Sad News For Kevin Drum

Yesterday, from Kevin Drum:

Liberals Should Knock Off the Mockery Over Calls to Limit Syrian Refugees

Today, from the Snarkist-in-Chief, as reported in The Hill:

Obama: GOP refugee opponents 'scared of widows and orphans'

No report as to his view on "scared" Democrats such as Chuck Schumer or New Hampshire Gov. Maggie Hassan.

Obama apparently nodded to the possibility that security fears have a modest basis in reality:

Obama defended the screening for Syrian refugees as the "most rigorous process conceivable," hours after White House officials held a conference call with governors to reassure them about the security procedures for refugees.

That word may not mean what he thinks it mean. Let me note - the "most rigorous process conceivable" may not be satisfactory when people are coming from a war-torn country with no infrastructure and no credible police or government records about their past associations. But why ask me when I happen to have Marshall McLuhan FBI Director James Comey right here?

During a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing on Thursday, FBI Director James Comey sounded a cautious note that is likely to be picked up by critics of the White House’s plan to welcome more refugees into the U.S.

“My concern there is there are certain gaps ... in the data available to us,” Comey said.

“There is risk associated of bringing anybody in from the outside, but specifically from a conflict zone like that,” he added.

“There is no such thing as a no-risk enterprise and there are deficits that we face.”

Obama was clearly determined to elevate the tone of the debate by acknowledging his opponents legitimate concerns while explaining that these are risks worth taking because of America's self-conception and leadership role in the world. Kidding!

"We are not well served when, in response to a terrorist attack, we descend into fear and panic," he said. "We don't make good decisions if its based on hysteria or an exaggeration of risks."

Absolutely not! We need to make decision based on knee-jerk political correctness, with a clear eye on the late night comics and the heirs to Jon Stewart's "Daily Show.

I FEEL OBLIGED TO ADD: The Democratic New Hampshire governor and Senate hopeful Maggie Hassan is not taking Syrian refugees. The Democratic Presidential candidates will be touring the state prior to the primary talking up their visions and no doubt hoping the issue of Syrian refugees is never raised. But if it is, they will be in lockstep with Jon Stewart Obama, which seems awkward. How do they avoid creating RNC campaign ads, with Hillary running against Hassan?

Hassan may feel like the Democratic base in New Hampshire will stick with her regardless and is taking this position on the basis of its general election appeal. But what if she has correctly judged the mood even of her own base?

Gosh, there will be a growing list of topics for the media to ignore as Hillarity! rattles to its scripted conclusion.

ONE FOOT ON THE GRAVE AND THE OTHER N A BANANA PEEL: James Comey is also on the wrong side of the question of a Ferguson effect - you know, that kooky theory that screaming at police they are murderers and thugs inhibits them from doing their job. And now refugees?

Libs loved Comey when he stood up to the White House over the Bush surveillance program and facilitated Fitzgerald's pursuit of Dick Cheney. But that was a long time ago. Then again, he was appointed and confirmed to a ten year term in 2013, so what happens next in this now-unhappy marriage? What, you think the FBI will find a problem with Hillary's emails? This is better than '24'!

WITH THE WISDOM OF HINDSIGHT AND HISTORY: Knowing what we now know about the Department of Justice pushback against the Cheney-led anti-terror initiatives, primarily enhanced interrogation and surveillance, I am personally convinced that Comey appointed Fitzgerald to Get Cheney, not investigate the Plame leak. Or get Karl Rove.

Comments

[Jeff Dobbs]

Obama was practically an orphan after he mom and dad dumped him - and I am afraid of Obama.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Obama's self-awareness is staggering.

"We are not well served when, in response to a terrorist attack mass shooting, we descend into fear and panic," he said. "We don't make good decisions if its based on hysteria or an exaggeration of risks."

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Has anybody seen McTurtle lately?

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/11/17/here-are-10-major-terrorism-cases-brought-against-refugees-and-legal-immigrants-just-this-year-in-the-u-s/

[henry]

In his shell. Ryan was last seen saying Obama gets no free lunch next spending bill. tbd.

[Momto2]

"We don't make good decisions if its based on hysteria or an exaggeration of risks."

Maybe he hasn't seen the overnight news from Paris - according to cell phones retrieved another huge killing spree was just narrowly avoided. He is 180 degrees out of step with what's going on and seemingly proud of it!

