Bootless Joe Goes To Syria (Nobel Peace Prize Update)

Reality has overtaken Obama in Syria:

Obama to Send Special Operations Forces to Syria to Help Fight ISIS

WASHINGTON — President Obama will deploy a small number of American Special Operations forces to Kurdish-controlled territory in northern Syria, a United States official said.

The team will advise and assist opposition forces who are fighting the Islamic State in Syria, providing smoother and quicker access to equipment and logistical help, the official said.

...

While administration officials plan to characterize the deployment as an enhancement of current strategy, it is actually a huge shift for a president who has said repeatedly that he will not put American combat boots on the ground in Syria.

Let's just stagger down memory lane. This is Obama from Sept 10 2013, when Barry Red Line was explaining the urgency of an "unbelievably small" strike against Assad:

Remarks by the President in Address to the Nation on Syria

...

First, many of you have asked, won’t this put us on a slippery slope to another war?  One man wrote to me that we are “still recovering from our involvement in Iraq.”  A veteran put it more bluntly:  “This nation is sick and tired of war.”

My answer is simple:  I will not put American boots on the ground in Syria. I will not pursue an open-ended action like Iraq or Afghanistan.  I will not pursue a prolonged air campaign like Libya or Kosovo.

Yeah, well, circumstances change. Here we are on Sept 10, 2014 as Obama explains his strategy to go after ISIS:

But I want the American people to understand how this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  It will not involve American combat troops fighting on foreign soil.  This counterterrorism campaign will be waged through a steady, relentless effort to take out ISIL wherever they exist, using our air power and our support for partner forces on the ground.

Whatever. Will the White House announce the deployment of Special Forces to Syria and simultaneously announces their departure date, or have they learned something during these seven long years?

And let's note this silver lining - maybe with US troops embedded alongside them, the Turks (our NATO ally) will be a bit less keen to bomb and shell the Kurds (our ISIS ally). Maybe! That just leaves us worrying about Russian aerial attacks, ISIS troops, Hezbollah, and Qaeda "rebels" hoping to score some US armaments.

 

 

 

Comments

[maryrose]

First
TM
Don't think Bammy will telegraph the exit because. A Repub President will be in charge then

[Gullible's Travels.]

Putin got a little more flexibility after Obama's election; Obama got a little less.

[matt]

I left that red line around here somewhere! Can someone help me find it?

[henry]

The pajama boy team wears slippers... Oh, he sent the Army instead?

[Please let Joe Biden preside. Pretty please.]

I wish I believed Obama gave a shit about either our special forces or about the Peshmerga. He's a dangerous cynic, and is likely to further foul things up with his ideological madnesses.

[Algonquin]

Obama has also invited Iran to the negotiation table--peace talks--on Syria.

This possibly legitimizes Hezbollah. Just recently the Iranian Defense Minister--at the funeral of something like the third Iranian Republican Guard general to die in Syria-- vowed to exterminate and/or decimate the Sunni rebels.

[henry]

Holy F... @BecketAdams: Whoa. @Reince suspending planned NBC debate until further notice. https://t.co/82VVyHCTUD

found by a lurker we know in IL.

[henry]

It must have been the spine that Gus mailed him.

[Extraneus]

Pen and phone, mostly pen.

Puerto Rico to ban use of plastic bags through executive order after legislators opposed bill

SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico – Puerto Rico's governor has signed an executive order banning the use of plastic bags across the U.S. territory.

Alejandro Garcia Padilla said Friday the ban would go into effect in mid-2016.

The surprise announcement comes just days after more than two dozen legislators in the island's House of Representatives voted against the bill.

[sbw]

rse, Glad to see you will be in NYC from Jan, 19 Tuesday-Sunday. Will try to see when my wife might be able to break free.

If not when all JOMers can attend, maybe we can arrange a different, smaller meet-up.

The ostensible reason for me to go to NYC would be to get a suit for my son’s wedding next July. I’m content to wear my summer weight flannel work shirt, but what I want doesn’t count.

BTW, Happy Birthday, Beasts, . . . and to those of whom I may have inadvertently missed.

[Rick Ballard]

I would imagine Special Forces have been with the Peshmerga for some time. The public announcement may be aimed at the Turks who prefer bombing Peshmerga over ISIS.

The scent of Arab Spring doesn't seem to be growing more pleasant with the passage of time.

[Algonquin]

Reading the end of the post--

Obama has been transparent on announcing troop movements.

