Hillarity! Day

What is Hillary saying now?

The NY Times tiptoes around the evolution of her email explanations. I adore this:

Initial Statement

March 10, 2015 "We went through a thorough process to identify all of my work-related emails and delivered them to the State Department,” she said. “I have absolute confidence that everything that could be in any way connected to work is now in the possession of the State Department.” — statement by Mrs. Clinton at United Nations news conference

Later comments

June 25, 2015 It was disclosed in June that there were 15 emails between Mrs. Clinton and her longtime adviser Sidney Blumenthal, mainly dealing with events in Libya, that Mrs. Clinton did not provide to the State Department. In response to that development, a Clinton campaign official said, “We do not have a record of other correspondence between her and Mr. Blumenthal beyond that which was turned over to the State Department.” The official added, “We do not recognize many of those materials and cannot speak to their origin.” — The New York Times

...

Analysis

The campaign has not said what happened to these emails. But its failure to turn them over to the State Department has raised questions about whether Mrs. Clinton gave the department all the messages pertaining to her work as the nation’s top diplomat.

Questions have been raised! And answered, obviously - there is no question that not all the relevant emails were turned over. The only question might be, was this some sort of archiving error, or, well, editorial discretion as exercised by Team Clinton?

Comments

[buccaneer morgan]

And the Clinton foundation was founded in part from an offshore tax havens.

[Beester]

Squaredance--the elites in the uniparty don't care what happens to the country. They believe, and are likely right, that they are protected. The uniparty is the new feudal aristocracy. The serfs benefit from noblesse oblige and the tradesmen are despised.

[buccaneer morgan]

Library, massage parlor whatever.

[Jim Eagle]

Dow up 321. Thanks Hillary or Trey?

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Yay! Stock Market's up - all is well, Hillary won! Not surprising, since the Democrats own the economy, the press, the government and the corporations.

[clarice]

My campaign video would be short--it would be Hillary before the caskets blaming the video;Hillary telling the mother of one of the deceased that the video maker would be arrested and her testimony today that she never blamed it on the video--Just a couple of minutes..Message at end--are you ready for a president who lies over the bodies of dead American patriots?

[clarice]

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/10/22/clinton-survives-benghazi-committee-hearing-n2069674

[Threadkiller]

Shemp suggests the hearing that Fox pre-empted every other show for is hardly worth it. He says he has been watching ESPN.

Some bald asshole states that most Americans don't even understand what is going on and probably won't change their support for their preferred party.

Uh huh.

[Old Lurker]

Good plan Clarice but the ad would have to show the picture of the email she sent to her own daughter that very night telling her that AQ has killed tow of our officers...

Here it is from Drudge:

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/22/hillary-told-daughter-chelsea-that-terrorists-were-behind-benghazi-attack-the-night-it-happened-video/

[Algonquin]

Hell you can tell Shep Smith doesn't give a damn about the deaths of Stevens, Smith, Doherty and Woods.

And the reporter from The Washington Times--isn't hearing anything new--possibly because he isn't doing his job.

Instead he's gadfly-ing about.

The Pompeo first line of questioning was new to me...but some how this reporter at The Washington Times has heard before?

It's possible he's heard it before--but America has not --because he chose to NOT report it.

I know milennials that smell a rat when it comes to Hillary's nesting doll system of emails, that something they even know instinctively as shady.

[Cecil Turner]

See this is just what I am talking about. If the situation was reversed, the Dems would get something out of it. People on the Right who follow this are furious about this.

If we can only get forty more Republicans to vote against it, we can get a better deal, right? Right?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Shemp gets away with badmouthing Rove News Channel programming? Strange amount of job security imo.

[Steve]

Watch Live - Hillary Clinton testifies before the Benghazi committee

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2015/10/watch-live-hillary-clinton-testifies.html

[buccaneer morgan]

Gutfriend, he's red queen's trained Schneider.

[Algonquin]

Notice the technique of the Liberal press--first they don't report it, or they decide it isn't important for you because Obama must be reelected, then after Hillary stalls and drags things out--

Journolist--a la Ezra Klein declares--

It's all OLD!

