This is a debacle:
Doctors Without Borders says U.S. airstrike hit hospital in Afghanistan; at least 19 dead
KABUL – U.S. forces may have mistakenly bombed a hospital in northern Afghanistan on Saturday, killing at least 19 people, including three children, in an incident that will likely raise new questions about the scope of American involvement in the country’s 14-year war.
In a statement, Doctors Without Borders said an airstrike “partially destroyed” its trauma hospital in Kunduz, where the Afghan military has been trying to drive Taliban fighters from the city.
The airstrike killed at least 12 Doctors Without Borders staff members, the group said. Three children were also reportedly killed. At least 37 other people were seriously injured, including 19 staff members and 18 patients and caretakers. Officials warned the death toll could rise as dozens of people remain unaccounted for.
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Military officials in Afghanistan confirmed that there was an airstrike, saying it was targeted at insurgents firing on U.S. servicemembers assisting Afghan Security Forces.
“I am aware of an incident that occurred at a Doctors without Borders hospital in Kunduz city today,” said Gen. John F. Campbell, commander of U.S. forces in Afghanistan. “I have spoken with [Afghanistan] President Ghani regarding today’s events. While we work to thoroughly examine the incident and determine what happened, my thoughts and prayers are with those affected.”
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A U.S. military official, speaking on condition of anonymity to speak freely, said U.S. special forces soldiers were on the ground advising Afghan special forces. The official said that the U.S. troops detected incoming fire from the Taliban, so an AC-130 gunship was authorized to return fire, at an area that was apparently close to the hospital.
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Officials with the relief group repeatedly informed the U.S.-led coalition of the hospital’s precise GPS coordinates over the past few months, hospital officials said. The location of the hospital was last conveyed to the international coalition three days ago, officials added.
Once the airstrike began Saturday, hospital officials immediately reached out to U.S. military officials in Kabul and Washington, according to Jason Cone, executive director of Doctors Without Borders in the United States.
“The bombing continued for more than 30 minutes after American and Afghan military officials in Kabul and Washington were first informed,” the organization said in a statement.
Even trying to view this charitably, it appears that the Taliban was smart/ruthless enough to take up positions near a hospital and we were dumb enough to take the bait.
Obama was going to throw it in on Afghanistan anyway - his legacy, don't you know - so this hastens the inevitable.
All because Vlad showed him up in Syria. Petulant little nancyboy Obama will only get worse over the remaining15 months of his term.
Posted by: henry | October 03, 2015 at 03:24 PM
Can we have a conversation on "bomb safety"? There is no other modern state in the world that has these too frequent collateral damage strikes. It has to stop. But with the Republicans in Congress and some Democrats but the Republicans are lock step in preventing any "bomb safety" legislation to pass.
I blame it on the National Bomb Association and their membership.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 03:28 PM
rich,to answer your question from the previous thread,yes I thought the caller was caro.
Posted by: Marlene | October 03, 2015 at 03:33 PM
I don't know if he can be blamed. Honestly, he doesn't know anything about anything.
The great Tweet the other day was that Obama only shows up on TV to complain and say something must be done.
Posted by: MarkO | October 03, 2015 at 03:43 PM
Drat! I had to stop listening to Rush midway in Hour 2. Missed the Caro-call. Sorry, not I.
Posted by: Caro | October 03, 2015 at 03:53 PM
What an incredible snafu. I would bet the hospital had a red cross on it as well.
Posted by: matt | October 03, 2015 at 03:59 PM
Now the reports are that two more Mainers are on the missing cargo ship,including the captain and an engineer.The father of one of the missing crew from Rockland,ME is going to Jacksonville to be closer to the search,according to the Portland paper.
Posted by: Marlene | October 03, 2015 at 03:59 PM
Darn,caro! As rich mentioned,it sounded like you!
:)
Posted by: Marlene | October 03, 2015 at 04:02 PM
To anonamom from the last thread:
Laurence Lessig's big mistake is in thinking the *Democrats* would want to reform how presidents are elected:
Posted by: Frau Holzauge sei wachsam | October 03, 2015 at 04:03 PM
Is Jane on the road? What a day to be traveling down the coast.
Posted by: clarice | October 03, 2015 at 04:04 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jordan-congress-will-impeach-irs-koskinen/article/2573351
Posted by: clarice | October 03, 2015 at 04:04 PM
matt,
I thought it was at night? The bombing.
