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February 13, 2016

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 _peter

prayers for our country. This is terrible news.

henry

Fundamental Transformation in action. A republic if we could keep it.

And Putin, China, Iran, North Korea and ISIS running unchecked.

One more SC seat that is lefty enough and guess who never leaves the White House. (A penumbra will let him stay).

Miss Marple

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/13/fight-over-antonin-scalia-replacement-heats-democr/

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

One more pinko SC seat and it won't matter who is in the White House.

Look back at the last ten or twenty years of decisions and imagine all those 5-4 nail biters, that barely preserved what little of the constitution remains, had gone the other way.

henry

Breaking news on Twitter is that Obama will rush a nomination.

Clarice

He can rush it all he wants-it's DOA. Everything else is just , pardon the expression, politics.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

The Republicans need only ask themselves one question;
If it was a Dem Senate and Rep president with less than a year left in his last term would he get a nomination voted on?
Barry should receive exactly whatever the answer to that question is...and we all know what it would be.

Thomas Collins

Obama can rush all he wants. Not happening. I agree with MM that Lynch will be the nominee. The Dems will try to make hay out of the Senate not taking up her nomination. I hope the GOP is up to dealing with the demagoguery.

narciso

when the tables were turned,

http://obamaspeeches.com/048-Supreme-Court-Nomination-of-Samuel-Alito-Obama-Podcast.htm

narciso

one of his classics,

http://legalinsurrection.com/2009/12/scalia-was-right-about-releasing-gitmo-detainees/

in the modern era,

Ann

Thank God Harry Reid is not in charge of the senate.

Let's all remember the filibusters of great judges like Priscilla Owen, William Pryor, Janice Rogers Brown.

http://www.lee.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/op-eds?ID=27dac90e-11a3-48d1-b970-19c2894530a5

I am just sick to my stomach. Trying to think of things on our side to be thankful for. Can't believe our nation is once again in the hands of Mitch.

Captain Hate

After those two substandard losers 404 already put in place, hasn't he already stained the Court enough

Thomas Collins

An Anita Hill nomination would sure stoke up the Dem base.

lyle

0 should nominate Hilligula or Teh Sickly Poon Hound™.

I denounce myself.

Ann

Let's all write Attorney General Loretta Lynch and tell her she better indict the Clintons or she will have no votes for the SC.

:)

caro

Did I just hear that Obama has a window between Jan 3 and Jan 17 next year when he can make a lifetime appt during recess?

Stephanie

These are the people who will stand between liberty and tyranny:

Chuck Grassley, Iowa, Chair
Orrin Hatch, Utah
Jeff Sessions, Alabama
Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
John Cornyn, Texas
Mike Lee, Utah
Ted Cruz, Texas
Jeff Flake, Arizona
David Vitter, Louisiana
David Perdue, Georgia
Thom Tillis, North Carolina

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Looks like I get NASCAR instead of the debate. The tv has been commandeered. Not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Miss Marple

caro,

I heard that, too. I would like to know more about that. How could an appointment like that be confirmed?

Darrell Issa gets things wrong from time to time, so I am not sure that is right.

Jane on Ipad

I heard that too Caro. McConnell better find a way to keep the Senate in session or Eric Holder will be named.

Captain Hate

Did I just hear that Obama has a window between Jan 3 and Jan 17 next year when he can make a lifetime appt during recess?

NFW; recess appointments are for cabinet positions although 404 and Lynch are dumb enough to think they can hopscotch to a different branch of government.

The End is Near

In 2017, the Senate is out of office in January before Obama. Barack will have an opportunity to appoint a Justice at that time without Senate approval.

henry

OH great. Obama to speak at 8:30 eastern. He'll be late and step on the debate, along with whatever the asshole is going to say.

Captain Hate

Cabinet sb executive branch

glasater

When there was a recess appointment for John Bolton it was for under two years.

This recess appointment for SCOTUS wouldn't hold but sure shows how progs think.

Sue

My youngest daughter just called Fiona sporting goods chain in the DFW area and said they have already put out 2nd amendment sale signs on all guns.

henry

Eisenhower did a recess appointment to the SC.

Sue

From not Fiona.

Miss Marple

How could he appoint a justice without Senate approval?

This seems to me to be a loophole that should be closed real quick, if it is true.

caro

I think I heard that Eisenhower appointed Brennen as a recess appt and later said it was his biggest mistake. LIFETIME.

No confirmation necessary?

Beasts of England

I'd send Sessions a note, but I kinda sorta trust that he's on top of the situation.

And as much as many of us have bitched about the poor performance of the Senate majority gained in 2014, this could easily make up for all of it.

henry

It's a standard good until next Congess sits recess appointment.

