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November 07, 2015

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Threadkiller

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henry

Good grief. "Cheaper plans with less waste"? Like mandatory transgender surgery coverage? This was designed to force all corporate plans to close -- getting the corp penalty for not providing a plan to subsidize single payer (as the only remaining insurer). Sadly, McConnell and the Chamber of Commerce seem set on keeping this crap.

Jeff Dobbs

TM:
Hmm, will he blame the obstructionist Koch brothers, Bush, Romney, Trump, or generic crazy right wing ideologues?

With the two minute hate going on, Dr. Carson should probably be in the mix. He probably performed a bunch of unnecessary surgeries that insurance was forced to cover or something.

Buckeye

From previous thread....

Gee MM,

Hope I don't end up with some pansy assed journalists outside my door wanting to kick my butt.

Now that I think about it, hope I do.

Jack is Back!

I hope Cavuto is lurking and taking notes for the debate. Great question in there for some national exposure. We need more manhole removals to let the stink eminate more fully in the LIV neighborhoods.

Buckeye

We need to list the top 10 questions we would like to see Cavuto ask on Tuesday and then send them in an email to him.

Never hurts to try.

Consistent with the theme of this thread, I woul offer:

1) What would your replacement for Obamacare look like? What would be the key provisions be?

Neo

Replace it with a 2% wealth tax on total assets above $50 million.

Betcha Soros complains about this.

Buckeye

Beasts

While I hope Bama wins, I would like to see Fournette and Joey Bosa match up.

henry

In the end it don't mend it department, the GAB delende est. At 2:00 am or so this morning. The link gives the play by play of the final sausage making of the GAB and Campaign Finance Reform bills passed this morning. (But if you read the link Monday, you may have to scroll a bit to find it).

Neo

Question for Cavuto:

What kind of wall lamps should Chelsea have ?

henry

San Quentin standard issue.

Buckeye

"What kind of wall lamps should Chelsea have ?"

Any that don't work. Nobody wants to look at that hot mess.

pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

Put it on the last thread but it should be here under the End It side.

http://100percentfedup.com/why-isnt-this-in-the-news-how-many-ca-university-football-players-does-it-take-to-beat-a-man-defending-his-girlfriend-into-a-brain-damaged-state-video/#

pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

If you look at memeorandum this morning it is possible that they may have more stories complaining about Dr. Carson than they have put up on President Obama in the past ten years

Threadkiller

How many birthright allegiances are too many birthright allegiances for The Commander in Chief of The United States Armed Forces?

Miss Marple 2

It goes without saying that they did not ccover Obama with this degree of scrutiny.

What's amazing is that they are deliberately ignoring Hillary's bald-faced and DOCUMENTED lies while going after Carson.

It is not only extreme media bias, but it demonstrates actual racism, and not the lame playing of the race card but REAL racism.

Threadkiller

The Obama Foundation is looking for people to share stories about Obama's life story. They want photos and artifacts that will help tell the story about his life for their museum and presidential center. You know what to send them! What an opportunity to besiege them with the truth about this fraud in the white house. Question: Will the CIA contribute and fill in the blanks? 

Exact text via Obama Foundation:


Help tell President Obama’s story 

Over the next few years, the Foundation will collect and catalog artifacts that memorialize President Obama's historic campaigns and presidency. Some of these items will be included in exhibitions that can be viewed by all at the Presidential Museum and online. 

If you have a photo, story, or physical object you'd like to donate to the Museum, please use the form below to submit your artifact for consideration. [.] Obama Foundation.


Submit Obama artifacts here:
http://act.barackobamafoundation.org/page/s/submit-an-artifact
http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/11/shock-barack-obama-foundation-seeks.html?m=1

His own foundation has no idea who he is.

The Infamous Ignatz

Anyone else find O'Reilly's excuse for not asking primary, eye witness sources for info for his book peculiar in the extreme?
'They might be pro or con Reagan and therefore spin their answers.'
Well duh. Historians sift through it to try and find the closest version of actual events. That is far preferable to just making shit up, stupid.

