Layers Of Factcheckers Link To... Well, An Onion Rival

The NY Times editors, in their crusade against guns, will be linking for support to The Onion any day now.

But for now we have to settle for what they have given us (but do note the correction four months later): I am not sure how to preserve it; a screen shot won't capture the linked URL. But let's have the setup and Punchline:

An Opening for States to Restrict Guns

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD  DEC. 9, 2015

To listen to the insistent harangues of many gun-rights advocates, one might imagine that the Second Amendment prohibits almost any regulation of firearms.

Fortunately, a majority of the Supreme Court disagrees. On Monday, the court declined to hear a challenge to a Chicago suburb’s law banning semiautomatic assault weapons and magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

As a result, our glorious Federal system allows states and cities to seize the day, or even your guns:

Such efforts, while piecemeal, are critically important steps toward a safer country. States and cities have passed laws restricting or banning certain types of weapons, magazines and ammunition, and prohibiting certain classes of people, like those convicted of stalking or multiple instances of drunken driving, from possessing guns. Some have also imposed universal background checks and safe-storage requirements on gun owners.

That is a lot of links so you know they have done their homework. Or at least, their Googling. Too bad they left common sense at the door with their "ammunition" link, which leads to this site:

Is it true - did our nation's largest state sneak an ammunition ban past everyone?

Well, not per Snopes:

As .45 ACP ammunition is enormously popular, the article immediately caused a furor in gun and ammunition forums and on social media.

Some were taken in initially, particularly since the article was also published under the now-suspended spoof web address NYTimes.com.co, but commenters quickly discovered that the story was a hoax.

NationalReport.net is a satire site. Its disclaimer page reads:

I don't want to know what the disclaimer reads (although I peeked and its funny); why should I be better informed than Times editors?

But I'll pass along a pro tip - when I encounter a source with which I am utterly unfamiliar delivering news I have heard nowhere else, I try to remember to check the front page:

 I wonder if any of those headlines might have served as clues...

 

THIS ONE FOR THEM HOOD GIRLS. AND TECHIES: Screenshots just in case, or Mistrust but verify.

 

CORRECTED: Now appended:

 

Correction: April 11, 2016

An earlier version of this editorial contained an erroneous link for state efforts to restrict certain types of ammunition. The link has been corrected.

Comments

[henry]

Nice catch TM!

[boatbuilder, Esq., Lord of All He Surveys]

But...Politifact says "mostly true."

Well, they will. Because California does want to ban some types of ammunition.

[lyle]

Bet not a one of the hacks at NYT knows what "ACP" even means or even cares. Ignorance about such things is a badge of honor to the bien-pensant in Manhattan.

[Threadkiller]

Ak-47 high
Capacity
Projectile

[henry]

American
Caucasian
Patriarchy

the root cause of all world evil

[Jack is Back! (On Alert!)]

Damn it. Everytime I post on a thread there is a new one. So, I'll just repost this one here.

http://gothamist.com/2015/12/11/nypd_warns_bad_santas_will_be_arres.php

Finally, the NYPD is doing somthing about this outrageous assault on our values.

[Jack is Back! (On Alert!)]

Ah, ha! Progress?

Christopher Soghoian ‏@csoghoian 7m7 minutes ago
Christopher Soghoian Retweeted Josh Gerstein
The FBI has confiscated the emails of the State Dept aide who setup Secretary Clinton's private server.

[henry]

Ah, the Senate Committee subpoenaed that server. And the guy took the 5th (not the 5th that bad Santa drank), so the are looking into giving him immunity and compelling him to testify.

[Rick Ballard]

But - this time it's different.

I hadn't seen the Robert Louis Stevenson quote before.

[Jack is Back! (On Alert!)]

RB,

Have you picked your date where the SHTF? I think its right before the NH primary. Perfect timing.

[lyle]

Great RLS quote.

[NK]

henry-- check with our ChiTown friend if this means Obummer/OFA are looking to settle all Leftist Affairs like Michael Corleone did in Godfather, by decapittaing the Clintonista Family.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Weird. I just read that Stevenson quote somewhere else for the first time a few days ago. Now here it is again.