Yeeee,haaaa. Hell CNN was asking a retired general for the specific destination into Syria of these few fifty. (No--you would not want to be one of the few.)

[Beasts of England]

I haven't call Barky 'feckless' in a long time. Today seems like an especially good day for it.

[Algonquin]

Biden's fingerprints are all over this mess, he owns it just as much as Obama. Most of the inept national security hires --two particularly huge ones,Donilon and McDonough originated from Camp Biden, or had Biden's blessings.

[Sue]

I'm more than willing to support the President sending in our spec ops if I thought he was serious.

[Beasts of England]

WH says it was previous administration's fault for putting troops in Iraq!

Blame Booooooosh!!

Øbama wasn't conscripted into the presidency was he? He ran for office, correct? What a f*cking man-child.

[Algonquin]

Rick the damn thing has been telegraphed for awhile,--some speculate it is why Putin --pre-empted.

[narciso]

evidence from the last great idea they had.

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2015/10/al-qaeda-in-the-islamic-maghreb-honors-ansar-al-sharias-slain-military-commander.php

[Old Lurker]

How would you like to be the parent of a SF deployed thus?

[rse]

sbw-look forward to meeting both of you. Ask your wife if remaking middle school into a microsociety is how she envisioned the Common Core. http://savannahnow.com/news/2015-10-29/myers-middle-students-making-societal-change#

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--The scent of Arab Spring doesn't seem to be growing more pleasant with the passage of time.--

Maybe not but, the modern president checks the status of his Arab Spring bar before jumping in for a wash. Too small, it gets swapped out.

[Stephanie]

Alabama and LSU both have byes this weekend?

[Algonquin]

A huge vulnerablity for our troops has been Obama's indecisiveness, it gives dictators and other autocrats a large advantage. It's been a spectacular problem from the beginning --General McChrystal had to corner Obama on the tarmac in a foreign land because --winter was coming--in Afghanistan.

[Sue]

When it goes bad will Obama claim he was right all along and we shouldn't haven't put boots on the ground? Isn't that his MO?

[Beasts of England]

That's correct. We need it badly...

[Sue]

On one hand they use the authorization Bush was able to get and on the other hand blame him for using it.

[lyle]

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/258592-democrats-like-what-they-hear-from-ryan

Well, why not?

[lyle]

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/10/30/russian-president-climate-change-is-fraud/

To go along with the fraud we have in the WH.

[narciso]

in every family there is a punk, in this case it's late king Abdullah's whelp,

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/27/saudi-arabia-prince-american-women-sexual-assault-beverly-hills

[Frau Bügeleisen]

Barry's War

[narciso]

well they would probably give him a parade when he got here,

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/oct/30/polish-court-rejects-us-request-to-extradite-roman-polanski

the ghost, showed a steelier Tony Blair then the blanc mange we see today,

[Frau Bügeleisen]

What would Hillary! do? Will she be asked? Save time and ask Sid Vicious.

[lyle]

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/30/media/cnbc-gop-debate-reactions-shellshocked/index.html

But some of the same CNBC employees also said they were proud that the moderators had pointedly challenged the GOP candidates and potentially changed the course of the presidential race.

[Rick Ballard]

Algonquin,

I don't doubt the existence of plans any more than I doubt the unerring efficacy of the President's Merde Touch. I will be keeping the Special Forces and Kurds in my prayers during their tribulation.

I really liked the quotation from Putin's science adviser in Lyle's link.

“We found that, while climate change does exist, it is cyclical, and the anthropogenic role is very limited,” he said. “It became clear that the climate is a complicated system and that, so far, the evidence presented for the need to ‘fight’ global warming was rather unfounded.”

I don't think BOzo is going to enjoy Paris.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--When it goes bad will Obama claim he was right all along and we shouldn't haven't put boots on the ground?--

"With Allah as my witness, I'll never put boots on the ground again. Oh fiddle-dee-dee, who am I kidding? Tomorrow is another day";
Things Scarlet O'Bama said.

[lyle]

I don't think BOzo is going to enjoy Paris.

No one does this better than you, Rick. Huzzah.

[narciso]

as rush pointed out, the objective is to get the insinuation out there,

[The Masque of Paris Nigh.]

Putin dropping the masque on climate change is a little curious. Heretofore, the BRICs have been a solid bloc, preying on the West's guilt in order to shakedown climate reparations, whilst busily industrializing with fossil fuels as fast as they can.

Oh, well, no doubt Putin's setting up Obama for another pratfall. Can't wait to see how this one works out.

