The State Dept. Inspector General Email Report

The WaPo gets a leaked version of the upcoming IG report into Hillary's private email server:

State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices

By Rosalind S. Helderman and Tom Hamburger May 25 at 10:18 AM

The State Department’s independent watchdog has issued a highly critical analysis of Hillary Clinton’s email practices while running the department, concluding that she failed to seek legal approval for her use of a private email server and that department staff would not have given its blessing because of the “security risks in doing so.”

The inspector general, in a long awaited review obtained Wednesday by The Washington Post in advance of its publication, found that Clinton’s use of private email for public business was “not an appropriate method” of preserving documents and that her practices failed to comply with department policies meant to ensure federal record laws are followed.

The report says she should have printed and saved her emails during her four years in office or surrendered her work-related correspondence immediately upon stepping down in February 2013. Instead, Clinton provided those records in December 2014, nearly two years after leaving office.

The report found that a top Clinton aide was warned in 2010 that the system may not properly preserve records but dismissed those worries, indicating that the system had passed legal muster. But the inspector general said it could not show evidence of a review by legal counsel.

IANAL and someone can doublecheck but when I looked recently my conclusion was that these [the record-keeping stuff, not the handling classified info stuff] are administrative, not criminal violations. Utter disdain for the FOIA, for example, earns a dressing-down from one's supervisor or a federal judge, not fines or imprisonment. Back to the WaPo:

The new report focuses on record keeping and how Clinton and previous secretaries of state have maintained documents regarding public business. She has said she complied with laws requiring the preservation of documents, including emails, because she emailed other government officials at their official accounts, knowing their emails would be retained on public servers.

However, she has not explained how she intended emails sent to private citizens, who did not use government email, to be preserved. Some emails have emerged, particularly from Clinton’s first months in office in 2009 when her aides have said she was transitioning technology, that she did not provide to the State Department.

 ERRATA: This is from the FOIA, section 4:

(F) Whenever the court orders the production of any agency records improperly withheld from the complainant and assesses against the United States reasonable attorney fees and other litigation costs, and the court additionally issues a written finding that the circumstances surrounding the withholding raise questions whether agency personnel acted arbitrarily or capriciously with respect to the withholding, the Special Counsel shall promptly initiate a proceeding to determine whether disciplinary action is warranted against the officer or employee who was primarily responsible for the withholding. The Special Counsel, after investigation and consideration of the evidence submitted, shall submit his findings and recommendations to the administrative authority of the agency concerned and shall send copies of the findings and recommendations to the officer or employee or his representative. The administrative authority shall take the corrective action that the Special Counsel recommends.

(G) In the event of noncompliance with the order of the court, the district court may punish for contempt the responsible employee, and in the case of a uniformed service, the responsible member.

I guess a contempt of court finding could result in jail time but it is still not a felony, as best I know. Still, what a weird Hillary defense - she broke the law but the penalties are minor, so what's the big deal? Uhh, she broke the law? And now wants to be Chief Executive?

TO BE CLEAR: I am focusing on the record-keeping violations, not the potential mishandling of classified information.

Comments

[sbw]

How am I supposed to get work done if I have to constantly check for new threads?

[henry]

Yup, spin. "everyone did it." spin again "just administrative policies." don't look at those classified materials laws -- look st the spinning squirrel!!!!!

[Theo]

Sure, there will be spin. The IG once dated someone whose sister is a Republican or something. But while not the big KABOOM I think that this report just adds to the steady drip drip drip that reinforces the notion that Rodham is not honest or trustworthy and does not play by the rules.

[buccaneer morgan]

No Theo the of was a red queen contributor, they only go after of when they are effective.

[buccaneer morgan]

The ig, we went over this, McCullough the intelligence one will be savaged.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Further proof of the great Paul Johnson's thesis that intellectuals can quite often be profoundly foolish, as Charles Murray tells us he and his ilk are "a tiny fraction of the population" ever so much more special than mere voters and concludes Why ‘Hillary Is Even Worse’ Doesn’t Cut It
My comment;

"We require explanation beyond “Hillary is even worse.”