[Jeff Dobbs]

I held out as long as I could, narc:

Obama defended the screening for Syrian refugees as the "most rigorous process conceivable," hours after White House officials held a conference call with governors to reassure them about the security procedures for refugees.

[jimmyk on iPhone]

I'd like to think Comey thumbing his nose at Barry is a good sign for how he'll handle the Hillary investigation.

[Threadkiller]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/18/hours-after-obama-taunts-gop-with-widows-female-suicide-bomber-explodes-in-paris/

[FTL]

The casual, matter-of-fact, unthinking lying is the heart of the problem. Leftists practice their own form of taqqiya.

Just as taqqiya rules out the concept of "good muslim," whatever we call the left's version does the same for every leftist piece of filth wasting my oxygen.

There is no way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[The world's gone backwards, hmj.]

He coulda just stopped with 'We don't make good decisions.'

[Threadkiller]

I'm reminded of this punchline:

"Your honor, having murdered my parents I now throw myself on the mercy of the court because I'm an orphan"

[sbw]

Ig, from the previous thread:But why should wholly private institutions be sunshiny to anyone not part of that private institution?

Try recasting the question this way: But why should wholly private institutions those susceptible to criminal enterprise be sunshiny to anyone not part of that private institution?

In a country of laws, no one, president or commoner, should be exempt from them.

[Miss Marple 2]

sbw,

My personal opinion is that all non-profits should have to release donor lists, just like political parties have to do. If someone can make the case for religious institutions being exmpt through the 1st amendment, I would accept that.

But Sierra Club, CAIR, ACLU, etc. all should have to disclose who donates.

[buccaneer morgan]

Maybe but I don't trust inspector dreyfus, back last winter, he was fagellating himself like Paul bettany over Hoover's excesses.

[Peter]

Now would be a good time in history for a statesman to explain to the American people how Barry 's shoving these Syrian migrants down or throats shows that the Federal Government is too powerful and tyrannical

[Peter]

Our

[buccaneer morgan]

He's like in that twilight zone where everyone grovels, because dissobeying him brings unspeakable horror. It should be pointed out that following his advice doesn't yield godd fruit ' but that's not important right now'

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/fbi-arrests-seminole-man-accused-of-calling-in-threats-to-two-pinellas/2254311

[jimmyk]

My personal opinion is that all non-profits should have to release donor lists

I used to feel that way, but now I am not sure. First, you have the lynch mobs threatening donors, and, second, you have in general an expectation of privacy and free association.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/620249/Eight-arrested-Istanbul-airport-amid-ISIS-fears

[Miss Marple 2]

jimmyk,

How about disclosing foreign donors? They are outside the Constitution and are not subject to domestic harassment.

[Janet]

I just want ALL organizations cut off from taxpayer money.
ALL of them.
The leftist enviro. groups live off of our tax dollars.

[James D]

jimmyk, I'm with you.

Especially given the complete lawlessness on the part of both the federal government and of progs generally.

[FTL]

The root of the problem is income taxation. It is just plain incompatible with freedom.

[Janet]

Beasts brought this up on the last thread.

How many Syrian refugees will be attending Sidwell Friends school?

Look up family info on Dem. politicians (neighborhoods, schools, vacation areas,...)& see how Syrian refugees will be impacting their lives.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Exactly, Peter; these times call for leadership but brave McTurtle has his tiny head drawn up into his shell. This is a perfect time for Eddie Munster to get salvation from that shrinking violet act he pulled against the dumbest retard to crawl out of Scranton so we shall see if he's up to the task.

[anonamom]

My governor--Pat McCory--just schooled the most disrespectful president ever as to why the Governors have major, valid concerns about the resettlement of "Syrian" refugees on NPR.

Governor McCory used terms a fifth grader could understand and spoke slowly and clearly, so maybe Val Jar can get the message across to President Petulant.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Clutch Cargo should be nervous; Lurch McHale was just fired by the Rockets.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Inconveivable!

Eight ISIS suspects posing as refugees arrested at Istanbul airport

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Talking down to Hussein Pissypants is a good strategy.

[Janet]

and in this great cultural exchange utopian madness...where are the Middle Eastern countries letting in Bibles & allowing the building of churches?

We're expected to take entire populations & they won't even allow a book into their country.

[Jack is Back!]