His theory would sure streamline the justice system though;
"this court rules we don't need any witnesses and we'll render our decision, uh, now, based on what we imagine happened."
OK, bad example, because that is what a lot of courts do, but you get the point.

Buckeye

Perhaps one of Zero's runnin' buddies still has his favorite crack pipe they can donate.

Threadkiller

Larry Sinclair has a mouthful of stuff to donate.

The Infamous Ignatz

On the topic of the thread, it is about the only thing Barrycare got right and then only half right.
Repeal the rest of the teetering wreck of Barrycare if it hasn't collapsed beforehand and then eliminate deductability on all health insurance.
Presto; far fewer employer based plans and consumers are forced into the market place to purchase that which best suits their needs absent government distortions.

Jack is Back!

TK,

Will you share with us any stories or artifacts from Obama's life that you send into the foundation? I know you have the Khalidi tape and don't deny it. Also, his Indonesian passport, Kenyan birth certificate and his membership card in the Al-Asqa mosque in Honolulu.

Don't hold anything back:)

Rick Ballard

From the Hill piece:

Behind the scenes, Republican leaders are also feeling pressure to repeal the tax — or at least not to stand in the Democrats’ way, Leibfried said. He said lobbyists for the AFL-CIO have been working closely with some of the country’s biggest employers, who are also “working the Republican side vigorously.”

I'd like to see an outline of the thinking which would cause the GOP to believe there is any gain to be had from a partial repeal of the ACA Fascist Albatross. I can understand the Fascist position, they're wearing the Black Albatoss and feel the weight, let alone the stink, of the ACA Albatross may be insupportable.

I just don't see any benefit to the GOP to be derived from relieving the Fascists of any of the weight and stink of their decisions.

Threadkiller

The Blagojevich tapes might be a nice artifact.

FTL

EMTALA is the elephant in the room. That direct, legislatively mandated denial of reality forces the cost shifting that guarantees a broken marketplace for healthcare delivery.

Nothing can be fixed so long as EMTALA is the law of the land.

http://dilbert.com/strip/1995-10-31

The Infamous Ignatz

Well, if you're going to go there, FTL, Medicare is the original, unconstitutional sin, since it is the method by which EMTALA is enforced.

boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys

Is the purpose of the Cadillac tax to raise revenue or to eliminate high-priced plans? In the real world you can't have it both ways, as no high-priced plans means no revenue. In the phony world used to sell Obamacare, the non-existent future revenue attributed to the Cadillac tax on the plans the tax is supposed to eliminate allowed them to claim future "cost savings" to "balance" the predicted cost of Obamacare's "free" "healthcare". Of course the "healthcare" is neither "healthcare" nor is it "free" and the predicted cost was way low, but hey if you're going to just flat-out lie might as well go all in.

The Infamous Ignatz

The week in pictures, Jeb can't do it edition.
The first one is hysterical.

GUS

The mother fokking Marxists will happily repeal piece after piece of Ofukwadcare, until, you and I and everyone who didn't vote for it, are the only ones required to buy it.

peter

sorry but being in the naughty bin has turned me predominantly into a lurker, but some great posts recently. Donated to the Carson campaign as my little way of protesting the hatchet job being done on him.

peter

I also think that O'Reilly had about as much to do with writing his books as Obama had to do with Dreams from my Father or Audacity of Hope.

Threadkiller

Apparently the Obama Library will be built out of composite material.

Miss Marple 2

TK,

I first read that as "compost material."

Which actually also fits!

FTL

Ignatz,

You are absolutely right on all counts, but all the New Deal crap was sold as insurance, and expenditures of the wealth transfer welfare program that it inevitably became can be accounted for.

There cannot be any such accounting of the costs of EMTALA.

The sad reality is that EMTALA is as much a political third rail as the New Deal programs. The only hope is to be ready to direct our Reign of Terror in a favorable direction when it comes.

jimmyk on iPad

You sure that isn't compost material,TK?