[glasater]

Its pretty sad to have to root for Putin on climate change.

[Marlene]

Belated Happy Birthday Beasts!

[narciso]

as I was saying earlier glasater, dawisha covers much of the story, dryden could only tell as fiction,

http://www.thelocal.es/20151030/spanish-opposition-proposes-pact-with-pm-to-combat-catalan-separatism

this is what happens when you don't disdain the base,

[narciso]

it isn't recorded who was the Imperial official, who let the Vandals in, as Bane might put it 'the screaming comes later,

[henry]

Putin has to sell oil, he needs western economies functioning. The climate change bs is killing industry and thus demand for oil. As the Russians said early, they will sell us the rope to hang them... (here Putin will sell us the oil to rebuild our militaries because he needs the cash himself).

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Dimwit Charlie Rose to Dondi: Why would Rodham lie about the video? Jeez, I dunno, Charlie; what exactly do you get paid for doing?

[narciso]

well Volodya has been sponsoring some of the antifracking efforts but he does need a market for his oil,

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/10/30/students-walk-out-for-fired-deputy.html?via=twitter_page

signs of sanity, wherever you can find them.

[henry]

Nice, Reince's letter to NBC in full. They will have the February debate anyway, NRO stays involved, NBC can do reruns of leave it to beaver... nobody will know or watch.

[Jack is Back!]

I understand that throw down in the Columbia HS was a set up by the girl because her friend, a drug dealer, got arrested by the Columbia cops a few days before. Lot of speculation that she was told to make it a spectacle and impeach the cops behavior.

Seems pretty valid to me. #BLM is more than politics and has spread far.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I haven't watched a debate yet, but I would watch Leave it to Beaver...unless it's one of those later ones where the Beav's voice is changing and he's all teenagey and pimply and stuff.
I can watch Rubio and Rand Paul if I wanna see that.

[Beasts of England]

It's sad when we have to root on Putin to save Western Civilization from itself.

[henry]

Ig, I couldn't remember any shows so bad nobody watched them (current NBC may be an exception, I never watch them either).

[Marlene]

Because it is Halloween and there is discussion of climate change,I'm going to post this. There are "green"options for everything,it seems. A retired Colby College librarian has been giving do-it yourself coffin demonstrations and lectures around the state. Chuck Lakin says the aging boomer population is looking for green options,even in death. The do-it-yourself pine coffin decomposes,you decompose and the nutrients return to the soil. His simple pine coffins include a design that can be used as a bookshelf until needed.
*So* if anyone needs a week-end project... :)

[Jack is Back!]

I agree with Surber about "Also MTP". Why do they do these former and present Dem operatives aka news moderator's shows on Sunday? Does any Republican running for President really think George Stephanopoulus is going to give them a fair sounding board for their ideas on any issue of import withoiut "gotcha" ringing the questions? The same for FTN. At least at FNS aka Rove News Sunday, you have some conservative voices to counter the Libs attempts at "Gotcha".

[Cecil Turner]

WASHINGTON — President Obama will deploy a small number of American Special Operations forces to Kurdish-controlled territory in northern Syria, a United States official said.

Hey, I forget, how did that Vietnam thingy start?

[Jane]

Happy B-day + 1 Beasts! I'm quite confident you made it a good one!

[glasater]

Narc, every once in awhile I check to see if Dryden is doing anything. So far nada unfortunately.

[lyle]

If you're not in the mood for an f-bomb laced rant, don't head over to ace's place. Otherwise, it's spot on re the effing MFM.

[narciso]

His last hasn't popped here, then again he was mi 6 reportedly

[glasater]

Dryden's books are so good.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--The do-it-yourself pine coffin decomposes,you decompose and the nutrients return to the soil.--

Thought Steve Buscemi's partner already solved that in Fargo.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

My Mother the Car is usually held up as pretty unwatchable, henry, though I don't think I've ever actually seen it.

[lyle]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/30/opinion/would-jesus-wear-a-sidearm.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=0

Don't click. Just marvel at the progtard mind, such as it is.

[Beasts of England]

Thanks! It was pretty tame - as I didn't want a date and/or a hangover with the roofers starting at 6:30 this morning. lol

Doing better today. 66° feels warm enough on the water. PBRs all around. ;)

[Algonquin]

Rick
Heh, I missed that.

Putin's primary objective is to gain leverage on us, and to reassert himself as a world power. That's his ultimate goal--his Olympic shows demonstrated that in an overly elaborate fashion-- as is the Russian way. It was hard to miss, although Biden honestly could have.

