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February 29, 2016

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henry

He's free to do so... but risks getting Hilligula elected.

clarice

In case you missed this in the fast shuffling of threads:http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/02/trump_being_targeted_for_not_repudiating_a_nonendorsement.html

derwill

So I see that after a week of Rubio's pee and penis snark as orchestrated by our brilliant GOPe, not only has Trump increased his lead in the polls, but Rubio has dropped from second to third.

Remember when some of us were wondering if Rubio had learned from his mistake of getting used as a tool over the Gang of 8 thing?

I guess we got our answer.

Truthbetold

Why George Soros Could Have Major Clout in Either a Trump or Clinton Presidency

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/29/why-george-soros-could-have-major-clout-in-either-a-trump-or-clinton-presidency/

Buckeye

One really nagging question about Trump.

If he is such a louse, how did his kids end up so well-mannered, accomplished and seemingly, as stand-up citizens?

glasater

To answer JamesD's comment on the last thread:

Evidence is surfacing that some workers are asking their bosses for fewer hours as their wages rise – in a bid to keep overall income down so they don’t lose public subsidies for things like food, child care and rent.

Truthbetold

Big names back Trump tower
Soros, Deutsche Bank said to be in on 90-story building

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-10-28/news/0410280265_1_donald-trump-soros-fund-management-blackacre-institutional-capital-management

henry

If Trump stiffs those particular people before the election... I'd be tempted to vote for him.

NK

henry-- ChiTown: trump's original buyers are taking a bath on re-sale from their frothy pre-bust pricing: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150912/ISSUE01/309129989/finding-a-trump-in-the-bargain-aisle

hrtshpdbox

.. how did his kids end up so well-mannered..

I saw an interview with DT Jr, who seemed quite obnoxious and belittling. Not as much as Dad, but that's a really high bar to jump over.

glasater

Trump article tbt links is from '04.

narciso

you have learned nothing from the beatings,


https://twitter.com/MittRomney/status/704371093549805569

jimmyk

Reposting from the last thread:

If Trump gets the nomination he'll have plenty of time to woo the conservative base, if he's smart enough to know that's what he needs to do. If he's dumb he'll shift left thinking that he can get votes from Hillary that way, but then he'll for sure lose the conservatives.

I'm not so anti-Rubio as everyone here seems to be. I still prefer him to Trump. So I'd rather not join in the ridicule. I saw that clip of him explaining his supporter's inability to cite his accomplishments. I thought his response was reasonable. He listed a bunch of his accomplishments, and said that the NV guy who endorsed him liked his platform and hadn't studied his record. Big deal. I even thought his explanation of the Gang of 8 thing was ok.

I don't think we're well-served with this circular firing squad, either aiming at Trump or Rubio or Cruz. (Kasich ridicule I'm fine with.)

Truthbetold

Questions on earlier marketing for Trump

http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/chi-022202trump-plan-story.html

hrtshpdbox

This would be just about the only explanation re: Trump's claim that his taxes have been audited for the past 12 years:

"The IRS actually has a rule, in its agent manual, that if a person is audited and receives an assessment of zero (that is, does not owe additional money), the IRS cannot audit them again for two years. That means if Trump is telling the truth, then the IRS has repeatedly found discrepancies in his returns."

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-tax-audited-12-years-in-a-row-161055545.html

Truthbetold

glasater

Are you saying Trump has changed his ways?

hrtshpdbox

"I don't think we're well-served with this circular firing squad.."

No, we're not, but there's no avoiding it; even if unintentionally, Trump is extremely divisive. Even if unintentionally, his candidacy has damaged the GOP, potentially for quite some time.

narciso
jimmyk

That means if Trump is telling the truth, then the IRS has repeatedly found discrepancies in his returns."

So what? If his returns are the size of three phone books, I'm sure the IRS can find "discrepancies." And it's not as though he does his returns himself.

