Saving Ben Sasse

The highest elected NeverTrumper is in trouble in his home state.

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[maryrose]

clarice
Continuing as a US senator is not exactly rotting.
At least he had the courage of his convictions and fought the good fight.

[Beasts of England]

It's unprecedented to speak out against your party's front runner in the primary. It's extraordinarily irresponsible. If he wants to endorse someone, that's great, but to run his mouth against any individual like that? Reprehensible.

And you've become increasingly disingenuous, maryrose. It's tiresome. And who is the 'we' and 'us' you keep referencing? Good grief...

[jimmyk]

And so it begins: The NYT has a "Special Report":

Donald Trump has repeatedly unnerved women in private encounters over 40 years. Here are their stories.

Won't link it or even read it. The NYT is a parody of a serious newspaper.

[Threadkiller]

They sent him to Washington to represent their concerns.
Oh?

From TM'link:

Earlier this week, running effectively unopposed, Trump carried Nebraska 61 to 18 percent over Ted Cruz, whose name still appeared on the ballot.

Seems like their concern is to put Trump in the Oval Office. Sasse's conscience can override that?

[daddy (go Tycho Brahe!)]

Oh, noze!!

This reminds me of an odd medical story I came across a few days back, something called "Empty Nose Syndrome: Is "Empty Nose Syndrome" Real? And If Not, Why Are People Killing Themselves Over It?

It's a long one, but since it's the weekend it may be of interest if you've got spare time.

I thought it interesting reading some years back that the lead singer for Aussie Rock-band INXS, had had a brain injury causing him to lose his sense of smell and taste, and that the depression that resulted ultimately lead to him committing suicide.

This new "Empty Nose" Syndrome, seems to arise in folks who have had nasal surgery to correct deviated septums, and that in some patients, when perhaps too much of some of the inner nasal tissue is removed, the unwanted side result is a sensation that there is no nose, and in the case of the subject in this article and others, massive depression leading to suicide.

Just thought I'd post it to see if Dr Anonomom has ever heard of it and had any input. I couldn't remember if she was an Ear/Nose/Throat gal. Makes me think I might just be better off making momma live with my snoring.

[Miss Marple 2]

61% of Nebraska GOP voters supported Trump.

Sasse is not paying attention.

Probably believing his press clippings.

[MaryD]

A bit OT, but is anyone else here ready to give that little creep Josh Ernest an atomic wedgie?

The dream of my life at this point is to beat the living daylights out of him (On live TV).

[Miss Marple 2]

I agree, MaryD.

He reminds me of this:

[MaryD]

With apologies to mom and dad, who tried to bring me up properly.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.politico.eu/article/sadiq-khan-vows-to-help-hillary-clinton-defeat-donald-trump-us-presidential-election-america-president/

First he threatens us with jihad if we don't let Muslims in. Now this.

Voting for Trump is important to send a message to the rest of the world that we are not surrendering.

Particularly to this Khan guy, who is way too full of himself.

[MaryD]

Thanks,Miss Marple! Between the two of us he would not have a chance!

[What a clueless twit]

I love being led around by the nose by our betters. I particularly love being told to love it by vacuous twits.

[anonamom]

I have no problem with someone not endorsing Trump for conscientious reasons.

The problem is with people in "leadership" positions in the Republican party who are ANNOUNCING they are not endorsing the obvious candidate.

There is NOTHING they are going to do to change his essential personality; if he is unsuitable to be the fellow with that nuclear football, then say so at a 8pm press conference, change the rules for the convention and nominate somebody else.

But the crap that has been going on since Indiana is utterly juvenile. Middle school!

Hopefully, the word (poll results, whatever) is filtering through to the clueless ones that Trump isn't going to have a problem with Hispanics, or employed blacks, or even college educated whites outside of the Acela corridor.

These are the people that kept Jeb! in forever, which knocked out Rubio.
And don't seem to understand that every vote for Trump and Cruz was a big "we are so done with you" to the GOPe. Add those votes up, boys.

Not to mention taking out Cantor, and getting rid of Boehner.

Geez, are they deaf, dumb and blind????

[Theo]

Jimmyk --

Yes, so it begins. The first of many many hit pieces by the NYT. But they persuade no one, just confirm their readers high opinion of themselves and low opinion of anyone else.

[daddy (go Tycho Brahe!)]

BTW,

I did not remember that Tycho Brahe had a pet moose that drank beer. Apparently it drank so much at some nobles party it fell down some stairs killing itself.

