Sunday Morning Open Thread

Here we go again.

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[maryrose]

First and Good Morning

[Jack is Back!]

Howdy. Snow no. But I am told to keep the shovel and salt on the front landing until end of the week. This global warming is scaring the bee-Jeebers out of me. No wonder earth is in peril.

[henry]

Snow overnight, supposed to become rain and warmer rest of day.

[Miss Marple 2]

Good morning!

http://aleteia.org/2016/04/09/watch-magical-wind-sculptures-that-look-like-a-new-life-form/

[Old Lurker]

Obama on Fox with Chris Wallace this morning?

This might be the first Sunday in years where I do not come to JOM to read Capn's summary of it.

:-)

[Miss Marple 2]

Old Lurker,

You have to read it. Captain Hate will be doing a noble sacrifice by watching!

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/09/opinion/zika-is-coming.html

The author if dean of pediatrics at Texas Children's Hospital, so I take this sort of seriously.

One would think that we would be mobilizing NOW, rather than waiting til later. One would also think local governments could start instead of waiting for the feds. And finally, a few ads on TV and word on the streets should get people moving in those neighborhoods, but I realize that is probably not going to happen.

[Old Lurker]

:-)

[buccaneer morgan]

Seriously I'm going to have a word with that groundhog.

[buccaneer morgan]

We have chip Dillard at the cdc, anonamom, what could go wrong?

[clarice]

Chilly here.Nice and sunny though.Looking forward to CH saving me time and trouble again.

[henry]

Miss M, the answer is DDT.... except pseudo-science cannot be overturned by Skydragon worshippers.

[Jack is Back!]

In case there is a contested convention, my nominee.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/story/military/election/2016/04/10/general-james-mattis-president-movement/82806616/

[Captain Hate]

I assume that the Ferret told Rupert that if Chris Wallace responds to one of Zippy's howlers with "If I may" skepticism, the Jerry Hall videos get unleashed. This will surely be terrible.

[BeenThereDoneThat]

And maybe some brave soul could also offer some facts on DDT before Zika strikes American communities. Old article but good reminder:

http://spectator.org/articles/48925/ddt-fraud-and-tragedy

[Miss Marple 2]

It occurs to me that the cold weather is giving us a little more time to prepare a mosquito war, if anyone would get off their butts and do something.

[Captain Hate]

Levin has been over what a hot steaming pile Rachel Carson produced, which weaved its way into general knowledge with MFM complicity as much as Disney's staged lies about lemmings.

[buccaneer morgan]

In a similar vein, you'll be happy to know they've switched from art therapy to gift subsidies for detainee rehabilitation, it didn't quite work.

[Captain Hate]

Regarding the Brown Pelican, even my green daughter says it's past time to take those abundantly plentiful pests off the endangered species list.

[buccaneer morgan]

Yes but then would grisham get the subject for his pedantic thrillers.

[Captain Hate]

The 404 interview begins as Zippy says Merrick Garland is the greatest ambulance chaser everrrrr and deserves to be treated fairly. 404 pretends what he did against Alito never happened and everybody will love Garland. The democrats might respond to a refusal to give Garland a hearing by doing the same thing in the future. Zounds.

Is obviously more concerned about Muslim civilians than American citizens. "I'm the one who comforts the survivors of terrorist attacks". "I show resolve by playing golf". "I have to be careful on giving Rodham complete exoneration but she's been great on security issues".

[Captain Hate]

Zippy guarantees he hasn't influenced Lynch and grows irritated when Wallace presses him; watch out Rupert. Six straight years of job growth!! We've done better than we get credit for because Republicans hate us.

[Captain Hate]

We are the envy of the world in everything as long as we compromise and then it ends. Complete waste of time.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ISLAMIC_STATE_AMERICANS_UNEXPECTED_RADICAL?SITE=NCAGW&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-04-09-17-24-17

"Surrounded by positives, young Somali chose Islamic State"

[buccaneer morgan]

Matt apuzzo has another thumbsucker.

[Captain Hate]

Panel time. Rove: Zippy shouldn't have said anything about Rodham. Lerner skated for political reasons and people don't trust Lynch. Bob Woodward: Rodham will be let off because there was no intent on her part. Thinks 404 should've kept quiet about it. Will: thinks Zippy is an idiot for the defense he gives Rodham. Anne Gearan: gives 404 a pass on Garland and terrorism. Rove: the more Zippy insinuates himself into the election, the better it is for the GOP. Gearen seems to think that Rodham wants his input. Will: Zippy comes off like a condescending jackass when discussing terrorism.

