It Might Take A While To Digest This Report

But the upshot seems to be that we've been fed a steady diet of dietary advice that should have been taken with a healthy dose of skepticism.

We'll file this long WaPo article under the heading "Big Government Fail".  Which is a long-running, oft-recurring, hair-pulling, teeth-grinding JustOneMinute theme.

The article begins:

U.S. dietary guidelines have long recommended that people steer clear of whole milk, and for decades, Americans have obeyed. Whole milk sales shrunk. It was banned from school lunch programs. Purchases of low-fat dairy climbed.

“Replace whole milk and full-fat milk products with fat-free or low-fat choices,” says the Dietary Guidelines for Americans, the federal government's influential advice book, citing the role of dairy fat in heart disease.

Whether this massive shift in eating habits has made anyone healthier is an open question among scientists, however. In fact, research published in recent years indicates that the opposite might be true: millions might have been better off had they stuck with whole milk.

Read Chew through the whole thing.

And if you think I'm done milking the puns for all they're worth, well, let's just say there's still meat on that bone.

Ok. I'm done.  

 

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Comments

[daddy]

This juvenile practice of "First"
perversely is JOM at it's worst.
But play it I must
so please eat my dust.
'Tis fun to be jealously cursed:)

[Soothing grammar Nazi]

There, they're, their.

[henry]

Jeff you may be done, but have you completed your punning?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Whole milk was usually the only palatable thing Mother Hate, a wretchedly bad cook, put in front of me.

[Miss Marple]

Just adding a repeat from the last thread that there was a Congressional hearing on these guidelines today.

A GOP guy pointed out they completely change every 5 years, to the point that most people ignore them.

So, given that, he wanted to know why we pay for them at all.

A very good question.

[Jeff Dobbs]

I coulda stealth edited my typo, but now I've got SgN's comment to point it out forever.

[Jeff Dobbs]

(i mean, i did edit the typo, of course...it's just not that stealth now)

[Jack is Back! :]

Tonight I mad a Chicken Pot Pie by going to Citarella and buying one. 30 minutes in a 350F overn. Frederick and I devoured it because it saved us all that time.

[Beasts of England]

Is this the Brady thread?

[daddy]

Yay!

Freedom Caucus backs Webster for House speaker in blow to McCarthy

[Marlene]

We drank gallons of whole milk growing up,back in the day when we had a milkman. I've been using skim milk for years,and even 2% tastes rich and thick.

[Jeff Dobbs]

henry:
Jeff you may be done, but have you completed your punning?

Who knows, I might cook some more up at some point.

[Miss Marple]

Captain Hate,

My daughter-in-law is a pretty bad cook. Her father is a restauranteur and did all the cooking and never allowed the girls to help.

Consequently her meals are heavy on Hamburger Helper and frozen pizza.

This is why my grandkids prefer Kraft dinner and such. To them it's " home cooking."

LOL!

[henry]

Well, Brady's soufflé recipe was under inflated.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Miss Marple,

In defense of my mother, a friend recently showed me a cookbook from the fifties he snagged from cleaning out his parents' house. Dear God everything looked and sounded horrible

[Beasts of England]

I have no proof that his soufflé was actually born in the oven, henry.

[Jack is Back! :]

I am not a Rand Paul fan, but he does has his moments. But his put down on a Fornier gotcha was special and good for him.

[daddy]

Recipes? Never, never make the new chic Mac 'N Cheese from the WSJ. Yeah it was tasty and full of cheese and great pasta but it took me 3 hours, dozens of pots, pans, baking dishes, steps and both oven and range.

At the end when I served it, Frederick asked if it was Kraft. I could have strangled him on the spot:)

Posted by: Jack is Back! :

Jack,

Those Guitar lessons must be working. Frederick's turning into guess who?

“all i want…is mac and cheese” ― Kurt Cobain

[Jane]

Thanks Hit!

[GMax]

Yeah read that WaPo article carefully. The Freedom Caucus is going to get procedures and policies, and commitments and will ultimately vote for the Republican Speaker nominee. They may get someone in the leadership, if they want it. San Fran Nan has as much chance of winning as I do at Fan Duel...