Has anyone bothered fact-checking BOR's other crap books? Maybe if they had, he wouldn't have been able to publish this one.

The Infamous Ignatz

A good reason why the Iran deal didn't need to be submitted to congress;

What is mistakenly perceived as an agreement under the title of “Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action” (JCPOA), that was concluded on July 14 in Vienna, and celebrated by the White House as an “historic agreement,” is neither a contract nor even a real agreement between Iran and the P5+1. It is a set of understandings and disputes compiled into a single document.

The Senate doesn't get to vote on the opposite of treaties.

jimmyk on iPad

I swear I didn't see MM's post before putting up mine.

Neo

For example, the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action) states that in the event of Iranian violations, sanctions will be re-imposed (snapback). However, the Iranian position, which rejects all sanctions, is incorporated in the same document. In outlining the snapback of the sanctions, Article 37 also stipulates: “Iran has stated that if sanctions are reinstated in whole or in part, Iran will treat that as grounds to cease performing its commitments under this JCPOA in whole or in part.” This is not merely an Iranian reservation expressed outside of the negotiating room. It is incorporated into the text of this selfsame document – and one that completely contradicts preceding provisions that stipulate otherwise. Since the parties were unable to arrive at an understanding on this issue in two entire years of negotiations, they decided to resolve this major issue by incorporating this disagreement into the document itself.

Threadkiller

I hear the Whitehouse Xerox Multitask Workcenter has a composting feature, MM and JimmyK.

It will be in the "This Room Under Fabrication" wing.

clarice

Iggy--plus the Iranians have never agreed to it.

jimmyk, I'm waiting for BOR's book on economics, esp the economics of the energy business on which he's wasted so much air time on idiocy.

The Infamous Ignatz

WSJ;
Ben Carson’s Past Faces Deeper Questions

The day after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was killed in 1968, Ben Carson’s black classmates unleashed their anger and grief on white students who were a minority at Detroit’s Southwestern High.

Mr. Carson, then a junior with a key to a biology lab where he worked part time, told The Wall Street Journal last month that he protected a few white students from the attacks by hiding them there.

It is a dramatic account of courage and kindness, and it couldn’t be confirmed in interviews with a half-dozen of Mr. Carson’s classmates and his high school physics teacher. The students all remembered the riot. None recalled hearing about white students hiding in the biology lab, and Mr. Carson couldn’t remember any names of those he sheltered.

“It may have happened, but I didn’t see it myself or hear about it,” said Gregory Vartanian, a white classmate of Mr. Carson’s who served in the ROTC with Mr. Carson and is now a retired U.S. Marshal.


Journalism at its finest; some small event didn't happen 40 years ago because a half dozen people who may never have known anything about it then don't know anything about now. Carson says he hid some kids in the biology lab and the WSJ says his physics teacher doesn't remember it happening.
Being a black conservative means always having to say you're sorry...for bad things you didn't do and good things you did.

sbw

Yer on a roll, TK. Funny.

The Infamous Ignatz

Actually in Carson's case he also has to say he's sorry for bad things he actually did do but the left won't believe in order to call him a liar.

Jack is Back!

In re: EMTALA, our little hospital, the only one on the South Fork of the East End of Long Island, serving the Hamptons, incurred a loss of $14 million back in 2003-2004 due to the high influx of illegals, especially illegals having babies. It seems to have abated over time since it appears a great majority of the illegals have gone home or onto other venues. We can only absorb so much landscape and menial construction labor. The gangs of men looking for work lining North Sea Road coming into the village has thinned considerably.

But that expense back in 2003 crippled the hospital and its service structure to the paying customer severely.

clarice

http://www.michellesmirror.com/2015/11/keystone-pipeline-quiz.html#.Vj46K4QmX6x

The Infamous Ignatz

Shocking headline news;
Medicaid expansion breaking the backs of state budgets.