[jimmyk]

Between Clarice's column (which was great, of course) and that piece narc linked last night about the recent Superman movies (in which, apparently, Superman's efforts to do good cause bad stuff to happen), and that Caroline Glick piece Iggy linked the other day (Jews and Christians, who pre-dated Muslims, are interlopers in the Middle East), we seem to be spiraling into madness and nihilism. Good is evil, men are women. I'm sure a large majority thinks this is nuts, but seems to be yielding to it nonetheless. I don't see how it ends well unless there is serious resistance now.

[buccaneer morgan]

We're through the lookingglass here people.

[Free James D!]

Zippy comes off like a condescending jackass when discussing terrorism.

He IS a condescending jackass, when discussing absolutely any topic.

[rich@gmu]

jimmyk-

>>>we seem to be spiraling into madness and nihilism<<<

spiraled.

the link to Clarice's Pieces this chilly am

http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/04/the_war_on_women_moves_to_restrooms.html

poke around to read the story of the CEI subpoena too.

[jimmyk]

I think it's partly that good people have other priorities like their families, work, etc., and people who push back get labeled as "racists," etc. I know I'm going all "squaredance" here, but we can't keep letting the cancer grow.

[Captain Hate]

Rove: Trump has made smart personnel moves but did so too late regarding snagging delegates after the first vote. Will: Cruz isn't trying to win New York but pick up delegates. Gearan: criticizing New York values helps Cruz in most of the nation. Rodham is still comfortably ahead despite Bern's recent wins. Woodward thinks Rodham is amazingly qualified but people don't trust her. Rove: the donk contest is over. After acting dense he says she has major general election problems. Will: super delegates were created to prevent another McGovern which rules out the Bern.

And that's a wrap.

[Miss Marple 2]

Captain Hate,

Many, many thanks! I would need two Bloody Mary's to get through that show.

And then I wouldn't be able to type!

[Buckeye]

jimmyk

You don't have to apologize to me. When the revolution starts, remember that bureaucrats and lefty journalists are at the top of the list.

Start stacking them up like cord wood on the Mall and people will get the message.

How's that for a turd in the punchbowl?

[rich@gmu]

via the other thread and since it turned out well ...

Posted by: MaryD | April 09, 2016 at 08:03 PM

in the oven at about 400 degrees for about an hour ... let it roast for 30 minutes on 1 side then 30 minutes on the other (the oven thermometer isn't very good but it came out of the oven at about 155). seasoned with salt, pepper, paprika, and 2 tablespoons or so of butter.

needed a nap afterwards ...

additionally (in re: Clarice's Pieces) the DOE "Civil Rights Division" has pestered Fairfax schools to letting weirdoes use the girl's restrooms and locker room. Fairfax is suing Judicial Watch to prevent any of the documents from being made public (my guess is that a gay activist at DOE and a gay activist in Fairfax schools are colluding).

[Captain Hate]

I couldn't endure at the end Wallace walking with him and conducting a "lightning round". Enough!

[buccaneer morgan]

Well Romans and before that Leviticus warned us of this plight.

[jimmyk]

I see ValJar's hands in all of this.

This was the Glick piece I mentioned that Iggy had linked, in case anyone missed it. She doesn't mention Jarrett, but her presence is felt.

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0416/glick040816.php3

[rich@gmu]

Posted by: jimmyk | April 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM

people are also ruined professionally and financially if "they step out of line" so there is that. Much easier to "ignore it in the hopes it just goes away".

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[clarice]

Im with you, jimmyk--I'd like to se it start with massive resistance to the Title IX directives in colleges and k-12 schools. I think it's a winning issue. Let DOJ sue every college and school district in America.
I wish I knew where Lhamon's children go to school--you can be sure that private school students are not under these directives--like Sidwell --and schools with large Moslem populations will never be sued for not allowing men in womens bathrooms or for "sexual harrassment: whatever doE determines it is.

[rich@gmu]

jimmyk-

let your inner squaredance out!

[rich@gmu]

can't say that I enjoyed your column today Clarice but it was well done. a sign of the times.

