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October 22, 2015

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glasater

First and last :-)

glasater

Wrangle is now arguing that US lives lost in Benghazi is no big deal..on Cavuto's show.

Dave (in MA)

Don't worry, the media will preserve the narrative that this is the mean Republicans badgering the First Woman President about her personal e-mails.

Sue

I'm not sure what I just watched but Hillary laughing during the exchange between Gowdy and Cummings was not a good picture. I also think Gowfy list that exchange.

glasater

What gets me is that the stock market is going up! Solely I believe on the premise that Hillary will not be touched by this hearing.
What a travesty!

Algonquin

Yet it isn't Hillary's fault that the investigation took so long.

How many email accounts of Hillary's are there?

I think the Defense Department turned over emails between Hillary and Petraeus snd that is how they found yet another email account for Hillary.

Sue

I hope some republican committee person was watching KT McFarland. Great questions to ask Hillary.

matt

This someone who did their best to beat the system. Every time a new trove of e mails or new account or new evidence comes out the Committee should be asking her "Is that your final answer?"

DoJ should be having a field day taking down such a nasty prevaricating witch who has harmed so many others.

henry

We still haven't found the good account.

James D

I wish I could believe this hearing will do any good at all, but I don't.

Sue

Someone should have said the same intel your husband used to bomb an aspirin factory?

Jane

I think someone should ask her if she believes she would have gotten Chris Steven's emails if she wasn't on a personal server.

lyle

Here's one early indication from the MFM that you're absolutely right, James D:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-clinton-defends-actions-in-benghazi-1445532326

GOP lawmakers point to failure to increase security in region; former secretary of state says requests didn’t rise to her level

henry

the 3am phone call didn't wake her?

lyle

For the love of God, I wish someone had the balls to ask Hilligula this question:

Madam Secretary, you've continually mentioned that Ambassador Stevens was a friend of yours--you've often called him by his first name, Chris. As you no doubt are aware, Ambassador Stevens was openly gay. Knowing this, why weren't you even more concerned with the welfare of this man and what he represented a to this important, vital constituency of this country? Do you not like gay men? Why not?

Beasts of England

#GayLivesMatter

Algonquin

This is interesting--from the transcript of today's hearing:

POMPEO: Yes, ma'am. May -- put the next poster up, please. Madam Secretary, you're not likely to know who these two folks are, do you?

CLINTON: I do not.

POMPEO: The one on the left is Mohamed al-Zahawi. He was the head of Ansar al-Sharia, a jihadist group based in Benghazi. The man on your left is Wissam bin Hamid. Were you aware that your folks in Benghazi, Libya met with that man on the -- within 48 hours before the attack?

CLINTON: I know nothing about any meeting with him.

POMPEO: On September 11th, on the day that he was killed, Ambassador Stevens sent a cable through the State Department talking about his meeting with Mr. Bin Hamid. Are you aware of that cable?

CLINTON: No, I'm not.

POMPEO: He said -- in his cable, he said they -- referring to Mr. Wissam Bin Hamid -- they wanted an introductory meeting, they were here. They asked us what we needed to bring security to Benghazi. So your officials were meeting with this man on the ground in Benghazi, Libya, discussing security, two days before that. But in August of that same year, the United States government had said that this very man was, quote, "a young rebel leader who allegedly fought in Iraq under the flag of al-Qaida."

Were you aware that our folks were either wittingly or unwittingly meeting with al-Qaida on the ground in Benghazi, Libya, just hours before the attack?

CLINTON: I know nothing about this, Congressman.

POMPEO: I think that's deeply disturbing. I think the fact that your team was meeting...

GMax

Powerline is saying that Jim Jordan ( that would be a member of the House Freedom Caucus) was quite effective at hammering despicable she.

Says also that Brooks and Westmoreland asked too many open ended questions, letting her dance and filibuster.

Buckeye

Bitch is doing her best to shift blame to the "security experts" or whatever the hell she calls them.

Deserves a brick wall and a blindfold.

lyle

Deserves a brick wall and a blindfold.

Deserves to be dropped into Benghazi tomorrow all by her lonesome to wander the streets. No security detail with those icky guns she wants to confiscate from Americans.

lyle

And now a quick note from the GOPe:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/former-majority-leader-eric-cantor-slams-the-tea-party-and-t#.rbpGpW401

"Overseas interview," dontcha know.

GMax

Pompeo graduated first in his class from West Point? That is impressive...

Buckeye

God help us if this woman actually ends up as president.

