Rebooting 2016

Meanwhile, back in Oregon - protestors have taken over a Federal building on a federal forest in the middle of the great beyond. Naturally, progressives wonder why these hate-filled righties haven't been droned or sniped into submission. So much anger on the left.

My fave is this:

What if the Oregon Protesters Were Black or Muslim? Debate Ensues

Hmm, a federal building on federal land makes me think that the feds would be involved in any enforcement action. For another year, that means Obama and Loretta Lynch would be in charge of directing that response. Yet aggrieved libs tweet stuff like this:

Black people armed with signs: Arrested and beaten. White people armed with guns: Takes over govt bldgs #OregonUnderAttack #YallQaeda

— Brien Redmon (@BrienRedmon) Jan. 4, 2016

What a maroon. Although perhaps Obama would order an assault on black protestors and then off-handedly remark that "the police acted stupidly". I suppose that can't be ruled out, and it might energize low-information voters on the left, who would probably blame Donald Trump.

Comments

[Threadkiller]

http://www.co.harney.or.us/gis.html

[lyle]

I'd claim first but that would be gauche.

[Gus]

Maybe John Effin Kerry could go in and negotiate!!!!

[narciso]

of course, one could bring up the Hanafi muslims from the siege in 77, or the various symbolic exercises by Black Panthers,

[Threadkiller]

The Bundy guy just spanked Megyn Kelly on live tv.

Bam!

[henry]

Let's not talk about occupying state Capitol buildings and issuing death threats as egged on by Trumka the media and Obama...

[lyle]

If mooslims took over the Malheur county building, what angle would the effing press take?

[Gus]

It's all good, it's just a protest movement, you know, like Bill Ayers minus all the Police killings and bombs AND SUCH.

[Threadkiller]

Here it is:
http://youtu.be/9KUz47-xh_Q

"Make your point..."

[Comanche Voter]

If Janet Reno were around, these guys would be crispy critters in five or six days.

[Gus]

Megyn seems like an "establishment" Republican in the interview. The "People" aren't allowed to assert their rights, the Federal Govt went through the rigged process to confiscate the land. It's called due process.
I'm sure the original George W, would disagree with such a Government grab.

[Comanche Voter]

Re my post above, I'm not saying that I'd approve. I'm just saying that's what the Clintonista Attorney General would and did do. You don't defy big sis and live.

[narciso]

how many facepalms,

http://www.steynonline.com/7401/jeb-pitches-the-woo

[Frau Lecker]

Replace fed-up ranchers with irate college students and watch the feds rush to apologize.

lyle, I've enjoyed reading the description of your slow-cooker dish several times since you shared it last night. Yum!

[narciso]

excessive demagoguery, maybe he should stick to fantasy football,

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/rubio-isis-wouldve-lobbied-for-usa-freedom-act/?dcz=

[maryrose]

I agree with Joan wrt Manning

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Remember when Reno sent the nun down to intercede in the Elian Gonzalez dust up, fully confident that the good Sister would recommend sending him back to his Fidel pawn father; but the nun said his Florida relatives were a perfectly fine extended family to raise the young lad in accordance with the wishes of his brave mother who drowned escaping that hellhole?

In defense of Shakes and Jethro Bodine Stedman, the armed thugs which terrorized the family at gunpoint didn't torch the place after kidnapping young Elian.

[narciso]

they see everything, they only focus on some things,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFEcpigxspI&feature=em-subs_digest

[narciso]

it seems there is a pattern of this sort of thinking, Adams, Churchill, et al,

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/429211/robert-jackson-sharia-v-constitution

[daddy]

In the future everyone will be considered a "Revered Biblical Professor."

God made Eve from Adam's penis and NOT his rib, claims religious academic

The theory, put forward by revered biblical professor...

[Miss Marple]

daddy,

This reminds me of when I left the Methodist Church to eventually become a Catholic.

My minister told me in a Bible study that Jesus had girlfriends.

After looking upward to see if lightning bolts were imminent, I left the church and never felt bad about it.

[Miss Marple]

Heading to bed.

Good night, everyone!

