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October 11, 2015

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henry

Wow. I don't do those things for a reason. (I have done 2 out of 3 in my teens, but not the same week).

Beasts of England

I couldn't complete any of the legs today. And 2.4 miles in the water has to be the most grueling part.

Sue

If the physical activities don't kill you, the river might.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Unclear which thread will win the JOM Ironman so I'll try this here;
The indispensable Andrew Ferguson on just how awful the social sciences are and how far from actual science, and worse how the same attitude is seeping into other branches of science, the most obvious being Kim's special area of interest.

jimmyk

And 2.4 miles in the water has to be the most grueling part.

And I was thinking that would be the easy part, but I'm an ex-competitive swimmer. Still, a decent swimmer should be able to do 2.4 miles in under 90 minutes, while those other events will take 3 or 4 hours at least.

henry

Also watch out for these fellers.

jimmyk

Make that "4 or 5 hours at least."

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

And one more before I go do something useful;
I hear repeated complaints of Ted Cruz having a terrible voice and being a condescending chump and have never quite grasped either complaint.
Here is an hour long speech he gave a few days ago on the floor of the Senate, apparently largely extemporaneously.
He does condescend at times, but every time I have seen him do it, he does so toward the creeps in DC not the citizens. He is visibly angry at them as are the rest of us and he shows it. I'm glad he does. I'm glad he doesn't get along with the maggots in the most cossetted, closeted deliberative body in the world. If he did there'd be something wrong with him. It's a badge of honor and an indictment of those pigs at the trough he doesn't get along with.
Click on it anywhere and find something that isn't true.

As for his voice it seems completely within the realm of normalcy. It's not deep and sonorous like, oh say, Barack Obama's spouting stentorian nonsense but I have a hard time finding anything unpleasant about it.

There have been no small number of presidents who were supposedly unelectable for similarly specious reasons.
And few of them were as in tune with the tenor of the times as Cruz is.

jimmyk

So who is this mysterious JOM representative? Mrs TM?

DebinNC

"I'm not afraid of the swim. I'm not afraid of the ride. And I am not afraid of the walk."

I can confidently say I too have no fear of those events. Just tell me what channel and what time, and I'm there.

Go Cruz!

buccaneer morgan

Great pieces, clarice.

Jane

Who is our representative?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

OK one more;
Ross Douthat! thinks the House needs a Tea Party Speaker.

BTW the Times notes at the bottom of Douthat's column that "Maureen Dowd is off today".
Apparently Bud Abbott's ghost now writes copy for the NYT.

Buckeye

Buckeyette is training to do triathalons. It is amazing the apps that are available that allow you to gauge yourself vis-a-vis the competition.

Like jimmyk she is an ex-competitve swimmer and already knows she is in the top tier for swimming. Also recently discovered that she is the fastest female in central Ahia over many of the measured bike rides. But the runs, not so much.

She will do a her first triathalon in a few weeks, but whether she will ever make it to an Ironman to be seen.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

We know it was Bud Abbott not Ed McMahon because he didn't write "How off is she?" : )

Sue

----
Who is our representative?

Posted by: Jane | October 11, 2015 at 12:28 PM---/

You know it isn't me. I'm training for a mathathon.

Beasts of England

I swim at least three times a week in the summer and it's tough. I think the orientation in the water and having to breath like that for an hour or so is not my wheelhouse.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

My representative is Tom McClintock.
I guess Jane is confused cuz she's in a new district.

rse

Anyone else watch The last Kingdom last night on bbc?

I know we have a number of Bernard Cornwell lovers at JOM. Maybe OL can check in during his ferry ride.

Thomas Collins

Must be me. I do the triathlon in a three piece suit. Treadmill and weights at my apartment building's workout area, and nachos/wine at Jerry Remy's Sports Bar to finish. That third leg is brutal.

clarice

Today's big mystery.

clarice

Today's big mystery.

Extraneus

Isn't it interesting how the claws and fangs come out for a black conservative? Even Republicans (Jen Rubin) are in an anti-Palin-like froth over Ben Carson.

Why would that be?

