The Once And Future King

Will there be a significant Obama machine that survives his none-too-soon departure from the White House, or will we have a full Clinton Restoration? Well might you ask! And the answer depends in part on whether Joe Biden is willing to be an effective stalking goat for Team Obama.

And do let me add - while there is talk of keeping Joe alive there will be hope of a real Justice Department investigation into Hillary's servers. If Joe is not running, that investigation will have nowhere to go other than ruin for the Democratic nominee.

 

Comments

[MarkO]

Joe is in.

[Old Lurker]

Source Mark?

[narciso]

the Solon, fool or knave,

https://whatyouthoughtiwentaway.wordpress.com/2015/08/25/traitor-senators-took-money-from-iran-lobby-back-iran-nukes/

[GMax]

"Nothing could be Further from the Truth"

Bombs and I mean bombs at the weekend box office. A grand total of $76K in ticket sales ( you read that correctly, in thousands not millions ). Even if you consider it was limited to NYC and LA ( which should be more lunatics per capita than elsewhere I would argue ) you still can not explain away 12K per screen for the weekend.

Pitiful. But funny as hell to me...

[MaryD]

Feel good story of the day, GMax! Thanks.

[narciso]

like I said, they should have gone with the action thriller model, like Basic or the Losers, both conspiracy tales, but laced with dark humor,

[Miss Marple 2]

Mr. McGuire gets bonus points for an Arthurian reference, which also segues into the Camelot legend.

The title is from White's book, the retelling of the Arthurian legend in prose. Disney made a movie out of part one, "The Sword in the Stone." The book had four parts, "Candle in the Wind" being one and "The Once and Future King" being the last. (I forget the other part as it has been years since I read it.)

The musical "Camelot" was based White's book, starring the notorious commie Vanessa Redgrave as Guinevere, which was the worst miscasting I ever remember. After being stiffed by Hollywood for both musical roles (Camelot and My Fair Lady) for people who couldn't sing and for the roles SHE made famous on Broadway, it's a wonder Julie Andrews didn't become an axe murderer.

[rse]

New post up http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/quoting-che-guevara-and-importing-personalizedategic-from-russia-seems-odd-for-a-cold-war-victor/

Anyone else heard the stories about how biden likes to skinny dip in the vp swimming pool and how the secret service hates being part of his detail? Since I know little gossip, I am thinking I read that here at some point.

[Dave (in MA)]

Scoop Jackson isn't coming through that door.

[Miss Marple 2]

rse,

I think that comes from a book by Ron Kessler and was quoted here.

He's pretty much a creep, but because the others are so much creepier, he will probably get the nomination.

Of course, no one mentions his stroke, just like they don't mention Hillary's. Pretty sad that Bernie Sanders looks to be healthier than those two.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://news.yahoo.com/hungary-says-migrant-influx-stops-114617312.html

[narciso]

yes, it's in ron kessler's book, I surmise, haven't really checked, because neuralizers can do damage,

[narciso]

Soltzhenitsyn was a traditionalist, russian nationalist, I don't think he saw the state in that way, if anything modern day russians have a healthier understanding of economic liberty then in this country,

[Beasts of England]

Assuming a movie ticket cost of $15 in those big cities, yields a paying audience of about 5,000 fools. Profit!!

[Miss Marple 2]

http://nypost.com/2015/10/19/meet-the-tiny-terrorist-who-hates-america-and-isis/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter&utm_medium=SocialFlow

There are midget terrorists. I hadn't considered the possibility of this.

[Marlene]

Speaking of Camelot...last night before the game,we were watching a show on Newsmax, "The Secret Scandals of JFK." Maybe it was nonsense,but inquiring minds. :)
Wow,we (the American public) got sold a load of carp,but 50 years later,I guess we know. Jackie was very clever or numb with shock when she concocted the Camelot myth.

[narciso]

early on he commits category error, personnel is policy,

Barack Obama isn’t a policy guy; he’s a personnel guy.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/425752/obama-2016-joe-biden-hillary-clinton

[MarkO]

My source? Like most everything else I put here, I made it up.

Just a guess. Well, a reasonable estimate. My expert opinion. Whatever.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The Saudis and Russians square off in the Petroleum Thunderdome.

[henry]

And from our lurking friend is a note: Rand Paul out.

[rse]

narciso-I am guessing you are talking to me. Satin is citing a 1975 book From Under the Rubble. Whether it misportrays or not, the post is about this inner development as a constant focus.