Two guys get stuck at a railroad crossing with a freight train bearing down on them.
First guy, who got the car stuck, considers himself more than just some lowly passenger in a stuck car and requires explanation beyond "jump you effing idiot, a train is about to hit us!"
Second guy jumps because a train is about to hit them.
Coroner notes first guy is one of that "tiny fraction of the population" that needs to have it explained to them why being hit by a train is worse than the alternative.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

An IG would be unlikely to even address any criminal possibilities or anything besides State Dept regs while an official FBI criminal investigation is underway, I would think.

[maryrose]

Another nail in the coffin.
5 bucks says she doesn't make it to the convention and gets beat in California.
They also want to dumpDSW.
Dems will rue the day they picked her

[Bill Peschel]

While Hillary may escape sanctions for evading FOIA and State Department rules, there is that little matter of instructing an underling to strip the intelligence headers and send the info over unsecured channels. That's exposing secrets to the enemy and should result in her losing whatever classification she should have.

This is also a woman who a) needs help using a classified phone, b) orders aides to find out what's on televisions, and c) deliberately acts outside rules and regulations, and has consistently done so throughout her career. That alone should make anyone who is not already in the barrel with her wary of entrusting her with the presidency.

[cheerleader]

Ignatz the two people in the car are #nevertrumpers and the train is the Trump Train.

[centralcal]

Well, it has been confirmed that Trump will be in my city on Friday morning, before going on to Anaheim and San Diego.

Sure hope we don't have anything like the riots at his last event. We don't have violent riots here, so sure hope law enforcement is ready!!!

[clarice]

It's about time that police depts and municipalities sue Soros for funding these riots. (See Conservative Treehouse on the N Mex riots--again sponsored by Soros). He's the principal--the rioters are his agents. Poor citizens pay for defending against this mayhem.

[buccaneer morgan]

Well how long did it take albuquerque pd to be on to walter white?

[dc]

Of even more concern, at the very end of the WP article: "She said that she also exchanged about 31,000 personal emails during her time as secretary and that those messages have been deleted." That's a lot of emails that have been declared "personal." What are the odds some US govt "sensitive" info was in there and she deleted it (and then destroyed the server, btw)?

[Beasts of England]

Very good, Ig. Another aspect of the 'even worse' argument is that their assessment of Trump is purely speculative, and never considers, argumentum gratis, that he could actually be a good, very good, or excellent president. It's embarrassing.

[buccaneer morgan]

Disappointing on Murray's side, I swear there must be a full moon, well he'll be the 10 % that votes for Johnson.

[Jeff Dobbs]

TM:
The State Dept. Inspector General Email Report

Someone bring me a shovel, there is a horse I must exhume for the purposes of applying blunt force to its corpse.

This IG was nominated and confirmed AFTER Hillary had left the State Department. While she was there........

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2015/04/reminder-obama-aided-and-abetted-hillary.html

Hillary served as Secretary of State at a time when there was no permanent, Senate-confirmed Inspector General, and in which the acting Inspector General served in a weakened position. If Hillary wanted to operate using questionable practices - scratch the if, because we know she did operate thusly - she was allowed to operate in an environment that made doing so more likely to go undetected.

The State Department went over 2,000 days without an actual Inspector General. The wheels of government grind slowly, right? However, Hillary Clinton stepped down as Secretary of State on February 1, 2013, and Obama nominated Steve Linick as State Inspector General on June 27, 2013. It's amazing how quickly the wheels of government can sometime spin!

The Senate then confirmed Linick as State IG on September 30, 2013.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2015/06/back-to-the-state-department.html

Hillary got away with ethically troubling - and most likely outright illegal - behavior while Secretary of State when Obama was her boss (thanks, Obama).