Beasts of England

He's over the target, Extraneus!

clarice

Is it Eileen Maguire?http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/events/americas/ironman/louisville/results.aspx#axzz3oHRsmAxv

Rick Ballard

What do I win if she's Eileen Maguire?

Man Tran

MT Jr announced he was signing up for the NZ Ironman next year in anticipation of his 50th bd the same year. Never understood the draw, but will go down under to cheer just the same.

buccaneer morgan

Ah truth is samizdat. Intersting how there is no followup of events in sydney, and little on events out of Moldova.

buccaneer morgan

Consideing the relative distance verner, don't know who would be closer.

jimmyk

What do I win if she's Eileen Maguire?

Very impressive regardless, 1:09 in the swim leg.

Rick Ballard

I see.

Second place.

rich@gmu

Mr. Congeniality, Rick.

buccaneer morgan

DouthAt still manages to snark at Cruz in that piece. Carlos slims had an editorial about why funds keep going to the caliphate, one should refer them to Quinn.

rich@gmu

I could do all that in about a year. Good luck to Tom's mystery JOMer.

rse

MT-my gf, who literally travelled all over the world when I was growing up, always said consistently that NZ was his favorite and the most beautiful country in the world.

His other favorite place was Lake Louise in canada, After I finished law school I planned a trip to see banff, lake louise, jasper and then over to Prince Rupert. Caught the ferry to Port Hardy and drove down the link of Vancouver Island to Victoria. Caught another ferry to Vancouver. Dropped sister off at Seattle airport and my dad and I alternated driving back to atlanta over the next 4 days.

That was when we saw olympic torch in middle of nowhere Idaho on the interstate on its way to LA.

I told me kids who grew up flying that everyone should drive cross-country at least once just to see the change in topography from area to area.

 Jack is Back! : h

Hail to the Redskins,
Hail Victory.
Braves on the Warpath
Fight for old DC.

Beasts of England

Marine gas has dropped to $3.999. Trim it high and let it fly!! Woot!

 Jack is Back!

Test

Man Tran

rse,

The GRITS gal I mentioned earlier bought a place on the north end of the South Island about a dozen years ago. Only lasted 3-4 yrs before they discovered it was too far removed. Kinda like HI x 100.

Buckeye

Watching the President's Cup. South Korea looks like a really shitty place to play golf.

James D.

Good luck, crazy triathlon competitor!

anonamom

Beasts, re: your comment on the previous post that you think Dr. Carson is "tough":

I can attest that the neurosurgeons who have the testicular fortitude to take a rotary saw to another person's skull and then go poke around their brains knowing full well the possible consequences of doing so are most definitely tough guys.

And the ones that can take children from their parents' arms and do that are the very toughest.

Cecil Turner

Watching the President's Cup. South Korea looks like a really shitty place to play golf.

Some parts of ROK are fairly pretty . . . but that Song Do IBD is reclaimed mudflats somebody decided to turn into a business district. It was pre-engineered a few years ago into a cookie-cutter metro area that's now finally generating actual business, and turning a bit preppy. Still flat with dubious underpinning and sparsely populated with business, though. (I'm told by a reliable source that a building next to the hotel where we stay there was leaning like the tower of Pisa, but they managed to stabilize it somehow and now it's back in business.)

Buckeye

The rain, wind and cold make it look pretty inhospitable.

Jane

Iggy,

In what thread did you post that comment about Palestine?

henry

Via Insty, the NY Post has Hilligula having "childlike tantrums" and predicts meltdown is close. So I guess that lowers expectations for her debate performance a notch or eleven. If she throws no inanimate objects-- she wins the debate.

Cecil Turner

The rain, wind and cold make it look pretty inhospitable.

Ah, that started just as I left, but it was sunny and warm the week before. (And yeah, it gets even worse--winter there sucks.) But it's nice and hot here in Singapore!

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

This one! :)

Excellent comment at Powerline about Wright;

Jonathon Gentner · Brisbane, Australia
There is no real country of Palestine. There has NEVER been a nation called Palestine. "Palestine" is a corruption of "Philistine". Why Philistines? Who were they?

They were a bunch of non-Semitic, (that would also be non-Arab to most normal folk), raiders from a bunch of islands near Greece. Their name is not an "ethnic" name but derived from "Peleshet", from the verb "pelesh". Thus; "dividers", "penetrators" or "invaders". Getting the picture?

