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January 08, 2016



typical, of course they move to Carlos Slim's like Haberman and Martin, and on to other venues,


pagar a bacon, ham and sausage supporter

JiB, @05:35 you are 100 % right. My guess that is why the Obama regime is so eager to get rid of the A-10s.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I don't think Cecil has questioned the effectiveness of the A-10.
He has questioned its survivability in a war zone more advanced than guerillas throwing rocks and RPGs at them.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

To be fair the AF has been trying to get rid of the A-10 for a long time prior to Barry.
I personally, considering the conditions we're likely to continue to encounter, think the A-10 should be kept operational and perhaps even transferred to the Army if the AF wants to dump em so bad.

Jack is Back (but On Alert)!


You mean the AF poltiical officers and commanders under the auspices of the Lockheed-Martin juggernaut v. the small office confines of Republic-Fairchild.

I think in this issue I have seen more of how the Defense-Industrial complex and political muscle works than most. Pathetic.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

OK JiB, but you gotta admit little ol' Fairchild still has their planes flying. :)


well what's a suitable replacement platform, for tank busting?

Cecil Turner

That bird and the Thunderbolt A-10 do more to protect ground forces than any other air asset no matter what Cecil will tell you.

If you define "ground forces" as US Army personnel, no argument. If you factor in the fact Marines never see 'em, then it's less compelling.

A dirty little secret is that the USMC provides far more air power per grunt than the Air Force provides to the Army. Hence the ongoing argument over whether "excess sorties" belong to the Marines or higher headquarters (note they never argue about "excess" AF sorties).

As to the merits of the A-10, it has survivability issues and is having the typical support costs associated with a plane that's getting long in the tooth. They probably ought to be retired in favor of a (Hellfire/TOW) missile platform, but their political popularity is such that is unlikely in the near term.

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