Now just imagine what Hillary could get away with if she were elected President and effectively had no boss.

Well. You can rest assured that Hillary has spent her entire adult lifetime imagining that very thing.

[buccaneer morgan]

More like 5%

[buccaneer morgan]

Hey Jeff how's the pool?

[buccaneer morgan]

Carlos slim's chimps are puzzled by baltimore, flathead is being himself, bruni only more so.

[Eric in Boise]

intellectuals can quite often be profoundly foolish

Agree 100%, but I'd even go so far as to change "quite often" to "usually".

It continues to amaze me how [redacted] stupid the smartest people in the room can be.

[Old Lurker]

Hi Jeff!

[Beasts of England]

Jeff!!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Eric,
I tempered it a bit because in the case of Murray he usually isn't a fool.
Originally it was "are" not "can be".

[Miss Marple 2]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-thinks-she-knows-how-to-take-on-trump-will-it-work/2016/05/25/ff521a96-2225-11e6-aa84-42391ba52c91_story.html?postshare=4841464190196957&tid=ss_tw

Trump readily agreed to an interview. Hillary declined, and has not given an interview to the WaPo in 13 months.

This article shows how out of touch the Clinton people are. They keep mouthing the same platitudes, and it isn't working.

Trump is quick, nimble, and operating a lot on instincts. She cannot react quickly enough to counter him.

[Miss Marple 2]

Hi, Jeff!

[Captain Hate]

The Mailman's Son has a hard decision to make as both state houses have sent him a bill lifting the 12% alc limit on beer sold in Ahia. No telling if he'll be more swayed by "at the Pearly Gates they won't be happy if the poor had to spend extra to get a serious buzz on" or the Carrie Nation bluenoses, but it should be unintentionally funny whatever that goof says.

[Miss Marple 2]

Twitchy has aggregated some interesting emails including what is possibly a smoking gun about her knowledge of the email situation:

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/05/25/new-hillary-huma-email-in-state-dept-oig-report-could-be-the-proverbial-smoking-gun/

[Threadkiller]

Martinez must not be on the short list:

https://youtu.be/3L5qtzJs-80

[maryrose]

Testing

[Captain Hate]

Surely Sully would disagree:

http://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2016/05/25/gov-mcauliffe-attempts-the-all-wangs-look-alike-excuse-as-he-admits-to-meeting-chinese-donor/

[Miss Marple 2]

Captain Hate,

Why does this remind me of the "two John Huang's" excuse Al Gore used for irregular donations and a guy meeting him at the White House?

[Theo]

Jeff --

Please stick around. We need more thoughtful people willing to have reasoned discussions.

[Miss Marple 2]

Background on the Chinese involvment in the dem donation scandal in 1996:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_United_States_campaign_finance_controversy

[Captain Hate]

Miss Marple, there's a decided sleaze factor that adheres to anybody around the Clintoons, which obviously includes Weird Al and McAwful.j

[buccaneer morgan]

This is also right out of season 2 in hoc, how Underwood becomes too dog.

[Theo]

CNN is of course soft pedaling the IG Report. It says that the report "faults" Clinton (as opposed to the WaPo's "sharply criticizes"). It also mentions that Rodham and her top aides "declined" to be interviewed by the IG; I think Politico had it "refused to answer questions."

I still think that this hurts her, but we can see the media going into "some minor paperwork issues, just like the time you didn't get your expense report into accounting by the end of the month, nothing to see her and move along" mode.

[buccaneer morgan]

Revealing the princeling who is funding the democrats.

[Asst Mgr]

"By Rosalind S. Helderman and Tom Hamburger"

Tom H should have been assigned to the McDonald's robot story instead.

[clarice]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-cosby-and-the-clintons-1464193234

[Threadkiller]

Less thoughtful people aren't willing to have reasoned discussions.

[Jeff Dobbs]

narc:
how's the pool?