[Beasts of England]

Exactly, anonamom!! I tally the #NeverGOPe vote at ~70%. :)

[Jeff Dobbs]

Awww, thanks, maryrose . . . and clarice from last thread.

I've now been married 22 years to the woman who hung the moon. I am the luckiest man who ever lived.

mrs hit and run still gives me butterflies every time our eyes meet.

[maryrose]

MaryD
I have felt that way wrt Josh Earnest.Ditto apologies to my mom and dad.
Beasts you and I are opposites on the Meyers Briggs test and I am sorry if telling the facts is tiresome to you.
Personal attacks exception Hillary and Obama I consider counter- productive.
Unprecedented?
How about at the convention Ford and Romney.
There the actual nomination was at stake and people took sides.
We includes my family and other JOM Drs who post here at times.
I see us as a tag team.
We come in and put out the fires and provide a different take on events as they unfold.
Eventually it will all play out the way you hope it does.
Contrary to some beliefs it is not to say 'I told you so'
It is to get the strongest candidate in November.

[cheerleader]

Miss Marple did you ever think that Indiana would be the clincher for Mr. Trump? That state was so important.

[Lurker Susie]

Nebraska does not seem to be happy with their newly elected senator

Robynn Tysver ‎@RobynnTysver
Delegate after delegate at State GOP Convention say they're "disappointed" with Sasse for heading national anti-Trump movement
2:22 PM - 14 May 2016
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[maryrose]

Should be Reagan. sorry

[Captain Hate]

He needs to know his role and shut his hole.

That sounds like a quote from The Rock.

[Miss Marple 2]

anonamom,

I think they are BOUGHT.

The Chamber of Commerce is making their displeasure known. That's another group I would like to see lose influence.

You cannot convince me that Romney is pulling strings to get people like Ryan and Mike Lee to withhold their endorsements.

And Sasse is looking to become the darling of the conservative wing. (This is pretty funny as I discovered he worked for the Bush Administration, was president of a college (Midwest University) and was endorsed not only by Cruz and Palin, but by National Review and Club for Growth. Not exactly an "outsider.")

While I applaud a senator standing firm on an issue in the Senate on behalf of his constituents, I find it reprehensible that a senator would post a screed against the party's nominee, and I can only conclude he is carving out a niche for himself, probably to run for POTUS in 2020 if Trump doesn't win.

His screed meant that he thinks he can run in 2020, which means he is HOPING Trump loses, and therefore Hillary would be president.

He cares nothing for the people, only himself.

[maryrose]

Jeff
That might be the nicest post ever. What a lovely compliment to your better half!

[maryrose]

Lurker Susie
Sasse has 4 years to win them over and a Repub president needs to keep them on his side.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Romney needs an intervention.

[Miss Marple 2]

Jeff,

Nice to see you! Happy anniversary!

[maryrose]

Nebraska if Cruz had stayed in May have yielded a different result in the ultimate numbers. Not a victory for Cruz but probably more votes
7 and half million votes but I believe I have posted that truth before.

[cheerleader]

The candidate who got more votes than any other primary candidate in the history of the Republican party is the strongest candidate.

[MaryD]

Happy Anniversary to Mr. and Mrs. Dobbs!

[Twittle twattle priggish fodder for the cannons]

Telling the facts? LOLOLOL

We includes my family and other JOM Drs who post here at times.
I see us as a tag team.
We come in and put out the fires and provide a different take on events as they unfold.

Aren't you spechul? Wow. Could you get just a leettle more priggish? That classroom authority sure has gone to your head. Twit.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

-- if Satan himself were running against Hillary Clinton for any office--

Mark 3:
23So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? 24If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.

[Momto2]

maryrose if you don't think Mitt's comments have any effect - you should turn on CBS news one morning. The FIRST story this morning was all about Romney/Trump and it lasted over 8 full minutes.

It included Mitt's statements but then elaborated and asked in hushed tones, "What damaging information might his tax returns contain???"

This is just a bit beyond having his own misgivings or opinions. This is giving ammunition to "the enemy" which is not just the Dem but also the MSM.

[maryrose]

Cheerleader
He can be bigger stronger and better and he will be.
It is imperative that he win over as many people as possible.
Every single vote counts.
We cannot allow anything to chance.
People will come around in time.

[Beasts of England]

What facts are you telling me, maryrose? What fires are you putting out? And why do you need a 'tag team' - can your opinions not stand independently?

And you're conflating a lot of issues, with regard to a convention fight and some junior Senator coming out against a candidate in the early primary.

It's certainly not playing out the way I want - I wanted Walker. Trump was probably last on my list at the start, but he's first now. Period.