Sorry but even the young voters know something sleazy is going on with Hillary and her Labryrinthian Maze of Email .

[clarice]

True, she did that--but I believe in keeping it absolutely SIMPLE.

[Algonquin]

It's no surprise that Shep Smith does not get the honor code of-

Leave no man behind.

It bores him, the Mets are on!

(You would think FOX would at least not insult those that are watching and would not want their own anchor declaring his disinterest--and suggesting competitive programming!---)

[Sue]

The Mets won last night. What is he watching? A rerun?

[Algonquin]

Sue

Seriously!?

I swear to Gaia --I heard him say something like --the Mets are on!

I did switch to Jake Tapper at CNN for something more fair and balanced.

Holy crap.

[Cecil Turner]

On the security situation (i.e., the "broader failures of policy" cited by Rhodes):
The main failure was leaving Iraq, which destabilized the whole region and gave away our only foothold.

The secondary failure was the gratuitous "kinetic military action" against Libya, which furthered no national security interest, and punished a foreign leader for complying with US anti-proliferation demands.

The tertiary failure was not enough security in Libya and not bothering to have a military standby, due apparently to wishful thinking.

On the email:
Clinton was the classifying authority and has absolute responsibility for the material on her server.

She knew she couldn't run State without discussing classified information, and thus had someone "scrub" markings and specifics. It's surely illegal and DoJ might even get around to admitting it.

She didn't care, because she rates control of politically sensitive information above national security.

On the post-attack misinformation:
The broader policy failures would've torpedoed Obama's reelection campaign. 'Nuff said.

Most of the stuff above was primarily Obama's responsibility, except for the emails. I think her main problem remains the private server and the obvious security issues. And I agree with Algonquin above that millenials are less likely to give her a pass on that point.

[Algonquin]

The DOW up, maybe thank China for not moving on the Phillipines, yet.

[Algonquin]

I'd like to drop Shep off in Syria and leave him pleading with the State Department for protection.

[Algonquin]

Cecil

Yep, for whatever reason the younger voters I talk to--Hillary's email maze gets their attention, and it makes them uncomfortable with her.

It could explain some of the Sanders phenomenon.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

Obama just vetoed Defense Bill:

WASHINGTON, DC – House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) issued the following statement in response to President Obama’s veto of the conference report to H.R. 1735, the National Defense Authorization Act:

“By placing domestic politics ahead of our troops, President Obama has put America’s national security at risk. This indefensible veto blocks pay and vital tools for our troops while Iranian terrorists prepare to gain billions under the president’s nuclear deal. Congress should not allow this veto to stand.”

[Sue]

I heard him too. Maybe they had a celebration on? They won the series last night. Swept the Cubs.

[DebinNC]

WaPo on 9-1-12: "Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton will be about as far away as her State Department plane could take her when the [Dem] convention opens in Charlotte. She left Washington on Thursday for an island hopping trip across the South Pacific and Southeast Asia, with visits to the Cook Islands, Timor-Leste and Brunei, on the island of Borneo. With additional stops in Indonesia, China and Russia, Clinton will be out of the country until several days after the convention ceremonies are over [the evening of Sept. 6]."

BOzo left the convention and immediately began a whirl of campaign stops that lasted through the weekend, which iirc he spent going all over FL, before finally returning to DC. Libya wasn't on either's radar.

[buccaneer morgan]

Well they know emails, the cubs swept so all things are possible.

[buccaneer morgan]

It had the never get out of gitmo provision.

[Janet]

NBC Andrea Mitchell - NBC: Hillary ‘Fired Up’ for Benghazi Hearing; GOP ‘Disqualified Themselves’

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kyle-drennen/2015/10/22/nbc-hillary-fired-benghazi-hearing-gop-disqualified-themselves

then this - Watch Hillary Gleefully Laugh as Andrea Mitchell Clip Played in Her Defense at Benghazi Hearing

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/2015/10/22/watch-hillary-gleefully-laugh-andrea-mitchell-clip-played-her-hearing#sthash.iVLx6xgs.dpuf

[buccaneer morgan]

The medici's statement re Mrs. Benoist was not as tpaw re lady have but close.