[daddy]

Good Morning Miss M, and good night:)

8 AM over here.

[lyle]

Thanks, Frau. We had leftover short rib meat with corn tacos tonight. Delish! Screw you, Batali! :)

[narciso]

John Wesley, I think that's right, is just doing capoiera, in the other life, how does anything so ridiculous come to pass,

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Today was a strange day for me. Mrs H wanted to know if I wanted to go with her to Half Price Books (i.e. I drive) and for a change I said yes. When there I noticed a couple carts filled with primo traditional jazz and blues, including some Benny Carter stuff I'd never seen before. I would've probably snagged more than a couple of what I bought if I hadn't gotten so much to listen to for Christmas. When I went to the cashier I asked him if a drug dealer had died and they were liquidating his legal stash. He said they were from somebody who died and pointed out that they were all stamped by the owner. I saw where it was but didn't read it until I got into the car when my curiosity of who they belonged to and read RECORD COLLECTION OF GIRARDEAU A. SPANN, SR.

I ran back into the store and started babbling to the cashier "When did Mr. Spann die? He knew more about music than just about anybody I know including most musicians. What you have here is great but surely just the tip of the iceberg." I hadn't seen Mr. Spann in about 20 years. He was like a mythic figure, rail thin and obviously old when I knew him then (I guessed that he was my father's age and based on that the carney should probably hire me on for summers) but seemed like he'd live forever.

I've spent some subsequent time calling people who knew him and pointing out to a few on Zuckerberg who knew him. I've had a harder time dealing with it than I have with some of my blood relatives, probably because of the strange and random way I found out about it.

[Jim Miller]

"The Bundy guy just spanked Megyn Kelly on live tv."

I think that qualifies as too much information, for those of us who aren't into B and D. (Even if she consented.)

(As I have mentioned before, I visualize almost all metaphors, almost automatically.)

[Threadkiller]

The Bundy guy just exposed Megyn Kelly on live tv.

[narciso]

was this him:

http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/cleveland/girardeau-a-spann-condolences/176124613?page=3

[Threadkiller]

What a wild story, CH.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

That be him but that picture is unusual to me because I don't ever think I saw him without a brimless hat that fit like a helmet.

[lyle]

Exposed Megyn? Damn, I should watch Fox more often...

[lyle]

Anyone but me watching OU/KU b-ball? 2nd OT. Also, is Bill Self always this big of an asshole?

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Self is one of my favorite Div 1 head coaches but I'm sure he can grate on you if you're cheering for the other team because he will work the refs. I've always liked the Jayhawks for whatever reason.

[narciso]

well erickson has got the vapors,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2016/01/04/sean-hannity-disses-actions-of-bundy-sons-in-oregon/

[narciso]

they seem not to have liked the lemon/griffin banter,

https://twitter.com/alexweprin/status/684126342103887879/photo/1

[lyle]

I don't care who wins, frankly, but "working the refs" is an egregious understatement with that cat. Vein-bulging, spittle-flecked, abuse is what it looks like. Oh, well, one doesn't get to coach a perennial top ranked program without some of that crap, I guess.

[lyle]

Helluva game, to say the least.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

It's funny how Kansas couldn't get over the hump under Roy Williams, who had fun to watch teams that just fell short, so Self comes and leads them to two championships; and Roy goes to Carolina and does likewise.

[lyle]

If they show one more shot of Vitale and Musburger shoulder-rubbing each other, I'm gonna puke. Get a room already. I'll say nytol with this: those two are why somebody invented the mute button. Well, actually Precious was the real reason.

[narciso]

well there's a reason for that,

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/11/why_are_cuban_refugees_trying_to_get_into_nicaragua.html

[narciso]

that's what the goggles are for lyle, even though they do nothing,

[Comanche Voter]

Musburger---or "Burnt Hamburger" is like Ntyol. He'll put you to sleep--that is unless he gives you a stroke because of his incessant shilling for his favorite teams. If I know Musburger is going to be covering a game, I choose to do something more important--like playing pick up sticks with a three year old. It's more entertaining.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

He's pretty entertaining if Katherine Webb is in the stands.

[lyle]

Heh, Ig. Hands free mic as well...

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

It's always interesting trying to figure out who Brent put money on because he's perpetually yammering about the point spread.

[daddy]

So an illegal immigrant from Sudan, illegally living with thousands of other illegal Sudan immigrants in Calais, becomes the first to illegally walk 31 miles through the Chunnel to England.

Naturally the Brits grant him asylum.

