes him being a member of the Skolkovo Foundation Council (thus tied to my last two posts), an education advisor to Clinton Global Initiative, and part of a UN ICT Board.

That fits with the same emphases I picked up on when I read the report Jeb chaired for the Aspen Institute. It called for what had been laid out at the UN Sakhalin Conference without mentioning that link.

The truth is their is a global Post-2015 vision for what the world ought to be and most candidates on either party's list seemed to be tied to it when we dig deep enough.

James D

Ext @ 8:45

I'm willing to bet Trump doesn't apologize. The statement the article quoted wasn't really an apology, and I wouldn't expect one to be forthcoming.

rse

http://www.govtech.com/Obama-Places-160-Million-Bet-on-Smart-Cities-Internet-of-Things.html

Since I get the analytics papers from the companies selling this vision and the hoped-for aspirations from the local governments, this is all tied to the same welfare state/we will govern you completely vision. They need the data to make the focus of governments as meeting all huamn needs, tangible and intangible.

Jack is Back!

Ex's 8:21 is a must see if only for the photo of Paul Krugman wearing a bra as a improv face mask. Paging TM, paging TM.

narciso

sorry I didn't check, but in this pythonesque world, would one be surprised, what concerns me about this pope, is that his pronouncement are startlingly devoid of scriptural support, like the skydragon watching one,

it's upsetting that trump fell for this lysenkoist
claptrap about vaccines, but then again zaphod and red queen trafficked in this garbage,

henry

rse, don't forget the all-important colorful tracking color Jim is putting on the rhino smart watch cool kids are lining up for and schools will fund for student "health" and "physical activity" reasons.

Miss Marple

Beasts,

Those Wolfgang Puck pans show up at the auction (including the ones from the shopping addict, which were new).

They are not nearly as nice as one would think.

Marlene

Good Morning! We've had beautiful late summer weather here,probably the warmest temps of the season.
I lurked yesterday,I was in a foul mood after returning from the dentist and finding out I need a root canal. Fun fact,our dentist was a funeral director in an earlier career and in an even earlier career he was a bar owner. Interesting guy and a great dentist.
Re vaccines: the Maine CDC has released data for the 2014-2015 school year for kindergarten,first grade and 7th grade. A parent can go to the website and search a city or town and get information for their child's school.

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