[Algonquin]

Sue

Phew!

CNN is now asking why Stevens was in Benghazi.

IIRC that day Stevens had a meeting on that September 11th with an official of the Libyan nationalized oil company.

Benghazi is a huge oil distribution hub.

(The source for that IIRC was British.)

Some also report, but I not know for sure that Stevens met with a Turkish diplomat that day.

The best reporting immediately was from Nic Robertson-- but weirdly it was at CNN's international website.

[buccaneer morgan]

One recalls trandreas@captain hate, snarky appearance re the huntress's bookstore in Virginia.

[Sue]

KT McFarland is sure they were gun running, ala Iran/Contra. She thinks if the committee members would ask the right question that would be the smoking gun.

[narciso]

I did a whole series at my blog narcisos corner starting in September 2012, which covered all those points and more.

[narciso]

That's the most reasonable explanation, however neither Doherty and co, nor zeist and parento were involved in that.

[rse]

jimmy's comment at 2:10 is right on point. Ryan is not a Leftist so much as someone who buys into Dirigisme as long as the providers are private entities.

I went back and looked at his first job at Empower America and recognized that Reinventing Government rhetoric. Then I doublechecked with someone who was going to meetings of theirs in the 90s who said absolutely, the first time she met the Seattle Pacific/Building Civilization Leadership crowd was at an EA meeting in the mid-90s.

We do not think of the term Conservative as someone who wants governments to be in charge with private and nonprofits as the providers but for many when they hype "free enterprise, Limited government, and market-based" that is just what they mean.

I am sure Ryan is a nice man and a good policy wonk but even his letter stated he had policy he wanted to pursue. Because we are all craving more government. Block grants are not limited government and they are not really traditional federalism either if we read the small print.

In federal legislation the small print is usually the language 3/4's of the way through after any sane person is asleep.

[DebinNC]

From the official House GOP site today after clicking on the "About" section: One picture that encapulates Boehner's subpar tenure. First, it's a bad pic, being too dark and too crowded. Second, is that a smiling Eric Cantor in the front-right? Third, why are the women relegated to the outskirts? Fourth, who is that enormous white guy prominently filling the primo center spot? I see Kevin McCarthy's out front, but where is Mia Love, Trey Gowdy, and Paul Ryan? Is this a pic of the Boehner fan club?

[henry]

Fourth, Boehner's food taster? ( not that anyone in DC would harm a hair on his orange head).

[Extraneus]

Yay! Stock Market's up

All sectors, too, except Health Care.

[Stephanie]

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260496/hillarys-libyan-lies-muslim-brotherhood-terror-and-daniel-greenfield#.Vik97dKu26A.facebook

Excellent takedown of Hillary's defense today.

[Old Lurker]

Sue "She thinks if the committee members would ask the right question (re gun running) that would be the smoking gun."

Probably they are not asking on purpose. Boehner and Mike Rogers were probably in the loop.

[henry]

From our lurker building collapse. Boeing hq in Chicago?

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

I don't think Paulie Dreamboat is a bad person; I just don't want him as Speaker of the House.

[clarice]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOjX-o9axmw

[Sue]

OL,

Distinct possibility.

[Sue]

Henry,

Thoughts and prayers to the people and first responders.

[henry]

Ok, construction site across street from Boeing. 2nd major accident in a year. I gotta wonder if ant servers were harmed.

[narciso]

Well the free house had that surmise.

[clarice]

Stephanie, that is a great article.

[Old Lurker]

Good one Clarice.

[Old Lurker]

"construction site across street from Boeing"

You really do need to look at those "concrete curing charts" that JiB memorized when he was a lad before you remove the supports on the lower floors. If that's what is was.

[Jack is Back!]

Sue,

I think Congress via the various hearings especially intelligence oversight have already uncovered the gun running. Why they don't issue a report I can't figure. Those MANPADS ended up somewhere and not here or in Turkey.

