What Time Is It? It's Time To Blow Up The Clock Story!

Ace recaps the Ahmed "cool clock" story and the hoax angle, but the best line came from Judge Napolitano on Fox News:

“It now appears as though this was a purposeful hoax," Napolitano told Fox News' Megyn Kelly Monday.

...

"If this was part of a purposeful stunt and if the parents were involved in this and if everybody from Mark Zuckerberg to President Obama fell for this, this is not good," Napolitano said.

Well, it's not good for me personally because I am sure to hurt myself laughing. Although I am also at risk of dying of shock if the Protective Media ever reported this. We walk a fine line.

WHO'S LAUGHING (OR HAVING A HEART ATTACK) NOW? The Dallas Morning News at least listens to some of the noise, although they were too early for the revelation that the older sister had apparently been suspended from middle school in the same district three years ago for making a bomb threat. So let me set up my bonus conspiracy theory: the clock (seemingly a re-assembled alarm clock) went off in Ahmed's English class attracting the teacher's attention and starting this imbroglio.

Well. Class schedules are predictable and alarm clocks normally go off when they are supposed to. So, is there any chance this English teacher was involved in the suspension of the aggrieved big sister? Privacy laws prevent the school or the police from releasing the relevant reports, but that shouldn't stop Stephen Colbert from asking about it. No, of course he won't, but Daniel Payne of The Federalist has suggested some questions for any intrepid reporters out there.

Comments

[rse]

Glad you posted on this. The ed publications are doing everything to make sure students see this as a poor Ahmed, never question anyone Muslim story.

They use the word preposterous a lot. I am thinking this generation may hear the word preposterous and associate it with Ahmed and his clock.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Ok. One minute there was a what can obama give putin thread and the next there wasn't. What gives?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Can we deport the entire family?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

So Dondi decided to go on the offensive against Trump just when I thought he might not be so GOPe..

[Beasts of England]

Who here said it was a purposeful hoax immediately? Here's a hint: he owns a boat and drinks PBR.

[Porchlight]

Obama didn't fall for anything. He was in on it.

CAIR was there before anyone could snap their fingers. Do you think the CAIR leadership doesn't have a direct line to Jarrett?

Do you think it's a coincidence that this happened in Irvine, where the mayor is already being targeted by Muslim activist groups for being anti-Sharia? Muslim activists like Ahmed's dad?

[Extraneus]

Privacy laws prevent the school or the police from releasing the relevant reports

Unless the parents approve, which they haven't. Why not if it was so unfair?

The Irving mayor says we'd know a lot more about why the police arrested him if the report was (were?) released.

[Beasts of England]

And I'm not saying that I have ESPN or something; I'm just saying that these rats perpetuate the same carp over and over again and anyone who's paying attention half the time can see the truth immediately.

[Porchlight]

And I'm not saying that I have ESPN or something

lol

[Porchlight]

sorry, Irving not Irvine; the mayor of Irvine probably doesn't have enough sense to be anti-sharia.

[Beasts of England]

Of course we can't deport them, Captain. The Pope says that we'd be extremists if we did.

[henry]

The good people of Irving should leave bacon at Mohamed's door and mailbox to help them with their pain. Bacon always makes me feel better.

[new lurker]

Shemp has preempted The Five again to show The Pope landing on the tarmac in NY! When will this stop?

[Beasts of England]

Bacon, boobies, Bowser, and beer, henry. h/t: lyle.

[maryrose]

Henry
You are so funny
Beasts
Everything in this life is not this Pope's fault

[Threadkiller]

I heard Obama is having Clock-Ahmed save Christmas.

The tower will soon play the sweetest sounds...

[maryrose]

new lurker
History in the making always takes precedence over dull ordinary news

[maryrose]

Biggest beneficiary of this is Hillary whose 100th lie about her emails has been revealed
Biggest loser
Trump
Whose propensity for mean nasty comments appears to have no end

[Beasts of England]

He said that very thing today, maryrose. Your logical fallacies are becoming tedious.

[new lurker]

Well, maryrose, I don't think a Pope landing on the tarmac in NY is history in the making.

[maryrose]

Having their scam revealed will just Obama as the chump we have always known him to be
Gus the Pope does not associate with the devil

[Porchlight]

The devil can work on the Pope just as he can work on any other mortal, maryrose. The Pope is not divine.

[God]

This pope was foreseen....

"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

[daddy]

Obama didn't fall for anything. He was in on it.

Yep.