Why was the home of the Jews, (Judea) called Palestine? Ask the Romans, Emperor Hadrian in particular. After Masada and several other unpleasant incidents, Hadrian decided to obliterate the name of Israel and Judah from the face of the earth. (Sound familiar?)

So he renamed the place Palaestina, after the historically well known, but by that time defunct, bunch of sea lice. There is NO record, ANYWHERE, of the name "Palaestina" before its imposition by Hadrian.


Heh. The louse doesn't fall far from the sea.

Jane

Thanks Iggy.

James D.

If she throws no inanimate objects-- she wins the debate.

What about animate objects?

I suppose attacking one of her rivals and throwing them bodily off the state would be reported as "feistiness" or a demonstration of her good health and fitness...

James D.

I do love the Red Zone channel. Interesting games so far this afternoon.

jimmyk

Also, from the Joan Peters book we know that those now calling themselves Palestinians are mostly migrants (that word again) from other places like Egypt, Jordan, etc., who arrived in the early 20th century after Jews began turning a mostly neglected barren wasteland into a productive society.

henry

James, that would demonstrate how old and feeble they all are. A slo-mo attack in real time.

Sue

I wonder how much money was spent having grown men wear pink sunglasses?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--other places like Egypt, Jordan--

Jordan is only an "other place" because they ceded their claims to the West Bank to the Palis.
Now, IMO Israel's borders should be a lot more expansive than they are but the only place with any even slightly legitimate claim to the area is the Jordan of Trans-Jordan not a made up people of a made up country.

daddy

Driver dies after hitting moose in South Anchorage


Not to fear JOMers, my flower eating mooses from yesterday are okay, since I saw them last evening, but this was quite near our South Anchorage home and shows the danger that comes if you barrel into one of these things at high speed.

If there is salvageable road kill, the Police will immediately call whichever citizen is next on the roadkill sign-up list, and he/she will hustle down to the scene to do the scavenging. What's left, usually the bony legs from knee down, is then taken to the Zoo and fed to the bears. In winter, when those legs are frozen, the Zoo guys call them "Bear Popsicles."

DebinNC

My dh has committed 3 deer deaths-by-Corolla over the years on the same 1 mi. stretch of road. I've killed none, as, unlike my sunny dh, I am a pessimist who believes the next catastrophe is but a moment away, so caution is always advised.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Um, daddy, you do know that segue from the first paragraph to the second sounds like you Alaskans have a pretty utilitarian view of drivers killed in auto accidents, right up to and including cannibalism, right?

James D.

Ig, I think the phrase you're looking for there is "waste not, want not."

jimmyk

Jordan is only an "other place" because they ceded their claims to the West Bank to the Palis.

Well, there was no such thing as Jordan 100 years ago. The standard summary of her argument is that
Miss Peters’s central thesis is that a substantial immigration of Arabs to Palestine took place during the first half of the twentieth century. She supports this argument with an array of demographic statistics and contemporary accounts, the bulk of which have not been questioned by any reviewer...

I take that to mean immigration from east of the Jordan river to west of the Jordan, which I anachronistically called "from Jordan," but it might means something else.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1986/mar/27/mrs-peterss-palestine-an-exchange/

jimmyk

oops, meant that italicized section to be blockquoted.

DebinNC

Disturbing story from CA, man arrested for planting two "acid bombs" on 18th hole of golf course. Maintenance men found one already detonated (!) and then took it upon themselves to remove the second one themselves (!) to protect the public.

Joan

Ignatz, 12:18, "....As for his voice it seems completely within the realm of normalcy. It's not deep and sonorous like, oh say, Barack Obama's spouting stentorian nonsense but I have a hard time finding anything unpleasant about it."