An interesting story in today's WSJ on Europe clamping down on the use of decommissioned weapons. Of course, do not even consider arming your population but rather dearming the terrorists. Looks like the weapons in Charlie Hebdo and Paris on Friday were reactivated from decommissioned status. Fingers point to Slovakia then the Brussels Arms souk.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/europe-looks-to-tighten-grip-on-decommissioned-weapons-1447784062

You all know the google trick.

[sbw]

Buc: Maybe but I don't trust inspector dreyfus

We are in agreement.

[clarice]

I agree on Comey's appointment of Fitzgerald.Love the entire post.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

What corporation isn't "susceptible to criminal enterprise"?
For that matter what individual isn't? After all it isn't the corporation itself doing the criminal enterprising.
We could eliminate the large majority of crime if sunshine were shining into every part of everyone's private life and guilt by association and prior restraint were as passe as innocent until proven guilty and privacy were made by the opening of the window shades.

We already have laws against criminal enterprises and all the rest of the dirty things people do under cover of darkness. But that darkness also keeps our busy body neighbors and the state out of our private lives and private matters.

Calling it sunshine doesn't make every day a sunny day. Taken to its logical end, as the state always does, it sounds a lot more like darkness at noon.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3322649/The-enemy-Nearly-SEVENTY-arrested-America-ISIS-plots-include-refugees-given-safe-haven-turned-terror.html#ixzz3rrCw2XLk

[Appalled]

I remember the days when Obama professed to understand the arguments of his opponents and made a periodic effort to engage them. I even remember the days when I actually thought that was his natural tendency. (I am trying to forget them, but Google empowered commenting colleagues probably won't let me.)

We have seen the rage of Obama in the wake of Paris. Well, we saw the rage of W after 9-11. Problem is, Obama's rage is against his domestic opponents, not the people killing people.

It has taken this long (because McCain would have been a powerfully lousy President at a time ill suited for him), but I do finally regret my Obama vote in 2008. The President's third-rate Daily Show routine is a scary thing to contemplate. He has no concept of what he faces. He has no grace to admit that, occasionally, he is wrong. He thinks the law, when it is not his plaything, is something to be defied. And his Mama did not teach him proper manners.

[Threadkiller]

Donald Trump reacted Wednesday morning to Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's decision to drop out of the presidential race, calling the Republican governor "a little nasty" but ultimately a "nice guy."

"Well, he was, you know, a little nasty with me, but I think ultimately was very nice and he tried. Everyone's nasty to me because they want to get votes," Trump said Wednesday morning on Fox News. "Look he was in there, he tried very hard. I think he's a nice guy, he was a good man."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/18/politics/donald-trump-bobby-jindal-drops-out/index.html

CNN says Trump called Piyush "a little nasty" but they show the actual quote in the next paragraph.

Saying someone was a little nasty to you isn't the same as saying they are a little nasty.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I have to disagree with Wretchard on refugees.
Who cares if among them are some smart, industrious people? There aren't smart, industrious people among the millions here who can't find work? There aren't smart, industrious people from cultures that will reinforce our freedoms rather than weaken them?

And if we want intelligence from the refugees who a week ago were "migrants"; seems like they'd be a lot more useful in situ than over here.

I also have to disagree with Barry; of course we should have a religious test for immigrants.
The simple fact is the vast majority of muslims endorse sharia, which is utterly incompatible with our constitution. Any believing muslim is lying when he takes the oath of citizenship. Why would we want to let in people who lie during the very act of becoming citizens?
I understand why Barry would because he did the same thing when taking the oath of office, but why would the rest of us?

What we have here is exceptional but it is not indestructible. Our ancestors knew this and safeguarded it because, other than the radicals, our basic freedoms were cherished by everyone.
Well, now the radicals control one party and many of our institutions and the rest of us now have to safeguard them from our own neighbors, not just foreign invaders or we're going to lose ther whole shebang.

[GMax]

Name one thing Obama has done on a bipartisan basis.

He is not occasionally wrong, he is wrong nearly every damn time he opens his mouth. Police acting stupidly is but one example.

But love is never having to say you are sorry I guess...

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Saying someone was a little nasty to you isn't the same as saying they are a little nasty.--

Yeah, it's not like comparing them to a child molester or anything.

