Contrasting Headlines

The NY Times profiles Robert Dear, responsible for the attack in the Planned Parenthood center:

For Robert Dear, Religion and Rage Before Planned Parenthood Attack

A year ago the Times profiled the man who shot two NYC police officers execution style:

New York Officers’ Killer, Adrift and Ill, Had a Plan

Uh huh. Don't turn your back on those religious ones. No hint of mental illness in the Dear shootings? No suspicion of rage in the case of a guy who posted he was going to put wings on pigs before doing just that?

Whatever. Its TimesWorld.

And do let me add - this headline could have been run a hundred times:

For [insert jihadist name here] Religion and Rage Before [insert target here] Attack.

Yet we never see it. Just by way of ludicrous example, here are two Times offerings on Maj. Nidal Hassan, killer of thirteen in a 2009 Fort Hood rampage:

Suspect Was ‘Mortified’ About Deployment

And a slide show:

A Doctor, and a Conflicted Soldier

Comments

[rse]

First again?

[Oldie but goodie.]

All the News That's Left to Print.

[henry]

The Times missed his cannabis dot com rantings? They go there more than they go to google.

[Rick Ballard]

I don't think "bitterly clinging to his bong" fits the narrative, Henry.

[Cecil Turner]

In Korea, we had Task Force Smith . . . because the NoKo's would give up as soon as they saw who they were fighting. In Vietnam, it was LTC Moore who led his cavalry troopers into Ia Drang to overawe the PAVN, and in Iraq/Syria it's . . . a scapegoat to be named later:

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter informed Congress earlier today that a “specialized expeditionary targeting force” would be sent to Iraq on top of the 3,500 personnel already there, with the authority to operate in Syria too. This mix of Special Forces “will over time be able to conduct raids, free hostages, gather intelligence, and capture ISIL leaders,” explained Carter.

What could possibly go wrong?

[matt]

Amazing all of the vitriol going into this case. The guy is clearly mentally ill and once again its about guns and religious Christian fanatics.

[narciso]

must be using ctu perimters

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/paris-isis-killer-crossed-six-eu-borders-before-reaching-syria/

[narciso]

here's another misunderstood lad

http://www.weaselzippers.us/242907-student-who-shut-down-university-of-chicago-because-he-threatened-to-kill-white-devils-is-released-to-his-mom/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From the Times link;

In May of that year [1991], according to the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division, Mr. Dear was arrested and convicted in Charleston for the unlawful carrying of a “long blade knife” and the illegal possession of a loaded gun.

Either of those sounds serious enough to have triggered a NICS or background check disapproval [punishable by one year in prison, whether felony or misdemeanor] so I'm not sure what new gun laws would have stopped him.

[Dave (in MA)]

Don't they already have enough problems in Rahm's town? http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2015/12/deval_patrick_appointed_to_advise_chicago_police_task_force

[Dave (in MA)]

Defense Secretary Ashton Carter informed Congress earlier today that a “specialized expeditionary targeting force” would be sent to Iraq on top of the 3,500 personnel already there, with the authority to operate in Syria too.

Trying to convince the 'JV' to switch to hybrid technicals.

[henry]

On Twitter, the IL AG called n DOJ civil rights assholes to investigate Chicago Police.

Chicago Police now leaking Rahm was involved in the coverup.

Check your popcorn supplies... with Deval also in the mix a big franchise for stealing OPM is now on the market.

[Jeff Dobbs]

henry:
The Times missed his cannabis dot com rantings?

One of his rants was about the end of the world due to . . . hurricanes.

How do we know that doomsday predictions about climate change isn't what triggered him? Why won't the Times "question the timing" of the shooting happening this close to the Paris climate conference?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Twinkle toes Rahm threw the police chief under the bus, no? From the leaks I'm thinking he was popular with the men on the beat.

[narciso]

whereas he does himself few favors here,

http://heavy.com/news/2015/12/john-escalante-chicago-police-interim-acting-commissioner-superintendent-replace-garry-mccarthy-fired-bio-age-detective-laquan-mcdonald-protests-hispanic-family-detective/

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqn4BqFY-R4
Fast forward until 3:34:45.