Only since you asked...hanging around top 50 in the nation.

I'd be pushing top 25 if I could just get my break going.

Hi all.

[buccaneer morgan]

Its rare that the night manager came up with a satisfying ending, not the one they showed in the uk

[lyle]

What's this? Jeff Dobbs, pool shark, has resurfaced on JOM? Excellent. Plus Eric? Will wonders never cease.

[buccaneer morgan]

So without her imput, it's a whitewash like the arb.

[lyle]

http://www.newgeography.com/content/005264-suburbs-continue-dominate-jobs-and-job-growth

So, of course Precious and his criminal admin will bring this to a screeching halt with AFFH. Because diversity. Or as Insty with his ever-quote of Heinlein would describe it: more bad luck.

[Janet S.]

She has said she complied with laws requiring the preservation of documents, including emails, because she emailed other government officials at their official accounts, knowing their emails would be retained on public servers.

But Hillary & her chosen grifter crew were all using the private system.

[Jack is Back!]

Trump's 5 Mental Tricks that Make him a Master Persuader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo

From the debates but still topical.

[Eric in Boise]

You have to take the bitter with the sweet, Lyle ;)

[henry]

But Hillary & her chosen grifter crew were all using the private system.

Plus her tech guy's email seemed to be on an IRS type system & backup schedule.

[lyle]

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/24/katie-couric-accused-doctoring-interviews-anti-gun-film/

I know this link will surprise precisely no one. That's not why I posted it. I posted it so you would click and scroll down to the South Park reference. (And of course it's poor taste. It's South Park.)

[lyle]

This is too good! From an Insty link again:

THINGS THE WORLD’S MOST AND LEAST PRIVILEGED PEOPLE SAY.

BY JOHN-CLARK LEVIN

- - - -
“I don’t have a TV!”

“I never eat meat!”

“I walk ten miles a day!”

“My diet is making me lose a lot of weight!”

“I use my own waste to grow food!”

“My children aren’t vaccinated!”

“I have a very small carbon footprint!”

“I don’t vote — the system is too corrupt!”

Virtue signalling versus real life!

[Janet S.]

Hillary declined, and has not given an interview to the WaPo in 13 months.

That is the Dem. tactic when their candidate is lousy or controversial. She will stay behind the scenes while advocacy organizations & the MFM do the fighting for her.
She'll come out for very planned & managed "shows".
The MFM will tell us how great she is while the advocacy organizations & the MFM rip Trump apart.

That's how McAuliffe won Virginia. We hardly ever saw him.

[maryrose]

The lies keep piling up
My guess as to who caves first to get a good deal- Cheryl Mills

[buccaneer morgan]

Yes but cucconelli didn't see the long game.

[Buckeye]

Hey Jeff.

Some of us have missed your voice of reason. Hope you stick around.

[maryrose]

Or Kendall if he beats her to it
Janet
McAwf was getting Chinese money that is why he was laying low.
It will all come out I the Chinese wash.

[Theo]

At some point -- and if you blink you will miss it -- she will say something totally bland and anodyne vaguely related to the subject and from them on her and her enablers and the mainstream media (but I repeat myself) will declare it "old news." Anyone who addresses it will be accused of "dredging up" old controversies for political purposes.

[maryrose]

Janet
Who is the AG to take over if Terry crumbles?

[Thomas Collins]

My theory is that people such as Murray are going to vote for The Hill but don't want to admit it. At the very least, even if they are going to keep clean togas by not voting, they want The Hill to win. And my theory on their preference is that it has nothing to do with anything approaching reasoned analysis, and everything to do with culture. Even many conservative intellects don't want an individual with a Rat Pack mentality becoming POTUS. The Hill may be from the crony rentier Alynskyite mindset, but her upper middle class, Wellesley and Yale breeding make her more acceptable.

But lest my friends here think I've gone soft on Trumpster, I reaffirm that my views on him haven't changed. Unlike Murray, however, thinking The Hill would be worse, in my opinion, is a compelling reason to vote for The Donald.