[GUS]

Maryrose, I'm fine with the Pope minding THE CHURCH. I am a devout Catholic, but I am not a MARXIST. Pope Frank IS a Marxist.
Btw Maryrose, my only begotten son, attends a JESUIT HIGH SCHOOL.
This Pope is espousing FUKTARDESQUE economic ideas. Name ONE COUNTRY that isn't Capitalistic that FUNDS anything good on planet earth. ONE.
Did Russia, China, Bulgaria, Czech, East Germany et al HELP ANYONE????
Capitalism, from Greece, the Roman Empire, and on to the 21st Century is the ONLY WAY anyone has ever had MONEY to aid the needy.
Pope Breshnev should learn something. Or maybe he could read us the GOSPEL and go home.

[Sue]

Weird. First the Pope quotes himself then God does the same thing.

[Tom Maguire]

One minute there was a what can obama give putin thread and the next there wasn't. What gives?

No post before it's time, on a good day anyway. But you weren't seeing things - that one will be along eventually.

[maryrose]

New Lurker
It is to the people meeting him
I let my class I was teaching in high school watch the Inauguration of President Clinton even though. I voted for Bush because it was historical
This Pope Francis is older this could be his only experience here
Beasts
Defending my faith and beliefs is not tiresome
Your exploits on the other hand....

[Extraneus]

From the end of the last thread:

http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-arrests-chinese-millionaire-once-tied-clinton-scandal-155514629--abc-news-topstories.html?soc_src=mediacontentstory&soc_trk=fb

Posted by: clarice | September 24, 2015 at 05:36 PM

clarice
Vatican has strictest immigration policy in the world:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/24/pope-call-immigration-unlikely-change-debate/

Posted by: clarice | September 24, 2015 at 05:37 PM

[Sue]

I'm shocked the Vatican is a do as I say not as I do kind of place.

[GUS]

Oh Maryrose, let she who hath no sin......................

[maryrose]

Should be not tiresome to me

[Beasts of England]

You should be ashamed of yourself, maryrose. How dare you?

[new lurker]

maryrose, Just why was a president's inauguration historical? It happens every four years.
I must admit I am fed up with what this Pope is trying to do. He is to speak, according to Shemp, to the UN tomorrow with meetings with the Human Rights Committee, and I am sure it will be immigration and climate change all the time! And, I honestly do not see why the Pope did not address PP more forcefully and abortion. I think he has an agenda, and I do not like it.

[maryrose]

Gus
Believe me in regard to you I am biting my tongue
I am still waiting for an apology for your over the top nasty comments toward me on the Brady thread

[Extraneus]

this could be his only experience here

Let's hope so.

[Frau Gehirnerschütterung]

Who started the anti-Benedict XVI campaign at your school, maryrose? I find that hateful. Benedict is exactly the kind of humble, pure follower of Christ I think of as pope material. Miss Marple answered his call. Not too many have appeared with his credentials imho. He even dared mention the history of Islam. Were your colleagues supporters of liberation theology? The protestant religious left supported it.

My favorite popes: John XXIII (I know, I know, but the self-described "Strong Fork" was an earthy man of the people); John Paul II and Papa Razi.

[new lurker]

Ditto, Ex.

[POPE GUS]

Sue, I'm sorry, I would have replied sooner but....chomp chomp chomp, my mouth was full of LOBSTER. We near get LOBSTER on POPE FORCE ONE. Pope Force One is wind turbine powered, and when I go to COMMIE NATIONS, I congratulate them on their PEACE MISSIONS.
The Castros fed me well too. They are "the bomb".

Maryrose, you were not defending your/our faith, you were defending Pope Francis assinine Marxist proclivities.
When the Pope writes his first 2 memoirs, one will be "Dreams from my Bishop", followed by "THE AUDACITY of CLIMATE CHANGE". He should stick to the CATECHISM and the GOSPEL

[henry]

What can Obama give Putin? Besides obvious things like Alaska and the North Pole oil fields? I don't know, a digital picture frame with all his selfies?

I'm ready for that thread TM, and it's 5:00 somewhere.

[Beasts of England]

And another non sequitur, maryrose? I was never talking about you defending your faith. I was talking about your fallacies of logic.

[Porchlight]

Benedict was a giant.

[Extraneus]

He even dared mention the history of Islam.

But then he backed down, almost immediately, even though everything he said was true and needed to be said.

I took it as a reaction to the likelihood that more Christians would have been killed than have been killed otherwise.