[DublinDaveForever]

If a poor uneducated mexican can just stroll into the United States then a terrorist cell backed by a large international network and billions of dollars might not find it that hard.

And if said terrorist can't then he can always franchise the act via the internet.

ISIS want us to adopt a siege mentality,dig a moat around us and live in fear......that's kind of a point of TERRORism.And thanks to Republicans (who shit their pants at the drop of a hat) it worked.

You are all now working for ISIS,you are all now payed employees of the Islamic state and will feature in their up and coming recruitment movie "The West hates you, come join us"

And you are the guys who want boots on the ground in a war zone????Sheesh...it's easy when it's not your boots I guess.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Appalled I'm afraid you're going to catch considerable heat for how far along the road you were before your Damascus moment. One might even say if Appalled won't come to Damascus, Damascus will come to Appalled.

But the scales finally having fallen from your eyes and no longer able to resist the goads can you point me to where Barry ever even slightly sincerely engaged his "enemies" arguments?

His "Drink your Slushy and shut up, you drove the car in the ditch" comments?

"I won"?

His dismissal and anger with Paul Ryan for pointing out exactly what is now happening with Barrycare?

There must be a hundred more...
Maybe a thousand and the reason is also in the bible; the leopard doesn't change his spots.
Sometimes his spots confuse the person looking at him because they are there for camouflage, but they never change.

[Sandy Daze]

It is never easy.

Isaiah 6:8

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

WeeDavey; no longer funny and no longer even slightly coherent.

Does sound like a tacit endorsement of Trump though.

[clarice]

We should esp examine all those organizations' donors that have high sounding names--like League of Women Voters, Friends of the Earth, you get my drift.

[GMax]

Is Sally Kohn actually the Double Douchebag?

[Threadkiller]

Yeah, it's not like comparing them to a child molester or anything.

LOL!

Great catch!

[buccaneer morgan]

No that's budansky (sic) of the hill, or tomaky of the basilisk.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

He's Sally Kohn and Ezra Klein's love hate child.

I know...ew.

[buccaneer morgan]

Like constanza' human fund,

[GMax]

I sure hope my friends here will let me know if I ever get to sounding like Sally Kohn. Friends dont let friends post stupidly...

[Rick Ballard]

Clarice,

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? The John Doe/GAB Stasi provided a very good example of why extreme caution should be used in developing new laws or regulations regarding speech and money.

[henry]

nice. new meme "economy will suck due to irrational fear of terrorists by consumers"

[Miss Marple 2]

henry,

Yay! Something to blame the sucky economy on besides the unexpected bad (winter, spring, summer, fall) weather!

Now it's terrorism that's at fault! Just in time to save Obama from being blamed for the crummy Christmas selling season!

[Threadkiller]

Name one thing Obama has done on a bipartisan basis.

S. RES. 511

Recognizing that John Sidney McCain, III, is a natural born citizen.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

April 10, 2008

Mrs. McCaskill (for herself, Mr. Leahy, Mr. Obama, Mr. Coburn, Mrs. Clinton, and Mr.Webb) submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-congress/senate-resolution/511/text

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

I just bought gas @ 1.839. BOR is surely preparing an explanation for THE FOLKS of why the eeeeeeeevil oil companies are setting us up for something.

[Jack is Back!]

Ummmh. On second thought, maybe this Syrian refugee problem isn't as big a deal as we were let to believe. At least not if you are Iggy or Beasts:)

http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/18/13-syrian-refugees-wed-take-immediately-photos/

[matt]

I despise the man ever more every day. He hates the republicans more than ISIS.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-fg-obama-republicans-refugees-20151117-story.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--On second thought, maybe this Syrian refugee problem isn't as big a deal as we were let to believe.-

I'd like to revise and extend my remarks.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Gmax:
Friends dont let friends post stupidly...

Oh, boy. Can't believe I'm about to do this, but I consider you a friend.

Here's a video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciG-Xs7mBwU

It's from 2007.

8 years ago. Pre-Obama. It's time to move on.

:)

[Buckeye]

I am kinda thinking Baptism ought to be a condition of entry for "refugees".

Maybe in pig's blood would be a good way to separate the wheat from the chaff.