[Jack is Back! :]

Does anyone have a candidate for the most articulate 22 y.o. athelete in the world, on top of it, BTW, outside of Jordan Speith? The guy sounds like he has been around for years including a stint as press spokesman for some POTUS. Weird.

[MarkO]

Oh, how I miss the Brady thread.

Why are the idiots attacking Carson for suggesting that, like Flt 93, the group attack the shooter?

[Beasts of England]

Given the end of the rain and our glorious Fall weather, I'm at the lake all week. That's the good news. The bad news is that I have nothing in the fridge and all this food talk is making me more hungry than usual.

I do have some lovely lamb chops, but they're in the freezer. Unfrozen peanut butter and crackers ain't gonna cut it. Guess I'm headed out to dinner...

[Jane]

I ate nothing but peanut butter for about 2 weeks before I left Sturbridge. On day one, driving in the rain, I couldn't find a knife and the jar was too low to get the remains out. I nearly starved to death. (Well not really) About 5:30 tonite I found my silverware. What a joy!

[Threadkiller]

http://m.therightscoop.com/carly-i-would-have-voted-for-sotomayor/

[Extraneus]

Traditional Italian Meat Sauce

(Gleaned from my dear departed mother and still-with-us great-cooking aunts, each of whom had vehement oppositions to each other's crazy ideas.)

1 lb country style ribs (or other meat)
1 onion, chopped
3 cloves garlic, sliced thin (like in Goodfellas)
1 carrot, chopped small
1 celery stick, sliced
2 bay leaves
1 tbsp dried oregano
1/2 tsp crushed red pepper
1 28 oz can crushed tomatoes
1 28 oz can whole tomatoes, chopped or hand-blended not too fine
2 tbsps or so fresh basil
Parmiggiano cheese for serving

Brown meat in olive oil, then remove.

Saute carrots, then garlic, then onions and celery in olive oil.

Add bay leaves, oregano, red pepper.

When all are soft, add tomatoes.

Simmer for an hour or two.

Add meat when putting on the pasta water.

Add half the basil near the end, then add the rest on the dishes before serving.

Pasta.

Parmiggiano.

[henry]

MarkO, if people attacked the shooter really bad things ensue:

a. You have individual heroes

b. You have a bad guy get beat up instead of understood

c. Nobody talks about evil guns and our need to control / confiscate them

d. First responders don't have time to get clear of the donut shop
( makes unions look bad)

e. Shemp / Brian Williams et al don't end up on TV all day

f. TOTUS collects dust

Plus a few I missed -- but this is clearly as big a disaster as locking a dude in a dress out of the girls locker room.

[Threadkiller]

As long as it identifies as a souffle, Beasts, who are we to judge?

[DrJ]

Canned tomatoes? Ugh. I realize that in most places it is necessary, but the secret to MrsJ's tomato-based sauces is that she uses only garden-grown tomatoes.

We always grow a huge excess for our summer needs, and the rest get put into ice cube trays after they have been made into sauce. So she can use tomato cubes all year, and we run out when the new crop is ripe.

It really does make a difference.

[Jeff Dobbs]

WATCH: SYRIAN WOMEN SLAM MALE MIGRANTS FOR LEAVING, ASK ‘WHO WILL PROTECT US?’

(all caps is Breitbart. Breitbart is the one yelling here)

[daddy]

Vladimir Putin spends 63rd birthday playing hockey with NHL stars against Russian officials

I'm surprised he hasn't made a Dos Equis Beer Commercial yet.

[Extraneus]

A new writer at HotAir?

KRISTINA RIBALI:

Massachusetts woman pleads guilty to $3.6 million food stamp fraud scheme

According to a press release from the Department of Justice, Causey purchased SNAP benefits from recipients at a discounted value, about fifty cents on the dollar, instead of exchanging them for food. Over a four and half year period, Causey defrauded the USDA of approximately $3,638,900 in SNAP funds in total.

So far, so good, Kristina.

[hrtshpdbox]

There are some pretty good canned Italian tomatoes. I, too, use home-grown during the season, and freeze gallon-sized ziploc bags of peeled tomatoes at season's end (no matter how much I freeze, though, I run out in a month or two).

