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November 07, 2015

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narciso

yes, trump has behaved like a jackalope, so have not a few of his followers at the treehouse, Stay puft, still has learned nothing from his bridge experience,

Janet

they are another bought site for me.

That is ridiculous.

clarice

Next time anyone on the right falls for such bunkum, pls let me know. I'm loading my pistolas.

narciso

gatling gun, clarice, you have to empty all the barrels,

narciso

yes it's tasteless, but playing the grievance card really hasn't worked has it,


http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/11/07/russia-condemns-charlie-hebdo-for-sinai-plane-crash-cartoons/

narciso

I know there has been one party who has been most agregious in these matters,


http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/07/dr-ben-carsons-john-paul-jones-moment-theres-no-give/

Jack is Back!

BTW, if I was a person seriously thinking about running a few months back I woiuld have found a way to buy some of these so called conservative social media sites like Powerline. It doesn't take much. And I am always supspicious of these sites no matter how they cover events.

I truly believe most are paid for.

Jane

You guys need to relax (no offense intended). They thought Carson was a liar and they have no room for liars. I don't either. If the allegations were proven true I would have been mad as hell at Carson.

The only one I've met is Scott Johnson and he is a great guy, with a great wife and daughter. Hopefully they will grovel enough to win back your support.

henry

JiB, with the amount of AdBlock deployed... Ads aren't paying the cloud rent for these sites anymore.

In other news our universe is colliding with the bearded Spock one. Well, the Caltech guy called it "an alternative universe" but it is colliding with ours.

narciso

this is about the sum of it,

http://theothermccain.com/2015/11/06/powerline-laid-out-on-fainting-couch-over-ben-carson-usma-story-and-small-arachnid-but-mostly-ben-carson/

and why did they think that, because they took the journolist seriously again!!

narciso

the proof of that claim, seems sketchy, how would that prove an alternate universe, that we're in by the way,

jimmyk

This Carson thing is not just an attack on one person, I am sure it is intended to set the Republicans against each other. Any "conservative" who piles on is just doing the bidding of the left-wing MSM. To repeat what I said yesterday, the last debate when Rs mostly stuck together and attacked the moderators ought to have been the model, and here we are a couple of weeks later and suddenly they've forgotten. Have any of the candidates defended Carson and attacked the media over this?

Jack is Back!

janet,

Believe what you want but it is the in the universe of the possible and social media is such that it is ripe for corruption even on our side. Do you really think that is not a strategy for the political consultant class? If I was one of those cretins, capturing certain conservative opinion sites would be high on my list.

Rick Ballard

"Ads aren't paying the cloud rent for these sites anymore."

Yep. Toss in the absolute fact that very few sites are any better than the MFM at generating content that anyone would actually pay for and the lunges at clickbait crap are very understandable. Inexcusable but understandable.

narciso

We've seen it as far back as Clarence Thomas, well the wolf pack on Quayle, preceded that slightly,
but the former was certain an accomplished man of character, so he had to be destroyed, or seriously
savaged, at the least,

jimmyk

Incidentally, that Hot Air piece that narc linked took me to this:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/11/07/so-we-should-probably-talk-about-that-colorado-sexting-ring-scandal/

I basically agree with the writer, who among other things didn't like the idea of the Feds getting involved with child porn charges. I also liked the comments, especially this one:

But we should still move forward on coed bathrooms and locker rooms….because of course, teenagers don’t do creepy things.
GMax

Well there is a primary going on, and perhaps Mirengoff has a favorite and his name is not Dr Ben Carson? That would be more likely to me than a practicing attorney being bought. He saw a chance to eliminate a competitor and wanted the story to be true.

narciso

wrong way norris is still doing his thing,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/report-obama-to-announce-plan-to-close-gitmo-next-week/

Jack is Back!

Gmax,

Still corruption in my opinion.

Janet

American Elephant
‏@AmericnElephant

So, Ben Carson is now the first black presidential candidate in history to have his college records investigated by media.

Janet

Powerline is not corrupt.