I'm glad you think your efforts are to ensure the strongest candidate, but it consistently reads like sour grapes.

[maryrose]

Momto2
Nobody trusts the news media anymore
When these claims turn up nothing unusual then it will be on to something else.
Dems will stop at nothing.
Better be prepared by getting your positions on their goofy questions ahead of time.

[Captain Hate]

And Sasse is looking to become the darling of the conservative wing.

I'm having a hard time with this malleable daffynition of "conservative". I readily concede that Trump is not conservative on many major issues, but neither was Romney or GWB. Sasse might be as conservative as Cruz but this grandstanding alliance with the GOPe, enemy of small government, makes him an almost impossible sell for me in the future. I don't consider it conservative to pout about somebody who won, fair and square by the rules in place, the amount of primary votes needed for the party's nomination. I sucked it up four years ago for Romney and Sasse should damn well do the same.

[cheerleader]

I read a post today that called The Washington Post, "The Amazon Post". I'm going to steal that.

[Jack is Back!]

The most important vote tonight is taking place right now: Eurovision.

It appears that its between Russia and the Ukraine with the UK coming up short.

If you have never had the pleasure or to some torture of enduring or enjoying the Eurovision song contest then you are missing the biggest contest of cultural klitsch in the world.

First year with out Sir Terry Wogan as the BBC presenter. He is missed by Mrs. JiB and myself as we sit here live streaming it.

[maryrose]

Beasts
You are entitled to your opinion.
I think many here are worrying over situations that just aren't going to happen.
The nominee has been chosen yet all who voice any doubt or reservation are trashed and burned( hence putting out the fire)
Tag team is other posters who step in when one of us can't go on because of other commitments.
It is not sour grapes.
I have said I will vote for the nominee.
Others will come to their own conclusions I good time
The intolerance is surprising to me.

[Twittle twattle priggish fodder for the cannons]

Changes in platitudues, no changes in attitudes.

Ohhh PollyAnna wants a cracker and a clue a do a do....

[Miss Marple 2]

I made a pledge to not say anything until the convention was over.

I am sticking to it, even though it's hard.

Unlike the Bushes, I keep my word.

[Ol' Scratch]

I gladly accept James D's support. I am announcing my 3rd Party bid because I'm disappointed in the quality of evil in this election.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Happened by some guy named Huang doing some show on some cable channel named Vice. Don't know anything about either one.
What is humorous is watching him celebrating the multicultural aspects of the delightful island Sicily and how more of it would be a dandy thing indeed.

The same people who make careers out of documenting the horrors of the white man's coming to America and the resultant "genocide" can't get enough of the ghastly, recurring, murderous invasions of Greeks, Romans, barbarians, Moors, etc [is there anyone who hasn't invaded and devastated Sicily?] because they leave behind different tasty dishes you can grab from a street vendor.
The left has one culture; mindlessness.

[maryrose]

Capt
You may be a better man than Sasse
It takes longer for some people
Principles are hard to live by and the shock of this nominee who complained about the rules throughout is just tougher for some people He will have to get along with him when he becomes president.
TLG
Hope you are having fun with those two grandchildren.

[Captain Hate]

[is there anyone who hasn't invaded and devastated Sicily?]

My faves were the Normans.

[JM Hanes]

Clarice:

[We will absolutely meet up in Hawaii at some point!]

Thanks for the pointer to the Samuels’ rejoinder in Through the Looking Glass With Ben Rhodes. Sounds like the press corps took more umbrage at his article than the White House did!

[Beasts of England]

It's not an issue of intolerance - good grief. It's an issue of what is productive and what is not.

Trump has received more votes than any Republican primary candidate ever. With more states to vote, including California. That, in and of itself, says all that can be said about how good of a candidate he is. He doesn't need any 'help' from his detractors. Sheesh.

[clarice]

Oh, Jeff--how could Claire not love you? I mean--I'm a very hard marker and I do, too.

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

What color is the sky around that mansion you built in your addled head?

Priggish imbecility, it ain't winning, but it's righteous!

[rich@gmu]

a happy anniversary to the hit and run and his lovely wife.

[Miss Marple 2]

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/05/how-a-fossil-offers-a-warning-to-climate-science

This is very interesting, as it changes the date of when the Panama land bridge formed.

[Captain Hate]

maryrose, you've been dishing out and taking a lot of slings and arrows, but for giving me a nice response here's a slightly dyslexic song for you:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tr6H1a7YUac

Happy anniversary, Jeff.