I mentioned Cruz's voice one time, wishing he had a better speaking voice. I think, to me (and maybe others), voices can be compelling and magnetic and, (though shallow), make a person seem more attractive. Cruz has a slightly high, nasal quality to his voice. However, the only reason I would "wish" him to have a better speaking voice is simply so he can attract more voters. That's what I want him to do, appeal to more and more people, in any way he can. He's a nice looking man, seems to be deeply conservative, is tough and brave, and would make a good president (I hope.) Man, if he had Ronald Reagan's voice, he would be a total package. His voice wouldn't make me not vote for him, but so many people are attracted to superficial things, that I would just like for Cruz to be just a 'bit more perfect.' :)

buccaneer morgan

Yes they were the vilayets of Beirut and damascus, but why bother the narrative.

 Jack is Back!

Frederick and I are off in 10 minutes to catch the Hampton Jitnety for Metlife Stadium and the Giants v. 49er's game tonight. His first pro game but he is more psyche about riding the bus than the game. Wait until he finds out the bus doesn't have power to charge his phone or keep it charged while he plays games or watches videos for 3 hours:)

This will my first Giant's game since I was also 12 years old and the like up had guys like Tunnell, Robestelli, Tittle and Livington:)

FTL

Ignatz,

Thanks to the link to the Standard piece about the pseudosciences.

In the early to mid 90s I did IT support and programming work for government social scientist PhDs at DHHS. There was a lot of excitement at the time over the promise of using brute-force numerical method techniques for survey data reduction on microcomputers. This kind of work was cost prohibitive to do under the mainframe resource billing models in effect at the time.

The excitement fizzled out a little after I left for other work. I never got a straight answer on why that was, but I strongly suspect that it was either because making crap out of crap is a useless endeavor no matter how fast or fancily you do it or because reality has a distinct conservative bias.

I knew only three other non-libtards who worked at that 350+ person agency.

buccaneer morgan

Arafat's uncle was a turk, circassian, he himself was born in cairo, so that would make him egyptian

daddy

Out here the ADN is trying to dump on rude Alaskan Congressman Don Young (R) for busting through a Peter King Interview by CNN by saying, Get Out of My Way!"

This linked clip is from our local channel 2 News, where the commenters are more in favor of Young's rudeness, not opposed to it.

daddy

... you Alaskans have a pretty utilitarian view of drivers killed in auto accidents, right up to and including cannibalism, right?

Ha! I completely missed that Iggy! How true:)

Mister, Bear, would you like a little human carcass to go along with your popsicle?

lyle

Spectacularly beautify fall colors and weather in Sun Valley. Just thought you should know. Carry on.

peter

Whoever the triathlete may be, I wish her good luck. I have run a handful of full marathons. I can't imagine just starting one after having swum 2.6 miles and having biked over a century. Hope their significant other is good at giving post race massages!

daddy

I think the "Settled Science" takeaway from Ig's link at 12:02 is this:

“For most study designs and settings,” Ioannidis wrote, “it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true.”

maryrose

Young is an older Congressman and therefore deference is called for
Capt:
I am excited to the Impressionists Show at the Art Museum
This coming weekend I will be at the Dulles Holiday Inn for the third family wedding of the year
Reception at the Botanical Gardens
Any info on how to get there or what these places are like would be greatly appreciated as we are driving in from Cleveland's West Side

henry

Daddy, I hope that holds for the stuff rse reports on... And mind control framing fails miserably. Not sure, since it is older research.

maryrose

The Donner Party is the only instance I know of that involved cannibalism

daddy

No comment yet from my catheter, but my jock-strap just texted me to tell me he was not impressed.

henry

The cannibalism was less gross.

daddy

The Donner Party is the only instance I know of that involved cannibalism

Maryrose,

When I lived in Boulder, the on Campus Cafe was named The Alfred Packer Grill after this famous American cannibal:

Packer was a guy who in the 1870's ate his 5 prospecting companions during a fierce Colorado Winter.

The part I remember was this bit from the Judge who sentenced him to death, which was posted somewhere at the Campus Grill's entrance:

the presiding judge, M.B. Gerry, said:

“ Stand up yah voracious man-eatin' sonofabitch and receive yir sintince. When yah came to Hinsdale County, there was siven Dimmycrats. But you, yah et five of 'em, goddam yah. I sintince yah t' be hanged by th' neck ontil yer dead, dead, dead, as a warnin' ag'in reducin' th' Dimmycratic populayshun of this county. Packer, you Republican cannibal, I would sintince ya ta hell but the statutes forbid it."