[buccaneer morgan]

So it turns out in Carlos slims recount of masher abbaoud. He goes to prison for a spell, yards yafda, he ends up in libya, no explanation how that happens, he ends up part of a Libyan branch of is called 'brigade of the prophets'

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From matt's link;

"I cannot think of a more potent recruitment tool for ISIL than some of the rhetoric coming out of here in the course of this debate,” Obama said, using an acronym sometimes used for the terrorist group.

I can think of one tool that's more potent at recruiting IS nutjobs.
Unfortunately it doesn't have a switch to turn its non-stop, inanity-spouting mouth off.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3323196/Shooting-breaks-Paris-suburb-anti-terrorist-operation.html

[clarice]

Israel is downgrading diplomatic ties with European countries because of their product labelling decision..I think they should retaliate--make products from parts of Europe ruled by Moslems--Made in occupied Malmo, St Denis and Molenbeek, for example?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Hussein should have stopped after the first three words.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Not entirely sure I wouldn't rather stay in Syria than be baptized in pig's blood.

Gotta be a better test; how bout asking them to pray in the direction of a Hormel's plant?

[DublinDaveForever]

Here's another way of thinking about this refugee situation that may appeal to the Conservative heart.Imagine we let these Syrians in and one of them blows up an Airliner or a shopping mall etc...Republicans are on record opposing their admittance and Democrats, headed by Obama pushed and pushed for it.

Obama will go down in history as the worst U.S President in history.

Democrats will never be trusted with American security ever again.

If nothing happens then that's good too.

Win win.

[Jack is Back!]

For the vetter's questionaire:

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog 22h22 hours ago
Here's a good refugee screening question: will you agree to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The comments were overwhelmingly of similar sentiment, CH.

[Miss Marple 2]

DuDa,

I do not put political advantage over the safety of my grandchildren.

Fail-Fail.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

At his current pace of idiocy, WeeDavey, we can avoid the dead passengers and still safely have Barry recognized as the WPE = a real win-win

[Threadkiller]

Many screenshots of data displayed on Hannity last night:

http://www.birtherreport.com/2015/11/full-video-trump-to-hannity-obamas.html?m=1

More on Sessions and his contribution to Hannity's data:

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2015/11/26_terror_plots_in_us_tied_to.html

Asymmetrical.

[Threadkiller]

will you agree to bake a cake for a gay wedding?

Will you go to the Folsom Street Fair and hold a sign that says "I'm a foreign object, will you take me in?"

[DebinNC]

What's going on with the previous flood of illegal Hispanics entering the U.S. from the south? Does the flood continue unabated? The double-whammy aspect of the U.S. already enduring the Hispanic tsunami doesn't seem to be mentioned when talk of adding many 1000s of Syrians into the mix is discussed.

[henry]

JiB, note from our Lurking Chigagoan:

@AndrewCMcCarthy: O: Refugee 'religious test' is 'shameful' & 'not American.' No, Mr. President, it's actually required by federal law https://t.co/2vik3EmK39

[Appalled]

Ignatz:

I can't really engage your arguments without spending more time than I have digging some stuff up. Suffice it to say, I believed this Obama existed (it's his 2004 Dem Convention keynote), and I think you know enough of my politics to understand its appeal to me:

Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes.

Well, I say to them tonight, there's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

There's not a black America and white America and Latino America and Asian America; there's the United States of America.

(APPLAUSE)

The pundits, the pundits like to slice and dice our country into red states and blue States: red states for Republicans, blue States for Democrats. But I've got news for them, too. We worship an awesome God in the blue states, and we don't like federal agents poking around our libraries in the red states.

We coach little league in the blue states and, yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states.

(APPLAUSE)

There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq, and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq.

We are one people, all of us pledging allegiance to the stars and stripes, all of us defending the United States of America.

What is, well, appalling, in light of Obama's last two days of snark, is that it is almost impossible to believe that our wandering Don Rickels of a President could be capable of these words.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Will you go to the Folsom Street Fair and hold a sign that says "I'm a foreign object, will you take me in?"--

For Pete's sake.
It's gotta be something that would kick WeeDavey out of the country too.

[Michael (fpa Patriot4Freedom)]

Appalled at 10:38
I do finally regret my Obama vote in 2008

Appalled - Glad to hear the good news. You've taken a *lot* of flak from most everyone here for your vote, and you deserve credit for being upfront about your vote, and for taking the abuse.

I don't know that I could have done the same were I in your shoes.