[maryrose]

New lurker
Because it only happens to that person at that particular time
My students were African Americans who wanted to see and experience it in real time
Beasts
You can dish it out but you can't take it

[Buckeye]

When does the Pope go home?

[POPE GUS]

Maryrose, what comment am I to apologize for?
I am willing to apologize, let me know.
As for biting your tongue. Bring it.

[maryrose]

Frau
I was happy about Pope Benedict and was surprised at how the nuns thought he was too conservative

[Sick O]

Those who are guilty often move to the left to detract from issues...GOP governors raise welfare or end the death penalty to distract from their own sins. Pope Francis presents falsehoods to the uneducated (i.e. lefty) masses to detract from the perverted, homosexual, pedophile priests that have populated (and populate?) the catholic church.

[new lurker]

Not soon enough, Buckeye.

[maryrose]

It was a personal direct nasty comment on the Brady thread
It really surprised me by its ferocity

[James D.]

Well, I will admit I was wrong about the clock story. From everything that's come out, it clearly wasn't an overreaction by the school or the police.

If he brought it in with the intent to scare teachers or classmates, then he deserved to be taken off to the police station, and the school acted exactly correctly.

[Beasts of England]

You don't want to fight with me, maryrose. You've already shown absolutely no discipline of reason. And your sanctimony is vulgar and hardly Christian. I'll ignore your class envy for the moment...

[POPE GUS]

Maryrose, apparently you DISH IT, and when you get called on it, you hide behind biting your tongue and Tom Brady.
I think you have a lot to offer, but I'm not going to play silly games with you. If you don't like me or if you disagree with me, REFUTE me.
Let's get something straight. I am as CATHOLIC as you. Pope Francis is a our PRELATE and is infallible in MATTERS OF THE CHURCH. When Pope Francis start bloviating Marxist tripe, he is not acting as my Pope. He is acting as a dupe for MARXISTS who would destroy America and the only ECONONIC SYSTEM that has anything to give. Ask Pope Francis how the POOR are doing in ARGENTINA.

[Rick Ballard]

new lurker,

I don't expect to hear much fulsome praise for the filthy running dog capitalists who generate the surplus necessary to fund the HRC in its mission to reduce the entire world to the squalid, corrupt and absolutely venal state of the continent from whence he came. I won't know for sure because I can think of nothing which would induce me to pay more than absolutely minimal attention to utterances based upon truly abysmal ignorance.

[DrJ]

Goodness is it hot in here today. I think I'll check back in when I have a glass of vino in hand.

[POPE GUS]

Maryrose, what comment are you referring to.
I will not ask again.
If you want to play victim, I'm not playing.

[henry]

Why an airplane landing was BREAKING NEWS... Hillary approved Huma's special status and all the conflicts of interest involved in it. At this rate we'll see Hillary in a PP video wielding a knife on a live birth while somebody is visiting the UN or eating a pretzel in Times Square or something.

[Extraneus]

I said it on the last thread, but seriously...

If the Pope were speaking for God, he would have nuked Planned Parenthood.

Ergo, he isn't, and doesn't.

Right before a congressional battle, he could have made a difference. What more important thing could a Pope do than use his influence to fight for the lives of the unborn? What more evil thing is there to fight against in the US?

Climate change, even if it's happening, isn't evil. If there's a Satan, he has nothing to do with CO2.

Immigration? Is Mexico evil?

I think I'll move from saying I'm Catholic to saying I was raised Catholic.

[lyle]

Not soon enough, Buckeye! All this JOM bickering makes lyle drink more!

[Porchlight]

Right before a congressional battle, he could have made a difference. What more important thing could a Pope do than use his influence to fight for the lives of the unborn? What more evil thing is there to fight against in the US?

And in Cuba, too.

He could have made a huge difference. Well, perhaps he has, but not in a good way.

[GUS]

Henry, you must have missed the e-mail. Rodham has changed issues. She is against the Keystone Pipeline. This corruption, e-mail, Top Secret/classified stuff is old.....she's already "ACCEPTED RESPONSIBILITY". We need to move on. No more SMEARING of HUMA either.

[maryrose]

Gus
My husband attended aJesuit high school as his did his brother and my nephew
I know how they think in regard to social justice
Sue
The Pope is referring to his encyclical much like a professor would to his findings or writings
It is ok if you don't buy my interpretation
Everyone gets to have their own experience
I prefer a positive one

[new lurker]

You are so right, porch. He has made a huge difference and not in a good way. I am sick when I see all the bishops on the television espousing how wonderful and good the Pope is. Perhaps, but he has another political side which I do not like. I do not think it appropriate.