I wonder if Apple's China factories have gender neutral bathrooms and domestic partner benefits?

hahahahahahaha ...

[Captain Hate]

I'm tired of sounding like a broken record but the lack of GOP opposition over the last seven years has let the situation jimmyk describes reach its present status. They have been given clear marching orders and have come up short every time. They don't have an ideological commitment to American values no matter how they campaign.

[The Wolf Who Cried Boy]

Bill Clinton utters the only sane statement made by a Democrat in years.

And then apolgizes the next day.

Robespierre-flavored Kool-Aid--yum!

[Buckeye]

I'm sure many thought that the patriots taking out redcoats was beyond the pale and totally unacceptable in a "civilized" society.

Luckily, our ancestors didn't go all wobbly, and choose to ignore that sentiment.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Why do only men who "identify" as women get to use women's [and girls', let's not forget] bathrooms and locker rooms?
If "dignity" is the touchstone of sensitivity and right, as Justice Reverend Kennedy informed us the when are voyeurs going to be given some dignity and rights?

We can't keep them out of women's bathrooms simply because it makes women uncomfortable having a guy with a johnson in the same bathroom, obviously.

Why should a man who identifies as a man who likes to look at naked women or women going to the bathroom be oppressed by society to the point of having to assume the false identity of being a man who identifies as a woman who likes to look at naked women and women going to the bathroom?

So long as he does nothing more than use the facilities and not display any overt abnormal behavior, shouldn't women just be expected to overcome their aversion to freaks in their bathrooms in the name of civil rights?
By what right does society deprive him of the right to his sexual identity? Where's his safe space?

[Buckeye]

They don't have an ideological commitment to American values no matter how they campaign.

No shortage of ideological commitment to un-American values amongst the Dems, lead by Zippy and ValJar.

[glasater]

CNN's Reliable Sources has quite the conversation on whether Megyn Kelly is going to stay at Fox.

Let her go..away..!

[Miss Marple 2]

glasater,

I agree.

[Buckeye]

We just watched a short clip on a PBS channel about a mom in LA growing lots of produce in a really small backyard.

She made all kinds of points about how "green" everything was, composting with veggie scraps,etc.

I am fine with all of that, I like freshstuff too.

But I was floored when they showed her jars of canned goods and she explained that she was a "Master Food Preserver".

What?

I thought when you gained that skill, you were called "Grandma".

[MaryD]

rich, thanks for the pork roast tips! I'll be doing one this week. Will let you know how it turns out.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Meghan McCardle on inconvenient truths being silenced through subpoena power, re climate change hysteria.
She, as always, is only partially right, but unlike most on her side of things she is also often right, if only in the most apologetic way.

[Captain Hate]

Let The Magpie Inc fly away.

[jimmyk]

massive resistance to the Title IX directives in colleges and k-12 schools.

Yes, Clarice, but two problems: Too many administrators are eager and willing co-conspirators. And those that are not, fear the loss of federal funds. It's a total extortion racket.

That's why I was a bit disappointed with Cruz when he said he wanted to get the Feds out of education by going to "block grants," presumably meaning no strings attached. That's very short-sighted, as there will always be strings attached. The only excuse for it would be tit-for-tat: Threaten loss of funding for any school that lets men into women's bathrooms, etc. But better to just stop all federal funding. If there is to be research funding (hi Dr J!) it's got to be somehow shifted to an independent non-governmental entity.

[Momto2]

Clarice - your "Pieces" was excellent! I expect an eventual clash between the Muslims and this policy. While the powers that be have no problem with our Christian girls being made uncomfortable or much worse, if the Muslims protest this new arrangement it may place them between a rock and a hard place!

Buckeye - I am often amused at how the regular old things my parents and grandparents did are now considered *so* cutting edge and laudable. These things include gardening, preserving food, having a cow and chickens for milk and eggs, composting waste products, re-using items instead of disposing of everything. My grandmother actually washed and re-used foil and plastic bags. (She lived through the depression) Naturally this all has to be re-named with things like "Farm to Table" and "resource structuring" and "green this, that, and the other".

Tying these two together - I think the big problem is that we will soon no longer be able to label ourselves as "male" and "female" and will need new improved words. Then, in a few generations - *maybe* they will cycle back to the remarkable idea that boys and girls need separate restrooms and locker rooms! Of course this will only happen if it is viewed as new, innovative, and their own original idea.