[Dave (in MA)]

h/t Stephanie

[narciso]

a strange feeling of dejavu last felt in 1878

http://observer.com/2015/12/whats-next-in-the-terrifying-unraveling-russo-turkish-crisis/

[Dave (in MA)]

Once we shitcanned the Olympic boondoggle they had to figure another way to get him back on the teat.

[Miss Marple 2]

This is a neat religious article, for those so inclined. For others, scroll on by:

http://aleteia.org/2015/12/01/the-waze-of-providence/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_term=Autofeed#link_time=1448987767

[narciso]

what a powerful metaphor,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3340848/ISIS-Bataclan-terrorist-killed-89-people-trained-shoot-FRENCH-POLICE-gun-club-shaving-beard-avoid-suspicion.html

[Momto2]

Thank you MM for that article! I love the analogy and plan to share it with my 9th grade students.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Wow...typhuspad has a real problem with Mr. Ballard's post. He got stuck in the naughty bin - and now when I just tried to copy and paste it here, I got sent to the naughty bin. I'm going break it up in smaller chunks to see what if anything holds it up that way...

[Jeff Dobbs]

Rick Ballard said:
Did I miss the signing of a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq and Syria? Is there a UN agreement re Syria that has slipped my notice?

[Jeff Dobbs]

Wow. It simply will not accept the second of Mr. Ballard's sentences. I tried editing it a bit to see if certain keywords were triggering it to no avail.

Well, I'll beat you yet, typhuspad.

[Jeff Dobbs]

Here is is...

Take that you dirty, stinking, rotten software.

[Miss Marple 2]

Jeff Dobbs,

High praise for sticking with it to bring us Rick's comment!

Rick Ballard, Good assessment of the situation and Putin!

[James D.]

I'm going to repeat my post from the prior thread, since it applies to the NYT, too:

The writers at the NY Times are fucking liars, and the world would be a better place had their mothers been regular clients at Planned Parenthood.

[narciso]

things we already sort of knew,

http://babalublog.com/2015/12/01/alan-gross-interview-on-60-minutes-the-world-learns-about-cuba-what-we-already-knew/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Does a person have a tort against Zuckerburg if he gives him stock presently valued at a zillion but to be eventually valued as worthless as his product?

[GUS]

Obama doesn't need no stinkin' status of forces agreements. It's for TEH CHILDREN.

[narciso]

remember that little detail re the gross exchange,

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/crazy-che-el-crazy-che-844066

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Barry's triumph marches on as his legacy builds;
White student unions now becoming a world wide phenomenon

and trying to boost the economy;

Black Friday breaks record with 185K gun background checks.

The greatest gun salesman in history.
A fitting legacy for the sorriest turd to ever sit in the oval orifice.

[narciso]

the diligence with which they throw down the memory hole,

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/12/01/7-pieces-of-documentation-that-vindicate-trumps-claim-of-911-muslim-celebrations/

[Janet]

Love your 7:20 link, MM. Thanks.

[maryrose]

I. no longer watch controversial statements and then the media lies that follow
Ditto on any and all shootings
All events are lied about and made political
The last 5 days have been full of what I call garbage news
I would much rather spend my time more productively
Hil has no plan for fighting ISIS

[maryrose]

Rahm part of cover up
He lied to get re elected just like his former boss
He is out of office in 5432

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Remember the cool, progressive CEO at Gravity who raised his employees wages to $70K and took a pay cut?
Remember how the media fawned on the little doofus?

An actual journalist at Bloomberg did a little digging and as it turns out he is a horrible liar who took those actions in response to a lawsuit filed by his brother, a minority shareholder, that claims the clown was paying himself far too much.
It also turns out his ex wife wrote years ago about the physical abuse she suffered from the guy in a forum and at a time in which she would not benefit from the revelation and in which she didn't name him. His response to that is bizarre.
Classic expose of a fraud.

[narciso]

that's when the narrative is introduced, and correcting it, takes years often decades,

as I recall from Hal Moore's memoir, his unit was dangerously understrength when they deployed into the LaDrang valley,

[boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys]

Your Stupid President: Obama Declares, In Paris, in the Wake of a Mass Shooting Resulting in 132 Deaths, That Mass Shootings Just Don't Happen Outside the US

—Ace

This would be funny if it was The Onion. It ain't.