[maryrose]

Them
I believe Repubs are biding their time.
sometime in July it all hits the fan.

[maryrose]

TC
Trump went to Penn so technically he is one of their kind.

[lyle]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/feds-paid-politico-710k-in-2015/article/2002529

Something to bear in mind.

[Thomas Collins]

Yes, maryrose, Trump certainly doesn't come from The Hood in terms of upbringing and education. But the snobby attitude of the credentialed aspiring gentry class didn't seep into Trumpster's psyche.

[GUS]

Henry, I must got home. I picked up Junior from school and we stopped at McDonalds, the bathroom has a TV in the mirror, CNN (Clinton News Network) was on.

the EVERYONE WAS DOING SPIN, was in full force.
Nonsense.

McDonalds is fantastic if all you want is a dollar Coke.

Thanks to everyone for advice on the kids upcoming computer project.

[Thomas Collins]

McD's has decent coffee, GUS. But for a quick burger, I prefer Burger King's Whopper.

[lyle]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clinton-and-allies-open-new-front-against-trump-his-profits-from-the-housing-crash/2016/05/24/16399474-21f3-11e6-8690-f14ca9de2972_story.html

Guess who the new secret weapon is. No peeking!

[Janet S.]

Our AG is Mark Herring. He redefined marriage for us - refusing to represent the people of Virginia. He gave the green light to the transgender mayhem in Fairfax Co..

...& he is one of the AG's that stood with Al Gore about silencing the opposition to the AGW scam.

[GUS]

Hey Jeff, I don't understand why no I.G. was working at State for 5-6 years.

Oh now I get it...Wee Timmy Geithner and Colby-Jack Sandwich Lew had other jobs at the time.
I mean those 2 are SOOOOPER HUMAN gubmint servants and the only ones who can SAVE US!!!

[Appalled]

TC:

I will upset Threadkiller's analogy with my eating habits. I am confirmed Chick-fil-A guy for fast food, and on Sundays I just go hungry.

[GUS]

I agree Thomas. I was in Piggly Wiggly this morning and overheard the cashier next to me ask an older gent, "would you like YOUR MEAT wrapped in plastic?" He declined. Reminded me of the old joke.

Ma'am, I was just in the Mens room here at your store. I bought a pack of gum and it tastes like rubber.

[Thomas Collins]

My son says Chick-fil-A has great chicken sandwiches, Appalled. I've never been to a Chick-fil-A. I prefer hamburgers. But so many people have said such good things about it, I may try it out.

[GUS]

Chik fil a is righteous. I was in St Pete and I was up really early to go deep sea fishing. Me and THE BOY, stopped a Chik Fil A for a chicken biscuit and sweet tea. HEAVEN.

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Biding their time - perpetual setting for the do nothing GOP

[lyle]

http://www.americanexperiment.org/2016/05/clear-cut-trees-reveal-solar-powers-environmental-downside/

A prime example of such environmental degradation has come to light at the Lake Pulaski solar project in Buffalo Township 35 miles west of the Twin Cities. Chipping Guy

The project’s owner, multinational conglomerate Enel Green Power, recently clear cut hundreds of mature hardwood trees to make way for tens of thousands of solar panels later this summer. Angry residents posted dozens of photos of the carnage on the township’s Facebook page, too late to save 11 acres of maple, ash and oak from the chainsaw.

“Since I was a little boy, I was taught that trees give the oxygen back, they hold the soil, they help filtrate the water, they provide homes for wildlife, they slow down the wind and snow,” Buffalo Township Supervisor Don Schmidt said. “Yet they cut them all down to put up solar panels. I haven’t had anybody be able to explain that to me yet how that works.”

Anyone care to explain it all to Mr. Schmidt?

[Thomas Collins]

OK, Chick-fil-A has GUS's and Appalled's approval. I'm going to find one and check it out.