I totally agree with Clarice. Just juxtopose her testimony today with the Andrews casket ceremony. I would keep it simple but have a cameo of Mrs. Smith and her comments on Hillary being a liar.

[Sue]

Jack,

I haven't heard that. I don't think McFarland had either.

[Jack is Back!]

Sue,

Hell, a number of us were discussing the gunrunning here right after the attack. I am surprised that McFarland and others are being so iffy about it. You don't have many other options for why there was a CIA contractor annex in Benghazi.

[Miss Marple]

CNN is continuing with the hearing. Jordan going after the video lie again.

[Sue]

Jack,

I know we speculated. I didn't know committees had actually uncovered it.

[Miss Marple]

Jordan is doing well, and she is floundering .

[Algonquin]

The reason the current ARB cannot be fully talked about at this public hearing.

Trey Gowdy letter to Elijah Cummings, Oct. 7th

."Ms. Mills and her appearance provide a perfect illustration as to why we do not release transcripts. Serious allegations have been made against several State Department employees in connection with PRODUCTION of documents related to the Accountability Review Board. These allegations are serious enough to investigate and serious enough not to repeat until such time as they are investigated."

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The only thing these hearings are ever good for is if they have an absolute, slam dunk smoking gun already in their possession before it starts or some dramatic "have you no sense of decency" moment.

Otherwise they change almost nothing one way or t'other.

[Extraneus]

Concession: Ryan promises Freedom Caucus he’ll delay discussion of reforming procedure for removing the Speaker

Then he's in. Hopefully he'll surprise us.

[Beasts of England]

Tiffany says 'Hey y'all!' Except she says it more like 'Hey yaaaaaaaa'll'. And that's a good thing. :)

[Algonquin]

The bolding and all caps of the word --production, added .

[henry]

Ext, nothing will change.

[Algonquin]

Also Thomas Pickering is ...still alive.

But I do remember feeling compelled to verify that when I first heard he was appointed to the ARB for Benghazi.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

henry,
If Ryan can just refrain from bawling every time a sentimental oatmeal commercial with a kid and his dad comes on or some dog that looks kinda like Ol Yeller is on a dogfood can it will be a significant change for the better right out the gate.

[Extraneus]

From the Greenfield link:

Having dragged Obama into Hillary’s war, Blumenthal was now pushing Hillary to blackmail him with the threat of losing the election if he didn’t escalate the conflict. Meanwhile he was pursuing his interest in getting the Libyans to pay for military training from a private military company he was linked to.

The entire nightmarish mess of Democratic conspiracy theories about Iraq, Blood for Oil, politicians fighting wars to win elections, corporate conflicts of interest and even private military companies are all here and no one will touch it. A roster of Democratic candidates still running against the Iraq War won’t talk about an illegal dirty regime change war that took place with their backing and support.

Bernie Sanders, who sputters incoherently about the Iraq War, co-sponsored the Senate resolution supporting a No Fly Zone in Libya. This was the Senate resolution that Obama exploited as a fig leaf of Senate approval for his illegal war.

Senator Sanders can’t criticize Hillary’s illegal war because he helped make it happen.

Hillary’s war has been an unmitigated disaster. Her lies about the war have been disproven. But not even the Democrats running against her are ready to hold her accountable for it.

[henry]

Lol Ig. He's more likely to share picks of the deer he just slayed. But in terms of Obama getting the usual pass, that won't change.

[Extraneus]

I agree, Ig. He'll probably be a step up from Boehner, except on weekends and family time.

[Miss Marple]

I think you guys forget about Obama at that meeting where Ryan confront Ed him with the numbers and Obama got really mad.

Ryan being the Speaker Obama will take as a personal affront.

[Stephanie]

Can someone please rename the BDS movement as every time I see that moniker I think Bush Derangement Syndrome not Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions...

Gah!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Since all I've been doing is criticizing, congrats to Ryan and the FC for compromising and congrats to Boehner for passing a defense bill the creep disliked enough to veto.
Doubt they can override though.

[henry]

Same idiots recycling signs Stephanie.