I still like Jeb Bush to win the nomination and presidency, I think he would (or will) make a fine President. But an interesting article today in Nat Review (linked below) about Cruz, though it's still probably wishful thinking to imagine that he could beat Hillary (still, if he gets the GOP nod, I'll be doing my best to help):
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425183/ted-cruz-iowa

[daddy]

The things you learn about your spouse when you finally get the kids out of the house. In the fridge this minute:

"Mr. Q. Cumber – which its inventors believe is the first sparkling cucumber beverage."

[GMax]

HMMMM what do I think about this. No on second thought, I know what most people look like in photos of nudist camps, so NO THANK YOU FT COLLINS!!!!!!

The City of Fort Collins wants to know what you think about women going topless and whether it should be allowed in city limits.

Fort Collins City Council is considering potential changes to the current public nudity ordinance that would allow women to be topless in public after the issue was brought to their attention by a group of citizens.

On Oct. 20 the council will consider two potential updates to the ordinance that include maintaining the current policy that does not allow for women to be topless in public but adds an exception for breastfeeding mothers or allows for women to be topless in public.

Both options continue to prohibit any nudity from the waist down by any person over the age of 10. There is also an exception for medical emergencies and changing areas.

[hrtshpdbox]

That's awfully big of the Ft Collins city council to allow nudity in changing areas.

[Jack is Back! :]

I once watched a Mario Batali cooking show where he said he only uses canned tomatoes because they are just as good for heat cooking as fresh and without the labor of coring, peeling and seeding. Sounded good to me and from that pojnt on I have saved minutes if not hours of slaving over tomatoes.

I even use the chopped and diced tomatores in cans or boxes instead of hand chop-chop-chop ones. No difference. How someone after the heat and mixtures with the garlic, onions and other veggies can tell the difference I have no idea.

[Jane]

Do you add carrots to your tomatoes Dr. J?

[daddy]

Does anyone have a candidate for the most articulate 22 y.o. athelete in the world...outside of Jordan Speith?

Jordan Speith for Speaker!

20 minutes to Cubbies-Pirates 1st pitch.

[Jack is Back! :]

daddy,

Among the workout women and fitness freaks like Mrs. JiB, cucumber and mint water is the apex of nourishment. Not surprising someone has taken it seriously.

[DrJ]

Jane, only when the recipe calls for it. Not in the base sauce. Sometimes MrsJ adds them, sometimes not.

Maybe I should have added a "YMMV" to my post.

[matt]

I went back to canned San Marzanos because most of the store bought tomatoes are so tasteless and pulpy they are not worth using.

We just harvested what will probably be our last tomatoes of the season. The garden store has "winter" tomatoes, but I'm not sure what that means in yield, timing and taste.

[daddy]

I ate nothing but peanut butter for about 2 weeks before I left Sturbridge.

Jane,

Does your new Florida home have a Cracker Barrel like Sturbridge, or are you SOL?

[Miss Marple]

hrtshpdbox,

Jeb Bush is a bad candidate and would be a bad president.

I will vot or him if he wis the nominee, but without enthusiasm.

And if he is nominated, he will lose.

[Beasts of England]

Other than barbecue, the area around the lake is blessed with some incredible Mexican food, given the yuge population of workers in the chicken processing hub of the state.

Just finished some (say it with me!) guacamole and my first Bohemia, and am waiting on my black and refried bean burrito, with chihuahua cheese and sour cream. And another Bohemia, I'm sure.

Menu is in Spanish. Hopefully I didn't get the Moo Goo Gai Pan. :)

[daddy]

cucumber and mint water is the apex of nourishment.

Jack,

I thought women only wore cucumbers at nighttime. I had no idea anybody every drank the darn things.

[henry]

Daddy, the yoga / fitness nutrition rules are even crazier than the govt ones.

[Jim Eagle]

daddy,

You doin't want to know about the Green smoothie. All of the abobe plus more.

[Jim Eagle]

...above...

Time for the game. Bye.