[Rick Ballard]

Hit,

Thanks for digging that comment out. I'm very curious about the interface between American troops and the Iran led Shia militia which is doing much of the fighting in non-Kurdish areas.

It should be very exciting.

[matt]

Industrial espionage was much less glamorous, narciso, for the most part.The Swiss were making huge profits shipping restricted technologies to the East. My job at one time was sabotaging such shipments.Amazing what saline solution in the right places can do to semiconductor processing equipment.

The real irony was that the Russians left so much of it sitting outdoors during their brutal winters as we found out later on.I was at a factory in the early 80's and found some of the equipment frozen solid with rust when it was uncrated.

[Janet]

On topic...
It is disgraceful how pro-life Americans are being slandered in the MFM.

I wrote this on FB
A reminder about the insane man that shot people in Colorado.
NBC wrote - "-Dear said "no more baby parts" in reference to Planned Parenthood, two law enforcement sources with knowledge of the case told NBC News."

Who are the law enforcement sources? Why not say the names & tell their jobs?
All the stories that mention that quote are referencing NBC news & reprinting what NBC claimed.

Here's the link - http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/planned-parenthood-shooting-suspect-made-comment-about-no-more-baby-n470706

Then there is this from the Colorado Springs Gazette -
"Robert Lewis Dear, 57, told investigators "no more baby parts" after surrendering to heavily armed officers at the city's lone Planned Parenthood clinic Friday, multiple news outlets reported. ...The reports cited unnamed law enforcement sources, which The Gazette could not independently confirm. It was first reported by NBC News."

Here's the link - http://gazette.com/possible-motive-for-accused-colorado-springs-planned-parenthood-gunman-no-more-baby-parts/article/1564495

Multiple news outlets just reprinted what NBC news wrote....so it is more factually true to say that ONLY NBC news claims Dear said, "no more baby parts".

[narciso]

certainly Farewell was one of the landmark examples,

http://pagesix.com/2015/11/30/geraldo-threatens-suit-after-being-locked-out-of-radio-station/?dg

Gaede is a mysterious character, like the one in the Spy who came in from the cold, who provided some insight in the Trujillo/Gross swap, or so it appeared.

[narciso]

sorry they are rebelling against the narrative they created themselves,

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/220273/#respond

[narciso]

I'm speaking of Karl Mundt, the former Nazi factotum who serves his Stasi masters,

[Miss Marple 2]

http://dcwhispers.com/french-reporters-stunned-at-obamas-ignorance-he-is-an-assole-an-assole/

[Smokey]

My mom was reminded of this:

Saudi Students Praise 9-11 Attack at San Diego State University

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/550542/posts

Of course the good kid was seen as the trouble maker. I wonder if the head muzzie in charge, from SDSU, remembers saying that it was entirely possible. If he recants will Trump get all dissy with him?

[Threadkiller]

That's weird. I was going to say that as well, Smokey.

[henry]

Thanks Miss M! Now I can understand French soccer. ;)

[clarice]

Precisely, TM

[clarice]

I think Zuckerberg is right to give a lot away--it would only wreck his child's life. Unfortunately, it's hard to do that right--see the waste of the millions he gave NJ to improve their public schools.

[narciso]

this is where Tom Lehrer screams in the ether,

http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/11/30/not-the-onion-obama-appoints-hamas-homie-as-his-top-adviser-on-isis/

[narciso]

ot, does first degree murder, seem like an overcharge in the macdonald case, doesn't 2nd degree seem more reasonable?

[Miss Marple 2]

narciso,

I am not a lawyer. I think they go for the higher to make sure they get a lower conviction. But this is only my supposition.

[GUS]

So what if DEAR DID say, "No more baby parts"????????????????????
How does that indict ANYONE ELSE???

I am saying....NO MORE BABY PARTS.....that does not make me guilty of ANYTHING except being somewhat moral.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

So do the Slimes and Compost circle the wagons around 404 now that he offended the French and Jerry Rivers by making a stunningly ignorant statement even by his standards.

I think they have no choice but to go full Jonestown.