He will be given state-funded accommodation and £37 weekly allowance

I wonder if there's one chance in a million that this will encourage copycats?

[GUS]

I see your 37 pounds and raise you $500.00.

Sincerely Barack McJugEars jr.

[narciso]

Seeing how Chowdary's disciple, Abu Rumayh, (sic)
might be the new Jihad John, I'm not surprised,

[narciso]

they don't call it londonistan for nothing,

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/04/profile-new-isis-executioner-may-be-anjem-choudarys-bag-boy-who-wanted-to-turn-buckingham-palace-into-a-mega-mosque/

[GUS]

Kind of makes Obama jealous Narciso. We're catching London and Barry has one more year to let 'em in.

[Miss Marple]

Good morning!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/where-obama-wont-be-going-on-his-global-farewell-tour/2016/01/04/73d1e852-b2ea-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html?hpid=hp_opinions-for-wide-side_opinion-card-e%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

[Miss Marple]

I see Chik-fil-A neglected to pay the important people:

http://www.ajc.com/news/business/nyc-chick-fil-a-closed-after-health-inspection/npxX8/

[Miss Marple]

http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/war-gains-bulgarian-arms-add-fuel-to-middle-east-conflicts-12-16-2015

Bulgaria?

[In everybody's way.]

I'd be curious to see a breakdown of the distribution within the Shia/Sunni divide of NATP/Soviet style weaponry. I'd guess it's highly complex, and Soviet dominating over the divide.

Bulgarian shot a pope. Historically, a tough place.

[In Operative.]

NATP, North Atlantic Treatious Pusillanimity? It was 'NATIO' 'til I fixed it.

[Miaow.]

So, Sooners win 106-105. That's the last I heard.

[Miss Marple]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/28/century-donald-trump-churchill-warned-no-stronger-retrograde-force-exists-world-islam/

[A frighter iris leers about the burnished sand.]

Oregon rebels still alive. Progressives everywhere thirstier than ever for their blood. Teheran and Meshad still not glass from Saudi nukes.

[Clan Gordon are near and dear, Martini's are sumpin' to fear.]

Your Churchill link @ 6:59 is far longer than I can usually read and Breitbart, as usual, froze my gig, is worth reading every word. TNX.

[Miss Marple]

This quote by Churchill from The River War seems especially poignant right now:

"For I hope that if evil days should come upon our own country, and the last army which a collapsing Empire could interpose between London and the invader were dissolving in rout and ruin, that there would be some—even in these modern days—who would not care to accustom themselves to a new order of things and tamely survive the disaster."

[Miss Marple]

I have had trouble with the Breitbart site, too. I uploaded a new ad blocking program and it seems to have corrected it.

[Janet]

Here's a good link for the backstory of the Oregon ranchers - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429214/oregon-rancher-protests-civil-disobedience-justified

[rse]

The Department of Ed put out a safe schools letter that they embargoed until 3 yesterday on making sure schools understand that Muslim, Arab, and Syrian refugee students must be made to feel welcome. http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/rulesforengagement/safeschoolsletter.pdf

In other words until someone is firing at you or has raised a sword , we must all remember this is a religion of peace. It is not to be taught as the totalitarian legal, economic, and social system that it also aspires to be because those will not deliver the affirmative protections of our civil rights laws.

[Janet]

Ol' VP Joe Biden sure hasn't been in the news. What's he doing?

He was maybe gonna run for POTUS...& then he disappeared.

[henry]

Hillary sold him to the aliens for hair plug implant studies.

[James D]

Via Insty (who has several good/infuriating links up this morning)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428910/campus-rape-courts-republicans-resisting

Remind me why Rubio would be a good choice, if he's actively siding with progressives to support a damaging bill that advances leftist narratives and agendas?

[Miss Marple]

Janet,

Under that excellent article by David French is onoe by Rich Lowry.

The title is "The Bundy Occupation of the Oregon Refuge is Distasteful."

Distasteful. Yes, the peasants are revolting with their embarrassing cowboy hats and Wrangler jeans. Much better to leave this discussion to the back rooms of Washington, where high-priced writers and lawyers can tut-tut about a family's livelihood destroyed.

[NK]

Janet-- Obummer stopped any pretense of convincing white/older voters to like Dems, so .... goodbye SloJoe.