[henry]

NK, as I understand the CLU perspective, it comes down to who holds more FBI files on whom.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Roger Simon;
How Trump can win the general election.
Fair warning; PJ Media comments sections are now grease traps.

[Miss Marple 2]

Ignatz,

I often wonder about how obscure things suddenly show up everywhere. It's not just the internet, either.

Back in the 80's no one had ever heard of Gilbert and Sullivan. Suddenly, their music was in movies (Chariots of Fire), on TV (some British series I can't remember the name of) and Linda Ronstadt made an album.

I never forgot that, because it seemed so odd to me.

[narciso]

the problem is they are all ikwan organizations that are involved.

http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2015/12/11/muslim-americans-search-for-political-voice/

[narciso]

I know the discus releases the strigoi:

https://pjmedia.com/blog/glenn-greenwald-of-the-intercept-throws-a-hail-mary-against-pj-media

[narciso]

speaking of fact checking, mark reibling who wrote that very interesting analysis of fb1/cia frictions, has a new tome about the Vatican's intelligence networks against the nazis, directed by Pope Pius,

[narciso]

a look who was behind it, the recruiter who picked the third suicide bomber,

http://www.lemessager.fr/genevois/arrestations-de-deux-syriens-a-geneve-des-traces-ia928b929n153894

[Jojo]

livestream link - starts in about half an hour

http://thesilentmajorityhasrisen.com/index.php/2015/12/04/donald-trump-rally-in-des-moines-iowa-12-11-15/

[Buckeye]

Of course Nina Easton and Dr.K. are taking swipes at Trump for his muzzie proclamation. Sounds more like wishful thinking.

[matt]

Freeze Santa! Hands up against the sleigh! Now!

[Threadkiller]

Everytime I post on a thread there is a new one. So, I'll just repost this one here

So true. :-)

I'll join you.
Ig, I won't be around too much tomorrow so I will wish you well on your birthday now.

Happy day before your Birthday!!

You are good company on these threads and our emails as well.

[narciso]

and the opposite of fact checker,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/hang-him-high-traitor-bowe-bergdahl-deserted-his-platoon-now-hes-smearing-them/

preemptive happy birthday iggy.

[Captain Hate]

Mrs. H had NBC Nightly Snooze on and it started out with hair on fire about Trump and showing some boozy scullery hag on SNL. West 50th Street has a lot of lampposts, no?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

As improbable as I thought it a few months ago, the MFM may hair-on-fire Trump right into the WH.

[Rick Ballard]

JiB,

No, I don't have a date picked. The 'graceful failure' has begun but there is no widespread acknowledgement of the certainty of governmental defaults in Venezuela, Brazil and Mexico as well all the shadow banking defaults which have already begun in China.

There is still, after seven years of ZIRP, a refusal to recognize the current situation as being unsustainable.

[narciso]

btw the way Childhood's end, will start monday at 8
on Syfy, not 9, followed by another series, the Expanse, which is a far future, sci fi noir,

[Captain Hate]

Bergdahl was swiftboated by his platoon mates; they told the unvarnished truth about him.

[narciso]

so many shin splits from 'jumping to conclusions' re Trump's part in the race,

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/12/11/clueless-dhs-official-has-no-answers-on-immigration-so-flustered-calls-k1-visa-program-ky-283178?hvid=4bAGvX

[maryrose]

Pagar
The Clintons like Bama have an over inflated idea of their greatness so that being late becomes a fashion statement
In reality it is inconsiderate and rude

[Threadkiller]

Thanks for that link, narciso. This looks like a job for a new czar.

[narciso]

you already have his boat, and own a piece of his hotels,

http://twitchy.com/2015/12/11/you-are-a-disgrace-billionaire-saudi-prince-tells-realdonaldtrump-to-drop-out-of-the-presidential-race/

[narciso]

good question:

http://therightscoop.com/zonation-hey-obama-why-are-people-on-the-no-fly-list-still-in-our-country/

[Threadkiller]

https://mcclintock.house.gov/newsroom/speeches/armed-americans-are-the-best-defense-against-armed-terrorists

[Miss Marple 2]

narciso,

I figure that Tweet is worth about 5 points in the polls.