[Thomas Collins]

My Mother the Car is a great show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE9C1fQ--LQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kz3hfJweE0

[Jeff Dobbs]

Because it is Halloween and there is discussion of climate change

Here is PUK's last comment on JOM:

Did you know that if you put a wick in Al Gore's head it would provide enough light for a small town?

Posted by: PeterUK | October 25, 2009 at 02:17 PM

Tomorrow marks the sixth anniversary of his death, and Monday would have been his 73rd birthday.

RIP dear friend.

[lyle]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-not-ready-for-prime-time-bush-1446160562

Dame Peggy deigns to call 'em as she sees 'em on Señor Yeb. Odd, how she couldn't cast a similar gimlet eye on Precious. I wonder why...

I'm sure the mere thought of Hilligula's ascent to the throne sends a frisson of sexual tension into the old bag's nether region.

[Old Lurker]

TC re My Mother the Car.

My friends and I last week were wondering why Garmin doesn't have a way to program your wife's as the voice in the GPS...

:-)

[Algonquin]

Putin is also testing and straining NATO like a scientist testing the elasticity and breaking point of an unkown compound in a lab. I suspect the refugee flow, and management of that is also interesting to him. The Balkans, Greece, Bulgaria, Turkey and Jordan plus the EU are all being stress tested.

[narciso]

Whereas Forsyth was so good it turned out he was mi 6. Matthew dunn, has a new one to tide you over.

[Old Lurker]

Seems like yesterday to me, Jeff.

[Thomas Collins]

I usually drive and my wife usually navigates, OL. So I have a real live GPS that sounds like my wife! She uses this app called, I think, Waze, and tells me where to go.

[lyle]

A snippet for those rightly disinclined to care about what Dame Peggy writes:

But it’s 2015, we’re in crisis; they don’t care about your heart and joy, they care about your brains, guts and toughness

A crisis, you say?? Gee, Peg, how in the world could we have found ourselves in a crisis after electing a mixed race Marxist with a messianic complex...twice?! The same one who you smoothly assured the rubes of his perfect demeanor and judgement. Gah!

[rse]

The key to getting around atlanta these days is NOT to have gps. GPS routes the way it is also telling others. Many times an indirect route is the fastest way around.

[narciso]

Remind me when I have to neuralize myself Lyle.

Yes volodya's associated comprised much of the bratva which branched out into new frontiers like spain, seymour's latest gives us a glimpse.

[DublinDaveForever]

Waaaaaagh, NBC are going to be mean to us,waaaaaagh, we're not going to play with them cwas dewer meanies, waaaaaaaghghghghggh.

You guys are like the biggest babies on the face of the fucking planet,God forgive me I don't think I've ever encountered "men" like all of you before.

Marco Rubio cries his eyes out that the media is against all Republicans and for Hillary Clinton-the same media that unanimously pronounces him the winner of the debate and gushes over his performance. And by the way Marco-every news outlet said that Hillary whooped the Benghazi committees ass-- EVEN Republican media who were embarrassed by your sides performance.

You guys aren't even guys....it's like your little French girls or something....we should suspend all this Politics stuff and just kick your fucking ass for the fun of it.

Run to FOX news, little French girls,it's nice and warm and safe and they'll give you cocoa and Marshwellows yummmm yummmm and twell you your Tax plans that add trillions to the debt are vwery vwery gwooood.

Bitches!

[GMax]

Putin most of all wants to put pressure on the sandbox of the Saudis. Much of the kleptocracy that is OPEC would easily fall in line, hell the Venezuelans and the Nigeria are hemmoraging cash due to the low prices, if only the Saudis were not so stubborn. So Putin is doing a very familiar, "Nice place you got here, would hate to see anything happen to it..." speech. He intends to get the price of oil back to a level he can run his little fief at a very comfortable rate, absent a little bit that may fall off the back of the truck on occasion, of course...

[lyle]

Jonah points out a glaring contradiction:

The New York Times is even reluctant to refer to him as a doctor. The Federalist reports that Jill Biden, who has a doctorate in education, is three times more likely to be referred to as “Dr.” in the Times as brain surgeon Carson. If the Times did that to a black Democrat, charges of racism would be thick in the air.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426317/ben-carson-black-conservative

[GMax]

There might be a PhD that is easier to get with less effort than a education doctorate, I just cant think of it at the moment. That a educator gets to use the exact same appelation as a trained medical professional, has always seemed to me to be beyond ludicrous.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--But it’s 2015, we’re in crisis;--

Indeed Peg. Back in November 08 things were going so swimmingly we could just throw a big TARP over our tiny problems and afford to take a flier on a hopey, dopey, changey, jug-headed crypto-Marxist who even a mere stripling on pabulum could see was at best a grinning pea and thimble man with a great many unresolved mommy and daddy issues.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I believe Dr. Bill Cosby has a doctorate in education.
Just sayin'.