[Dave (in MA)]

The Searchlight Pederast is sticking with his story, http://goo.gl/1XaI8S

[Jeff Dobbs]

Dave:
The Searchlight Pederast is sticking with his story

Yeah, essentially he's saying the exercise band slipped out of his hand - and only if the manufacturer had put a printed warning in the box it came in, Reid would have known to take certain precautions.

In other news, McDonalds coffee is hot!

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

It's hard to tell if that's a parody site or not; I'm still incredulous that Popeye is going forward with such a steaming pile.

[daddy]

Investors Business Daily: Iraq Gives Up On America And Asks Russia To Rescue It From IS

"We might be forced to ask Russia to launch airstrikes in Iraq soon," Hakim al-Zamili, chairman of the Iraqi parliament's defense and security committee, told Reuters. "We are seeking to see Russia have a bigger role in Iraq. . . Yes, definitely a bigger role than the Americans."

[henry]

Precautions? What would the warning be?

WARNING. Exercise band not suitable for threatening a guy who is going to beat the crap out of you.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Tammy predicts that Cruz will be the beneficiary when weaker candidates peel off. The mailman's son is polling third in Ahia.

[Jim Eagle]

Cubbirs up 1 already.

[Jim Eagle]

...cubbies....

[Dave (in MA)]

WARNING. Exercise band not suitable for threatening a guy teenager who is going to beat the crap out of you for getting too 'handsy'.

[henry]

Dave, never underestimate the value of a good editor.

[Ann]

Who is Congressman Daniel Webster? Can anyone tell us why the house should vote for him?

It's mind blowing that we don't have someone to replace Bonehead.. considering the current dire situation of our nation.

[henry]

Ann, he's from Florida, a career politician in office since 1980, Congress since 2011.

[Beasts of England]

The (alleged) pedarest is not suing for lack of consortium? Interesting...

[daddy]

3 - zip Cubs. Massive shot over the right field wall.

Anybody heard from TM yet or is he still in mourning?

[Ann]

Thanks, Henry.

Wow, a career politician. Just what we don't need!!!

What are the rules? Can we get Rudy Giuliani, Mark Levin, Andy McCarthy? We need to scare old Mitch McConnell.

[Another Bob]

matt | October 07, 2015 at 07:57 PM:

Absolutely right. Nothing better than canned San Marzanos for sauces.

And they seem to be getting cheaper - starting to see the 28oz cans for two bucks.

[peter]

Oh, how I pray that a skilled trial attorney takes the (alleged) pederast's deposition in that lawsuit. Should make for some fun reading.

[peter]

for the record, now that the Yankees have been eviscerated, I am now rooting for the Cubs!

[henry]

Ann, look at the bright side... his kid married into a family that is best buds with the Duggars, I assume that circus comes along for the ride.

[Thomas Collins]

Jeeessssuuusss, Jane. Was having buffalo wings, nachos and wine with me one day during the last two weeks of your being a Mass. resident so forgettable that all you can remember is peanut butter? :-)

[Neo]

A MATHEMATICAL discovery by Perth-based electrical engineer Dr David Evans may change everything about the climate debate, on the eve of the UN climate change conference in Paris next month.

A former climate modeller for the Government's Australian Greenhouse Office, with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.

He has found that, while the underlying physics of the model is correct, it had been applied incorrectly.

He has fixed two errors and the new corrected model finds the climate's sensitivity to carbon dioxide (CO2) is much lower than was thought.

It turns out the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has over-estimated future global warming by as much as 10 times, he says.

"Yes, CO2 has an effect, but it's about a fifth or tenth of what the IPCC says it is. CO2 is not driving the climate; it caused less than 20 per cent of the global warming in the last few decades".

LUN

[Neo]

... or you could believe the 97% of scientists

Breathalysers could be used to curb alcohol abuse among scientists at US bases in Antarctica following “unpredictable behaviour” caused by excess drinking, including fights and indecent exposure.

Officials from the National Science Foundation told an audit of healthy and safety at the two US-run bases — McMurdo Station and the South Pole — that drinking has led to “unpredictable behaviour that has led to fights, indecent exposure, and employees arriving to work under the influence”, according to a report in Wired.