If nothing else, Trump's campaign is supreme entertainment!

[Social mania, like bubbles, pop. Or is it 'manias'?]

Well, hey! Barney.

I like the middle quote by Aldous Huxley and had never heard it before. Failing history, we endure another extraordinarily alarmist popular delusion and madness of the catastrophic crowd.

[Shhh, gossip.]

Ding dong the merry bells knell, but don't tell, in the dell.

[Don't wanna win that way.]

Sadly, now that Obama has manifested his madness in the climate change/Islamic terrorism schism, the more terrorism, the more mad he will seem.

[Cecil Turner]

Get these babies while they're still available:

[Oh, yeah, and sick, sick, sick money.]

One thing people miss about Trump is that he is not a stand-up comic, and endeavors to not be too clownish to be taken seriously, but humour is a huge part of his campaign. He invokes grins and merriment, and it is because he is willing to show us what fools our political elite has become, thanks largely to an enslaved press.

[Hmmm. Both fit.]

Time out. 'evokes'. I know the difference.

[narciso]

the prince was a big player behind twitter indeed,

the problem is too many in the media, 'fear the reaper' I mean the skydragon,

[clarice]

Greenwald was more fun when he was inventing sock puppets to promote his own work.

[clarice]

Happy Birthday, Iggie--let me be one of the first.

I'm at a loss for this week's column. Ideas for topic gladly accepted.

T M has truly worn me out .

[Frau Krokodil]

"The FBI has confiscated the emails of the State Dept aide who setup Secretary Clinton's private server. "

Call me cynical; after looking at the emails, it will mean nothing except that the FBI has "done its job." Move along...

[A la Modi.]

You know me, c.

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

How about something completely off the usual path?

How to find clothing if you're over 40, and why is this so hard?

Expectations of children for holiday cooking, which they DO NOT DO.

Why Obama has two dogs but really doesn't like them

[Threadkiller]

Ideas for topic gladly accepted.

I have a couple.

:-)

Just kidding, clarice.

[And you all please pardon for the wearisome corrections. Gotta get the grammar right.]

'have become'. Sorry, Ma.

[henry]

You could write about Mooch's idiotic thesis and make work career in the private sector as evidence she was a mismatch at Princeton.

[Threadkiller]

Trump says, while discussing his own faith, "I like Ted Cruz, I like him a lot! Not many evangelicals come out Cuba, but I do like Cruz a lot."

Soopermexican* will have a fit.

*not what you think, if you don't already know.

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

Another thing (which henry's post reminded me of) is how the Obamas deliberately act classless.

Examples:

Michelle's rap video
Michelle's clothing
Obama's vulgar trash talk
Obama doing the middle finger thing
Not paying attention to protocol
Opulent travel and spending
Inviting low-class music and Hollywood people to White House

[We could do worse.]

You watch, those two will fight through the primaries, then join.

Executive and Operator.

[narciso]

well she's like another fictional chicago resident at the time, joel godson, a conman from the burbs
(cruise's role in risky business)

[In dreams, speaking of Roy Orbison.]

Contested, and second roll call.

[narciso]

wasn't that bob seger,

[daddy]

TM,

I didn't hear what you said above about "Layer's of Factcheckers," because I had these HuffPo Reporter bullets in my ears:

[Frau Krokodil]

Clarice sez: "T M has truly worn me out ."

I wonder how Mrs. T M is holding up. Has our host tried chamomile tea?

[clarice]

Thanks. I usually like to write about current stories--this week's were the terror attack in Ca, the SCOTUS argument on AA, the Trump phenom, the rumor about a brokered convention. But all of these seem to have been well-covered by now.
It's a dilemma.

BTW did you see the president has signed into law some nice gun stuff https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2015/12/10/president-obama-signs-three-constructive-gun-measures/

[In one, in the other.]