Supplementary sidebar headline; Feds bribe states with free money that has a string to keep pulling it a little further out of reach each year.

Below the fold;
Dog bites man.
Man puts bite on Medicaid.

The Infamous Ignatz

-- The gangs of men looking for work lining North Sea Road coming into the village has thinned considerably.--

They're all on disability and Barry's relaxed welfare now.

GMax

Politico ( Democrats for Democrats ) getting set on fire in the media? Anyone got any kerosene to offer up?

"Not accurate in Politico story: Carson claimed to have applied to West Point," CNNMoney's Dylan Byers noted on social media.

Byers, formerly of Politico, took it a step further by suggesting in an article that, "What initially looked like a disaster for Ben Carson could now be a major black eye for Politico."

GMax

And this from Prof Jacobsen at Legal Insurrection:

Politico set out to damage Ben Carson's credibility, but ended up damaging its own.

There is more and it could not happen to a finer group...

narciso

Well there was the Kennedy book where he shoe horned himself into the final moments of George mohrenschildt, a Russian exile man of mystery.

Miss Marple 2

I think O'Reilly should write "Killing Mohammed."

That should fix several things.

narciso

Dugard is probably the one who does all the research, fwiw. Come on do you Mr. Looking out for you come up with any original thought.

Coverage is abysmal of the cyber lynching with Carlos slim and Rupert ordering extra rope. And don't even get me start on erakat whitewashing the knife intifadeh

narciso

Well there's an interesting take relating to that, one of the seeds of Moslem animus, allegedly.

boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys

I went over to Powerline and read Mirengoff's piling on Carson and then doubling down on the smear in his "correction." I also waded into the comments, where several commenters are firmly convinced that Carson "lied". I am stunned, and thoroughly disgusted. These people either lack basic reading comprehension skills or are (more likely) purely agenda-driven. I am a little shocked that the other Powerline guys haven't called out Mirengoff.

Also saw a comment by "Terry Gain." She remains on the side of the angels. I wonder why she doesn't comment here anymore.

Jack is Back!

Sorry if this has been linked before but BOR gets more than a frisking from George Will on his Reagan book.

The word eviscerate comes to mind:)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bill-oreilly-slanders-ronald-reagan/2015/11/05/d11300d6-83e3-11e5-9afb-0c971f713d0c_story.html?postshare=5831446920010871

peter

How about we make Presidential libraries non-tax exempt and limit the budget of the Office of the First Lady to what a staff sergeant in the Marine Corps gets to spend? Just a couple of proposals.

Miss Marple 2

peter,

I think all non-profits should be required to publish donor lists just like the political parties do.

We really have no idea whether or not the environmental groups are funded by the Saudis or the Russians.

Donald

I commented first. I was not kinf to Mirengoff and Hinderaker.

daddy

Piers Morgan
Ben Carson's never going near my brain.

Stephen Miller ‏@redsteeze

Of course he isn't. He's a neurosurgeon, not a proctologist

Ha! Nice to wake up to that, Miss Marple.

Hi MarkO,

How's Dook doing so far against my TarHeels?

:)

Jane

Apparently Walker, Bush and Rubio are getting together before Tuesday's debate.

Any thoughts on why?

sbw

daddy, now that my daughter has moved to Chapel Hill I guess they are our TarHeels, too. Liked the panoramic scene shot from the Topo.

Miss Marple 2

Jane,

All sorts of possibilities. Walker maybe trying to broker peace between the other two, offers of VP for Walker or Rubio from Bush (as if), money changing hands, etc.

Who knows?

Thomas Collins

Jebster and Walker announcing their support for Rubio?

Marlene

Just back from some retail therapy and our Canadian friends are shopping by the busload. I started thinking while driving home,why don't Americans have the Brit/Canadian tradition of wearing a poppy during the month of November as remembrance?
I suppose I could look it up,but I know JOM has an answer for every question! :)

Threadkiller

Walker is selling Wisconsin to the highest bidder?