Thant book is eerie because obviously most people I hear now will not have read that book. But they are absolutely pitching what is outlined in it as SRI had to recognize because they touted it when Changing Images of Man was finally commercially published in 1982. Lots of cited people too from the World Order Models project and Margaret Mead who was always involved in all the Macy Foundation cybernetics forums.

I do know William McNeill wrote a very angry piece about Harvard's recognition of Solzhenitsen. I have never seen bo as relaxed and grinning as he was when he gave McNeill the Medal of Freedom.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

What is Biden's diversity appeal?
The first mentally retarded president?

[rse]

On Mt's cite of small towns, apparently the National Association of Counties is pushing placed-based local development using a Wealthworks framework. http://www.routefifty.com/2015/10/sustainable-growth-county-assets/122898/?oref=rf-today-nl

Interesting timing then of touting a problem in one publication and creating nostalgia when it turns out these summits are being built up at the same time as a solution.

[narciso]

I would need to see the quote,

http://citizentom.com/2012/07/16/when-harvard-rejected-the-messenger/

certainly there were some aspects of the west he didn't care for,

[Marlene]

Rand Paul was in NH over the week-end. He had a bowling event and spent some time at a gun range. Not exactly yuge crowds.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Why I resist the urge to ride anymore.

[rse]

narc-that fits with what Satin says. The co-editor of the essays is Igor Shafarevich and apart from the quote I used from the Satin book, he described in in biblio as "Political statement of the spiritual wing of the Soviet dissident movement."

In the book, Satin is saying New Age politics is most advanced in the US and then he cites examples from Britain, France, and then Solzhenitzen and that book. He amalogixes to something that may mean something to you--"consciously modeled on the old Landmarks of Berdyaev and company."

[narciso]

interesting, I'd never heard of him,

http://www.enotes.com/topics/nikolai-berdyaev

[Old Lurker]

I saw that Iggy.

I hope we get a followup on charges against that guy.

[narciso]

some perspective here,

http://www.robertlstephens.com/essays/shafarevich/001SocialistPhenomenon.html

I watched the Kennedy series before Reelz was taken off my cable, curious coincidence, and it wasn't as scandalous as they made it out to be,

Talbot, from the notes, you would be interested to know MarkO, puts some emphasis on both Cord Meyer and Angleton's 'socializing' with Mary Pinchot, which puts a non policy spin on the matter,

[Old Lurker]

Where I have seen this approach before?

Brietbart "Senate Republicans, led by Majority Leader Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY)50% , are reportedly planning legislation allowing President Barack Obama to lift the nation’s debt ceiling on his authority, according to sources on Capitol Hill. Under the potential Senate Republican plan, Congress would merely retain the right to “disapprove” of the President’s action to lift the nation’s debt limit. But disapproving the action would require a hard-to-reach two-thirds vote of both chambers of Congress."

[Appalled]

The pragmatic left smells trouble for itself:

http://www.vox.com/2015/10/19/9565119/democrats-in-deep-trouble

The fact that this is the moment the GOP finds Donald Trump and a weak Speaker to be a good idea suggests that Dem problems are not insurmountable, but it does seem like there is a contest out there for which party has lost the most contact with reality.

[henry]

OL, they'll reauthorize ExIm Bank in the same bill.

[Old Lurker]

Of course they will, Henry.

[MarkO]

I'm in Typepad Coventry.

[James D]

After being stiffed by Hollywood for both musical roles (Camelot and My Fair Lady) for people who couldn't sing and for the roles SHE made famous on Broadway, it's a wonder Julie Andrews didn't become an axe murderer.

Yeah, but she got the last laugh, at least where My Fair Lady is concerned. She won the Oscar for Mary Poppins, beating out Audrey Hepburn's performance as Eliza.

[Algonquin]

Obama will always be a bit of a "king maker"' on the sidelines.

Why?

The monolithic black vote. North Carolina is now 27.8% African American.

Now split North Carolina to the primaries--the African American vote could be close to almost 50% of the North Carolina democrat primary vote.

Obama will be influencing politics for a very long time. Just this Sunday Donna Brazile was exclaiming on national television that Michelle Obama should run for President, and she was not joking.

[narciso]

the Top Men, despise Trump, as they have Cruz and the Huntress before him, and they have proferred Michel, and Hastert and Boehner,

[Appalled]

OL:

McConnell has proposed that before.