Heh, you had 'em coming from both sides, eh, daddy?

[daddy]

The FBI has confiscated the emails of the State Dept aide who setup Secretary Clinton's private server.

Who's hard drive are they looking for in that lake?

[narciso]

well there's the innatentive flying reindeer stuck on those melting iceflows, those folk should be fed to Tasmanian devils, the wit and wisdom of Jose Canseco, caution rocket surgery at work,

[Whither Fiorina?]

Speaking of rock it surgery, Ben Carson for Surgeon-General, or Press Secretary, or both.

[narciso]

he thinks we can drown mars, by nuking their ice caps,

[daddy]

I guess I could stand to lose a few pounds.

[Why the sneering at carbon bio-engineering?]

It could be, it might be, it is! A run home for the Mars bars.

[I've got the study designed, already. Now fund me.]

I think I've had tequila give me the shits, but I'll be agavined if I was drinking from the fountain of eternal truth.

[Threadkiller]

Trump just had the owner of this company on stage.

http://www.brownells.com/

[narciso]

one of the commenters points out it's the agavins, which aren't in the finished product, but one is welcome to conduct more field research,

[Threadkiller]

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/general/About_Brownells.aspx

[Stephanie]

Clarice, you could write about the similarity of the campus movements to the phenomena of the Ugly American. Both leave home and demand the place they go to conform to their dictates. Both are definitely not fans of the adage 'When in Rome.'

I've been tossing a posting about this around since my last solo car drive to Biloxi. Lot of time to highlight and cure the ills of the world when you are talking to yourself for six hours. :)

[boris]

Clarice, Cecil had a good comparison between Obama;s "must act now" when he was sure a bitter clinger was the shooter and "beware of backlash" when it turned out to be Islamic.

Seems like there have been several appearances of the man behind the curtain no one is supposed to notice and emperor sans apparel this week.

[narciso]

the horde brought an observation from John Kass, to attention, Obama has spoken practically nothing about the MacDonald case,

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-goodfellas-1449877685

Some of the construction people he used were tiedto the mob. Of course, everyone else used them too, because they controlled the industry.

My favorite comment:

"To the Opinion Writer: Is this part of that plan by the old elite republicans to destroy Trump? Dream this up in a cigar smoke filled room while sipping brandy at the Harvard Club, did you? I can hear them; "That's it Eureka! We can link him to the mob." That should do it even though everything else has failed so far.

Mr. Opinion Man: this is so pathetic. You want someone like "John Boy" Rubio. Great! His father was a bartender. And he's been on a some Senate committee and learned a whole bunch in 2 or 3 years. Yep. That should trump Donald's a long successful business career of actually building something, or rather many things. Always getting the job done. Managing billions of dollars and thousands of employees and really building America.

Shameful to try to tar him with the Mafia brush. Like all the other attempts this should fail because we (the people) see right through it."

[daddy]

I'm at a loss for this week's column. Ideas for topic gladly accepted.

The shortage of street lamps in DC.

[clarice]

In case you need it--$20 homemade shotgun:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQsp7vz4Cyc&feature=share

[Threadkiller]

LOL daddy!

[narciso]

then there's the aussie sandra fluke,

http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/equality_realised/

yes, that was the reality with Silvio at well, who had ties to the Christian Democrats as well as the Socialist party,

[Stephanie]

Daddy FTW!

[Jane]

Clarice,

How about how we should split the country in two.

[clarice]

Some really good ideas, thanks. I'm going to seek out Cecil's post.He always ge4ts whatever brain cells I have left, flickering.

[clarice]

boris, do you remember the thread it was on?

[narciso]

of course there was Steyn's Van Helsing impression,

http://www.steynonline.com/7353/too-big-to-bomb

[clarice]

There's an interesting story in today's NYT about how outside of Beijing they've built a city called "Jackson Hole" where they've reproduced large wooden houses that look like those in Wyoming which quotes Chinese residents saying they want to live like Americans in big houses with yards (and presumably in suburbs). This comes as we learn of a $50 million slush funds to communities around the country to establish dense housing and reduce private transportation.