Roll tide into one penalty after another while you have those Dawgs on the rope. Very much unSabin like but definitely Kiffin like. Why have discipline on the offense when you can run all these NFL plays and get a chance to make FG's.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 04:11 PM
saw Noah working on a boat down the street.
thanks caro. since it wasn't you, you've got a doppelgänger calling into Rush's show.
Posted by: rich@gmu | October 03, 2015 at 04:11 PM
Good news Clarice. I would prefer Keelhauled to impeached, but this will do for now.
Posted by: henry | October 03, 2015 at 04:17 PM
Post adolescent hackers can drive your new Jeep from their internet riddled bunkers we now know.
Why would the same government that let it's most secret drone do a perfect 3-point landing in Tehran as a result of hacking be trusted with any gps based strike?
Wasn't there a story about a container ship getting its GPS hacked and being thrown off course?
Next time send the Russians with a one hour warning...
Posted by: Threadkiller | October 03, 2015 at 04:26 PM
Rain stopped here in Charlotte a couple of hours ago, but has been relentless in Charleston.
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 04:28 PM
anonamom, I'm imagining what it must be like on the battery. Yikes!
Posted by: MaryD | October 03, 2015 at 04:36 PM
They should add Clancy (SS) to the impeachment list and they better act quickly. They should have impeached Koskinen last year.
Posted by: clarice | October 03, 2015 at 04:37 PM
If this keeps up, I understand our own Miss Marple will dot the I at halftime.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 04:41 PM
Pics on the nets suggest that Charleston is about 2-4 feet under water depending on what area you are in.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 04:48 PM
Stephanie,
As you know, its not the capital of the low country for anything! Jsut to think we were looking this summer for a place "south of Broad". Second thoughts now.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 04:55 PM
Roll tide!
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 04:55 PM
Well that was NOTty. Get it?
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 04:56 PM
Boom! Roll Tide!
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 05:01 PM
Now I can back to the Air Force v. Navy game. How do you say, Hasta Lavista Baby in 'Bamian?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 05:02 PM
Folly Road running from US17 to the beach on John's Island south of Charleston was two feet under water at high tide this afternoon.
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 05:13 PM
Yikes, that's a nuking.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 05:14 PM
I made it to Roanoke. Kiwi and I are spending her 5th birthday at the Red Roof Inn. Left a little before 5 this morning - it has been nothing but rain, rain rain for the last 12 hours. The dark killed me this morning so I had to stop. I am confident it is a lot better than the coast.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | October 03, 2015 at 05:19 PM
Jane, if your feet are dry you took the correct route.
Posted by: henry | October 03, 2015 at 05:24 PM
So far, so good. Lots of golf left between the hedges, though.
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 05:26 PM
Glad you made it to a dry overnight Jane! Have a good stiff drink, a meal, and a good night's sleep!
Buona Ventura! (Good things to come!)
Posted by: maryd | October 03, 2015 at 05:26 PM
Perhaps MSF should exercise a bit more discretion when setting up their Tollybon Trauma Centers? I know just how fantastically important it is give prompt treatment to Tollybon pedophiles and goat rapists when they get shot up a bit but if MSF chooses to be completely indiscriminate in their selection of clientele they need to stop whining about foreseeable consequences.
Posted by: Rick Ballard | October 03, 2015 at 05:30 PM
Why we do not need "physician assisted suicide." Anybody who wants to can do it all by themself, and has the legal right to do so:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1689049
From what I've read, the key is to not have anyone around eating or cooking. The hunger passes fairly quickly, as ketosis sets in.
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 05:30 PM
anonamom is posting just in time for Georgia fans. Great timing.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 05:33 PM
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/
white is the new black
Posted by: clarice | October 03, 2015 at 05:34 PM
JiB, I just post 'em as I read 'em!
One of my Twitter feeds is a guy who calls himself Medical Skeptic.
Jane, are you coming through Charlotte tomorrow?
Tide keeps rolling!!
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 05:44 PM
clarice, it was noted here Thursday that the lack of ID for nearly eight hours was extremely irregular.
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 05:50 PM
Jane, glad you are okay and that you have kiwi to keep you company.
Posted by: clarice | October 03, 2015 at 05:53 PM
Also, Clarice's link was the first picture of the mother I've seen.
