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December 15, 2015

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henry

Yes, too complicated so raise taxes and give government more power to screw it up.

GUS

Too dangerous for TEH CHILDREN to walk to school in Los Angeles.

FORE!!!

Threadkiller

What If the Westboro Baptist Church Had a Billion Members, and They Wanted to Come to the U.S?
http://www.hngn.com/articles/160319/20151214/muslim-immigrants-westboro-baptist-church-more-common-think-commentary.htm

Threadkiller

http://www.hngn.com/articles/160319/20151214/muslim-immigrants-westboro-baptist-church-more-common-think-commentary.htm

Threadkiller

Think of the economic terrorism effect to have all those parents pick up their kids and take the day off or make other arrangements.

They better start arresting people and quit playing in ponds.

henry

The John Doe loses it's "bipartisan" cover. Remaing DAs, GAB tossed under bus by two Republican DAs that claim the GAB and Chisolm were running things. Nobody still pushing this but the lefties: Dem DAs, Dem GAB staff, and the Dem mouthpiece the Urinal Central.

Miss Marple 2

TK,

This guy who is the head of the schools seems to me to be doing the maximum he can and also seems to me to be really, really concerned.

Miss Marple 2

Troy Ellison ‏@TroyBlayne 8m8 minutes ago

@ericbolling @FoxNews This is an admission and proves they can't guarantee the safety of our children in gun free zones without security.

Jeff Dobbs

TM's quote:

These maps look nothing alike. Their big differences are forcing health experts to rethink what they know about health costs in Bridgeport, Conn. and across the country.

Hah! Mine says the exact thing, but has Greensboro rather than Bridgeport.




The article gets written based upon your location?



Clever.

James D

I wonder if the threat itself IS the attack. This time, at least.

Cause a huge mobilization of law enforcement recources, freak out hundreds of thousands of kids and parents, with very little risk or investment or resources. Because they have to respond as they did.

The aim could be just to induce fear. But it could also be to produce a "boy who cried wolf" effect by causing people to become more careless of threats after 2 or 3 or 5 "imminent attacks" that don't actually happen. Get them to let their guard down, so when the real attack does take place, it'll be that much worse.

Rick Ballard

I don't want to spoil the impact of this tremendous discovery of the bleeding obvious by the NYT but the data provided by three (actually two now) private insurers must be taken with a salt mine grain of salt. Aetna/Humana and UnitedHealthCare do have about 14% of the insurance market but Blue Cross/Shield wields a bigger stick in many markets and while the gruber who manufactured the survey results may be "reassured by the results" of his "checks" I find his reassurance to be lacking as comfort food.

Rick Ballard

Hit,

I noticed that - propaganda tuned to location. I wonder if the NYT is using the OFA app under license?

Jeff Dobbs

"What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy"
-- stuff Obama said, press conference, November 14, 2013

The Infamous Ignatz

A hunter in Missouri found a cache of explosives in Mark Twain Natl Forest in October.
It was destroyed but nothing too much thought about it until all those cell phones and propane tank deals scattered across the same state.
Wonder how many undiscovered caches there are.

Dave (in MA)

Threadkiller | December 15, 2015 at 10:13 AM, don't be silly. They're not brown people.

Jeff Dobbs

BTW - so far no discernible FBI/Homeland Security cessna's circling around L.A. that I can find.

Did watch the local Fox helicopter hovering around a few schools south of downtown, and then head up toward the Northridge area.

County Sheriff copter now heading up 710 toward downtown.

JMHanes

JamesD:

That was my first reaction too. If it were terrorists actually wanting to kill people, they wouldn't be issuing a warning. They'd wait till the bombs went off, and then claim the credit.

I can see terrorist sympathizers wanting to cause disruption and panic on the cheap, or possibly wanting to suss out the nature of the response, in order to plan something in the future.
I can also see a bunch of teenagers doing stupid teenage stuff.

The calculus changes, if the "threat" was reported by someone who had seen/heard something suspicious.

The rock/hard place is that the schools obviously have to respond. Such is the nature of asymmetric warfare.

JMHanes

You're on a real graphic roll today, Jeff! Loved your Look Squirrel, too.