[Jack is Back!]

So, all you experts on Benedict, what was his stance on immigration in America. I mean he was a giant, right?

He did not have any different a position than Francis, BTW.

[GUS]

I am still CATHOLIC and this Holy Father blubbering about how nice the CASTO's are, and how we need to reduce our economy so we can give money that we WON'T HAVE to all of these poor people who will have no jobs, because we've destroyed Capitalism............global warming....etc etc....WILL NOT CHANGE THAT. The Holy Roman and Apostolic Church has survived over 2000 years. Pope Francis' personal feelings on ECONOMICS and NON-EXISTANT global warming are his PERSONAL OPINIONS. If he changes the CHURCH and our CATECHISM, we will revisit my love and support of him.
Maryrose, you are a fine woman, I'm sorry your feelings are hurt over the Pope being criticized. He has ZERO KNOWLEDGE of what he speaks, and what he DOES HAVE KNOWLEDGE and CONTROL of, should be in the FOREFRONT.
Hugging Hugo, and Fidel is a NON-STARTER. The 2 of them are merchants of death and have STOMPED on freedom of Religion for 50 years. Yet OUR CAPITALISM and GLOBAL WARMING are his MESSAGE.

[Extraneus]

CNN microphone catches woman's plot to throw shoe at Pope Francis' head

[clarice]

ey, I called it a fairytale Sunday (article written and submitted Saturday morning.)

[lyle]

Is this the Bigoted Xenophobe Anonymous thread?

[Beasts of England]

Again, if he had, uh, pontificated on love and charity then we would have all given him kudos and moved on. Instead, he cited the Gospel of Lenin in toto and made some new and strident enemies.

[maryrose]

You called me an F---ing
something
Maybe Hit still has the thread to prove it

[Jack is Back!]

Pope Benedict on Capitalism.

Show me where it is any different than Francis?

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2013/01/01/pope-benedict-slams-capitalism-economic-inequality

But commentors like SD see ths as ihe unvraveling of the church in Amerirca. Maybe his parish but not mine and it is the most conservative diocese in America as well as the first.

[Extraneus]

Congressman says Francis should win Nobel Peace Prize

Rep. Adam Schiff, California Democrat, will distribute the letter ahead of the pope’s address to a joint meeting of Congress Thursday, his office said, citing the pontiff’s work on human rights and refugees as deserving of the global honor.

“Pope Francis has been a powerful advocate for peace, urging an end to conflict and support for constitutive ties among nations,” Mr. Schiff writes in the letter to the Nobel committee. “He has called on the world to use diplomacy and discussion to solve disputes, rather than military force, coercion or intimidation. This commitment to nonviolence, which the Pope has put into practice every day through his words and actions, is at the core of the principles behind the Nobel Peace Prize.”

The letter also cites the pope’s work to call the world to action combatting global warming.

No pope has ever won the prize.

Adam Schiff.

[Beasts of England]

You forgot Climate Change Deniers, lyle. Do keep up. :)

[GUS]

Maryrose, YES, Marquette University High is quite upfront about SOCIAL JUSTICE. My son is quite aware of Jesuit Philosophy. Too much good in Jesuits to be ultra critical of the bad. And they drink lots of beer from my experience.

[Threadkiller]

TRUMP FIGHTS, SO TRUMP LEADS
Why Donald Trump succeeds — and others like Scott Walker are failing.

http://spectator.org/articles/64161/trump-fights-so-trump-leads

[I can comment @ Judy's again, but don't have the old fire.]

OK, since it's so hot, I'll stick my toe in the water.

I've long considered homosexuality to be exuberant and luxurious. It is exuberant, because were not human sexuality so exuberant as to take in many manifestations, we'd have died out long ago. It is luxurious because it's only widely accepted in wealthy societies. When the survival of the tribe depended upon reproduction, it's suppressed.

It is a human variant, perhaps akin to the connection between madness and genius.

And yes, most of us know more homosexuals now than we did in the past, if only because fewer are closeted. Many homosexuals are very nice people, too, so there is that. I'll be sorry when the luxury ends, as it may well.

My idiosyncratic view. I don't put it out very often, because few understand, and, of course, because such an idiosyncrasy is being squelched deliberately in an unnecessary overreaction.

Can't wait until RICO is deployed against homophobes.