[henry]

Ultimate crossing of the streams: "Making a Murderer" defense attorney also representing John Doe victims. The prosecutors run amok theme also ties into the Bundy empty building sit-in (or the supposed reason for it).

[James D]

I was going to comment on the Lowry article, but you beat me to it, MM.

I wonder what, exactly, Lowry thinks the victims of this "vindictive and unnecessary prosecution" (his own words) ought to do. Just accept their unjust sentence and thorw away the next four years of their life and have their home stolen from them by those same vindictive prosecutors, while their friends write strongly worded letters that nobody in the MSM will publish, and nobody in the government will read?

That's excellent! What a strategy!

[henry]

James D, under prosecutorial immunity these people have incredible power. If absolutely protected from consequence (which appears to be the case in WI and Oregon), that power is also absolute. Apply Lord Acton, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." ... the system guarantees absolute corruption, data confirm this model.

[Threadkiller]

I wonder if one of Farook's relatives is the health inspector for Chick-fil-A in NY.

[danoso]

Prosecutors might have immunity, but how about the Bureau of Land Management folks? Yeah, I know, nothing will happen under this administration, but putting the hammer down on a few of those pencil-necked geeks (who appear to be the root cause of all this nonsense) might send the right message.

[MaryD]

Great essay by Harry Stein: "How the Clintons Changed America". LUN

Brings it all back, and reminds us of just how vile they are.

[Janet]

Land owners in Oregon go to prison for burning some junipers. The feds hold them to account!!

Land owners in border states have to put up with illegals trespassing on their property because the feds refuse to do their job.

Everything is a win-win-win-win for the feds.. They hold YOU to the law or to some regulations that no Representative lawmaker ever wrote or passed....but they don't obey the laws they passed. No consequence for them.

[henry]

danoso, yes indeed. Bureaucrats at the GAB also get off without a scratch.

[Janet]

a thought...in some ways the caterwauling about Trump not being a real Republican helps the Republicans. It shows Americans from all over the political spectrum are appalled by the Democrat party.

Switch parties! Admit it...the Democrats are nuts!

Democrats represent citizens of other countries...not Americans!

Democrats paint businesses as evil & greedy for EARNING money....while they TAKE YOUR MONEY to grow government.

[henry]

test

[NK]

Do Ig and others here who go through Fed background checks agree with this Ed M take on the EOs?: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/01/05/obamas-faceplant-on-gun-control-eos/

[Old Lurker]

Valerie Jarrett says the gun takeaway plan includes spending $500M on mental health.

Where does the President get to spend that much cash without Congressional consent?

I know, I know.

Silly me.

Back to the Ledge.

[henry]

$500M on mental health

where is Mooch going on vacation now?

[Old Lurker]

:-)

[sbw]

The value of the lamest of presidential ducks in the instructive lesson for the next Congress to rein in both the president and the executive bureaucracy.

That’s a lesson moderates of all stripes should be able to rally behind.

[henry]

If a done deal can be unravelled in Oregon and toughr punishment imposed, why not in Florida? Gotta think Pedo Island deserves greater punishment than burning a few juniper trees.

[Jack is Back (but On Alert)!]

Anyone with legal litigation experience with HIPPA?

Is this business of doctor'r ratting out patients with mental illness to the FBI a violation of the privacy protections under HIPPA? I am all in favor of "committal" especially those inclined toward violence and access to guns but shouldn't Congress have to amend the existing laws first?

[henry]

Doesn't the Psych Assn list gun ownership as a mental disease anyway? That little loophole should be explored too.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Do Ig and others here who go through Fed background checks agree with this Ed M take on the EOs?--

Yes.

• Hiring more people to run the FBI background check system, so the government can be “processing background checks 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.”

• Requesting from Congress an additional $500 million to increase access to mental health care.

• Clarifying that people selling guns over the Internet can still be required to conduct background checks on buyers if they are “engaged in the business” of selling guns, not just a hobbyist.

The first point will facilitate more and faster gun sales so bully for Barry.

The second point is at this point meaningless for any matter regarding firearms.

The third point is ambiguous because the present regs are ambiguous. Those engaging in the "occasional" sale of firearms are not required to have an FFL. "Occasional" is not precisely defined.
Presently any interstate sale of a firearm must go through an FFL on the recieving end, who then does a NICS check when the purchaser picks it up.
So if more people were required to have an FFL it would only apply to any intrastate sales they made and even then only in those states which don't already require all private party transfers to go through an FFL.