Old Lurker

"Did watch the local Fox helicopter "

Any white Broncos spotted?

Jeff Dobbs

Heh, JMH - I'm going green....recycling past p-shops.

James D

JMH @ 11:00

I always wonder whether our security and law enforcement actually is a lot better than we imagine, or if the bad guys just aren't trying as hard as we think they are.

JMHanes

Jeff:

What a great way for me to catch up on what I've been missing, then.

Jeff Dobbs

Ok, really odd coincidence.

This is the LA County Sheriff copter. Look at the street name over on the right...


jimmyk on iPhone

"I can see terrorist sympathizers wanting to cause disruption and panic on the cheap,"

Or the 'warning' is a diversion. Anyone see Homeland Monday night?

Threadkiller

Will The Gay Patriot be as pissed at the electronic terrorist for hogging the news cycle as he was at Trump?

Rick Ballard

This Bloomberg piece on the plunge in the Baltic Dry Index closes with a real keeper of a quote as we watch market levitation continue to year end.

At the end of last year, shipping analysts forecast rates for Capesize-class vessels would jump by about a third in 2015. By the start of this month, they were expecting a decline of about that magnitude.

JMHanes

jimmyk:

I'm a season behind on Homeland -- I always wait till the end so I can watch marathon style, but then forget to do it.

Via Instapundit, from ABC:

A law enforcement official says the threat that closed all schools in the vast Los Angeles Unified School District was emailed to a school board member and appeared to come from overseas.
The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly about the investigation. The official says the threat was sent late Monday.
While the overseas origin certainly adds a twist, I always wonder about these anonymous officials, putatively talking out of school. How many such stooges must there be in every police department, prosecutor's office, or whatever investigation, if all the info we supposedly get this way comes from truly sub rosa "leaks?" Does every reporter have his own "confidential informant," or do they all use the same guy? Do we ever hear about anybody getting reprimanded for bean spilling?

Jane

"That was my first reaction too. If it were terrorists actually wanting to kill people, they wouldn't be issuing a warning. They'd wait till the bombs went off, and then claim the credit."

Or it could be a set up for an attack elsewhere. Get law enforcement very busy then hit a mall, or someplace busy.

Threadkiller
Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump

.@megynkelly, the most overrated anchor at @FoxNews, worked hard to explain away the new Monmouth poll 41 to 14 or 27 pt lead. She said 15!

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump

.@megynkelly is very bad at math. She was totally unable to figure out the difference between me and Cruz in the new Monmouth Poll 41to14.

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump

I wonder if @megynkelly and her flunkies have written their scripts yet about my debate performance tonight. No matter how well I do - bad!

What is Trump's IQ?

JMHanes

Wow, TK! You can really hold a grudge!

Old Lurker

Catherine Herridge, again:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/12/15/sources-review-affirms-clinton-server-emails-were-top-secret-despite-department-challenge.html?intcmp=hpbt3

henry

Trump's IQ? Same as Bozo's. **unknown**

Miss Marple 2

All they said in the press conference was that it was an "electronic threat."

Now, it could have been an e-mail if it was kids, in which case they will find them pretty quick.

However, if it was an intercepted text or communication on a web site, it was NOT an announcement in advance and this is why it is a "credible threat."

AP saying it was an email originating overseas just now.

Overseas means they took it as credible, maybe an ISIS guy with a conscience. (Fox acts like they don't know how it could be determined to be from overseas, which is ok with me as I discovered many people, including a certain husband of mine, do not know you can trace IP numbers to places of origin.)

Threat to one board member. Now they are saying it isn't credible. (I wonder if that is due to pressure from above.)

Threadkiller

Wow, TK! You can really hold a grudge!

The IQ comment was harmless ribbing playing off of daddy's Imus link.

I really am curious, JMH, what made my comment look like grudge speak?

I am trying to keep it toned down as much as possible anymore, and I didn't think I went overboard with that one.

I didn't even use my pet name for Megyn.

Threadkiller

Ahhh.. the Gay Patriot comment.

You got me there.

:-)

The Infamous Ignatz

Probably already linked but Mark Steyn on Barry celebrating a deserter in the Rose Garden.