Jack is Back!

marlene,

Our Remembrance day is Memorial Day. We sell poppies during that time period. We celebrate Veteran's Day the same time the Commonwealth celebrates Armistice Day or Remembrance Day.

The 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month.

Buckeye

daddy

Dook getting spanked, no worries.

daddy

59 to 17 TarHeels over Duke in the 3rd Quarter.

How the heck did my TarHeels screw up and let Dook score 17 points? Grrrrrrr.

Jack is Back!

Duke is still in shock over the end of the Miami game.

Gators looking like they used to look under Muschamp. Talk about snake bit. Vandy up 7-6. Vandy!

What time and channel is the LSU v. Bama game?

Buckeye

8 cbs

daddy

For those of you bored watching Dook getting the thrashing they so richly deserve, (66 - 24) I offer you (via the ADN) this 1957 video on How to Drive on Snow and Ice

(It's from Burlington Vermont and I think that's Marlene on the skis in the first scene. BTW, is it only me or does anyone else think the thrilling opening music rivals anything DrJ has linked this past week:)

Anyhow, what with Momma sunbathing down in Pasadena with Zobob, I must now practice these 1957 techniques and take the mutts out for the rare morning dog walk. Cheerio.

DrJ

Careful daddy, or I'll pull out the Wagner.

Jack is Back!

daddy,

Has Zobob met Dr. Sheldon Cooper yet? If she has, can you ask her to get his autograph for Frederick?

Jack is Back!

Hard to believe that a program like Florida, ranked No. 11 and a legacy of dominant football and guys in the NFL, etc. has a kicker who is only 50% on FG's. Even though he just kicked them into the lead 9-7, they missed a PAT with a walk-on kicker.

How can a program this big not have at least 3 proven kickers on the roster especially when they have a top soccer program?

Jack is Back!

Nice Dodge, daddy.

Jack is Back!

David French at NRO gets it right. But it should have never come to this except for the idiotic magnetism of the media and its quest for the next Watergate, including the conservative media.

Powerline can go f**k itself BTW. I will never go there or even believe anything those assholes have to say.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/426728/ben-carson-liberal-media-victim

clarice

Well, Powerline was wrong, but I'll give them this pass. So were a number of other conservatives and they get one free pass, too. But no more.

Jack is Back!

Oh, goodie. Gators now get to play either LSU or Bama for the SEC championship or even Ole Miss still has a chance but not much.

sbw

JiB: Has Zobob met Dr. Sheldon Cooper yet?

Jack, Wendy and I saw Sheldon Cooper in An Act of God. Great fun.

Others are in the starring role out west now. I’d take Frederick to see it for its reverent irreverence. It considers what religion offers, how it has been misused, and how it is best used.

glasater

I really don't know how we as a country can even begin to get back to some kind of reasonable thinking on healthcare/health insurance. It just seems to me a totally impossibly discouraging task. And impossible to teach LIV's and young people that Obamacare is slavery. Dr Ben Carson is correct to say that very thing.

Janet

Powerline has 4 guys that write there. It's a good blog that covers many topics.
Here was one from John Hinderaker early on - http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/big-ben-strikes.php

Jack is Back!

clarice,

Disagree about 2nd chances. the right thinking pundits, blogs and press need to be more circumspect when it comes to shit published by the enemy, don't you think. I thought we had been through this before. Do I have to bring up Libby to you of all people:)

clarice

You certainly don't , JIB, but I think most of those were in the category of white toga-ists. These are folks who seem to have forgotten in the past couple of years how corrupt the media is --We're heading into the election period and from now on I'm naming and shaming.

MarkO

daddy? Is it basketball season yet?

Obama is trying to kill me.

Jack is Back!

clarice,

Well at least the mild mannered doctor from the mean streets of Detroit is willing to fight back and do it with a bite instead of some kind of rhetorical trickery. What I want know is for the right to finally figure out that Trump is their worst enemy, a wolf in sheep's wool, and take this asshole down before its too late.