The agency is reportedly considering shipping several breathalysers to the isolated stations, which together house up to about 1,150 people, including scientists and support staff.

But such a move could potentially pose legal and administrative problems, as Antarctica is not US territory and it is not clear who would conduct the tests and what rights of appeal would be available.

LUN

[daddy]

"Who is Congressman Daniel Webster? Can anyone tell us why the house should vote for him?"

Ann,

I believe I heard it discussed on Levin's Show last week. Webster has some track record in his home state of decentralizing power which some conservatives think has to happen in order to break open the GOPe power structure in the House. His supporters believe that if that does not happen, it'll simply be what we have now with a new figurehead at the top. I believe Louis Gommert called in and threw his support behind Webster for that reason.

It's mind blowing that we don't have someone to replace Bonehead.. considering the current dire situation of our nation.

That was bumming the heck out of Levin too, but he resigned himself to having to deal with the candidates that presented themselves.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Cubs fans are extremely annoying even aside from Will; kind of like Red Sox fans. There are a few good ones but the ratio isn't good.

[Ann]

Henry, Good Grief!

[buccaneer morgan]

Well that long interval of loss has made then antsy. Webster is an adequate candidate, a transitional figure.

[henry]

Neo, we know that knothead from the Sierra Club will go with the 97% because the Australian and the actual data are part of the 3%. 97 is bigger than 3. It's math!

[henry]

Ann, I made the mistake of reading the wiki page.

[I think there is something to what he's got, Don't know what yet.]

Neo, it's worth looking at lucia's Blackboard @ rankexploits.com

I put on JoNova's first thread about her husband's work that it is the water vapour feedback and the clouds, but nobody lissens. Actually, everybody knows, but the models can't be corrected else catastrophic warming drops out of the results.

David Evans math is beyond me. lucia's lukewarming chamber orchestra screeches dissonance at it.

[buccaneer morgan]

You have to look at the quality of the links, also the talk section, to see what they deleted.

[matt]

Someone put up a Ted Cruz dissection of the president of the Sierra Club on AGW on Facebook. The guy falls back on the 97% of scientists number every time.

Except then the fool mentions that the numbers are from the Union of Concerned Scientists. Remember those guys? They and the CND were at the forefront of the anti-American no nukes protests back in the 70's and 80's.

Marxists and fellow travelers all.

[maryrose]

My husband and I are for the Cubs as their draught is longer than the Indians and he once lived in Hinsdale Illinois

[It fools 97% of people when wrong, 100% when right.]

The 97% comes from tremendously corrupted research by one Lewandowsky, inspired by previous perverse research of Naomi Oreskes.

It's the Argument to Authority, fallacious when authority is wrong.

[daddy]

Here's a bit of the Levin/Louis Gommert bit from Levin's podcast of 10/2/15, starting at @ the 71 minute mark when Gommert calls in to the show:

Levin:

Gommert: Every time I've mentioned supporting Dan (Webster), I've made it clear I wish his voting record was more Conservative...

Levin: You're supporting Danial Webster to defeat McCarthy. Now Chaffetz comes in. 60 seconds remaining, what's your analysis?

Gommert: Danial Webster is the only one that will decentralize the power of the Speaker. If we can get a Speaker who will decentralize the power, exactly like Dan Webster did in Florida, as the 1st Republican Speaker of the House in Florida, then we can get power back to the Conservatives, but as long as we have somebody like the other 2 candidates, they're nice guys, but they're not going to decentralize the power. Dan will. That gives us the power back. Then we can fix things.

Levin: So you're saying that even though Dan has a more Moderate to Liberal voting record than you would like, when it comes to running the Speakership he's made clear that he will what? Spread the power into the Committees and so forth and so on, so Conservatives have more of a voice?

Gommert: You bet. And he's done it before, he did it in Florida...

Levin: Is Chaffetz a Conservative, yes or no?

Gommert:...I would like somebody who will give back the power.

Levin: Why won't Jim Jordan step up? Why won't these unequivocal Conservatives who have leadership qualities, why won't they step up?