[lyle]

Agreed, GMax. A PhD in Ed. cannot require any new thinking or deep research. Just regurgitate the CW on CC and "critical theory" and, et voila, yer now a...doctor.

[narciso]

That is so doubleunplusgood to point out.

[Cecil Turner]

Bitches!

Heh. The only thing funnier than a Californian telling us how he's going to vote in the general (no offense) is a foreigner telling us how to run a primary. And being called a bitch by a Euroweenie just ices the cake.

Thanks, DuDa.

[DublinDaveForever]

Cecil?What are you a gay 18th century British poet?That's not even a man's name.

Run Cecil,the big bad men from NBC are coming for you,ruuuuun,ruuuuuunnnnn!!!!!!!

ROFLMAO....Jesus,Hillary walks into the Lions den for 11 hours,faces some of the ugliest accusations you can think of and literally yawns her way through it.

These Republican manginas can't take a few snarky questions.

How are they going to handle the Villains of the world if they can't handle John Harwood and Becky quick?????

[lyle]

Come to think of it, I want to be a doctor, too!

I'm going to present my dissertation on "The Heuristics and Hermaneutics of Inner City Black on Black Crime and the False Fallacy of the Phallic Black Handgun qua One Parent Families"

Should be a yuge hit in the faculty lounge!!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

There's a Dublin about 100 miles from me and not far at all from the flesh pots of SanFran.
I suspect the fabulist WeeDavey was born a lot closer to Folsom Street than the Emerald Isle.

[lyle]

Beg to differ, Ig. I think WeeDavey hails from Athole, ID.

[Cecil Turner]

I don't think so. He makes some completely off-the-wall mistakes about US politics (e.g., thinking the FIFA scandal was strongly linked to SCOTUS) that's typical clueless euroweenie. If he's a false flag, he's good at it.

[lyle]

Folsom St. and Athole do have a commonality, though.

[narciso]

There's a troll at although site, called ritmo, just as sense.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/jeb-bush-chief-operating-officer-christine-ciccone-leaves-215395

[Buckeye]

Happy Birthday Beasts

How was the Sinatra bourbon?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Beg to differ, Ig. I think WeeDavey hails from Athole, ID.

I don't think so..... that's typical clueless euroweenie.--

Let's compromise. He's an asshole from Ireland via Idaho on his way to suck Folsom Street Fair weenie.

[clarice]

Thanks, Jeff.

HB , Beasts.

[Cecil Turner]

I think there are some redundancies in there, but other than that . . .

[Old Lurker]

From MM's link:

"Ciccone previously worked in President George W. Bush's administration as a Senate legislative liaison. She was also a lobbyist for the Washington consulting firm Sphere."

Any clues there, Jebby?

[Skoot]

Boots on the ground, boots on the ground,
Lookin' like a fool wit yo boots on the ground...werd.

[derwill]

The meme, even among liberals, that followed the CNBC debate was that the GOP candidates kicked some media ass and took names (looking at you John Harwood). And thanks to Trump, these debates are drawing eyeballs, which translates into ad revenue, and that has given the RNC power to dictate terms on how future debates will be conducted. Nice to see they finally figured that out, better late than never.

Access is everything in the world of journalism, especially TV. Deny a reporter access, while giving that same access to a rival network, and you're hitting them right where it hurts--the pocketbook.

Duda, of course, is too stupid to have figured this out. He does serve a purpose on JOM, however, continuously underscoring just how clueless the progs really are.

[matt]

Compared to Carson's credentials an ED PhD is like an AYSO everybody wins prize. Did I tell ya she's smokin' hot? All the guys down at the diner says so.

[Cecil Turner]

The meme, even among liberals, that followed the CNBC debate was that the GOP candidates kicked some media ass and took names . . .

Yes, and I think they inadvertently did us a favor even on the policy side, where candidates were forced to interject their own substance to empty questions, and some shone doing it.

But that's still no reason not to punish them for what they tried to do, and I applaud the RNC--and Priebus in particular--for finally finding a spine on the issue.