Thomas Collins

OK, let's say Trumpster runs enough of the table tomorrow to put Rubio, Cruz, Kasich and Carson in submission mode. Does Mittster get into the GOP nomination race, or does he start assembling a third party run?

I don't believe that Mittster is slamming Trump on David Duke and taxes to help Rubio or Cruz. I think Mittster is thinking of himself as the savior.

Check your blood pressure, CH!

Tom Maguire

I am very curious to know - what El Rushbo is saying about this?

jimmyk

Trump is extremely divisive.

So it's all Trump's fault? Not the angry #NeverTrump crowd? Seems to me there's plenty of blame to go around, including the RNC that contributed to the circus atmosphere.

rse

New post up http://www.invisibleserfscollar.com/strange-bedfellows-but-all-seeking-to-build-unmarked-bridges-between-matter-and-spirit/

On that Blaze article, soros would definitely be connected to a hillary admin. Do not know about trump, but I do know for sure Trump was at the Bipartisan Leadership Summit on Capitol Hill in December 2014. Maybe he was there on behalf of his Goldman Sachs wife but Soros operatives practically planned it.

I have never gotten a good explanation for that and reps for the Kochs and heriage were also there. I think Mark Kirk may have been the only Republican speaker. I wasn't looking for cruz. I was following up on a speaker from the Convergence Center. Following up on her led me to the summit and Cruz's name jumped out.

Seriously tracking policy makes me want to yell a pox on both houses. That was definitely also a matter of strange bedfellows so beck should shut up.

rse

Sorry, that should be cruz as is probably evident from the rest.

Old Lurker

Seriously?

"...his taxes have been audited..." is a true statement on its face if any one of his dozens of entities has been audited in each year, and it is almost certain that every year at least one of them is looked at (which means audited). But even if an audit has "repeatedly found discrepancies", so what? All taxpayers should submit an honest return which reduces one's tax as much as possible, and, believe it or not, some tax issues are not black or white. If you want to be safe, then just give them all of the income, right?

geezh.

Rick Ballard

I'd rather read Levin's gentle and well reasoned response today than Limbaugh's attempt at triangulation and distancing.

Miss Marple

His candidacy didn't have to be divisive. When he announced, why wasn't he greeted by something like "We welcome him to the debate and the competition?"

Nope. First thing out of the box we heard clown car, buffoon, realiity show, etc. Perry referred to him as a cancer, for goodness sake.

You didn't have to agree that the solution was building a wall. You could have pointed out the problems n the southern border and offerred a different solution, without calling him zenophobic, racist, etc.

The GOPe dialed it up to eleventy from the very beginning. NRO columnists attacked people who supported him on Twitter. I saw it unfold, and will not forget.

So if you think his candidacy is divisive, hrtshpdbox, some of your side should look in the mirror.

Thomas Collins

At this point, although it's unlikely, it's not impossible that we could have a fascinating four way race: Trumpster, The Hill (or MasseurJoe if The Hill is leveled by WaterClosetGate), Bloomersberg and Mittster.

Thomas Collins

MM, the first thing I heard was an attack on Megyn Kelly by Trumpster.

Tom Maguire
Trump is extremely divisive.

So it's all Trump's fault? Not the angry #NeverTrump crowd?

Uhh, plenty of people, starting with the Ace of Spades, were on board with Trump on immigration but have jumped shift over the deliberately inflammatory rhetoric and the likelihood that Trump is a NY lib playing at conservative.

James D

Amen, MM!

I seem to recall a lot of people here and elsewhere saying from the beginning when Trump started to gain traction, that the GOP and the pundits and the other candidates would be better served looking at what he was doing, and figuring out why his supporters were responding to him, rather than flipping out (and dismissing his supporters as idiots, rubes, bigots etc)

The GOP and the pundits and the other candidates didn't listen, and we are where we are now. And anyone in the GOP who is unhappy about it can go directly to the nearest mirror and gaze into it if they want to know who to blame for why we're here.