Less than nothing.

[Captain Hate on the iPad]

Most shrinks are mentally ill with a higher than average suicide rate.

[Jack is Back (but On Alert)!]

I see the usuaul suspects and apologists are circling the Clinton wagon train. Lanny Davis even works up the moral courage to "thank" Trump for bringing up Bubba's sordid history of sexual abuse and deviance.

Going to be hard to convince the public that Trump is heading VRWC at the same time explaining that he has only discouraged under-educated white Democrats as his baseline support.

[Rick Ballard]

If you have any interest in following markets, I would strongly suggest reading what will become known as the Nevsky Letter. It is a succinct rationale for withdrawal to the sidelines and becoming a spectator rather than remaining on the smoke and fog enshrouded playing field. Take a hard look at the initial performance review at the top before reading further.

There wasn't much luck involved in Nevsky's results.

For dessert, this FT piece covering the theoretical extension of sovereign guarantee to private debt should elicit contemplation of the difference between 'implicit' and 'explicit' when trying to collect debt owed. It's going to be a rather contentious issue over the next few years, particularly wrt China, Brazil and Mexico.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Prosecutors might have immunity, but how about the Bureau of Land Management folks? Yeah, I know, nothing will happen under this administration, but putting the hammer down on a few of those pencil-necked geeks (who appear to be the root cause of all this nonsense) might send the right message.--

That may or may not be true.
The BLM contacted local law enforcement after the first fire [which doesn't seem unreasonable] and they declined to prosecute.
It was apparently nine years after the first fire before the harridan fed prosecutor charged them, so it seems to me the local BLM guys were not the motivating force in this mess.
Moreover I suspect the time lag is why they were prosecuted under the antiterrorism statute, which I'm guessing must have a long statute of limitations. Garden variety arson charges, even federal ones, would not carry a ten year SOL.The second fire was only one acre and even the prosecutors admitted it was set to protect their ranch so prosecuting that one alone would have been laughed out of court.

[Janet]

Obama's "for the kids" gun grab doesn't quite fit with all the lib. pervs. Epstein, Terry Bean, Hollywood, ...

...& the incentive Obama has given illegals to travel with a kid as their ticket to get into the U.S..

....& their daily slaughtering of babies.

Dems are "for the kids"...::spit::...what a joke.

[Old Lurker]

Rick, the Nevsky Letter made great reading out here on the Ledge. One odd line 75% in referred to the very robust growth in the US economy and strong job creation...going on to note that the rising cost of capital will threaten that. How can they call this a robust recovery?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Here is a list of the gun regs straight from the horse's ass's mouth.

Still seems less than nothing and will have zero impact on crime, of course.
I don't see any HIPPA issues JiB.
It asks SS to provide info to the FBI on those with mental disabilities who have payees managing their affairs and it encourages the states to provide more complete info on those judged mentally defective and involuntarily confined. There may be more to it but that was all I saw.

It also bars corporations and trusts rather than individuals from acquiring NFA firearms like machine guns, sawed off shotguns and silencers.
To the best of my knowledge it remains a fact that either zero or one [the circumstances are ambiguous] legally owned machine gun has, in our long history, ever been used in the commission of a crime.

[Miss Marple]

Ignatz,

The most important thing about these gun regulations is that they give Obama an excuse to get on TV and rant at us like some 3rd world dictator, while his captive audience claps on cue.

[Gentlejim]

I notice that 404 doesn't mention fixing the disaster that is our inner cities in his firearms EOs. I thought it was for the chilren.

[henry]

PP is supposed to fix the cities.

[Rick Ballard]

OL,

It's what one might expect if its remaining book is dominated by US holdings. It's also a matter of relative safety and stability. The US has a troubling progressive fascist vermin problem but it's not insoluble and we're not beyond repair wrt demographic suicide.

[PDinDetroit]

Iggy - If trusts and corps are no longer able to buy NFA firearms, then anyone who wants one not only has to pass a Background Check but must then get their Chief Law Enforcement Officer within their locality to approve the purchase/transfer. Even in Michigan, there are CLEO's who will not approve the purchase/transfer no matter who the person is or what background checks they may have passed. This then becomes "may issue" instead of "shall issue" and IMHO violates Equal Protection Under The Law.