JMHanes

TK: Prolly should have added a smiley myself. :-)

Paula

Trump' s IQ... http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2015/08/donald-trump-is-a-genius-but-thats-just-his-iq-3038790.html

The Infamous Ignatz

Wretchard's latest;
on the widening and deepening mess in the ME and North Africa.

The crisis facing the West is at rock bottom a principal-agent problem. The political elites no longer represent anyone but themselves. So far, whoever loses, they win. They will avoid challenging the status quo unless they absolutely have to.

henry

Paula, 3rd party inferral does not equal **known** IQ.

Threadkiller

My lovely wife solves the school shutdown.

Her theory is that the superintendent knew that the "threat" would slowly, but surely, start leaking up and down the normal channels. When that happened, parents would start leaving work and arriving at the various schools demanding their kids to the surprise of the uniformed secretaries.

To avoid the chaos of an all day run on the schools and all the versions of Black Friday at Walmart that would play out in 1000 parking lots, the powers that be decided to shut it down before it started.

henry

That makes sense TK

Paula

Henry, I know. It was all I could find.

Threadkiller

My wife is the smart one, henry.

:-)

JMHanes

Old Lurker:

This bit from your Catherine Herridge link is certainly damning:

The sources, who were not authorized to speak on the record, told Fox News that while the emails were indeed “top secret” when they hit Clinton’s server, one of them remains “top secret” to this day -- and must be handled at the highest security level. The second email is still considered classified but at the lower “secret” level because more information is publicly available about the event.
Even putting the questions of criminality and lamentable judgment, one of the things that has surprised me the most is the sheer amateurishness of the whole mess. The Clintons are floating in a fortune of slush, and could certainly afford a state-of-the-art security installation -- it's not like Hillary isn't the secretive, paranoid type. Surely, she had to know that even (if not especially) her putatively personal communications could be incredibly damaging in the wrong hands, too. If nothing else, I would not have guessed that she might actually be that stupid.

henry

Paula. no surprise. In many ways Trump is as much myth as man, as is Obama. Behind the curtain on either is ???

Threadkiller

As near as I can tell, there are 800,000 to 1,000,000 students in the district.

Are they considered truant if the school locks their doors?

I hope the Malls are ready.

Eric in Boise

All of L.A. schools shut down? That's rough. The kiddos are gonna fall behind on their Spanish vocab.

clarice

JMH, sometimes the unauthorized leaks are actually authorized to spread a tale; sometimes they really are unauthorized. Yes, most beat reporters--are there any left--cultivate their own sources. The NYT used to have a feature called Man of the Week or something where they fluffered up some official. I always considered the motw a likely source for many of the unauthorized leaks to the paper.

boris

"I would not have guessed that she might actually be that stupid"

I think we are supposed to pretend people on that side are smarter than they really are and in return they are supposed to pretend people on our side are dumber than they really are.

lyle

JMH,

Your point about Hilligula's sloppiness and amateurism re the emails is spot on. I posited several months ago that she simply got lazy. And that is usually whats leads your typical grifter to get caught. Any con man knows this. With Cankles, toss in industrial strength hubris and, et voila, here we are.

Miss Marple 2

TK,

It sounds to me like your wife is right. On Fox they said that the LAPD was notified, got in contact with the NYPD and FBI, and they came back after investigating and said that they didn't deem the threat credible.

I think the LA schools guy made the right call, both because of what you said (chaos all day from panicy parents) and also because there is pressure from the White House to NOT callsomething terrorism, so I think maybe there is a littlelack of confidence in the FBI. (At least thereis on my part, and I am not in charge of the safety of 800,000 schools.) He is having the schools gone over, anyway, to look for abandoned back packs and such.

Miss Marple 2

800,000 kids I meant, not schools.

jimmyk

The Clintons are floating in a fortune of slush, and could certainly afford a state-of-the-art security installation

But in addition to being flush with money, they are cheapskates. These are the same cretins that took tax deductions on used underwear donations, and tried to make off with tens of thousands of dollars of goods from the WH. It would be great karma if that stinginess were their undoing.

Rick Ballard

" If nothing else, I would not have guessed that she might actually be that stupid."