Posted by: henry | October 03, 2015 at 05:55 PM
Really have to give credit to Nick Satan for snagging Bane Kiffin when his stock was at an all time low. Bane could have a very successful career if his ego will allow him to exist as an OC.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPad | October 03, 2015 at 06:08 PM
Hoosiers just pick off a bad Cardale Jones throw and return it to about the 50. And first play is a 23 yard pass completion. Indiana on the march, OSU 3 point lead looking under attack
Posted by: GMax | October 03, 2015 at 06:13 PM
TD Hoosiers! OSU looking up at Indians in the 2nd half. Whooda thunk it?
Posted by: GMax | October 03, 2015 at 06:14 PM
CNN needs to be called out on what they did to the photo. Not only did they lighten the skin tones but they changed the nose and lips. This is way beyond anything accidental yet the Repuke dumbasses will keep acting like they will get a fair shake from them.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPad | October 03, 2015 at 06:16 PM
Anonamom,
I have no idea where I'm going tomorrow, I left the directions in the car. How things change, I find it weird as hell to not travel by GPS. I know I go to the end of 80 (or it it 81) and I assume I turn left.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | October 03, 2015 at 06:23 PM
I would pick up I 75 around Atlanta and follow that down myself...
Posted by: GMax | October 03, 2015 at 06:25 PM
Captain, did they really do that? I can't find it anywhere except at sites claiming they did. If they did, it's beyond the er, pale.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 06:27 PM
I showed hubby the doctored CNN picture and he said many bad words.
Local news covered the missing cargo ship. The Coast Guard out of JAX has been searching,but the conditions are not good.
Posted by: Marlene | October 03, 2015 at 06:29 PM
Why can't CNN make Obama more black then?
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 06:29 PM
Dave, I assume the images in clarice's link are accurate.
Posted by: Captain Hate on the iPad | October 03, 2015 at 06:30 PM
Its CNN. They have used up their benefit of the doubt, eons ago. They clearly lighten his skin color. Did they do some more doctoring? Betting odds would seem to be with the shooter here...
Posted by: GMax | October 03, 2015 at 06:35 PM
Looks more direct to me to go 77 to 26 to 95 to 75.
I'll see what Google maps thinks.
Hour and a half shorter through Charlotte than going to Atlanta.
Way less traffic here too.
Though the weather may be better hanging west.
Posted by: anonamom | October 03, 2015 at 06:48 PM
Even the capitol wasn't that devious, alas Jennifer Lawrence has gone moonbat.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 06:48 PM
Make OJ darker = he's evil
Make OR shooter lighter = he's evil
Who determines who is mixed race or black?
Halle Berry
Vanessa Williams
Sydney and Justin Simpson
Tiger Woods
This is not the America I saw in *my* future.
Posted by: Frau Holzauge sei wachsam | October 03, 2015 at 06:55 PM
Based on today, the weather is a priority. Driving 12 hours in the rain and fog, with wet dog walks, is not a blast. I know the directions I have take me by Atlanta and on to 75 at some point.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | October 03, 2015 at 07:00 PM
Roll Tide!!
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 07:04 PM
Take your time, Jane. We want you to arrive sane and rested to your new home.
Posted by: Frau Holzauge sei wachsam | October 03, 2015 at 07:04 PM
I gotta beat the truck Frau. But I'll be fine.
Posted by: Jane on Ipad | October 03, 2015 at 07:10 PM
I would get to Charlotte (77?) and then take 85 to 75 and head south.
Mapquest says to head much farther east and come down 95 to the turnpike, but that sounds like a bad idea with the rain.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 07:12 PM
CH-
fyi there is some skepticism on the story in the comments.
Posted by: rich@gmu | October 03, 2015 at 07:13 PM
Kiffin is still a suitcase coach, Captain - neither he nor his family has moved to Tuscaloosa - so he still wants more.
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 07:13 PM
Coach Johnson @ GT :
Cheaters Never Win
Posted by: BB Key | October 03, 2015 at 07:16 PM
Go Gators
Posted by: rich@gmu | October 03, 2015 at 07:16 PM
You know it's gonna be weird mentally picturing Jane in Florida when she posts.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 07:17 PM
"Cheaters Never Win"
hahahahahahahahaha
Posted by: Darth Hoodie | October 03, 2015 at 07:19 PM
Tim blair still points the caTegory error down under
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 07:20 PM
Wow gators.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 07:22 PM
the Gators gettin' a fast start
(dang it ... missed extra point curse)
Posted by: rich@gmu | October 03, 2015 at 07:27 PM
Brother in Hollywood SC. a golf course community not near the coast, has a foot of water in the yard. Says no problem so far.