[Threadkiller]

Obama's teleprompter was very capable back in the hypnotic days.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I think you know enough of my politics to understand its appeal to me:--

Pea and thimble men always know the weakness of their audience.

[DebinNC]

Henry, thanks for that enlightening and irrefutable fed statute/s re religious persecution. Not that BOzo gives a fig.

[henry]

Deb, a note from the lurking one for you:

Re flood from Mexico was practice for DHS to move Undesirables where they would be electorally advantageous. What those undesirables do for recreation after they get here is not the Admin's problem....

[James D]

henry @ 12:07

That is no surprise at all.

[DebinNC]

Thanks, Henry. Just wondering how local communities are coping with continuing streams of non-English speaking children in schools. How many current ESOL teachers can handle Arabic? Very, very few I imagine. What about housing families with an average of 6-8 children? How are they accommodated?

[Buckeye]

"Not entirely sure I wouldn't rather stay in Syria than be baptized in pig's blood."

That was the plan:)

Actually I posted this absurd idea to focus attention on just how impossible it is to vet the refugees in any meaningful way.

Couple that with the fact that they are being vetted by the same kind of government drones that man the TSA checkpoints, need I say more.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I just want to be clear:

I wholeheartedly endorse the DNC and Hillary taking up WeeDavey and Ezra's argument that more dead Americans and Europeans from terrorist attacks is a measure of how well the war against the terrorists is progressing.

I also encourage the Dems to characterize those pointing out that Barry's "strategy" and many wars are a hopeless catastrophe and his unwillingness to acknowledge same is the mark of an infantile, unhinged mind are providing recruitment to the terrorists.

Using the victims of terrorism as evidence of success and having your standard bearer putting his hand in his coat like Napoleon while saying crazy things is bound to win the Dems lots of votes.
Have at it guys.

[henry]

new thread... TM read a lot of NYT for it too.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--That was the plan:)--

I meant I wasn't sure that I, as a baptized Christian who has no aversion to pork and pork byproducts, might not prefer staying in Syria to being baptized in pig blood myself, so I wasn't sure of its value as a winnowing of the herd.

[Cecil Turner]

It has taken this long [. . .] but I do finally regret my Obama vote in 2008.

Perhaps extrapolating too much from that latter quote, it appears a good part of the charm for him was things he said. And now the final straw is other things he said. Not to long-distance amateur psychoanalyze, but do you think that's a rational way of evaluating either prospective or past job performance?

Seems to me there's little difficulty in looking at candidate Obama's record, or his record as president, and determining he's unsuitable. Of course, if you're sifting through a lot of blather, that makes it more difficult . . . but seven years?

Democrats will never be trusted with American security ever again.

Bad news for you Dave; that ship has sailed.

[FTL]

The pig's blood thing wouldn't work because of taqqiya.

There is no way to get past taqqiya.

[FTL]

And speaking of taqqiya, the left's compulsion to lie to advance their unholy aims neatly explains the quotes from the the 2004 DNC keynote delivered by Jarrett's punkass little pet faggot.

[Threadkiller]

There is no way to get past taqqiya.

If it tells a lie, it will float.

[henry]

Make then draw a cartoon of mohammed

[GUS]

Which one of the Paris attackers was a widow?
Obama is sick. I mean the bastard is sick.

[Cecil Turner]

Which one of the Paris attackers was a widow?

When that last gal blew herself up, was her hubby already dead? Might need a ruling on this one.

[Jane]

Dudu,

If you are telling the truth you have bigger balls than 99% of the liberals I know.

[Appalled]

Cecil:

Well this thread is dead, but I will answer here.

In 2008, the race was between (i) a senator with no executive experience, a number of viewpoints I found repellent, and a manner that suggested Jack Nicholson on a bad day and (ii) a senator with no executive experience, less viewpoints I found repellent, and maybe, and ability to get us to something resembling post-racial. I made my choice. I regret it now, but it wasn't flighty.

You note that what seems to have got me is yet more rhetoric. No, not really. I have long thought that Obama was a pretty abysmal President. McCain would have been an abysmal President, too. But he never would have gone to a foreign country, after an act of war, mumbled some mealy mouthed wimpy condemnation of ISIS, and then used the opportunity to rip, rip, rip the opposition.

Hence the regret. But the decision to go extra-Consitutional in late 2014 is as much in my mind as anything else.