Why? If we follow the slime trail back to her first performance with the Watergate Committee, which resulted in her being fired for tone deaf incompetence coupled with absence of ethics, there is very little to suggest she possesses more intelligence than that required to regurgitate Alinsky. I believe her to be no more intelligent than the President and she insists upon organ grinders possessing far less skill than those who propped Obama.

lyle

http://thefederalist.com/2015/12/10/know-your-tropes-for-exploiting-terrorism/

clarice

Whoa!! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/hackers-trace-isis-twitter-accounts-7010417

UK welfare employees appear to have ISIS twitter accounts.

squaredance

IR: I think it goes beyond that:

1) There is a segment of the Nonmeklatura in their "political executive branch" which though is titularly "in charge" really is incapable of dealing with any of this, or perhaps dealing with anything other than self aggrandizement and posturing, and they know it.

This group has managed to cover this weakness for some time, but it increasingly is becoming apparent that their incompetence will br grossly exposed.

So they are are on the horns of a dilemma: a) act and be shown to be the fools they are, or b) do not act and look as equally foolish.

At the moment they are short-circiting, and as people do, they are clinging to their past rhetoric, ideology and puffery--in short, the status quo. This cannot continue much longer of there are more attacks on US citizens on US soil.

There is a second group though, and these are the hard core communist actors and operators who in real and concrete terms actively work to destroy us. They of course do not for one second wish to maintain anything: they seek the collapse of our nation, society, culture and civilization--even the destruction of the White race.

Those who really benefit from that so-called "Status quo are the opportunists and clients in the Nomeklatura that would lose their livelihood should the whole thing com crashing down.

It is really the second group, the hard core communist operators that are manipulating the other groups.

The Obama administration looks for all the world like a slow motion, softer version of the Leninist take over of Russia at the end of WW1. They are close to closure now, and if Hillary gets in, then that will seal our fate.

But the opportunist that are driven before this group in the political classes and the nomenklatura will be in for a rude awakening once the in Party takes control. Then it will be not a matter of protests, dirty politics and biased media; people will be hauled away in the middle of the night and die on the floor of of a basement dungeon.

Most of the Left outside the center of the inner party have absolutely no idea of they world that are trying to birth. They are in for the shock of their lives.

Old Lurker

Even if she had wanted a super duper secured facility, which she did not, it would have had to be approved by somebody, and I suspect that would have involved features that would have defeated her actual intent to control this stuff.

squaredance

Oh my goodness, Hillary's block in Westchester is chuck full of upper level NYC financial people whose firms have some of the best technology in the world and just incredible human resources. She could have asked her neighbors for help.

The truth is that she is not really all that bright--and she probably was half drunk the whole time. I keep asserting this: the whole lot of them are lacking in real intelligence, talent or competence. They are mere clever, clever in conning and stealing their way into power.

That is what is really sad: we have allowed ourselves to be ruled--and thus ruined--by such meager, ridiculous people.

In termed of intellect Hillary is little different than someone like Kerry.

If one pauses to ponder that State has been under the rule of such mental midgets for quite a few years now, it is no wonder that we are facing the world that we are facing.

lyle

http://freebeacon.com/politics/chappaquiddick-producer-viewers-will-see-what-ted-kennedy-had-to-go-through/

You knew this was bound to happen, right? RIGHT?

James D

I saw that yesterday, lyle.

Just thinking about it makes me wish for the full French Revolution experience. Mass slaughter, rivers of blood in the street, indiscriminate terror, national collapse - as long as I get to watch a majority of our politicians, MSM jackals and Hollywood execs led to the guillotine first.

lyle

James D, our American Robespierre for the 21st century. :)

James D

Do you think I could put that on my business cards?

Depressing thought, though - how many people would even understand what it meant?

Old Lurker

Those who do not, James, should go to the front of your line, OK?

lyle

Hinderaker at Powerline reminds of the facts:

The facts are much worse than most people realize: Kennedy presumably was drunk, but that is the least of it. After his car plunged into Poucha Pond, Kennedy saved himself but left Mary Jo Kopechne to die. In all likelihood, she could have been saved if Kennedy had simply knocked on the door of the nearest house with a light on, only yards away, and called the Edgartown rescue squad. That is what the head of the rescue squad said after he discovered Kopechne’s body inside the car, where she had wedged herself into an air pocket and probably survived for several hours, expecting help that never came.