[clarice]

Maryrose, I love you, but it ir getting tiresome now that the die is cast. Romney's rotting because he lost a race that was his to run, didn't run again, has virtually no support, and no donors are lining up for his 3d party. At the moment he and Sasse are playing dogs in the manger to my disgust.

[Miss Marple 2]

Beasts,

I very much doubt that anyone from the GOP, the GOPe, the Trump campaign, or anyone else with influence reads this blog for pointers on how to improve.

[clarice]

Here's something more pleasant--the greens get it hard:https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/05/13/breaking-cei-defeats-rico-20-ringleader-shukla-in-foia-lawsuit-emails-to-be-made-public/

[Beasts of England]

When Miss Marple was the only one supporting Trump a few months back, she was subjected to daily ridicule from several commenters, so the 'trashed and burned' comment is laughable. Rick Ballard called Trump's supporters 'rubes' several times a day. It was vulgar.

[cheerleader]

maryrose,

Mr. Trump won because his campaign manager had a sign up on the campaign office wall that said "Let Trump be Trump".

Ryan et al want him to conform to their ideas of how a "conservative should behave. But it's not Mr. Trump who has to change, it's the people who are trying to change him who have to change.

They can accept him as he is and jump on the Trump Train, or not, but he's not going to change for any one.

And if he does change, which he won't, he'll lose.

[Momto2]

Tag team is other posters who step in when one of us can't go on because of other commitments.

Do you have a formalized schedule? How do you know when one of you cannot go on or has other commitments?

[clarice]

You're welcome. jmh.

[Beasts of England]

Happy Anniversary, Mr. and Mrs. Hit and Run!!

[maryrose]

JM Hanes
The WH was cheering Rhoades on and now have egg on their face.

[maryrose]

Walker was my first choice as well.

[maryrose]

Momto2
I am waiting for some relief as we speak.

[Miss Marple 2]

William Wallace weeps:

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/05/13/local-government-approves-covert-spying-via-fake-facebook-profiles/

[clarice]

Almost all of us had walker as a first choice. He's young, maybe he'll try again with a different approach. My own feeling is his Kool Kampaign Konsultants and the RNC-approved chorus line format did him in.

[Miss Marple 2]

Thanks, Beasts!

I am pretty tough after dealing with my personal life over the last two years (!!!!! STILL NOT SETTLED!!!!) but I appreciate someone noticing.

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

The cracker crumbs from Polly's platitudes ain't changin your mind, Clarice? Their righteous!

Hey! A cup of smug might help you get on the firetruck. The fires! The fires!

[Beasts of England]

Miss Marple, there were several times I was going to defend you, but you kept doing such a great job of it yourself!! :)

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

Walker needs to step up his speaking skills, drop a little of his reluctance to interrupt during a debate, get a better haircut, and get out into the country outside of Wisconsin.

He should probably start appearing on some talk/news shows, writing some articles, etc.

His wife should sign up for a high-profile charity. (My suggestion would be animal rescue, as it tugs at heart strings and is bullet-proof for controversy.)

Also, maybe he should hire a consultant like Corey Lewandowski!!!

[anonamom]

At this very minute, Garrison Keilor is entertaining the libs by singing a song Paul Ryan
to the tune of They Call the Wind Mariah.

Just what the Rs need---satire, parody, and ridicule.

That's why he needs to STFU if not endorse him in the next ten minutes.

[clarice]

Something like that, MM.

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

I am waiting for some relief as we speak.

OMG...Related to TBT? or Theo? LOL

I'd suggest some Alka Seltzer but it don't work on head cases and thorazine requires a scrip.

[Captain Hate]

When Miss Marple was the only one supporting Trump a few months back, she was subjected to daily ridicule from several commenters, so the 'trashed and burned' comment is laughable. Rick Ballard called Trump's supporters 'rubes' several times a day. It was vulgar.

This was a brutal primary in a lot of ways. As a Cruz supporter, I thought there were some unexpectedly snarky comments from some surprising sources but it would be really missing the point to take personal offense at them.

When the dust settled it was easy for me to support Trump.

[Miss Marple 2]

It's nice to know the annoying ones are apparently working as a team.

[narciso]

happy anniversary, hit and claire,

citing 1912, as something other than a warning seems daft, if not for tr's egotism, wilson would not have been elected, dc wouldn't have be segregated, the income tax might not have been imposed, breckenridge long and fdr wouldn't have started on their careers,

[JMHanes]

Captain Hate:

You might enjoy a series of podcasts called the Norman Centuries done by Lars Brownworth. Fascinating stuff, especially their ventures in Italy and the Levant.