[jimmyk]

*maybe* they will cycle back

I don't remember which book, but I believe the great Tom Wolfe documented how some hippies in communes once decided that toothbrushes and toothpaste were some kind of corporate conspiracy, and discarded them. At some point they learned the hard way that maybe those items were not such a bad idea, and went back to using them. That always struck me as a great allegory for all these attempts to discard accumulated wisdom for abstract ideals.

[Old Lurker]

Cap'n "I'm tired of sounding like a broken record but..."

Now now Cap'n! Don't go making up a new JOM rule along that line or else I will be banned for good.

[Beasts of England]

Happy Masters Sunday!!

The final pairing is 22 year old Jason Spieth and a 24 year old. (Get off my lawn!!) The 'older gentleman' is Smylie Kaufman from Birmingham, Alabama. Hey - I have a gorgeous 24 year old daughter in Birmingham! Be right back...

[buccaneer morgan]

The problem is as rse might put it, the insitutionalization of mind arson.

[Beasts of England]

*Jordan* not Jason. That's a triple bogey for Beasts. Ugh.

[Miss Marple 2]

James Martin, SJ ‏@JamesMartinSJ 19m19 minutes ago

Fr Lombardi confirms @BernieSanders was indeed invited to Vatican, by Bishop Sanchez, chancellor of Pontifical Council for Social Sciences.
3 retweets 4 likes
--------------------------------

A couple of days ago the line was that Bernie asked to come.

Once again, double talk from the Vatican.

[rich@gmu]

jimmyk-

The Great Re-Learning.

https://www.unz.org/Pub/AmSpectator-1987dec-00014

[rich@gmu]

hey Beasts. Enjoy the golf.

[Buckeye]

Beasts,

Buckeye Jr. told us around the dinner table last week that with the upcoming finish of his Residency there would be a couple of social events he wanted us to attend.

His 28 year old sister, unattached, seized on the opportunity to make sure the invite included her.

No fool that girl, she knows what a target rich environment is.

A guy named Smylie would be a natural as a SIL.

[clarice]

Jimmyk:"Yes, Clarice, but two problems: Too many administrators are eager and willing co-conspirators. And those that are not, fear the loss of federal funds. It's a total extortion racket."

I wonder how much of the increased education administrative overload is due to complying with federal mandates. Add to that the cost of defending in litigation brought in increasing number by students g injured by the Title IX dictators..I wonder how much this offsets the value of federal grants.

[Beasts of England]

Hey rich!!

Target rich environment is correct, Buckeye! Smylie had a great post-round interview with Nance. He still lives at home and drives an '06 Nissan Murano. If he shoots even or better today, I'm sure upgrades to both are indicated. lol

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

I have long held the opinion that federal mandates and programs exist for no other reason than to fund the assorted administrators, social scientists,thin tanks and busybody employees who if they were not employed in these programs, would be rattling tin cups on the street corner.

Poor people and various grievance groups are the excuse to shovel dollars to all these employees. The supposed targets of these programs (the poor, the victimized, the marginalized) actually receive minimal benefit from these programs.

[rich@gmu]

Clarice got an Instalanch

[matt]

Bjorn Lomberg had an excellent op/ed in Friday's WSJ challenging 404's narrative that AGW will cause more deaths.

Lomberg pointed out the statistics that cold kills far more people every year than heat.

The lies and assaults on liberty by the Left are dialed up to 11.

We may lose Nauru, but by golly we'll hold the line at Tahiti.

[clarice]

Thanks, Rich--didn't see that.

[jimmyk]

Thanks, rich @12:43, it wasn't exactly as I remembered it, but the same idea.

Clarice and MM, yes, definitely. I remember challenging someone in my upper admin about why we had (in a budget crunch) an office for sustainability with a (probably six-figure salaried) administrator. I was told that it was a combination of government dollars and mandates.

Grant administration is huge, and if you could only see (Dr J can attest, I'm sure) the number of bureaucratic forms you have to fill out (No animals harmed, no human experiments, impact statements, yada), plus all the compliance--some inevitable, but it's grown like mold over the years.

But the Title IX stuff is especially overwhelming now, and that's happened under Barry and ValJar's rule.