When has the GOP gotten anything out of a debt limit fight?

[Beasts of England]

I can't believe that OL's 12:31 is real.

[Old Lurker]

I know, Appalled. The guy sure learns nothing from experience, seems to me.

[James D]

Beasts, I can absolutely believe it.

[Spinning, spinning slowly, in the wind.]

The poor fuck's seeking martyrdom and can't face it or manage it.

[Old Lurker]

We shall see. As Rush often reminds us, the best satire works when it is somewhat believable.

[narciso]

they have an appetite for self destruction,

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-19/the-candidates-with-the-most-ads-are-not-doing-well-in-the-polls

[jimmyk]

When has the GOP gotten anything out of a debt limit fight?

When have they not caved?

[henry]

Well, the dumped ExIm for a month or so.

[Old Lurker]

Here was the whole story:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/19/senate-gop-plan-surrender-debt-control-obama/

[Couldn't write very well then, though.]

n, I wrote a paper about Berdaev at school, oh, so many years ago. I reread it about ten years ago and was amazed at my ignorance, naivete, poverty of use of language, and quality of understanding.

Wish I could find it now. I got all B's in my major because I wrote all the papers from four to six in the morning and typed them from six to eight.

[narciso]

well he's not an easy read, from that little extract there, but very interesting none the less,

as opposed to the ravings of this cretinous knave,
that we're supposed to give a farthing about, whose ignorance is zaphod level,

[narciso]

this was the solon's tutor,

http://nymag.com/news/politics/69266/

and we know now, he was trying to topple Karzai at the time,

[Algonquin]

Solzhenitzyn was not a Libertarian.

The Exhausted West is well worth a reread.

[narciso]

neither was he a statist in the traditional sense,
he saw nearly as much incompetence in the Czarist
regime, re the Red Wheel, specially August 1916,
as with the Bolsheviks,

[Algonquin]

Solzhenitsyn. There's a commenter name that is flaring my dyslexia, and making me multiply the zeds.

Aaaaaargh.

[henry]

get your popcorn ready: Biden will run.

[Algonquin]

narciso

What would you say was his primary criticism of the West?

Was it materialism, lack of moral courage, Libertarianism--heck I think he even took a dig at the media in his Harvard commencement speech, IIRC.

[narciso]

probably the first two, libertarianism beyond the constraints on the primary institutions, runs afoul of human nature,

[narciso]

well this is his modus operandi,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/putin-makes-capturing-jihadi-john-a-priority-obama-would-rather-golf/

[Old Lurker]

Time for Hillary to discover a health problem and desire to raise her Grandchild. Time to trade in their MAD information for a full pardon from Obama.

Given a choice between Biden-Warren vs Clinton, Obama controls the outcome and the aftermath.

[narciso]

I know they sometimes go off the rails, but there is a great deal of truth here,

[narciso]

just a touch of vizzini,

http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/10/the-islamophobia-of-milos-zeman-again/

[Algonquin]

narciso

Thanks.

The problem with Libertarianism is it also wants to erode the moral foundation of laws--as it is practiced by current day Twitter lay abouts. They use it to also divide the party opposite till we will only have the party of Clintonistas.

Nick Gillespie of "Reason" magazine announced after the Democratic debate (via Twitter) that he found more to like in what they said.

[narciso]

yes, reason would drive DesCarte to distraction, they have their role in the coalition, but within
certain parameters,

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/oct/18/wayne-simmons-accused-fraudster-says-he-has-proof-/?dg

the rest of the story?

[JeanD]

Hey TM,

Does this mean we have ceased getting ready for Hillarity?

[GMax]

Not sure Slo Joe can beat her, but he sure can bruise her. Something tells me he wont be sick of hearing about her private server either!

[buccaneer morgan]

Atkinson follows up on the story no one important seems interested in, on full measure.

[buccaneer morgan]

Podesta, didn't he work for the solon, gets owned by rubio

[Old Lurker]

GMax, assuming Biden-Warren is what Obama wants, all he has to do is tell DoJ to do its job, quickly. That leads to multiple charges each with jail time and a serious dent in their piggy bank. Or she can go babysit Charlotte, count her millions and avoid all that nastiness.

So again, Obama is driving the bus and it will go where he wants.

[henry]

Biden, Mooch. With Biden "incapacitated" by a stroke or malignant hair plug shortly after the swearing in.

[GMax]

Pass the popcorn.