Old Lurker

That sounds like three peas in a pod against one, right TC?

NK

TC@2:04-- OK, thanks for ruining my life with that observation.

narciso

Fidel's Nina Burleigh chimes in,

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/marco-rubio-profile-213275?paginate=false

Truthbetold

MM

When Trump says he can shoot someone on 5th Ave. and his supporters would not care. He is talking about you.

And he is right!

Miss Marple

Thomas Collins, quite true.

At that point the factions will be

1. Red Witch or Slow Joe, supported by mooches, leftists, crooks, and those who pull the d lever out of habit

2. Bloomie, supported by gun grabbers, health nuts, and those who can't bear to vote for #1.

3. Mittster, supported by the clueless conservative chattering class and disgruntled Bushies and GOPe

4. Trumpster, supported by the white working class, disgruntled blacks, middle class and small business

The only question is who would carry which states. Also, if Trump gets the nomination, HE gets the RNC infrastructure, not Mitt.

NK

TomM in Da Haus!!

Trump = NY Lib? not quite. He is a statist crony who is trying to become a... well... statist czar, like Putin.

I am one who sees this Trump thing as him playing very unhappy voters like marks who he is conning by telling them what he thinks they want to hear, and taking advantage of the fact the majority of Americans are disgusted with self-serving politicians and Big Cronies-- like Hilligula.

Thomas Collins

And the first thing that struck me about Trumpster versus the other candidates was not an attack by the other candidates, but Trumpster's insistence in a debate that he really could pull off throwing out all illegals and then taking their applications to come back in. At that point, if Trumpster had said he was going to focus first on fixing border security and concentrate on illegals who were national security threats, I would have been willing to consider him a breath of fresh air. But his first major policy proposal that caught my attention was one that is absolutely not going to happen.

Miss Marple

Really, Thomas Collins? The first thing I heard about Megyn Kelly is when she went after Trump at that first debate. It was then that he attacked her.

JeanD

daddy,

You asked for a report on Rush responding to the NYT article from this weekend, so here is my report:

He came out of the gate with it, and spent most of the first hour detailing what really happened. Yes, he went to a private dinner with Schumer and Graham, knowing that they wanted to discuss the immigration issue. This was in March of 2011. Marco was not there, nor was he mentioned.

The dinner was pleasant, covered many topics, and included immigration. Their efforts to solicit his support were unsuccessful because they refused to say there would be no possibility of voting rights for those "coming out of the shadows."

He did have Rubio on his show 2 years later, and gave him a respectful hearing.

My takeaways: Rush thinks the NYT article was designed to divide Rush from his audience, sow doubt, etc. And he told them to pound sand.

Sorry I can't faithfully transcribe things like you do, but this was my impression of his remarks.

If I am mistaken here, I hope someone else will correct my errors.

Say What

MSNBC Tamaron Hall interviewing David Corn on Trump and KKK. She cuts to tape, not seen previously by her, thinking it will be some white racist Trump supporter. Ooops. Watch her expression afterwards....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LltnLzLXs7U&app=desktop

The Infamous Ignatz

--So it's all Trump's fault?--

Yes.
He has used his mind control rays to get Rubio to start focusing on what comes out of Trump's penis and its size.
Christie, under Trump's malevolent sway, used similar rays to cause Rubio's record to get stuck a couple of debates ago.

Presumably if elected Rubio would wear some type of super secret helmet to block Putin's and Xi's mind control rays.

derwill

I'm trying to think of a government agency that voters hate worse than the IRS . . . still thinking . . . still thinking . . .

Just more smart strategy from the GOPe, pit Trump against the IRS and then side with the IRS.

narciso

that's sounds most often in keeping with Rush's thinking, is Mittens trying for Harold Stassen, because he doesn't go away?

Jeff Dobbs

TM:
I am very curious to know - what El Rushbo is saying about this?