Being mad at Paul is no reason to trash the whole site with speculation about them being bought.

narciso

well I would say terminally naive, although the number of times they fall for it, suggests something else,

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11981239/Russian-plane-crash-sharm-el-sheikh-stranded-British-tourists-missile-latest-updates.html

narciso

the question is moot,

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2015/11/battle-axe-pote.html

peter

Janet @ 6:09 amen.

narciso

the hot air released there, raised the temperature a degree,

http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/11/07/five-things-obama-got-wrong-in-his-keystone-xl-speech/

Captain Hate on the iPad

Tammy Bruce still hasn't owned up that she bought into the lies about Carson way too easily. That doesn't mean that I'll start trashing her but an admission of fallibility would be refreshingly welcome.

narciso

they said it couldn't be done,


http://www.weaselzippers.us/238872-governor-elect-matt-bevin-to-use-executive-order-and-remove-all-clerks-names-from-kentucky-marriage-licenses/

maryrose

Jimmyk
I posted last night that Jeb Bush and Ted Cruz both said the Politico story was wrong and supported Ben Carson

maryrose

Clemson hanging tough
Great game!

maryrose

TCU
Taking it on the chin
14 minutes to make a comeback

Miss Marple

I don't think sites are necessarily intentionally corrupt, but the temptation to use bad press to discredit a candidate who is ahead of your preferred candidate is very strong, particularly if you are in DC.

People can make mistakes, or jump the gun on a story such as this. But doubling down is another matter.

My opinion remains the same. Unless I see retractions and apologies pretty quick, I am done with any conservative who pushed this story.

Jack is Back!

MM,

I agree but I think it goes further in a lot of cases. To think that these frequently visited opinon sites for conservative views during a POTUS election campaign with 16 different candidates are not ripe for a little paid fovoratism is naive. How many have tip jars and what are those tips? Come on lets have full disclosure.

I am not convinced.

Miss Marple

Jack,

I am probably naive. Look how my husband took me for a sucker.

I just am reluctant to cast aspersions without proof.

Of course, I note those sites are NOT reluctant to do same.

narciso

we know there's the journolist, they keep denying it, we know on the center right side, there was something called the 'grapevine' as it was called in Malay, that targeted opposition leader, Anwar Ibrahim, and we know some of the people involved in that instance,

pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

No Keystone:?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-07/another-buffett-owned-oil-tanker-train-derails-wisconsin-one-day-after-obama-kills-k

Jack is Back!

To think that that the "right" side of political discourse and presentation in social media is somehow beyond any corrupting influence is so naive I have to laugh out loud. Be careful out there in this particular universe and expect what you hear and see, even on cruises, may not be the truth or even close to it.

I suspect all opinions until verified. You all should do the same no matter what you think of the personality.

narciso

why that hypothetical o'reilly project would be tricky,

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/mo-death.htm

Threadkiller

Next time anyone on the right falls for such bunkum, pls let me know. I'm loading my pistolas.

Why? You missed the last time they fell...


BIRTHERISM,” RIP

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/04/028909.php

;-)

narciso

not even close, tk

http://centrisity.blogspot.com/2008/08/powerline-disses-palin.html

narciso

just call them malajusted juveniles, next time,

http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2015/11/plo-slams-ted-cruz-for-calling-it.html

clarice

I agree with Janet. I know of no blogger who's ever made money on his website. In fact, the only one I know who's made money off blogging is Huffington who scammed AOL and the folks who contributed the copy.

Lots of people can write well..you need a day job or something to stay alived at it.

caro

I'm with Janet and Jane. I read Powerline all the time and if they are backing a candidate, I can't tell you which one. I actually commented to Scott Johnson in person about thinking Paul was off the mark a lot. Variety is the spice in some cases. GMax is right. Paul M. does have the DC law firm influence, though I think he is retired now.

Stolen valor is a real hot button, as it should be. I hope PM apologizes.

Beasts of England

Why would PowerLine deserve our courtesy or benefit of the doubt when they didn't grant the same for Carson?

I've read their site as long as I've read any on the web and have always appreciated their insight and intellect, but they've seriously compromised themselves here. And considering the extraordinary significance of this election - perhaps as important as any in our history - it's an awful own goal.

Jane

Hey! It's Caro! Yay!

narciso

layers of editors,

http://twitchy.com/2015/11/07/heroine-epidemic-uncovered-by-north-carolina-newspaper/

Jack is Back!

clarice,
Thanks for that clariication because not having to tip those jars wiill save me money to send to Ben and Carly and Ted.

I still say they are ripe for being bought by the system during a contest.

narciso

ah, I didn't know this,

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/06/incoming-kentucky-gov-matt-bevin-tells-epa-to-pound-sand/

MaryD

I'll repeat my earlier contention that Miringoff is an outlier on this site. It seems that a lot of the commenters there agree with me. I maintain that the other three are very good.

Beasts of England

p.s. Sooooooie Pig!!!

Jack is Back!

BTW, to make a point.

I am watching Navy paly Memphis and to think that those midshipmen are not on a scholarship corrupts our language, vocabulary and rhetoric. It is nothing less or more than that. Regardless of the nuance of appointment they are on a scholarship. If not, then, please some one give me the alternative vernacular./

And I thought the one thing journalism majors would be expert in would be the proper use of language.