[DrJ]

Grant administration is huge

Fortunately most here have no idea.

One of the largest departments on any research-active campus is the Sponsored Projects Office (or similar). They do two primary things: they help faculty submit grant applications, and then administer them once they are awarded. The latter includes the finances, compliance, subaward negotiation, and so forth.

They also tend to annual requirements including research integrity and indirect cost negotiation.

And these have nothing to do with things like the diversity office, which NSF in particular requires.

Animal and human subjects is another huge compliance sink. There are multiple annual certifications required, and keeping an Institutional Review Board running takes a *lot* of resources, including monitoring the approved plans for compliance.

I've been careful to avoid most of these by choosing my grant topics carefully, but it always is part of proposal planning. If you make a mistake in this area, you will lose money on the award. It can be a great deal of money.

[Jack is Back!]

Beasts,

Smylie has a younger brother named Lucky😊

Seriously! Should be on his bag.

Sports story of the year may be if Leicester City wins the Premiership in England. Last year they avoided relegation in their last game. This would be the equivalent of the Cleveland Browns winning the 2016 Super Bowl with the same personnel they had in 2015.

[Buckeye]

DrJ, I saw Man Tran a couple weeks ago and he mentioned having met (at least I think so?) you but I didn't catch where your lab was?

[Hugh Hewitt]

The Browns are going to win the Super Bowl next year. You can take it to the bank.

[DrJ]

Buckeye,

My lab is located between Sacramento and Lake Tahoe in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada.

[Jack is Back!]

Hugh,

But they have to do it with Johnny Football as QB.

[Buckeye]

OK, that makes sense, He mentioned the foothills but I didn't know what mountains he was talking about.

Maybe that is roughly where Iggy is also? Seemed like that is what he was saying. I correctly deduced that Iggy was in the logging business.

[DrJ]

Iggy lives a couple of hours south of me.

[Buckeye]

Only good thing about Hugh taking Bennett's slot is that he doesn't bad mouth the Buckeye's;)

[Beasts of England]

The younger Beastette reports that one of her Tri Delta sisters dated Smylie in High School! Getting closer...

[Beasts of England]

lol, JiB!!

[Buckeye]

Beasts, my plan is that one of my kids will do really well. Then they can build an apartment for me and the Mrs. over the garage. I will change the oil in the Ferrari and cut the grass.

Maybe you could do the same?

Forgot! You already have the Ferrari.

[Beasts of England]

That's a perfect plan, Buckeye! I'm not much for mowing grass, though - and I'm not allowed around tools or sharp objects. ;)

[lyle]

Just wondering, have any of you read Michael Walsh's The Devil's Pleasure Palace? Love to get anyone's opinion if so. After several abortive attempts I'm diving into it. Fascinating so far.

Apropos of nothing, Bernhard Langer and I are the same age. He looks like Clint Eastwood. I don't. :) Also, is there a contemporary golfer who got more hype when he first hit the circuit and has utterly failed to live up to it than Sergio Garcia? I can't think of one.

[Buckeye]

Beasts,

I didn't think much of cutting grass until my BIL let me play with his fancy zero-turn lawnmower.

For $17k you even get a cup holder for adult beverages;)

[buccaneer morgan]

So quelle surprise, it looks like the brussels cells had another Paris attack in mind, along with the other targets, which they haven't mentioned.

[Beasts of England]

He has sick skills, lyle. According to a buddy of mine who played with him at Firestone a few years back, he got greatly distracted by off-course activities. To wit: when my friend asked him about the ladies hanging around the Tour, he replied to their foursome - 'Gentlemen, you would not believe!' Not that there's anything wrong with that...

[lyle]

Oh, and on the post op report on my dinner with a passel of screaming libs last night, I can safely report all went well. A mag of '09 Fourshaume Chablis, a mag of '05 Pine Ridge Rutherford Cab, and two bottles Brancaia Il Blu, the convo veered only slightly into abortion but it was only because Connie's daughter revealed the mom had one back in the bad old days. Other than that everything was fine. Good wine appreciated by everyone helps...

[jimmyk]

I guess Chris Wallace kept sucking up to Barry by calling him "law professor"?

teriobrien ‏@teriobrien

.@FoxNewsSundayChris why did you keep referring to #Obama as a "law professor?" He was no such thing. U know diff between that an adjunct

And a picture is worth 1000 words when it comes to media pandering to Democrats.