[narciso]

bien veni le parti, mssier, I would say to Riviera and co,

so the braquer who figured in that expose of Club
Fleury, Benghalem is now in Syria, and probably planning other attacks,

[clarice]

Buffalo press is reporting that after Silver conviction prosecutor will go after Cuomo on corruption charges.

[clarice]

http://buffalochronicle.com/2015/12/01/emboldened-by-silver-conviction-bharara-to-indict-cuomo-jan-2nd/

[narciso]

that's my poor attempt of 'welcome to the party, pal,' bhaara is ruthless, to what degree you need to read d'souza's memoir,

[GUS]

Well the JAYVEEEEEEEEEEE has been vanquished.
I mean after that REBUKE they recieved.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I think Zuckerberg is right to give a lot away--it would only wreck his child's life.--

I find it highly doubtful Suckerberg will give away enough to prevent young master Suckerberg growing up a trust fund pain in the ass to the rest of society.

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

Oh, no! I bet this means Sandra Lee will be back on Food Network with her tablescapes and creative cocktails!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

That 9:42 is a blockbuster if true.
Couldn't happen to a nicer gangster.
Is it too much to hope Rahm and Andrew both go down in the new year?
Yeah...but a feller can still dream.

[clarice]

MM, you are heartless. XOXO

[clarice]

Nytol--

[Rick Ballard]

I think they have no choice but to go full Jonestown."

Wilson snapped after trying to peddle a crap treaty in Paris. Obama may have beaten him at something.

I'd feel better if I knew there weren't any launch codes in the football. Putin isn't done kicking sand in Obama's face.

[narciso]

I hadn't noticed this at the time, maybe he was the handler, not abbaoud,

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/14/the-hunt-for-isis-french-chief-executioner.html?via=mobile&source=twitter

[Janet]

This link is the best one I've come across detailing what happened at the Colorado shooting - http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/11/29/what-really-happened-in-the-colorado-springs-shooting/

*the initial 911 report of gunfire, made at 11:38 AM by an employee of Planned Parenthood from inside the building, indicated the gun shots were coming from outside.

*We do know Planned Parenthood has said none of its employees was injured in the attack. In fact, the clinic took its “active shooter” security precautions and moved all of its 15 employees, and the nine patients who were reportedly present when the gunfire was heard, to a safe room in the back, away from the front door.

*...period of time lasted until at least 1:34 PM, when police told the local news reporters that the shooting didn’t appear related to the Planned Parenthood clinic (see Examiner link above). It was apparently sometime after 1:34 PM when Dear actually entered the Planned Parenthood offices.

(so for 2 hrs. the insane guy is outside & shooting people outside)

*they reported Dear’s surrender at 4:52 PM. Police said he shouted that he would surrender, and did not resist.

from Gateway Pundit - "Planned Parenthood officials have confirmed none of the people killed in the shooting or 9 victims who were injured were Planned Parenthood abortion clinic staff or patients and authorities have released no motive for the shooter as to whether or not he actually targeted Planned Parenthood."

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/hillary-clinton-put-rosa-parks-on-her-campaign-logo?bffbpolitics&utm_term=.lqrj9le1b#.yy5k3WoPQ

Proving what I have said from Day One: Hillary has a political tin ear.

[Miss Marple 2]

They've lost the Red Cross!

http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2015/11/thousands-of-red-cross-volunteers-in-holland-wont-help-refugees/

[narciso]

they said abbaoud, had been on their radar, for two years, this guy has been for the better part of 14

http://www.propublica.org/article/europes-revolving-door-prisons-compound-growing-terror-threat

[Miss Marple 2]

Heading to bed.

Nytol!

[narciso]

well more like provoke through inaction

:http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/house-democrat-obama-could-start-devastating-nuclear-war-with-russia/

the modern update of the crimean war,

[Janet]

Look at this crap - from Chris Cillizza
WaPo: If GOP Wants Black And Latino Votes, Climate Change Would Be A Good Start…

http://www.weaselzippers.us/242865-wapo-if-gop-wants-black-and-latino-votes-climate-change-would-be-a-good-start/

We have GOT to overhaul our lousy, rotten, biased, lying, corrupt media.
They are enemy #1.