Buckeye

"And I thought the one thing journalism majors would be expert in would be the proper use of language."

Now the emphasis is on "becoming part of the story"

Stephanie

Ick. I've got a fall cold and I feel like caRp. I've snoozed through most of the games today when I haven't had THOR putting his hammer down. Yikes! I'd forgotten how much stuff puppies can get into.

clarice

Look ay yhe bright side--Politico has shot it's wad. Anything else they publish about the candidates will be automatically suspect.

henry

No, full volume on alphabet networks for LIVs... The retractions will be small print updates to stories on websites a week later.

MaryD

Good way to look at this fiasco, Clarice. From your lips to God's ears.

narciso

one would have thought after the journolist was discovered, but that was five years ago,

jimmyk

Thanks, maryrose @6:37, I remember now reading that Jeb had supported Carson, glad to hear Cruz did as well (and as I predicted :)). Not to pull together for Carson and attack the media is such a basic error that it's hard to forgive anyone who makes it.

Destiny Ignatz

I believe a good plastic surgeon could make quick work of that turkey neck, jimmy. :)

clarice

exactly so, jimmyk. And if you are waiting to get more information say,I consider him a thoroughly honest and sincere man and I am waiting for more information before commenting further." See how easy this could be?

narciso

I contend she was one of the four horseman along with donahue and the spew,


http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/jihad-is-misunderstood-spiritual-struggle-muslim-scholar-tells-oprah

jimmyk

According to a commenter at Powerline, Miringoff also dissed Sarah Palin in '08:

When Sarah Palin was thrilling huge crowds at early events in '08, Paul was slamming her on Powerline. I remember writing to him and asking, 'What are you doing? She's resonating with our base. Would your prefer something else?' Paul and several other conservative media types helped the liberal media destroy Palin and ruin what slim chances John McCain might have had against Obama.

With friends like him,...

henry

narciso, that guy should tell ISIS and Hezzbolah that... Oprah isn't waging jihad on anything except the nearest BBQ.

narciso

well I had a link from the beginning at 7:05, I kmow they were for Tpaw, who would have eliminated
the need for sedatives on that illfated voyage,

Jack is Back!

Did any of his co-bloggers back then defend Palin? Have any of them defended Carson today? Point made about Powerline.

Jane

From a liberal website re: Carson:

So he's simply a con man. I wonder how far he will get -- and whether
there might be some basis for prosecuting him.

Miss Marple

Jimmyk,

I wasn't following them in 2008. Shameful behavior with Palin, and they weren't the only ones.

One might also go back to the treatment Harriet Meiers got when she was nominated for the Supemecourt. The long knives came out from various blogs and talk radio hosts, and really not only killed her nomination but weakened Bush's presidency.

That worked out well, didn't it?

jimmyk

Sorry, narc, missed that post, should have guessed you'd be on top of that.

JiB, Hinderaker writes a followup where he respectfully (but mildly) disagrees with Mirengoff. I think they are both missing the bigger picture here.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/the-west-point-flap-how-much-will-it-carson.php

narciso

well she didn't have the right credential, as with the Huntress, that was the excuse, the reality was she didn't have the right thoughts,

MaryD

Yes, Jib, John Hinderaker made a stab at correcting the record, but it was pretty weak tea. I tend to attribute the weakness to not wanting to rupture the relationship with Miringoff. They have been three amigos since collge.
It may be past time to break up their act.

Jack is Back!

LSU plaing chess instead of running Fourcette every play. So, they have to kick it away. Saban has a big smile on his face. Stupid.

The Infamous Ignatz

Another reason to abolish the EPA.

narciso

yes what kind of 'cunning, cunning' plan is that?

We're not talking rocket science,

Jack is Back!

...Fournette....

I keep saying Fourcette? WhY?

narciso

autocorrect? it explains a fair amount,

Threadkiller

Breitbart News executive chairman Steve Bannon asked presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson if Obama was vetted enough and if the media including Breitbart News should relitigate Obama's background.
Dr. Carson told Bannon that is the solution.
Dr. Carson said let's get to the bottom of this noting that if his records were sealed the media would go ballistic.
https://youtu.be/FOLUBHrdtl0

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/07/dr-ben-carsons-john-paul-jones-moment-theres-no-give/


http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/11/major-breitbart-news-chairman-says.html?m=1

narciso

so what will they do for revenue, that's the excuse they make with every little nibble taken from leviathan?

The Infamous Ignatz

Andy McCarthy says Ted Cruz is right; The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist organization.
Not surprising to anyone here, of course.

Frau Mir wird's bald zu bund

Why does the Gray Slut print that the Republicans will support the black albatross's TPP treaty?