[maryrose]

Porch
It would not have made a difference
Today I the Senate Heller Murkowski and Paul voted against it

[Threadkiller]

The towelhead boy-toy zone of Afghanistan is luxurious?

[Jack is Back!]

BTW, where Benedict was different on the 3 major issues you all have the vapors over is Climate Change since he, being German, I imagine, wanted any promotion of change to be based on science and not emotiion.

So, the anti-papacy wins one but loses the other two.

You really need to brush up on your Popes.

[GUS]

Hi Jack, it's kind of funny, I don't CARE one iota what Pope Benedict nor Pope Francis think about immigration, and more honestly illegal immigration to America.

Maybe we can ask Pope Benedict what INDIA PALE ALE, I should have at my next picnic.

What is going on in America......financially....and debt wise....is UNSUSTAINABLE. Adults need to get our house in order, or there will be no America.

[Bori]

No one has said this that I can recall. The whole immigration issues is a tacit agreement that they have given up helping those countries that most need help. Instead of trying to fix the situation there, the Pope and the Leftist have decided to bring those that can out of where ever they come from. It is defeatist in the extreme and shows the weakness of moral relativism.

The same with Climate Change and the massive redistribution of wealth that would follow if their plans are adopted. It is giving a few fish to placate the hunger rather than teaching them to fish.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Sorry, I'm busy reading the new thread.

Ah, the benefits of membership.....

[It's about power, not sexuality.]

Heh, TK, cultural. And it's the rich and powerful men who get the boys. Often, neither the rapist nor the rapee are homosexual.

[new lurker]

Well, JIB, my only point is is that the Pope should NOT be political. That is all.

[Threadkiller]

Men who rape boys have no homosexual tendencies?

[Beasts of England]

So Kim is saying that anal sex is like Pink Floyd? A luxury item?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Bori:
The whole immigration issues is a tacit agreement that they have given up helping those countries that most need help. Instead of trying to fix the situation there, the Pope and the Leftist have decided to bring those that can out of where ever they come from

While espousing that we implement the same policies that made them third world world to begin with and ensured that they would stay there forever.

[Some may be, nay, must be.]

Sorry, TK, I'll pass. Not expert. I insist that one is cultural.

[Just another BRIC at the Ball.]

Er, Pink Floyd is a necessity.

[Beasts of England]

Well, I wasn't exactly raped, but it sure as Hell was not about power, but sexual gratification. Please don't make me replay the graphic detail, but I will if necessary to disabuse you of the 'its not about sex, it's about power' lie. And it's a lie. 100%.

[Extraneus]

It would not have made a difference

"I understand that you are about to debate whether to continue providing government funding to an organization whose sole purpose is to kill unborn children. You have already provided support to this organization for years, resulting in the deaths of millions of innocent people who would otherwise be alive today. Shame on anyone who supports this evil!"

That wouldn't have made a difference?

I think it could have and would have. Regardless, it would have been speaking for any God I've ever heard of.

[Threadkiller]

I guess if we start to think their cultural activities are normal we will evolve into acceptance.

[Beasts of England]

Bori!! Great to see you posting again!

[henry]

Jeff, as long as the "good people" get to have cocktail parties and private Pedo islands to go to in their private jets, why worry about toilet paper or food for the masses? Cuba and Venezuela are excellent examples.

[Deep in December, what days to remember.]

Well, Beasts, in this culture, that one was probably homosexual, and it was about sex. And power. And powerlessness.

[lyle]

Dang it, Beasts, I'm always one step behind the cool kids!

[lyle]

Then is this The White Privilege thread?

[DebinNC]

Pope Pius XII generally stayed neutral and remained silent during the Holocaust iirc. If he found his voice once the allies were fighting in Italy and he knew the Germans would soon be out, he gets no credit from me for it.

[sbw]

Ye of no name, I like your phrasing.

To add my view: Humans are animal and cannot get away from their natural instincts.

However, humans are also self-referential and can project consequences into the future.

While sex is animal, to steal the innocence of a child is to misuse people.

Those who conflate the two want to win an argument short of coming to understanding.

[Extraneus]

Senate spending bill that would defund Planned Parenthood fails badly, 47/52 — with eight Republicans voting no

The vote divided Republicans, with eight of them breaking ranks. Sens. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.), Susan Collins (Maine), Tom Cotton (Ark.), Dean Heller (Nev.) Mark Kirk (Ill.), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska), Rand Paul (Ky.) and Ben Sasse (Neb.) all voted against moving forward…

Tom Cotton?