[Algonquin]

The Trey Gowdy letter to Cummings continues...

"Cheryl Mills and the Accountability Review Board

This brings me to the substance of the highly selective disclosures and allegations in your letter. The letter conveniently ignores--likely because it was not politically advantageous for you to include--the fact that Cheryl Mills testified she did in fact suggest changes to the Accountability Review Board report before it was made public. This again is problematic and once again calls into question the independence of the ARB,.."

[Laura]

What ever happened to that Paul Ryan, who straight up pwnd Obama over the lies that were Obamacare? He seems to have gone missing. Eventually the devil makes a deal even the best politicians can't refuse and they sell their souls.

[Miss Marple]

Laura,

I don't know.

I go back to my theory of demonic forces.

[narciso]

The arb is a travismochasham, besides the fact no relevant testimony was taken, you have fair and niac afficionado pickering, stiffed popinjay admiral mullen, and I'm sure there's another hack I've forgotten.

[Algonquin]

Gowdy letter to Cummings continues.

" ...Mill's review of the ARB prior to it being made public becomes even more concerning when recognizing that she handpicked members of the ARB, contrary to State Department regulations designed to ensure that the ARB remains an independent process."

[GMax]

Ryan is going to be Speaker. Frankly, its likely in my opinion he will be better than Boehner and better than Hastert. I am certain there will be times that I will disagree with him on both policy and tactics and strategy.

[GMax]

Continuing on with my thoughts. He will definitely be better than Eric Cantor, and is way brighter than Kevin McCarthy.

[Stephanie]

It's DoD's fault!

She's suddenly drinking an inordinate amount of water late in the day. Diabetes?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I used to have high hopes for Paulie before association with R$ stained him worse than Palin with My Friensh and turned him into Eddie Munster. He can get it back, I guess, but trust lost is hard to regain.

jimmyk, are you staying close to home for Thanksgiving? If so, I'll be in Brooklyn from Tuesday until Saturday.

[Extraneus]

becomes even more concerning

Is that correct English? Not to be pedantic, but I thought the word was "disconcerting" until recently. Is "concerning" really a word?

[Miss Marple]

Stephanie,

I attribute it to her constant droning testimony, nerves, and stalling.

[Jane]

Judge Napolitano made an interesting point. Hillary is doing well in front of 2 of her 3 audiences. The problem is #3, which is the FBI.

[Algonquin]

narciso

So essentially Mullen's --who was suppose to be a neutral judge of the facts as a member of the ARB---

called Mills behind the scenes to tell her that they should keep Charlene Lamb from testifying...

If that is how I read the rest of it.

[Extraneus]

Napolitano is dreaming.

[henry]

Diabetes? Lack of Corona

[Algonquin]

Popinjay, heh.

[narciso]

Yes, and that was revealed two years ago.

[Algonquin]

Extraneus

That could be on me, I'm typing it out on my IPhone...

Let me double check that.

[Miss Marple]

The FBI will be paying attention. Whether it gets moved out of the FBI to another level I doubt.

I am grateful for this hearing, though, because at least it proves we aren't crazy.

[Algonquin]

"...becomes even more concerning.."

Yep, that's how they have it.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

You can't spell diabetes without DTs.

[Algonquin]

narciso

Correct, but if you read Gowdy's letter they are using Mullen's testimony to bolster the new testimony from Mill's which shows that the ARB was not independent.

Also that there are serious allegations about people at the State Department concerning the production of documents presented to the ARB.

Whatever that might mean.

[Stephanie]

Who is the nodding bastard behind her right shoulder?

[Jane]

I dunno, I've become convinced that the FBI is independent from the administration. Do you guys disagree?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Did Clenis accompany brave Sir Edmund Hillary Diane Rodham or was this an opportunity to spend more than four hours with The Energizer?

[Algonquin]

There's something effective about Rep. Roby.

An earnestness.

Thank you Rep. Roby.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Yes, Jane, I disagree.

[Stephanie]

Totally disagree Jane. There have been several partisan attempts at prosecutions of politicians in several states that have been specious.