[maryrose]

TC
I had McD's coffee this morning - senior small 85 cents.
I can't eat any of their other food.

[Jack is Back!]

I can top your 1:10, Lyle:

[Buckeye]

But the snobby attitude of the credentialed aspiring gentry class didn't seep into Trumpster's psyche.

Teh Donald is pretty much stuck in Queens as a smart-ass 14 year old.

But that is part of his "charm".

[GUS]

Lyle, the Maples should have formed a Union, and demanded equal rights!!!

[Buckeye]

We have to drive 5 miles to get Chick-fil-A, but do every once in a while.

Actually quite good.

If you want really good old-school fried chicken in Ahia you go to Bob Evans (they call it "broasted")or a joint in the 'hood.

[Thomas Collins]

I once liked McD's fries, maryrose, but McD's seems to be frying them in politically correct oil now. Not as much taste as they once had.

[Buckeye]

JiB

That's cold!!

I'm stealing it.

[Beasts of England]

Chick-fil-A is a huge favorite here and excellent in every way. They do a promo each year giving away a free sandwich if you dress like one of their ubiquitous spotted cows. Both daughters do it annually. Not joking.

[jimmyk]

One of Althouse's commenters reminds us of this:

While saying the use of a private server "wasn't the best choice," Clinton replied that she didn't need permission. Her predecessors had done the same thing, she said.

What utter BS. Any journalist letting her get away with that one (all of them) ought to be drummed out of the profession. "If I may follow up, Madame Secretary, which of your predecessors exclusively used a private unsecured server instead of the government secure e-mail?" She's relying on the fact that Colin Powell might have used his personal e-mail once or twice to say "On my way" or "Running late," or something along those lines.

[GUS]

Buckeye, there is 1 Chik Fil a in S.E.Wisconsin to my knowledge. It isn't far from where I grew up, but it's probably 25 miles from me. Every time I go past, it has a long line at the double drive thru. Both Henry and I live in the sticks, I'm 17 miles from work, Henry has to be more 25 or so. We work quite near each other.

[Buckeye]

Beasts

Sounds like you and the ex did an excellent job of raising those gals.

They clearly have a good outlook on life.

[GUS]

Broasted chicken is "fried" in a pressure cooker.

[jimmyk]

A prime example of such environmental degradation has come to light at the Lake Pulaski solar project

As another example, Mayor Bane is adding bike lanes to major avenues. The one near me, Amsterdam Ave, just went from 4 car lanes to 3 to make room for a ginormous bike lane. So now traffic, which generally moved pretty well, is bumper-to-bumper 5 MPH for 12 hours/day. Any guesses as to what that does to air pollution?

[GUS]

Can you imagine Her Trajesty Corona Rodham becoming President and having an affair with Huma!!!

She'd say: What's the big deal, other Presidents' had sex with other women too.

[Buckeye]

GUS

Sorry about your chick-fil-a challenge.

But I am sure your bratwurst puts ours to shame;)

[Jack is Back!]

Happy Birthday, John Wayne:

HOW JOHN WAYNE SAVED THE MARINES

John Wayne was born on May 26, 1907, in Winterset, Iowa, as Marion Morrison, weighing 13 pounds. His birthplace is a museum. There is a guest book, opened to a page with the entry, in the entrant’s handwriting, Name: Ronald Reagan, Address: 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Washington DC.

To celebrate the birthday of a truly great American, let me tell you how John Wayne saved the Marine Corps. In the aftermath of World War II, the psychological letdown after years of war and bloodshed, the huge demobilization of servicemen, the desire to slash military spending, and the antipathy towards the military by the leftist liberals in the Democrat Party.... all combined in a call by a number of Senators and Congressmen to abolish the Marine Corps.

In this, they were supported by the Doolittle Board, created by Harry Truman, which called for the Marine Corps to be “disbanded” as a separate military force, and “unified” with the Army [yes, the board was headed by Air Force General Jimmy Doolittle].