Algonquin

The most effective that I saw was Pompeo.

One thing you have to hand to Hillary, to most of the public --the content and details of what you say does not matter much.

It is how you--emote that matters.

Also note Elijah's outburst.

Illogic and anger is how you can get most to abandon reason.

Algonquin

West Point?

Ah hah.

maryrose

I still maintain her I attention lack of interest and knowledge paint a picture of an ineffective Secretary who would do a crappy job as president

Jack is Back!

She is back and doesn't look good. In fact, she looks visibly sick.

maryrose

Should be no attention

Algonquin

One thing to remember--

Hillary requested a public hearing.


There's probably a lot of details Hillary does not want the electorate to hear.

IOW the House Republicans are prevented from taking some lines of questioning today because --unlike Hillary --they have to repect classified information.

lyle

For your cynical laff of the day (from PJM):

“I’ve thought more about what happened than all of you put together,” Clinton said of losing the four Americans. “I’ve lost more sleep than all of you put together.”
henry

Matbe Cummings just learned hwat comes next & shared it with her.

maryrose

I think people are hearing a lot of things about Hillary that are damaging and harmful to her image
Her trying to weasel out of unsolicited is a perfect example and the campaign ad writes itself as does her complete lack of overall knowledge

lyle

Remember: We STILL don't know where Zero was the night of the attack or what he was doing. Okay, we know he was probably doing rails...but where and with whom??

GMax

Has she tried the good old standbye, "I learned about it like the American people did, when I heard it on the evening news"? I hear the media believes that one every time its used...

Algonquin

Gowdy is really, really good here.

Jane

Keep in mind the left is only hearing what they want to hear, and probably so are we.

Buckeye

Excuse me. "security professionals", not "security experts".

lyle

Quite so, Jane. The left simply doesn't care about honesty or integrity but the ends justifying the means.

buccaneer morgan

Ok zahawi was the face on ansaralaharia, Hamid ran the shield batallion that is now allied with same. This is like asking safe passage from whitey bulges.

lyle

Exhibit A: the cretinous Elijah Cummings. What a partisan asshole.

Algonquin

Libya was Hillary's baby. She pushed for the no-fly zone in Libya at the UN.

This was Obama's big example of how things should be done when we intervene overseas, and now Hillary is trying to explain that Libya was not one of her big priorities.

henry

The buck didn't rise to her level.

maryrose

Sanchez has dyed her hair when she should lose weight to look better

Algonquin

Except when her cronies where trying to get at the oil and other contracts---then her personal greasers got her personal email.

Algonquin

Except when her cronies *were* trying to get contracts.

jimmyk

Thanks y'all for live blogging the hearings. Happy Birthday, narciso.

Just a comment from the last thread (alas, these days I seem always to be a few hours behind) on Ryan and the whole speaker "mess." Not surprisingly I agree with CH on this:

Democracy can be messy; we can have lots and lots of votes without violating the Constitution.

I see so many "conservatives" going along with the idea that the speaker fight is an "unmitigated disaster" and "chaos." I honestly don't get it. Maybe it's just inside-the-beltway BS.

And from TK:
I believe [Ryan's] spineless nature favors the agenda of a leftist more so than most members of the freedom caucus.

The problem with Ryan is not that he's a leftist or that he's generally spineless, but he's a policy wonk, and that doesn't instinctively first ask "Why is government even involved in this?" Rather, they ask "How can government do it better?" That's a bad starting point.

Miss Marple 2

Jane,

I am trying to be as impartial as I can make myself, given that I despise this woman.

What I am getting is a picture of someone who really didn't know how to administer a department, what her responsibilities really were, and didn't take security issues seriously.

I have learned that hardly any requests for security made it to her desk, that State people met with Al Qaeda people the day before, that some of Sidney Blumenthal's emailswere written by someone else and she passed them along without attribution or without knowing the source, blacking out Blumenthal's name.

I have learned that Ambassador Stevens didn't have her email address, but Blumenthal did.

clarice

Sanchez reading questions passed her by Clintonistas.

Miss Marple 2

I hadn't seen Sanchez on TV in some time, and boy, has she put on weight! I didn't recognize her.

Jack is Back!

A little OT but shows how you need to be aware where you go swimming in Florida. This is near narciso and me.

http://patch.com/new-york/southampton/s/fd1h2/fatal-florida-alligator-attack-confirmed

maryrose

Libya is hung like an albatross around her neck
Saying Obama made the ultimate decision just passes the buck

maryrose

Blaming Stevens again for her failure
Despicable person

Miss Marple 2

These democrat efforts with softball questions and statements allowing her to filibuster are pointless, because Hillary drones on with boilerplate platitudes which sound like Charlie Brown's teacher to me.