Kyle Drennen ‏@kjdrennen Apr 8

VIDEO: http://ow.ly/10rITk Lauer to Hillary: GOP "clinging to the hope" of you in "handcuffs"

[lyle]

I can totally believe that, Beasts.

[Buckeye]

Assuming you have the basic skills mastered, I think golf is one of the more mental sports.

I don't play often anymore, and consequentially, not that well either. But occasionally when my head is really clear, and I can focus, I have been surprised at how well I can play.

Doesn't happen frequently enough to encourage putting serious money on it, but a pleasant surprise when it happens.

I am amazed that pros can stay as focused as they do.

[Beasts of England]

Leaders are off - game face on!! Y'all be good!

[lyle]

I'd settle for leg irons...

[Captain Hate]

Also, is there a contemporary golfer who got more hype when he first hit the circuit and has utterly failed to live up to it than Sergio Garcia? I can't think of one.

David Duval?

[lyle]

Possibly, CH. I don't remember DD getting near as much hype and early tv ad airtime and product placement, though.

[daddy]

Good Morning!

Have been absent the last few days because I was once again going thru my 3 day Annual Training/Checkride punishment. You have to show up at the Classroom at the un-Godly hour of 06:30 AM (which is punishment enough all by itself for a Night-Owl like me), but then you climb in the simulator and they clobber you with exploding engines and insidious airspeed problems, and then you do the "Squirrel Cage" and catch on fire and bells and whistles and oxygen masks and all the rest, and it is an ugly chore if like me, you're the type that hates all that.

It's odd how this sort of training effects different people. I get all nervous and anxiety ridden, yet others take it as no big deal whatever, and some actually seem to enjoy it. There's no explaining people. I get hardly any sleep during the process---after night one I had a nutty dream about meeting Charles Darwin:) Night 2 I woke up in a dream to find I was inhaling and holding my breath, dreaming that my lungs had lost the ability to breath. But after a "thumbs up" and successful completion of the training yesterday, my dream from last night was of having a ball climbing around some ancient pyramid in the desert. Paging Dr Freud...

So haven't read a word of JOM in 3 days, because during these evolutions my head is so full of the numbers and procedures you have to have ready at immediate recall that there' no room for anything else. Thank goodness that's over with. I've already ram-dumped 99% of it back into a mental hole I hopefully won't need till next time.

Anyhow, my final evaluator, Kate, was an old friend who was at the "Chakra" Retirement festivity I wrote about last week, so we had plenty of fun jabbering about that insanity during coffee breaks. In one break we were down in the break room and the Masters Golf Tourney was on. I asked if she had ever played golf and she said that she had recently played with her mother in Tucson. I recalled that 15 years back, following her last flight with me as a Co-Pilot, and just 2 weeks prior to going to starting upgrade training to become a Captain, Kate was heading off to donate a kidney to her mother. I asked her which kidney won, the one in her body or the one in Mom's body? She got a kick out of that question, and that got us talking about kidneys.
She said that both kidneys are doing fine and the doctors say they think Mom's kidney will definitely outlast Mom. Kate says she has never had a problem with only one---she simply takes good care of herself and she is told she cannot run a Marathon, which she said she is very grateful for. We started wondering what else in the human body comes in 2's like that, but where you only need one, and why would a body created by God or evolution build such a redundancy? Why not 2 livers for instance? She then said that she has read where usually when 1 fails, they both fail, and also that there are instances of people born with 3 kidneys.

Well I did not know all this kidney business but it sounds fascinating, so hopefully on my Library run after today's Masters Tourney, I can find a good book on Kidneys.

Anonomom, do you or anyone here have an interesting book recommendation on such stuff?

[Jack is Back!]

Buckeye,

Ray Floyd says it the only sport that requires intense concentration and absolute relaxation at the same time.

[Miss Marple 2]

I think golf must have the same effect as choral singing did on me.

You have to concentrate on the written music, the choir director, your own singing, breathing, and diction.

I used to go to practive tired from work, but after 2 hours of practice where everything else was driven out of my mind, I would be surprisingly refreshed.

I bet golf does the same thing.

[buccaneer morgan]

The idiot Parisian Mayer removed all doubt again.