[Miss Marple 2]

Beasts, Captain Hate,

There were several times I wished I had simply kept my mouth shut, let me tell you.

Very brutal, but then, I was trained in the fires of Free Republic!!! LOL!

I sincerely appreciate the people who are now supporting Trump. I would have done the same with Cruz.

Politics is a team sport. I think it is hard for some people to understand that.

[narciso]

tommy boy, might be seeing the writing on the wall,

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-concern-grows-over-possible-venezuela-meltdown-officials-022241019.html?nhp=1

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

Scooby dooby do I'm so righteous! How bout you?

Smug as a bug on a slug baby!

Biden my time til the relief corps marching band shows up! Flounce to the left, flounce to the right! Indignation, fight fight fight!

[cheerleader]

Miss Marple

Did you see this week where the owner of FR kicked out all the #nevertrump supporters and said they would not be allowed to post at FR any more?

He is a hundred per cent on the Trump Train.

[narciso]

I was noting last night bruhl's rather subtle performance in civil war, a contrast with some of the more flamboyant foes in the series,

[clarice]

Fr kicked me out years ago, when I asked that they stop posters from running my entire articles instead of links and excerpts. Owner is something of a jerk.

[maryrose]

Capt
Thank you
You know I admire you and value your opinion
Clarice
I appreciate your insight
I think in time both Romney and Sasse will come around.
Of course neither will be invited to any WH dinners.

[Captain Hate]

Thank you, JMH; I've already done some reading on them; my fave was when they prayed to Pope Leo IX in 1053 as they pounded the German army he sicced on them.

[Momto2]

This is so funny - they've never seen a candidate like him before. He plays the media like a fiddle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnMsUaT6e8k&feature=youtu.be

[Captain Hate]

Of course neither will be invited to any WH dinners.

Much stranger things have happened. For all of his bombast, Trump understands how to get things done other than imperious executive orders which are surely unconstitutional.

[narciso]

lol daddy, they ought to have a breathalizer test for the moose,

[anonamom]

A glorious day in NC to celebrate an anniversary hit!

Congratulations to you both. Many, many more...

[Miss Marple 2]

clarice,

I left during the 20o4 election, I think. I just couldn't take some of the people there anymore.

I am still registered, but never post there.

The owner's sole motivation is who is donating the most. Right now it's Trump supporters, hence the dumping of #NeverTrump.

cheerleader, Despite my cynicism concerning FR's owner, I consider his actions a sign that Trump is wildly popular, more than many people think.

[cheerleader]

I never posted at FR so I don't know much about the owner. GWP posted the story about his kicking out the #nevertrumps.

[maryrose]

I would ask that we don't mention comments of posters who are not here to defend themselves.
I may be called a Pollyanna ,one of my favorite movies by the way, but that seems fair to me.
Tiresome and annoying.
Well that is my cue...

[Captain Hate]

The most offensive thing I've seen today is anonamom listening to Prairie Gnome Sheer Boredom; opposition research, I'm sure.

[narciso]

yikes, the hypocratic oath doesn't seem to have made it there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589929/The-woman-killed-doctors-obsessed-cleaning-Horrifying-Yes-s-just-one-growing-numbers-Dutch-men-women-given-right-euthanasia-mental-not-terminal-illness.html

[Miss Marple 2]

Captain Hate,

I occasionally hear Keillor because he comes on after the classical music program I listen to.

No doubt he has a gift for parody. He is probably the ONLY lefty comedian I find remotely funny. A couple of weeks ago he had a dead-on impersonator doing "Willie Nelson sings Puccini" with a voice just like his singing the famous aria from Madame Butterfly.

That being said, I am with anonamom and not wanting Romney nor Ryan nor anyone else to give him easy fodder for his parodies. At least he should have to work for it.

And why isn't daddy writing parodies for our side?

[narciso]

the guy noir parody is somewhat amusing, I'll admit,

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

I would ask that we don't mention comments of posters who are not here to defend themselves.

All aboard the righteous train! Rules by Polly on the door to the left. Whoo Whoo...

Smug a chugga Smug a chugga Smug a chugga!

[Threadkiller]

I would ask that we don't mention comments of posters who are not here to defend themselves.

I agree. They are not worth it.

[Polly needs a clue a do a do a do]

Tiresome and annoying.
Well that is my cue...

Ah what spark of recognition in yonder window glows? Damn. False alarm.

[Threadkiller]

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/14/sheldon-adelson-poised-give-donald-trump-donation-boost/