Gommert: I can't speak for anybody else...
--------------------------------

It was frustrating to listen to, but Gommert closed hoping that enough votes would come to Webster, as a result of this McCarthy gaffe, that the decision would be denied outright to McCarthy and probably also to Chaffetz, and would then be fought over inside some Caucus Committee in future with hopes of getting Webster or some other Conservative into the position.

[maryrose]

Not really sad about the Yankees
Sorry TM

[Beasts of England]

The CAGW crowd has committed large scale fraud against the taxpayers through grants and studies. Someone such as Cruz needs to offer immunity in exchange for allocution to a few of the scientists who have a hint of honesty about them and let the floodgates open.

The worst offending individuals need to do serious jail time, and some institutions need to lose all federal funding for several years as punishment.

This bullshit is in my top three political issues and the culprits need to be stomped and stomped hard. The potential damage to our nation and its economy can't be overstated.

[Miss Marple]

daddy,

Thanks for that transcript.

The confusion of choosing a Speaker makes it hard to know who to root for.

[Stephanie]

Catching up before going to sew some outdoor cushions, but yes I once posted a pineapple au gratin recipe. It is very good. Lots of sugar and cheese.

No one was pulling your leg.

I'm drowning in Brunswick stew right now as I made a batch yesterday. Nom Nom Nom. I can post the recipe when I log back on later if anyone is interested.

[Jim Miller]

Today, I had some fun with neutrinos, in all three flavors.

I knew there were a lot of them around, but I didn't realize just how many. I think most of you will be surprised by the number, too,

I even linked to Updike's poem on them, in case anyone wants to make the needed revision.

[maryrose]

daddy
So interesting
No wonder Boehner wanted Gowdy
If Trey was running he would clear the field
I love Jordan and I like Chaffetz also
I am so glad that Cotton is holding up confirmations to punish Secret Service idiots for leaking Chaffetz 's file

[henry]

Kim, the problem is once the politicians figure out they need to flip back to cooling based on actual data and math, we know the plan is still no nukes, no coal, capitalism is evil, western wealth is stolen from brown people. They change nothing except to note (with full MSM support) that we were always at war with EastAsia.

[Beasts of England]

I want the pineapple recipe, Steph. And I'm not pulling your leg. :)

[daddy]

Maryrose,

All I know at this point is that I don't want McCarthy, because he is the gift that will keep on giving to the Dem's as long as he holds that position. On the rest I'm dealing from a position of agnosticism---I don't know enough to know who to root for.

To the dogs.

[maryrose]

Steph
I am interested in both recipes
Capt
I empathize with your mom
I am also a bad cook

[maryrose]

Beasts
How did you become such a good cook?

[Pineapple au Gratin per Stephanie.]

2 (20 oz) cans crushed pineapple.
1/2 cup granulated sugar.
1 tablespoon of corn starch.
1 & 1/2 cups of grated cheddar cheese.
1/4 cup (1/2 stick) cold butter, sliced thin.
1 & 1/2 sleeves of crushed Ritz crackers.

Preheat oven to 360. Mix juice, sugar, corn starch until syrup - add pineapple. In baking dish fruit mix crushed Ritz, butter, cheese in layers, butter last. Add last of cheese in last few minutes of baking for 20-25 minutes.

[maryrose]

Henry
Only 449 more days of that kind of regressive thinking
Then we create our own meme and fight for our freedoms
It will be a 21st century Restoration

[maryrose]

Steph
It sounds delicious and has all my favorite ingredients

[Beasts of England]

It's easy to be a good cook on the Internet, maryrose!! ;)

I was always fascinated by cooking and food and was blessed to have a Mom who is an incredible cook. I always wanted to help and she let me (sometimes!) and I learned from her, took notes, and always called when I had questions.

Cooking shows are another blessing, as are the wealth of available cookbooks and Internet sites.

[Dave (in MA)]

I ate nothing but peanut butter for about 2 weeks before I left Sturbridge.

And now you're in the land of early bird specials.

[clarice]

Re food advice--today Israeli scientists say reversing the advice that kids not eat peanuts at an early age is responsible for peanut allergies and suggest very young kids should be given peanut products early to prevent it,