Who has read the 6000 pages? Certainly not the preezy.

Will Congress allow ValJar to bring Club Gitmo prisoners to the US by executive order?

Will Guantanamo be a present to Uncle Fidel?

Does the WaPo have operatives digging through Dr. Carson's trash or installing a journalist in a neighboring house?

narciso

it's still a rorschach test, for the sane,


http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/426746/ben-carson-yale-years-rich-lowry

narciso

it's the common assumption of Carlos Slim and the Top Men,

Val got the high lights, the rest is 'a a box of chocolates' from Whizzo.

is the pope Argentine?

anonamom

Sounds like Dr. Carson didn't have a "safe space" at Yale, so he made his own by avoiding the unsafe ones.

Anybody else watch those videos of the kids at Yale screaming at the Master of their college over his wife's email suggesting that maybe they were big enough to get over the pain of an offensive halloween costume costume by averting their gaze for taking away their safe space?

We have got to be living in end times. No other explanation.

henry

Ah, he was in Davenport... Another bit in common with my brother. Interesting.

Janet

I hadn't seen the Carson video about the pyramids.
Here it is (only 42 seconds) - http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2015/nov/05/ben-carson-egyptian-pyramids-built-to-store-grain-1998-video-footage

What a big nothing THAT is too.

"My own personal theory..."

What's the problem with him saying that??

henry

Anonamom, Yale Pres Salovey is the root cause. One of rse's favorites.

Buckeye

Nice score by Zeke.

narciso

yes, that was my impression,

http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=5771

I don't care for his protestations about Islam, he has enabled in word and deed, their spread,

narciso

the saudis are busy killing zaydi, the turks kurds,

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2015/11/07/in-syria-our-arab-allies-have-ditched-us-war-effort/

anonamom

Culture of victims, looking for the opportunity to be offended.

narciso

I think this comment at 5:03 illustrates a truth,

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=6329595&postID=2786447648496027402&bpli=1

boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys

Powerline does not get a pass with me, for two simple reasons:

1--It does not take a brain surgeon* to suspect that Politico's motives are less than pure, and to approach their product with an appropriate degree of skepticism, particularly when they are trashing a Republican and you are purportedly a conservative blogger;

2. The Politico post itself was self-evidently wrong. All you had to do was read the whole piece to see that not only did Carson not claim to have been admitted to West Point but in the very next paragraph of his own book (written 20 years ago not this week) he explained that he never applied. You have to be either very dense or politically motivated to miss or bury that.

3. If you are a "conservative" blogger and you don't understand the importance of questioning every one of these "scandals" and fighting back hard you are not really a Conservative blogger.

4. Hinderaker should blast his "friend" in as friendly a manner as he can, if possible, and in an unfriendly manner if not. He knows the game.

*cheap but effective.

boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys

OK four simple reasons...

Janet

Thanks, narciso @ 9:43.

Buckeye

Half time and Fournette has 9 yards.

Roll Tide!

Janet

This bit in an Am. Thinker post is good -

"Politico first created the perception that Dr. Ben Carson claimed to have applied to West Point and was both accepted and offered a full scholarship. Then they rebuffed their own assertion and claimed to have caught Dr. Carson in his own lie. In reality, it is Politico that has been caught misrepresenting the facts."

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/politicos_disinformation_of_the_day.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys

Narc--BN is dead on.

Also, while the current low price of oil means that it is less profitable to extract oil by fracking, the oil remains. Lots and lots of it. The idea that this extremely cheap, powerful, portable and plentiful source of energy will somehow be abandoned because of laws and subsidies of "advanced" countries favoring "green" alternative sources is ignorant and absurd. It ain't going away.

narciso

trumbo makes bryan cranston's role in total recall redux:??? look like a blockbuster,

http://deadline.com/2015/11/spectre-the-peanuts-movie-james-bond-box-office-1201610575/

narciso

eventually supply will drive the price up, that is the intent of sacrificing fracking to the skydragon,

James D.

Boatbuilder @ 9:45

Exactly!

There is simply no way any thinking and honest person could read the quotes from Carson's book and accept the Politico slander about him. There is no reasonable way to come to their interpretation, UNLESS you are out to lie about and damage Carson.

So no forgiveness, no benefit of the doubt from me.

anonamom

I stand with boatbuilder on Powerline.

Unforced error on their part. Need to admit that, and Paul what's his name owes Dr. Carson an apology.

I got a feeling it won't be coming.

The Infamous Ignatz

But, but, but scholarship...appointment...scholarship....appointment.
An obvious, inescapable lie. I bet he was just winging it on those conjoined twins too, assuming they even exist.

Idiots.

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