If you ask me, Boulder could use a few more good men like Alfred Packer.

anonamom

daddy, I so don't see the need for that

Sue

The announcer for the Redskins/Braves game is worse at math than me.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Well, there was no such thing as Jordan 100 years ago.--

That's why I mentioned Trans Jordan, which IIRC was the slab of meat the British Mandate was supposed to make semitic sausage out of.
I could be wrong. It happened one other time.

James D.

JiB must be out of cell range. I'd think that even though it was only an FG, that was worthy of a "Hail to the Redskins"

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I think "allegedly" said would be a tad more accurate, daddy, though it was disappointing to see fiction was again stranger than truth.

jimmyk

That's why I mentioned Trans Jordan

Iggy, I was clarifying my own comment about "Jordan," not correcting you. I should have just said "Transjordan" in my original comment. I was talking about Arab immigration to Palestine pre-1948. I guess your point at 2:40 is that if they migrated into the West Bank, that would have still been Jordan from '48-67, but that's only because Jordan invaded Palestine in '48. Or perhaps I misunderstood.

rse

henry-one problem is the ed profs, anthropology profs like Margaret Mead, cyberneticians, systems thinkers were all corrdinating with each other right though the Cold War as if it was not going on. But the Soviet psychologists did have carte blanche.

Knewton is saying in the kind of docs I have when you get 3/4's through that it needed massive amounts of data from lots of students with varying characteristics being asked to do the same tasks to really fine tune its adaptive software program. That's what Common Core and any competency-based program globally is providing. It rally is a massive social science engineering project at a neural level.

https://tech.ed.gov/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Expanding-Evidence.pdf is from the feds and is darn confessional. It was uploaded more than a year after it was written, suggesting need for it to be easier to access. Karen Cator mentioned in it is over in Finland this week coordinating with the Europeans because we are actually the cutting edge on fully implementing the cyber vision.

Another thing I have but have not written about is a confession that in 1968 SRI, with federal grants, set up a future scenarios through changing K-12 initiative. The report is quite graphic but was only published as a book in 1982. Stunningly graphic in the theory of what altering the internalized images and values could do to push the West once and for all in the direction of the Marxist "from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs" vision.

It was one of those all in one place books. I had to read it all online because copies of the actual book cost too much. A man literally took a picture of every page of the Vancouver Public Library's copy and turned it into a pdf. I have a group of readers now who take what I write and then go off on tangents. One found it and recognized some of the names and sent it to me. It was basically all things I knew except having it in one place and a list of who all was involved was startling.

There is no question I am right about what is being tried. All the research though makes it clear that fluent phonetic reading and a nourished logical mind is virtually impossible to manipulate with these techniques. Hence the preschool push for reasons that are inaccurate.

Friday's conference gave plausible reasons. I know they are false because they contradict the actual language in Georgia's NCLB waiver. I also know it's wrong because I was down at Ga DoEd the day after they got the waiver and I raised the issue of the redefinition of what would constitute student achievement.

I actually like being somewhere where I am lied to because it means this is a key point that needs to occur whatever the explanation. It is very odd how I have magically been privy to so many meetings that turned out to be crucial to have direct knowledge of a few years later.

peter

very frightening, rse.

As for cannibalism, I remember once reading a book called "Alive" while suffering with the flu. It was one of those strangely morbidly fascinating reads that I could not put down. (LUN)

daddy

The GRITS gal I mentioned earlier bought a place on the north end of the South Island about a dozen years ago. Only lasted 3-4 yrs before they discovered it was too far removed. Kinda like HI x 100.

Speaking of living in the boonies, I met an Aussie Businessman in Hong Kong a few years back, who lived on Norfolk Island, about a thousand miles due east of Australia:

he said he loved it, great beaches, decent weather, but especially the zero taxes, which was his real reason for claiming residence there.

I spent a large part of 2 years living on Diego Garcia
in the Indian Ocean, and we were about 1100 miles south of India, so that certainly qualifies as the boonies.

Anyone else have any good friends or acquaintances who live out in the middle of nowhere?