So is daddy. He begged someone to listen and report on it....

Thomas Collins

MM, in a four way race, I think Trumpster could quite possibly secure over 50% of the electoral college critters.

NK, that would be a dream race for you. Three NYkers (I'll stretch it and call carpetbagger Hillary a NYker) and a financier! :-))

Captain Hate

Remember when we were told four years ago by the daily Tiger Beat about how adept Prince Willard was at social media?

hrtshpdbox

"geezh"

It was Trump who said he was unable to release any of his prior taxes because of being audited for 12 consecutive years (not a rationale I recall Mitt Romney or anyone else ever giving for not releasing prior taxes). I linked to an article that gave an explanation of how it was possible to be audited for 12 consecutive years.

James D

Voting update - something where every one of our votes actually counts, and you can feel good about the candidate!

Dream Doctor is at 54%, aheead of the other two books at 23% and 22% respectively. But the actual margin is only a couple of hundred votes, and that could be erased in minutes. So here's the link. Remember, a pint - a full 16 ounces! - of whiskeyfor every vote*

http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=56d261bae4b01668ec061dbf

(* to be provided at a future date to be determined, if practical, and local, state & federal law permitting)

jimmyk

Uhh, plenty of people, starting with the Ace of Spades, were on board with Trump on immigration but have jumped shift over the deliberately inflammatory rhetoric and the likelihood that Trump is a NY lib playing at conservative.

A circular firing squad by definition includes a bunch of people shooting at each other. Regardless of your view of Trump (and I'm not a big Trump fan), singling him out for blame is an error.

Thomas Collins

The problem is, though, although Bloomers and Mitts could probably afford it, running a viable campaign outside of a major party is not easy. Ross for Boss did quite a job in 1992, I thought.

Thomas Collins

The problem is, though, although Bloomers and Mitts could probably afford it, running a viable campaign outside of a major party is not easy. Ross for Boss did quite a job in 1992, I thought.

The Infamous Ignatz

That was funny, Say What.

narciso

that last came from mickey kaus, who doesn't realize how dangerously toxic rattlers are,

Captain Hate

derwill, how's the Uniparty doing on that Koskinen impeachment?

Rick Ballard

TRUMP IS NOT DIVISIVE!

As the two minute minute makes perfectly clear, Trump is always a dispassionate uniter who would never stoop to the type of violent demagoguery of which he is so unjustly accused. He has a crystal clear understanding of his supporters, as anyone who takes the two minutes to watch him in action will be forced to agree.

(A)Nuther Bub

Is the reverse also true? Did Ronald Reagan's and Sarah Palin's kids turn out as they did because of their bad parents?

I don't know much about Trump's kids' accomplishments and how many of those are unrelated to the financial and social benefits they had from birth, but I think we should be careful about making assumptions in that area. I try not to take credit for my kids' successes when they have them because I don't want to be blamed for their mistakes when they make them.

But perhaps Donald breast fed longer than I did, changed the little nappies more regularly, spent more time teaching them their prayers and good manners than I was able to do. He was probably home most of the time, helping with homework late at night and bandaging their wounds when they got hurt.

hrtshpdbox

... the first thing I heard was an attack on Megyn Kelly by Trumpster.

Pretty much simultaneous with attacks on John McCain and Charles Krauthammer. Sort of difficult to give a hearty "We welcome you to the debate and the competition" to the divisive oaf at that point.

Captain Hate

I wouldn't want to blame Ron Reagan Junior on anything short of immersion in toxic waste.

Old Lurker

hrtshpdbox, come on. You posted a link that might as well have said "you can get audited every year until you stop cheating, and if Trump is saying otherwise that cannot be true", and you introduced it by opining that that was the only explanation you could see.

I suggest there are many benign explanations for being audited every year, and by the way, nowhere is the IRS going to say "if you get off with zero" in one year, you get the next two years without any chance of being audited. IF THAT were true, we would all sucker the the IRS into a trivial audit where one buries two "mistakes" which offset to equal zero due, then drive massive fraud through the following two years.