[daddy]

I thought there would be no boots on the ground in this Administration?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--We have GOT to overhaul our lousy, rotten, biased, lying, corrupt media.
They are enemy #1. --

Case in point; Reuters giving this Worldwatch dumbshit a soapbox rather than a garrote; Why Syria is the canary in the coal mine for a new era of world conflict; climate change.

An overhaul ISTM would best be effected via a public massacre and mass grave.

[narciso]

why is it only happening in north africa and the middle east would be a good question,

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/01/update-on-obama-dapa-amnesty-scotus-appeal-supreme-court-grants-limited-extension-to-states/

[Dave (in MA)]

Daddy, I thought the promise was no American boots on the ground...
http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-the-world/us-airman-got-the-boot-for-pointing-out-that-his-boots-were-made-in-china-130704?news=850469

[narciso]

I did not know about part of this,

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2015/December/Former-Gov-Sarah-Palin-on-My-Toughest-Year-So-Far

[narciso]

well supposedly we had no troops in libya, but at least some of the GRS had been previously assigned there,

[narciso]

even voltaire would be hardpressed to satirize,

http://www.steynonline.com/7328/house-calls-for-jihadists

[narciso]

early happy birthday, clarice,

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--why is it only happening in north africa and the middle east would be a good question--

A point the only sensible commenter made.

[BB Key]

CH, Great game Heels vs Terps . Reminded me of great past ACC games .

lol, On the Terp website Sulaiman's HS is listed as Duke

[narciso]

and playing the part of decaprio,

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/01/politics/obama-paris-press-conference/index.html?eref=rss_politics

[jimmyk]

This story gives some hope, though maybe it's just an attempt to exonerate Hillary on the assumption that Comey won't actually do anything.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261582-fbi-chief-is-wild-card-for-clinton

[narciso]

on one hand, he contributed to McCain and Romney, supposedly, otoh, he was part of the narrative against Cheney, which occurred the day before the precursor of Paris, the Madrid train bombings, also he seems to have been involved in the phony slap given to Sandy Burglar,

[jimmyk]

Yeah, I remember all the bipartisan praise for Patrick Fitzgerald, about how independent he was. I think The Hill expects Comey not to act, so they are praising his independence for Hillary's benefit. Of course they could be wrong about Comey, and it would backfire.

[narciso]

like I say, I don't trust Inspector Dreyfus, and I think that Ashcroft tall tale, was one of the things that earned him the directorship,

[narciso]

there are some doozies in that file,

http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/220299/

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

BBK, sounds like the Holes were shooting lights out and Layman and Nickens weren't making their open threes. I don't like any losses (and the team has pretty much underachieved so far) but this one I can live with.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Yeah, I struggled through Snowpiercer, hoping that its seeming warning about unintended consequences could redeem it, but by the end I was kind of hoping the bear would, not necessarily rape them, but for sure eat them all.

[narciso]

well it's not as bad as Highlander 2, the Quickening, what offlabel pharmaceutical 'inspired'
that one, it was nominally about the greenhouse effect, and even Virginia Madsen, couldn't save it back in the day

[narciso]

what a whiny git:

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/nov/30/marlon-james-writers-of-colour-pander-white-woman-man-booker-event-brief-history-seven-killings

[Threadkiller]

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/12/02/cbs-channel-2-new-jersey-video-news-report-911-jersey-city-residents-celebrating-on-rooftops/

Stephanopoulos will turn this into a fake advantage for the buffoon Trump, which will play right into Hilary's hands.

[Man Tran]

Frau,

If you check in over on this thread, I'm working in Bellevue near the 520 split and camping out down in Renton. Maybe we can meet up before you head home. My schedule is fairly flexible.

BTW my Renton hangout belongs to an expat German pal and her hubby.

[daddy]

What did DiCaprio say that bear did to him?

[Chitown Jerker]

"Chicago Police now leaking Rahm was involved in the coverup."

What coverup? The FBI, US Attorney and States Attorney offices were involved in the case early on and the dash cam video was known (including to McDonald family) and part of a lawsuit (regarding release prior to any trial and potential impact on jury pool). Any murder charge is a state or Federal decision, not at city level.