By the way, Sean Smith's uncle was on Fox and he is highly irate that she is trying to place the responsibility for being in Benghazi on the victims. He said, "Yes, they knew there was danger, but they expected someone would have their back!"

Janet

first ask "Why is government even involved in this?" Rather, they ask "How can government do it better?" That's a bad starting point.

Very good point, jimmyk.

I love the question - "Why is government even involved in this?"
That is THE question.

Sue

I'm listening as a person used to trials. I understand this isn't a court if law. I'm not impressed with Gowdy. I think Hillary hasnt been touched. I hope we aren't hanging beating her in 16 on this hearing.

Algonquin

Stevens also advocated for a DC-9 so that his overstretched security could cover both Tripoli and Benghazi.

Seeing as Doherty had to grab and /or contract a private flight that day

which added to the almost eight hours it took for Doherty to reach Benghazi that day-

Stevens looks pretty damn prescient.

Sue

Hillary is skilled at double speak. And with a compliant media, she gets away with it.

henry

JiB, that is scary. No warning sign... unlike the guy in my old hometown of Orange TX who decided the "No Swimming Alligators" sign was bs earlier this summer. (beer was involved).

Captain Hate on the iPad

Good to see Forest Gump is still salty and clueless over why he was sent packing.

The GOPe mantra: We have to show we can govern by helping to pass malignant crap which nobody wants.

glasater

Libya was too dangerous for the previous ambassador to Libya..so ya, send in a homosexual in the midst of fanatic Islamists fighting each other in that country.

Miss Marple 2

Well, Sue, I am listening like an average person. The picture I am getting is at the very least, an incompetent administrator.

Algonquin

buccaneer

Do we know them from Afghanistan?

Sue

MM,

You are listening as a person who despises her. And knows she's guilty. I hope you are right and I am wrong.

Algonquin

Sue

Given the lean of the media--I'm not too worried about us hearing things in an unbias fashion.

I think we would need a herd of elephants to tip that scale.

Jack is Back!

CH,

I think you and JamesD woiuld enjoy reading How to Bag a RINO. Me thinks those two kids were lurkers here and took some the comments and ran them right through Cantor's evil heart.

Captain Hate on the iPad

I think the attitudes on Rodham regarding Banghazi have been locked in for each voter for a long time and this hearing won't change a thing. The shocking thing to me is that 404's callous disregard and lying about the cause has remained untouched.

Miss Marple 2

True, Sue.

However, I think I am correct in that there is a record of security lapses, inattention to details, and general unseriousness.

Captain Hate on the iPad

JiB, I'm sure you're correct.

Miss Marple 2

I still want to know where Obama was while all this was going on.

Sue

Hillary's facial expressions might be a problem.

Miss Marple 2

That creep dem is on again. I am going to get some work done while he's blabbing.

Jack is Back!

Hey, Smith, STFU!

Algonquin

Ambassador Cretz --that goes back to Col. Wood's earlier Benghazi testimony.

See here:

COL. WOOD: Yes sir, I did. I assisted Eric Nordstrom in preparation of the requests for support, in as much as they dealt with SST support. I reviewed some of those documents and a � and assisted in the preparation of those. I�d like to � I�d like to add also that there was frustration from the beginning.

The initial � or perhaps this � it was the second request for extension that occurred on April 5th � Ambassador Cretz encountered some difficulty in understanding what was going on; he was getting conflicting signals from DOD and DOS. I got him together with General Ham; they worked out a complete understanding. And General Ham made it very clear to Ambassador Cretz that he could have the SST as long as he needed them. This was a great interagency cooperation, and that was made very clear to him.

It was also made clear to Joan Polaschik, who took over as charge d'affairs in between Ambassador Cretz and Ambassador Stevens. He came personally, and told her that.

He also had a VTC with Ambassador Stevens and reiterated that same point that the SST was his as long as he needed them; all he had to do was request them, and General Ham was perfectly willing to provide that support.


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For whatever reason--The State Department did not accept the security.

Laura

not enough xanax or too much

Captain Hate on the iPad

If Rodham is the candidate her performance at State has to be continually hammered mercilessly. I don't think señor Yeb is up to that.

Janet

Yeah...the Smith guy is really pompous & condescending. Aummmmmm...he reminds me...Aummmmm.... of many of my neighbors.