South Africa on Monday criticized a draft United Nations accord on fighting climate change as a form of "apartheid" against developing nations.

I wonder if Zero likes being called a racist?

[GMax]

Dont count out the crazy uncle just yet. You know that close to half of the Democrat Party thinks socialism as in government owning the means of production is a lovely idea that has not been tried as yet. Seriously.

The free for all will be quite entertaining...

[buccaneer morgan]

They never move on, there's another torch being carried for hiss, keeping the two minute hate alive, ht John schindlet.

[Old Lurker]

Henry, you are even sicker than I am.

[Appalled]

Just because Bill wants a Hillary Presidency to add to his own glory does not mean Obama wants Michelle to run to add to his glory. His universe allows only one God. (Hint -- it isn't Allah)

[Jack is Back!]

I want Biden to run just to hear what Trump will say about him.

Mark Simone played the Tapper interview with Hillarity in which she cackled like a ruptured hen at his questions about the emails, national security at risk, etc. The deeper and more probing his questions, like bringing up the FBI, the louder and more shrill her cackle. Mark made a good point that it sounds and acts like she is cracking under the stress.

Biden is definitely in and if not is missing his only real chance.

[Jack is Back!]

The Tapper Interview.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-hillary-clinton-laugh-through-jake-tappers-email-question/

[buccaneer morgan]

Sure why not, just expand the clown car.

[henry]

No,

[henry]

no lube for rubes. ExIm this month.

[Marlene]

Biden might also decide on another Obama favorite,Deval Patrick,to be his VP choice.

[henry]

Whoever ValJar wants, ValJar will get.

[jimmyk]

There's a commenter name that is flaring my dyslexia, and making me multiply the zeds.

Considering that it's transliterated from the Cyrillic, there's not a unique spelling, though perhaps he specified one way or the other.

[Old Lurker]

Didn't Jane move to Florida to get away from Deval Patrick?

[JeanD]

Does Biden fall within the parameters of TM's new masthead? I say yes if we simply replace "journalistic" with "governmental."

[rse]

Continuing my belief that what gets hyped in the msm is usually for a reason. This came out today from the Center for Law and Social Policy. http://www.clasp.org/issues/youth/pages/back-to-school-understanding-the-landscape-of-rural-dropout-recovery

It attributes the high rural dropout rate to rural poverty; ergo, we need to do something about.

I will let everyone fill in that blank.

[Jane]

Didn't Jane move to Florida to get away from Deval Patrick?

Oh dear. Was that the reason?

A democrat is not going to win this election.

[clarice]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/19/clock-kid-ahmed-mohamed-wont-be-bringing-his-clock-to-the-white-house-after-all/

Obama won't meet with him either--as I predicted. The wh and press was HAD.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Where I have seen this approach before?--

Seems to me the GOPe would prefer Congress to be the one holding veto power.
The president is authorized to do pretty much whatever he wants unless congress intervenes with a supermajority and says "no" in which case Barry will do what he was going to in the first place unless congress impeaches him which they won't.
Not quite JATFI.

[Old Lurker]

I give up.

JATFI?

[henry]

just as the founders intended.

[Old Lurker]

Thanks.

[henry]

SMOD sending a Halloween visitor. "erratic orbit" but NASA not worried.

[Jack is Back!]

Ahmed and The Clock are meeting with Omar el-Bashir in The Sudan where he has a ICC indictment hanging over his head.

I hear Comedy Central is covering it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Libertarianism works fine with a society based on Judeo-Christian values and morals and the country bequeathed to us was in many ways a libertarian one.
Certainly the state's interference in the average American's life was less than most libertarians now advocate for prior to 1917 or so.
Economic libertarianism is still possible but in the social arena it too much resembles libertinism because public morals no longer exist or have been turned on their head.

John Adams;
“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

George Washington;
"Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle."

[Jack is Back!]

The schadenfreud here between Jay Carney at Amazon repsonding to a New York Times indictment of his new digs is beyond yummy. It calls for seconds.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3279586/Amazon-hits-blistering-New-York-Times-report-damning-blog-post-accusing.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Did I read that Clock Boy's crazy daddy ran against the Sudanese war criminal for pres of Sudan?

[glasater]

The fight between the Obamas and Clintons may be something to behold.

[buccaneer morgan]

Yes he was passed for moderate over there.

[Jack is Back!]

Iggy,

Yes he did, on the Strawman Party ticket.

[buccaneer morgan]

Game of thrones sans dragons.