The whole point of your post was to either say Trump lied about being audited twelve years in a row, or else he was caught cheating in every year.

Captain Hate

Btw, that this is even being discussed once again shows that the party of stoopid is being snookered on directing the national conversation. I look forward to the arguments from the apologists that this isn't really the party's fault.

hrtshpdbox

New thread, again.

lyle

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/02/immigration-or-iphone_26.html

The public argument between Apple and the FBI over cracking the encryption on an iPhone used by the San Bernardino Muslim terrorists is one of those ongoing civil liberties debates that negotiate the terms on which we are asked to sacrifice our civil liberties for the sake of Muslim immigration.

[snip]

Ongoing Muslim migration makes a police state inevitable. But to avoid the perils of profiling and the appearance of discrimination, it will be a universal police state that will strip away rights from everyone without regard to guilt or innocence in the hopes of averting the next Muslim terror attack.

The only way to protect our lives and our freedoms from Muslim terrorism and its consequences is by shutting down Muslim immigration. If we fail to do this, then we will lose our lives and our liberties.

I agree with every word of this. I can hardly be alone.

Threadkiller

Didn't Sassehole play the part of the perv brother, peaking out the bathroom window, in Fast Times at Ridgemont High?

He is probably mad that Trump didn't knock.

Threadkiller


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cheerleader

rse: where do you get that Melania Trump is connected to Goldman Sachs? She was born in Slovenia, made a lot of money modeling and met Mr. Trump at a cocktail party in New York. She went through the process to immigrate to the U.S.A. legally. I've never read of any connection between Mrs. Trump and Goldman Sachs. She is now a stay-at home mom. I know that Cruz's wife was a VP at Goldman Sachs, but I've never heard of a Melania connection to GS.

Barbara

These sorts of stories only tell me that the "High Cabal", as Winston Churchill referred to those who move the pieces on the chess board behind the scenes, is extremely worried that the voters may just temporarily remove them from manipulating the election this year. Republican or Democrat, they are all the same. This has never been more apparent than during the reign of Barack Obama.

There are only a few brave elected people out there who have gone against this combined Dem/Rep establishment. One is Jeff Sessions and I pray that he has good security.

Look for more {{{alarming}}} headlines to appear in the weeks to come as the Cabal tries to manipulate the voters into slitting their own throats. I'm with those who "will crawl over cut glass" to vote for the guy who is NOT Hillary. In this case until proven otherwise, that person is Trump. All the rest of the stories you see about him and the election are just chaff.

cheerleader

OL thank you for that post. Too much of the mud that is slung at Mr. Trump is based on vapor. Like the Trump U. case, he could have settled for less money than he's paid to fight the claims, but the action irked him on principle, so he's fought it over a period of years, and won most of, just a few remnants remaining.

Livemansionmail

Ben Sasse,

What you and none of your useless cohorts will ever understand is what your job entails. You are a representative of the people for the people and by the people. And if the MAJORITY support Donald Trump than your JOB is to support him as well. Your ignorant personal position is just that...YOUR opinion. Trump supporters are tired of your politics as usual. If you would have done your jobs and defended this country vs. rolling over and cow towing to the current "King" this country would not be in need of a revolutionary Republican. It staggers me that you cannot comprehend what the people want and you have neither the mentality or work history to tell ANY of us differently. Good riddance to Obama and the rest of you USELESS Republicans!

Also, don't ever claim to speak for all of Nebraska. You can speak for your grocer, the Jesus freaks at your church and the products of incest you call family. Do not ever claim to speak for me.

Finally, your resistance better turn to acceptance because Donald Trump will be the next President of the United States of America. If you don't like it pack your bags and leave with Miley Cyrus, Al Sharpton, Whoopi Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnel. Bring your Dick sucking partner Mitt Romney too!

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