DrJ

Right on cue:

House Republican leaders are unlikely to bring up a bill that would tie a debt-ceiling increase to several other conservative policy proposals, underscoring the party’s deep divisions over how to tackle the debt ceiling.

...

Because so few Republicans are willing to vote for increasing the federal government’s borrowing limit, GOP leaders will likely have to turn to Democrats to help them increase the debt limit with no policy strings attached. But Republican leaders may not be ready yet to bring such a bill, known as a “clean” debt-ceiling increase, to the floor yet.

Jack is Back!

I wonder if Mrs. Smith is watching the Witch present her narrative as to what happened to Sean Smith and Chris Stevens. Come on Hill, shed a tear.

Algonquin

The media sat on this.

Trust me on that.

They are going to sit on this again-/save FOX, but then we know how FOX has been discredited.

Hillary with this media is a dangerous thing.

Sue-- read Solzhenitsyn's Commencement address at Harvard from about 1978.

It's called something like The Exhausted West.

Pay close attention to what he says about the media , and also realize that what he said becomes truer and truer every day.

jimmyk

known as a “clean” debt-ceiling increase

Right there is a bit of a PR issue. Rs should be calling a no-conditions debt-ceiling increase "dirty," because it fails to do anything to clean up (or shrink) government.

buccaneer morgan

No, he was just an auto mechanic, but he ran interference for any khattalah the button man, that is offered up as line figure.

Thomas joscelyn profiled him last August in long was journal.

Captain Hate on the iPad

Per Tammy Bruce, on Rodham's campaign website Glen Doherty's name is misspelled.

Johns_Creek_Bill

Whe is shoe going to be called to account for the lies she told the families at Dover AFB?

Jack is Back!

Notice the wry grin (very slight) from Dave Kendall as Mike Pompeo grills Hillary. Ex partners at Williams and Connolly. Engineers who become lawyers are not the type to fool with.

Johns_Creek_Bill

Should read:

"When is she going to be called to account for the lies she told the families at Dover AFB?"

Sometimes it seems that my fingers are as fat has her cankles.

Miss Marple 2

From Debra French Bloom on Twitter, a depiction of Representative Smith:

buccaneer morgan

That meeting is not new, re that link. He's like the other guy who was capped while sparing decsprios character.

Jane

Sue,

You are probably correct. I do think it is coming thru that she wasn't involved in the security situation, and should have been involved.

Her devotees won't admit that, and other than people like us, probably no one else is watching.

The democrats truly make me want to barf. They are so dishonest.

The Infamous Ignatz

--the 3am phone call didn't wake her?--

Hard for the phone to ring when she only gives cronies her email phone number.

Ann

Is anyone going to ask her why she lied to the parents of the fallen?

Were there any questions about the bogus video?

squaredance

"Because so few Republicans are willing to vote for increasing the federal government’s borrowing limit, GOP leaders will likely have to turn to Democrats to help them increase the debt limit with no policy strings attached."

See this is just what I am talking about. If the situation was reversed, the Dems would get something out of it. People on the Right who follow this are furious about this.

No one believes the GOP "leadership".

Now nobody can be this stupid,. not even the GOP.

I am telling you that they are going to blow it next year, as they have on the last 2 Presidential election. They living ina dream worls.

When some like Cantor say something like that, it just infuriates people. And if we are honest with ourselves, across the nation when people here that they will think something along the lines of "radical populists? Is that a new name for the goyem?"

These things are just devastating for the GOP.

They need to do some soul searching and figure out if just what is going on. They need to stop lying to conservatives. They need to come to us with open hands.

Instead they behave like condescending jerks.

They need to understand what 4 more years of Democrat rule will do to this country.

Extraneus

She's gonna impress a lot of lefties today. They loved they way ol' Bill lied and got away with it.

DrJ

When does the Hillary! hearing end?

Janet

She's describing what she tried to do once all hell broke loose....but why wasn't anything on alert or ready? It was an anniversary of 9-11. Did that not register AT ALL?

Janet

There was enough money for an Islamic dinner party.

henry

And electric car charging stations at various embassies.

buccaneer morgan

On the wrong month, I must emphasize.

Janet

Exactly, henry.

buccaneer morgan

Of course the Egyptian prime minister, is wondering were the ones that had the riot provoked by zawahiri's brother's tape.

BeenThereDoneThat

I wonder if the 'front runner' will make hay out of this hearing. Hill's obfuscations and outright lies should be showcased and made fun of - smart power? heh...

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