Everyone is worried that elevates JEB! It doesn't. Sort of like the same reason no one criticizes Islam because they don't want to have their home firebombed.

maryrose

Repubs fighting back is encouraging
The media and Dems cannot be allowed to pick our candidate

Buckeye

JiB

You are right, Clemson does not look like a #1.

First time I have watched them this year.

MaryD

Seems to me that Miringoff is the odd man out at Powerline. I usually skip over his stuff in deference to my cardiac health.

Just got a good email from the Good Doctor. He's sending a petition to CNN, so I signed it and made another contribution.

Jack is Back!

Bearcats tie it up in Houston. 14-14. Gunnar Kiel is going to the NFL with an arm like that.

The Infamous Ignatz

Mirengoff was wrong and he asserted his opinion as fact. When apprised of this, instead of apologizing or backing down he doubled down.

Making your stand on a hill of semantic uncertainty is abysmally stupid. Worse, if your stand smears the character of a guy who did nothing wrong you've besmirched your own, especially if your "update" refuses to admit error.

Jack is Back!

buckeye,

I have always had a problem with a team who has a running QB and they make it into the top 3. I just don't think in today's football analysis and play defense those guys can survive a good defensive coordinator's fix. Those guys the DC's live for you to give them something to solve.

MaryD

Iggy @ 4:51 -- Hear, hear!

James D.

Clarify @ 4:19

I'm with you. I'm not interested in giving second chances or benefits of the doubt to anyone who gave the Politico slander a microsecond of credibility or criticized Carson over it.

Any thinking person looking at what Carson wrote would immediately understand exactly what he meant. To view it any differently you have to deliberately leave honesty and common sense in the rear view mirror and I have zero regard for anybody who did it.

And that absolutely includes the jackasses at Powerline.

Miss Marple 2

I find it reprehensible that any conservative would participate in this type of character assassination simply to advance his/her own candidate or to prove a point about "outsiders."

It is, first of all, morally wrong and reveals bad character on their part.

Secondly, this type of action causes further fracturing in the party.

I want nothing to do with people who are involved in this, and that includes Powerline, Trump, and anyone else involved in this, including the bozos I heard on Fox about half an hour ago saying that "we should expect this because he hasn't been vetted before and that this is the danger of an outsider without political experience." Looking at YOU, John Sununu plus assorted suck-ups to the GOPe on Fox!

I am serious. Hillary gets a pass on lies, illegal handling of secure data, Benghazi, her attacks on women in defense of serial rapist Bill, incompetence, and her health.

Ben Carson's admirable life is being trashed to defend arch-criminal Hillary, and GOP candidates and their supporters are chiming in.

To heck with that! It's disgusting. I am THIS CLOSE to removing my registration as a Republican, except I want the chance to vote in May.

The Infamous Ignatz

I still believe there is close to zero chance Trump or Carson will be the nominee.
Probably Cruz or Rubio.

pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

This may help "end it" !


Obamacare Heading for Life Support
Humana drops 100,000 patients, citing unexpectedly higher costs.

Probably under estimated how many sex changes they would have to pay for.

Janet

Well, I like Powerline.
John Hinderaker, Scott Johnson, & Steven Hayward are great.
Paul Mirengoff has always been the writer I like the least but it seems odd to trash the whole site because of one writer.

Miss Marple 2

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/11/07/record-siberian-snow-could-bode-ill-northeast/75224060/

Jack is Back!

janet,

Have Hinderaker, Johnson or Hayward come out to defend Carson? Until then, they are another bought site for me.

GMax

Hinderaker & Johnson are Minnesota residents. Hayward is an Ahian, who managed to pull off some visiting prof gigs at Colorado and Pepperdine ( room with a view!). Mirengoff is a DC resident. With apologies to our own DC residents, I would hazard that has something to do with this. He is not alone in being taken in by Politico lying about conceeding a fabrication, see also StayPuff. The doubling down on stupid, is quite disappointing however...

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