Posted by: maryd | October 03, 2015 at 07:27 PM
Jane has a host of Georgia angels in case she needs them.
Posted by: Frau Holzauge sei wachsam | October 03, 2015 at 07:31 PM
Wow Mississippi looks like Mississippi of old. Ick.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 07:33 PM
Should note he is a retired submariner, so may have a different viewpoint than most of us.
than most of us.
Posted by: maryd | October 03, 2015 at 07:34 PM
sory for the sloppy post(s)
Posted by: maryd | October 03, 2015 at 07:36 PM
Song for Hillary
Me and my Shadow
Got a lot done today because of the rain
Rare Saturday night when both kids are here
Time for some board games
Football was great today
Ohio State almost got beat by Indiana
Posted by: maryrose | October 03, 2015 at 07:44 PM
Travel safely Jane!
Posted by: maryrose | October 03, 2015 at 07:45 PM
I'd like something more definitive to use on my moonbat-infested hometown argue-about-politics page. Conservativetreehouse gives me about the same level of confidence as, say, gatewaypundit.
Every other place that mentions it points back there, but I can't find any CNN video or screencap.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 07:49 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 07:50 PM
Interesting, the entire Harvard team just got a yellow card en mass at Reese Stadium in New Haven. Think that was NK saying hello?
Posted by: henry | October 03, 2015 at 07:51 PM
Which is the point, you make the truth samizdat, like the pantomime horse coverage of that cry for help one calls a press conference, by the peanut gallery.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 07:52 PM
Just skimming so don't know if these Stones songs for Hillary were mentioned;
Look at That Stupid Girl
Here Comes Your Nineteenth Nervous Breakdown
Mother's Little Helper
The Spider and the Fly
Let it Bleed [What difference does it make now]
And considering Hillary will never be president;
You Can't Always Get What You want
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki | October 03, 2015 at 07:57 PM
OK, but what's the chorus? ;)
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 07:58 PM
Slight drizzle in Clemson, huh?
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 08:01 PM
GATORS!
Fred Taylor's son has inherited his genes, that is for sure. The kid even runs like him. Unbelievable.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 08:20 PM
Fighting Dabos strike first.
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 08:27 PM
Jane - Have a very safe trip . . .
Remember, there aren't any awards or medals to be won by getting there sooner.
Posted by: Michael (fpa Patriot4Freedom) | October 03, 2015 at 08:28 PM
GATORS!
I can't wait for the cocktail party. It should be a doozy. Hello Jacksonville.
This is no. 25 against 5.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 08:30 PM
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 08:37 PM
Oh, you were talking about the team.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 08:37 PM
Go rich!!
Dabos score again.
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 08:39 PM
Does Port Charlottle have gators? Kiwi will tell us soon.
Posted by: Jack is Back! | October 03, 2015 at 08:40 PM
Its a salt water port, so I wouldn't think so.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 09:08 PM
The cops are now saying that the mulatto mass murderer offed himself when they showed up.
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 09:08 PM
If you go to the Port Charlotte FB page, there are pictures of gators and bobcats.
And a couple of posts from someone we know asking about gators. ;)
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2015 at 09:21 PM
Delicious.
We ran up to Longhorn to grab a bite and all the Dawg fans were sooooooo butthurt. And wet. And butthurt. And wimps as they had left the game way early.
The food was good, too.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 09:22 PM
You're a Peach, Steph!! :)
Posted by: Beasts of England | October 03, 2015 at 09:24 PM
Oh and Duck Notre Fame!
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 09:25 PM
Well I stand corrected.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 09:25 PM
:) One had even left the stadium at the half and wanted to know what the final was...I told him and might have mentioned a Slattering. I did smile sweetly the whole time, though.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 09:31 PM
18 points is a nuking no, btw what do you think of blindspot after the second episode.
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 09:34 PM
I know one Fox personality that is gonna be a whiny little bitch Monday, buccaneer.
Posted by: Stephanie | October 03, 2015 at 09:38 PM
Only one?
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | October 03, 2015 at 09:43 PM