A group of enterprising Marines – you can always depend on Marines to be enterprising – with Hollywood connections, thought a movie made around the most famous photograph of World War II, Joe Rosenthal’s photo of the Marines raising the flag on Mount Suribachi on Iwo Jima, could help sway public opinion against their disbandment.

They approached Hollywood director Allan Dwan, who agreed to commission a script. The movie was to be called “The Sands of Iwo Jima,” and everybody agreed there was only one man who could play the lead role of Sergeant Stryker: John Wayne.

To their great surprise, Wayne turned it down. He didn’t like the script, and he wasn’t enamored of the character of Stryker. The Marines came to the rescue again. The Marine Corps Commandant, General Clifton B. Cates, got on an airplane and flew from Washington to California to personally request Wayne make the picture. When General Cates explained the stakes involved – the very existence of the Marine Corps – Wayne immediately changed his mind, promising the general he would do everything in his power to have the movie be a success.

The Sands of Iwo Jima was released in 1949 and quickly became a runaway blockbuster, with millions of moviegoers packing every theatre showing it. Wayne was nominated for a Best Actor Oscar, establishing him as Hollywood’s Number One box-office star. The Doolittle Board folded its tent, and no politician on Capitol Hill ever again said a word about disbanding the Marines.
So let’s all say “Semper Fi” to the memory of John Wayne.

To further celebrate his birthday, here’s a treat and some advice. The treat is this link: A biography of John Wayne written by Ronald Reagan, in the October 1979 Reader’s Digest.

The advice is this: Don’t ever trust a man who doesn’t like John Wayne. A man’s opinion of John Wayne is a good rule-of-thumb test of his character and moral values. To admire John Wayne is to admire the heroic and the morally noble. To sneer at John Wayne is to admire the opposite. It’s revealing that you find very few liberals among his admirers, and very few conservatives among his detractors.

And John Wayne’s famous quote? “Sgt Stryker: Life is tough, but it's tougher if you're stupid.”

[Beasts of England]

That's very kind, Buckeye - thank you. My ex gets at least 70% of the credit.

[Miss Marple]

I see Obama got a public scolding by Abe. Another humiliation for our country.

[GUS]

Buckeye, I'm originally from Maryland, but I LOVE Wisconsin. And YES, the brats are excellent. I actually have Brats rated.
1)USINGERS. Legendary sausage company in Milwaukee
2)Johnsonville. Sheboygan WI
3)FOX BROS PIGGLY WIGGLY. Many varieties including Phillie cheese steak brats. The best is their beer brat
4)Klements another Milwaukee legend.

[Threadkiller]

I will upset Threadkiller's analogy with my eating habits.

This sounds thoughtful. Maybe worthy of a reasoned discussion.

[GUS]

Jack, if John Wayne had "become" transgendered LIBTARDS would have approved of him. I've heard libs sneer at John Wayne's given name of Marion Morrison.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

"In the last hour Sen. Tom Cotton took to the Senate floor to denounce the “bitter, vulgar, incoherent ramblings of the minority leader,” the “cancerous” Harry Reid. And it gets better from there. Take it in—just two minutes long:"
Tom Cotton Tells the Truth About Harry Reid

[James D.]

her upper middle class, Wellesley and Yale breeding make her more acceptable.

So I guess they just ignore the way she dealt with "bimbo eruptions" by hiring her lowlife taxpayer-funded goon squad to trash the reputations of the women her husband sexually harassed and/or assaulted?

Or is that OK to them because she hired someone else to do it rather than do it herself, since of course people of good breeding always bring in hired help to do the messy household tasks?

[GUS]

JamesD, give Corona Rodham credit. She NEVER DRIVES drunk......anymore. She has one of her lackeys pick up "The drink" and "GUM!!" for her.

Ig, I just called Tom Cotton's office and thanked him.