I suppose in JOM terms Alaska is the boonies, and A(B)'s beloved Hawaii certainly qualifies,
but who of the rest of us are currently most in the boonies?

MT on his San Juan Island?

Pagar in Panama?

Iggy in his mountain retreat?

Or am I missing someone else?

clarice

Packer I'm sorry to say looks exactly like a fellow school Bd member of some years past who seemed to think his role was to create endless chaos and prevent sensible outcomes. Exact look alike.Just slightly better trimmed beard. *shudder*

daddy

Holy Moly!

Motorcyclist dies in collision with moose on Anchorage road

...the second fatal collision between a moose and a vehicle in two days in Alaska's largest city..."Following the collision, the motorcycle continued down the roadway and into oncoming lanes of traffic where an SUV avoided colliding with the motorcycle and collided with a guard rail in the process,"

Jack the Jitney Rider

Is the first comment ever posted from The Hampton Jitney?

Of course the Redskins didn't disappoint but how about this Bengals and Browns. Common original founder.

Marlene

daddy,the remote northern Maine woods are considered the boonies. Our cabin is in the woods,but we are less than ten miles from I-95. The drive between Bangor and Houlton on I-95 is one of the most mind numbing and boring drives and while living in far northern Maine for 30 years,we traveled hundreds of times on that road. Most of those years of driving were without cellphones and Lord help you if you had a breakdown.

clarice

I'm spoiled. I know have almost everything delivered to my house. I don't know if I could bear to live where they wasn't possible no matter how appealing the scenery. I HATE TO SHOP.

Jack the Jitney Rider

daddy,

Visiting the Falklands convinced me they are the ultimate boonies.

Marlene

The Hundred Mile Wilderness in Maine is considered the wildest part of the AT. The thru hikers on the AT have caused headaches this season for the Baxter State Park Authority. When hikers reach Mt. Katahdin it is quite an acheivement and some hikers have turned the summit into party central. The Baxter State Park Authority,which has control of Katahdin held a recent meting and told the National Park Service and the AT people if they don't get a handle on the hikers that they will route the trail around Katahdin,worst case scenario.

daddy

I think "allegedly" said would be a tad more accurate, daddy, though it was disappointing to see fiction was again stranger than truth.

Ig,

I left off "allegedly" in accord with Clarice's excellent example of media narrative from today's Pieces. I suppose if Packer had been a Dem consuming Republicans instead of the other way round, the story would have described him as "a non-Vegan, Social Justice eater."

rse

clarice-I hate to shop too and I get to wear casual clothes most of the time now. Red has been flabbergasted when I do shop with her that I am like a machine on what works, what will not, what colors work, etc.

I am also tough about keeping he to what we agreed to. If it's to be a christmas present, I take it and it disappears until the 25th. She wanted something while she was home and I negotiated it into being both a christmas and graduation present, which works for me and her and she gets something lovely she will enjoy for years.

Jane

I just read on Facebook that Sturbridge is the 7th most redneck town in MA. And all this time I thought it was hoi polloi. Good thing I left. What a thing to have on my resume.

BTW has anyone watched Graceland? I woke up to see the end of Season 2 on Netflix and then nothing. There is no part of me that believes it ended that way.

Is there a season 3, and is it on TV?

rse

Totally offtopic but if anyone ever needs to chill a magnum of anything or wants a bootle of white and would like it good and cold within the hour, pasta pots make a great chiller. It also impressed my oldest no end when I bought a magnum of champagne for later on christmas afternoon and used the pasta pot to chill it.

This will also work at the beach as even poorly equipped kitchens tend to have such pots in the cabinet. Combine ice and water to get the quickest chill.

sbw

but who of the rest of us are currently most in the boonies?

Well, I live at the south edge of the Tug Hill Plateau.

daddy

daddy,the remote northern Maine woods are considered the boonies.

Marlene,

I think you've got a good case to be the JOMer most off in the boonies. I recall a few years back that sad stories of those 2 women who got lost hiking up near your cabin, who finally got rescued like 24 hours later, then drove their car back toward their hotel but turn a wrong turn in the fog, drove into the Ocean, and both drowned.

There's tragedy's and there's comedy's, but Shakespear sure was correct that the line between the 2 is darn thin.

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