Ironic enough for you guys?

[Miss Marple 2]

Pretty weird, Clarice.

A few months ago I read an article where the Chinese rural villages were dying - only populated by old people.

One had been revitalized by becoming a computer hub for shipping for on-line purchases.

Very surreal.

[narciso]

I missed that story, but seeing as they have modeled their experience on elements of our own history, the robber baron, both in Russia and China, was the only model of capitalism they knew,

[boris]

Just had it

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2015/12/are-we-winning-this-no-fly-debate.html?cid=6a00d83451b2aa69e201b8d182552d970c#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e201b8d182552d970c

[narciso]

that and the gangster, I forget which novel I read, set in Europe, where the protagonists took their names from 80s mobsters,

[clarice]

Thanks, Boris.

Here's the slush fund story:http://www.wired.com/2015/12/the-50-million-competition-to-remake-the-american-city/

[Miss Marple 2]

Here is one article about it, mostly started by Ali Baba:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2015/04/27/alibaba_s_jack_ma_how_the_richest_man_in_china_is_helping_chinese_farmers.html

[clarice]

Thanks, MM.

Seems to me the idea of urban clusters is an old fashioned idea based on life before the IT, not unusual for the left.

[narciso]

well it was the vision in Netropolis, the George Pal adaptation of Wells's far future tale, up until the original star wars,

[Room with a View.]

I called 'em cliffdwellers twenty-five years ago, c; but not to overwhelming approval.

[narciso]

Wells was awfully optimistic in some parts of his prophecy 'the Shape of Things to Come'

The abolition of Islam is carried out by the Air Police, who "descend upon Mecca and close down the main holy places", apparently without major incident. Eventually, Islam disappears, its demise accelerated by the decay of Arabic and its replacement by "an expanded English". Some twenty mosques survive, deemed to be worthy of preservation on architectural grounds. The Lebanese-American scholar George Nasser remarked on this aspect of Wells' book: "In the 1979 imagined by HG Wells, a self-appointed ruling elite composed mainly of Westerners, with one Chinese and one Black African and not a single Arab member, would establish itself in the Arab and Muslim city of Basra and calmly take the decision to completely extinguish and extirpate the Muslim religion... In the 1979 of real history, Khomeini's Islamic Republic of Iran came into being".[2][page needed]

[daddy]

Clarice,

I thought the points Mark Levin made at the beginning of Hour 2 of his Radio program today were excellent. He started by mentioning the story today about the un-Constitutionality of Obama's decision to have his staff whip up some new Gun-Control program so he could sign it and implement and damn the Constitution, yet there will be no mention by the MSM whatever of this being un-Constitutional. [(AP) Obama's Advisors are finalizing a proposal that would expand background checks on gun sales without Congressional Approval]

Levin contrasted the acquiescence to Obama's Un-Constitutionality with the continual 24/7 onslaught by the same MSM (and most of the Republicans) in damning Trump for his un-Constitutional comments re: Islamic Immigration.

My guess is you probably don't listen often to Levin, but if you are searching for ideas, simply click here on his program today, and when the show pops up in a small side window, expand that window and click on over to about the 37 minute, 30 second mark, and give his hour 2 opening rant about a 10 minute listen. 12/11/15 - Mark Levin Audio Rewind

I find Levin insightful and depressingly accurate, and I'm thinking more and more Americans find him that way every day as well.

[clarice]

Thanks, narciso..Some good ideas there.
Is it my imagination? I think most long standing urban centers arose organically--that is the routes for traffic and centers for work and living were developed over time by people using rational convenience as their guide. No one sat down with pen and paper and decided the layout of London or Paris.

[Jojo]

to Oh, yeah, and sick, sick, sick money ... your post about his humor, that was a really good observation.

[clarice]

I expect, the gun control program will not survive the first court challenge, daddy. In the meantime, he just signed into law (see my post above) three new provisions that expand gun use--i.e., forbidding EPA to ban lead bullets.