Miss Marple

Does the debate start at 9? (On CBS, not Fox as I erroneously posted to Jane.)

henry

MissM, yes it was to start at 9. Now Obama will showboat and filibuster it.

narciso

yes, unless zaphod overspeaks, from the 8:30 moment,

Miss Marple

Well, I guess I can go clean up the kitchen while Obama speaks. You just know he is going to be nasty.

Ann

Byron York on twitter:

Graham: 'I told the president…that if you abuse power and change the rules…you'll pay a price with me. So here's the price.'

Jeff Dobbs

Ike's recess appointments:

Earl Warren was recess appointed in Oct 53, then confirmed by the Senate in Jan 54.

William Brennan was recess appointed in Oct 56 and then confirmed by the Senate in Mar 57

Potter Stewart was recess appointed in Oct 58 and then confirmed by the Senate in May 59.

Momto2

I think this will be "fish or cut bait" time for some of our R senators who want to sound "oh-so-reasonable" about every issue!

Captain Hate

Eisenhower did recess appointments for 3 of the 5 Supreme Court justices he put in place but they still had to be subsequently formally nominated and approved by the Senate.

Michael (fpa Patriot4Freedom)

oBOzo gets a two-fer:

He gets to interfere with the attention paid to the debate, and he gets to launch a pre-emptive strike accusing the Repubs of conspiring against the rights of the 'American people.'

Sue

The first thing my husband said was how did Ginsberg outlive Scalia?

anonamom

He appointed Earl Warren Chief Justice

Beasts of England

Fuck Obama.

Captain Hate

I hope Kevin McCarthy's larynx is being removed, sans anesthetics, as I'm typing this.

anonamom

Bret's wised up---they aren't going back to Rancho Mirage til Obama is sighted.

I'll put my money on 8:37.

narciso

it doesn't say, why he recess appointed Warren, in the wiki

caro

I see now that a recess appt does need senate confirmation. That makes the election of an R senate again extremely important. As if it were not anyway...

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I stand with Beasts.

Rick Ballard

The old Congress expires on January 3, 2017. The new Congress is sworn in On January 3, 2017. I suppose if the GOP were careless enough to recess on January 3, Obama could make a recess appointment which would endure until January 3, 2019. If the Democrats took control and recessed it would be possible as well.

It's not very likely.

Beasts of England

And yes, Rocco, I would say that in front of my daughters. I've stated that dozens of times in their presence. :)

Jeff Dobbs

8:32, no Obama yet.

henry

Ace has the Senate calendar up. They are off next week (or the week after, it's unclear). Obama could jam someone in to "fix" pending decisions on AA, EPA, even the WI John Doe. McConnell better move quickly.

Marlene

We've been busy this afternoon and just got in and heard the news. I also just talked to the daughter and she said this blows up any legislative agenda for the year.
Very upsetting news.

Miss Marple


John Avignone ‏@johnavignone 53m53 minutes ago

@POTUS Why not nominate Loretta Lynch? Force GOP to block 2 high order noms and block the first black female justice

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Told you so!

anonamom

Has Obama EVER been on time?

I'll stand with Beasts and Ig.

anonamom

Here's something for Trump and Bernie supporters from Justice Scalia, from a 2010 commencement address:

“Movement is not necessarily progress. More important than your obligation to follow your conscience, or at least prior to it, is your obligation to form your conscience correctly. Nobody — remember this — neither Hitler, nor Lenin, nor any despot you could name, ever came forward with a proposal that read, ‘Now, let’s create a really oppressive and evil society.’ Hitler said, ‘Let’s take the means necessary to restore our national pride and civic order.’ And Lenin said, ‘Let’s take the means necessary to assure a fair distribution of the goods of the world.’

“In short, it is your responsibility, men and women of the class of 2010, not just to be zealous in the pursuit of your ideals, but to be sure that your ideals are the right ones. That is perhaps the hardest part of being a good human being: Good intentions are not enough. Being a good person begins with being a wise person. Then, when you follow your conscience, will you be headed in the right direction.”

Stephanie

According to David J on FB:

The House dissolves during that period. The Senate is a continuing body and never dissolves, because 2/3 of its members remain in office after each election.

Cecil Turner

Okay, now for the silver lining . . . This is not the last SCOTUS justice who's going to die in the next few years. Which makes that whole electability argument a lot more pointed.

Jeff Dobbs

Heh.

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11:06 AM - 13 Feb 2016

The SNL crowd seems to me to be people who have most likely seen Office Space, and probably a bunch of BernieBros and Gals to boot

Jeff Dobbs

8:45, no Obama yet

anonamom

Or how about that woman in California AG, Kamal Harris?
Though I do get how Loretta already having been confirmed supports their argument about unreasonable, racist Rs better.