Kennedy made no effort to save his companion. Instead, he made the long walk back to the house where he and others had been partying. He summoned his cousin Joe Gargan and tried to persuade Gargan to say that he had been driving the car. Gargan sensibly refused, but insisted that they go back to the pond and try to rescue Kopechne. Kennedy sat on the bank and watched while Gargan tried to dive down to the submerged car, unsuccessfully. Kennedy never did call the authorities, but instead returned to his hotel and attempted to set up an alibi with the night clerk.

...

Kennedy’s own “moral compass” was so inadequate that he left Kopechne to die, tried to persuade his cousin to take the rap, and attempted to create an alibi by repeatedly leaving his hotel room and commenting pointedly on the time to his hotel’s night clerk. Then he attended Kopechne’s funeral wearing a neck brace to fool the public into thinking that he had been injured in the accident. Great moral compass!

Buckeye

"as long as I get to watch a majority of our politicians, MSM jackals and Hollywood execs led to the guillotine first."

Don't forget bureaucrats and congressional staffers.

James D

OL @ 1:12

Good point. But it's a really long line already. As Buckeye just pointed out, I forgot to add bureaucrats and staffers. And I also forgot Eagles fans (although in their case it would be more mercy killing than anything else)

NK

JamesD-- too funny!
congrats on the Giants winning a game. But they are not very good. Tony Whatzhizname on ESPN made a good point. Beyond Manning and Beckham Jr, who are the Giants stars/playmakers? That is a real indictment of Reece seems to me.

boris

"if she had wanted a super duper secured facility [] that would have involved features [contrary to] her actual intent to control ..."

(Excuse the edits)

I think that is close to the mark.

Since she is the smartest person on the planet why would she want to hand over control of her master-spy intel project to untrustworthy "experts". After all, how hard can it be?

clarice

Thomas Lipscomb contends that Ted left with another woman and didnt know Mary Jo was sleeping in the bavk seat as the two of them exited the car. One of his arguments is that MaryJo left her purse behind and no woman would do that..He has other stronger basis for his argument.

maryrose

Hillary is toast
Petraeus did not have super top secret info and he was indicted
Why should Hil get special treatment?
I watch all debates to keep informed

NK

Lyle-- thanks for the reminder about Ted, what a prick he was. He's in Hell.... with his dad, who was even worse.

James D.

NK @ 1:20

Totally an indictment of Reese. The problems are 100% on him. There ARE no other playmakers. Gruden said it best last night:

"manning, Beckhan, and a bunch of guys off the side of the road."

narciso

we're in the hands of top men,

http://freebeacon.com/issues/trey-gowdy-grills-dhs-official-on-due-process-gun-rights/

JMHanes

For some reason, Wretchard's "next emergency," in the article Ignatz linked, reminds me of the EU-speak "situation in Poland." We gotcher "principal-agent" problem right thar.

narciso

this was the bit of godwin, that prompted my comment

http://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/12/donald_trumps_actions_revive_m.html

lyle

Hillary is toast

God bless you, maryrose, but you are egregiously mistaken. See, you and--dare I say all?--of us here, rightly adhere to the notions of lawfullness, fair play, and integrity. These notions are increasingly considered quaint and passé in this country. Even more so in Clintoon cuntry.

lyle

Oops.

Old Lurker

I saw what you did there, Lyle.

The Infamous Ignatz

--Ted left with another woman and didnt know Mary Jo was sleeping in the bavk seat as the two of them exited the car--

Didn't he later claim he tried valiantly to rescue her?
How would Gargan have known to go back and try to rescue her?

Occam's razor always cuts to "they're worse than you could possibly believe" where the Kennedy's are concerned.

James D

One more Giants comment, and I'm dead serious about this.

Coughlin should win Coach of the year, and it it shouldn't even be a close vote. Even taking into account the playcalling and clock-management blunders.