I don't think Scalia died after a hunting trip as Bret keeps saying, but after plane trip followed by a big dinner and plenty of alcohol, from the sounds of all these reminiscences I've heard this evening.

Jeff Dobbs

Here he is. Boo.

anonamom

Fifteen minutes late. He'd better have been talking to Putin.

Momto2

From Twitter: Ed Whelan -

"There hasn't been a justice confirmed in an election year to an election-year vacancy in more than 80 years. No reason to do so now."
211 retweets 157 likes

henry

No tie? The man has no respect for anything.

narciso

probably the closest parallel,

http://www.biography.com/people/fred-vinson-40076#chief-justice-of-the-supreme-court

it's a good thing, neither lew or turbo tim, have law degrees,

anonamom

Oh, I get it--he started writing that at 8:30. We misunderstood.

What Beasts said at 8:22.

Ann

WHERE IS HIS TIE! He probably had his golf shoes on.

Momto2

Couldn't he have kept us waiting another 3 minutes and put on a tie for goodness sake???

narciso

well it was a short statement, so 'sound and fury, signifying nothing' was reduced by 50%

Jeff Dobbs

Ann:
WHERE IS HIS TIE! He probably had his golf shoes on.

Yes, it could have been worse...

Ann

I actually thought that was real for a second, Jeff. LOL

Captain Hate

Mark my words, the decision by the RNC pinheads, led by that Popinjay Priebus, to have the Republican convention in Cleveland will be a disaster of epic proportions. Leave aside that they passed up going to traditional GOP cities like Dallas for some donk stronghold for some dumbass reason, this week mayor Jackass signed off on some horseshit where the DoJ will have massive oversight of the Cleveland police. Gee willikers, I don't see anything that can go wrong with that considering all the protesters that will be there.

And they wonder why people hate them.

narciso

yes, remember the opening to Demolition Man, cunning cunning strategist, now the city of Brotherly Love, might be kindled first,

Jane on Ipad

He didn't even mention the fact that Scalia died. What a fucking asshole. Pardon my French.

henry

Trump, no head bow for moment of silence in memory of Scalia.

Miss Marple

OK, debate starting. Dickerson is annoying.

henry

Start with why shouldn't Obama get his nomination sailed through. The mods are total assholes.

narciso

at this point, you can't rule out enemy action:

http://www.newsbusters.org/journalists/john-dickerson

Miss Marple

Good answer from Trump as far as procedure, but I don't know the two people he mentioned.

henry

But Harry Reid says Obama should get his nominee sailed through.

Threadkiller

Noel Canning suggests that appointments could be made when the Senate takes a break during a session. I believe I complained about this at the time of the opinion.

Here is a tenative schedule for the Senate:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/2016_schedule.htm

henry

Whichever candidate kicks this asshat in the crotch gets my vote.

narciso

my answer to that, can't be properly expressed in English/

Ann

Twitter
Dana Perino ‏@DanaPerino 43s44 seconds ago
The folks are gonna like Kasich. I've said it before, and I stand by that.

Dana is an idiot.

Miss Marple

So far, all of the candidates have given good answers. Dickerson is trying to get them to say Obama has the right to do it. They aren't biting.

narciso

point of personal privilege,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/dana-perino-and-cuban-mis_n_76129.html

Ann

What happened to the "No clapping" rule?

Miss Marple

Dickerson is an asshat.

Since he couldn't get anyone to agree with his hint, he says it himself.

And now Dickerson is arguing with them.

He gets boos.

HA!

Another Bob

So far, we're hearing all the right things from the republicans. Let's presume they make it stick.

Zero leverages Ginsburg to retire for "health reasons", precipitating a "crisis on the court" demanding actin on his nominees?

henry

This Dickerson character needs to be stomped.

Captain Hate

Shocking that PeRINO likes the mailman's son. Really didn't see that coming...

narciso

who has the shovel?

Jeff Dobbs

Dickerson has five too many letters on the end of his last name.

Threadkiller

Probably another donor audience, Ann.

henry

What three questions... Aka you rubes are all far too stupid to be President, tell us just how stupid

Stephanie

It is a donor audience.

henry

Gee Dr, tell us how unqualified you are!

narciso

it's not an easy question, seeing how they wipe out institutional legitimacy with a footnote, and they enshrine their own precedent,

Frau Trauer

The first thing my husband said was how did Ginsberg outlive Scalia?"

Who sez Ginsberg is alive?

Justice Scalia is such a loss to the country. If civility had not been strangled, everyone would acknowledge his service. Let's see how the administration shows respect.

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