There's not another coach in the NFL, except possibly Belichek, who would even have eked out three wins so far with the talent Coughlin's got to work with. And he has them with a chance at the playoffs.

narciso

Um, it was called Ellis Island, also the Freedom Tower, down south:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/245589-obama-illegal-immigration-americas-oldest-tradition/

danoso

JmaesD - Gotta admit, that's could bring a humorous scenario -- Coach of the Year and fired in the same season.

The Infamous Ignatz

Conrad Black on Donald Trump; He kinda likes him.
They are old friends but he makes an interesting case for Trump's positions, many of which I have not heard before.

danoso

JamesD ... spelling

James D

I don't think they will fire him, danoso. They are really, really slow to fire anybody, and I think they're happy with both coordinators, so how do you bring in a new coach but tell him he has to run last year's system and he can't pick his own staff?

If either Spagunolo or McAdoo were ready to be a head coach, I could see them going that rount, but from everything I've read, the Giants don't think either of them are quite there yet.

I think Coughlin sticks around for 1 or maybe 2 more years, and then if they feel confident in one of them, he retires more or less gracefully and they promote one of the coordinators.

Frau Schicksal

Grit yer teeth and think of England:
Hillary! will not be toast. The cadaver will be hot wired to move until the votes are counted and one of the San Antonio Red Diaper Twins takes over. It's kismet...

Threadkiller
They started by mocking Trump; and his preoccupation with unserious matters, such as where the president was born, made that simple. But Trump’s durability now scares them. 

If it was simple, he would have been dispatched way back then.

What scares everybody is that the same polls that show Trump is now durable also showed that the BC matter was serious to a large block of Americans.

henry

not the 1% again. ;)

Old Lurker

Good link, thanks Iggy.

JMHanes

"Shortest Climate Agreement Honeymoon Ever?" at Watts Up links to a Guardian article on the Paris Agreement, and concludes that:

[T]he only real achievement of the new climate agreement, is perpetuity of employment for the climate conference class – an agreement for regular “reviews”, to ensure our jetset climate heroes don’t run short of conferences to attend.
If it weren't for that massive fly in the Paris ointment, I might be willing to celebrate the meaningless outcome, myself.

Meanwhile, when it comes to bona fide treaty obligations, Obama pivoted to Asia, briefly, the other day -- which is not to say, as I've suggested before, that this is unrelated news:

The notification to Congress will be the first arms sale to Taiwan in four years and comes amid growing congressional pressure on the White House to do more to assist Taiwan.…

The Obama administration, fearful of upsetting Beijing, rejected offering Taiwan new and more modern F-16 jets in the arms package. The Taiwanese military has sought the new jets for years to replace aging F-16s in its arsenal.

I'll score it as a marginal success for the "public shaming" mechanism.

narciso

unfortunately, JM, I think the skydragon must be appeased, remember the Chicago Climate Exchange,
'brought to you by some of the same players that
gave us the housing bubble'

Birfer Geenus

"What's Trump's IQ?"

About ten billion.

What's yours?

NK

JMH-- So True: the perpetual Climate Crony Feeding Frenzy, when the UK Guardian calls you out on it, you know its true. Of course the UK Guardian editors actually believe in the post-Christian Skydragon fantasy and believe that the Crony Class are traitors to the cause, still at least they know the cronies (like Kerry, Gore, Musk et al) are all frauds.

Threadkiller

Pretty funny, Burping Penis.

NK

From Insty. I have fundamental disagreements on many things with C Paglia, but I love her to death. She is an honest Lefty, almost unique in that regard:http://www.spiked-online.com/spiked-review/article/feminist-trouble#.VnBr1tIrJmO

JMHanes

NK: Ditto yours on Paglia.

narciso: Yeah, the carbon "exchanges" (just noted the irony there) are yet another totally debunked scam that just cannot be killed. Too much money to be made, by the likes of Gore & Ilk.

narciso

she seems to reserve her real fury for Taylor Swift

http://www.steynonline.com/7365/celebrating-a-deserter-in-the-rose-garden

there are some genuine surprises in the world.

it's eerie how they came upon my little spot of Tattoine

Jeff Dobbs

James:
Coughlin should win Coach of the year, and it it shouldn't even be a close vote.

While we're at it maybe we should consider Romo for MVP.

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