The State Dept. Inspector General Email Report

The WaPo gets a leaked version of the upcoming IG report into Hillary's private email server:

State Dept. inspector general report sharply criticizes Clinton’s email practices

By Rosalind S. Helderman and Tom Hamburger May 25 at 10:18 AM

The State Department’s independent watchdog has issued a highly critical analysis of Hillary Clinton’s email practices while running the department, concluding that she failed to seek legal approval for her use of a private email server and that department staff would not have given its blessing because of the “security risks in doing so.”

The inspector general, in a long awaited review obtained Wednesday by The Washington Post in advance of its publication, found that Clinton’s use of private email for public business was “not an appropriate method” of preserving documents and that her practices failed to comply with department policies meant to ensure federal record laws are followed.

The report says she should have printed and saved her emails during her four years in office or surrendered her work-related correspondence immediately upon stepping down in February 2013. Instead, Clinton provided those records in December 2014, nearly two years after leaving office.

The report found that a top Clinton aide was warned in 2010 that the system may not properly preserve records but dismissed those worries, indicating that the system had passed legal muster. But the inspector general said it could not show evidence of a review by legal counsel.

IANAL and someone can doublecheck but when I looked recently my conclusion was that these [the record-keeping stuff, not the handling classified info stuff] are administrative, not criminal violations. Utter disdain for the FOIA, for example, earns a dressing-down from one's supervisor or a federal judge, not fines or imprisonment. Back to the WaPo:

The new report focuses on record keeping and how Clinton and previous secretaries of state have maintained documents regarding public business. She has said she complied with laws requiring the preservation of documents, including emails, because she emailed other government officials at their official accounts, knowing their emails would be retained on public servers.

However, she has not explained how she intended emails sent to private citizens, who did not use government email, to be preserved. Some emails have emerged, particularly from Clinton’s first months in office in 2009 when her aides have said she was transitioning technology, that she did not provide to the State Department.

 ERRATA: This is from the FOIA, section 4:

(F) Whenever the court orders the production of any agency records improperly withheld from the complainant and assesses against the United States reasonable attorney fees and other litigation costs, and the court additionally issues a written finding that the circumstances surrounding the withholding raise questions whether agency personnel acted arbitrarily or capriciously with respect to the withholding, the Special Counsel shall promptly initiate a proceeding to determine whether disciplinary action is warranted against the officer or employee who was primarily responsible for the withholding. The Special Counsel, after investigation and consideration of the evidence submitted, shall submit his findings and recommendations to the administrative authority of the agency concerned and shall send copies of the findings and recommendations to the officer or employee or his representative. The administrative authority shall take the corrective action that the Special Counsel recommends.

(G) In the event of noncompliance with the order of the court, the district court may punish for contempt the responsible employee, and in the case of a uniformed service, the responsible member.

I guess a contempt of court finding could result in jail time but it is still not a felony, as best I know. Still, what a weird Hillary defense - she broke the law but the penalties are minor, so what's the big deal? Uhh, she broke the law? And now wants to be Chief Executive?

TO BE CLEAR: I am focusing on the record-keeping violations, not the potential mishandling of classified information.

Comments

[narciso]

re janet's earlier post,

http://therightscoop.com/planned-parenthood-lawyer-admits-illegally-receiving-evidence-from-da-in-daleiden-case/

[narciso]

it's just a fleshwound,

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/matthew-balan/2016/05/25/gregory-minimizes-dem-infighting-overblown-not-big-gop

[les nessman]

"KIDS or GOATS."

Both, of course. And polygamy.
I've heard recent rumblings again about "de-stigmatizing" underage relations. Very disturbing.

And getting back to my original comment, I think we may be in for some shocking news about some in the GOPe. Even some of those who we wouldn't think would be corrupt or even those who are the "leaders" of GOP philosophy. (I don't mean to suggest pedophilia specifically, just corruption of all kinds - so who knows, it could be anything.)

I've always figured most of the corrupt are Dems. I still do. It just may be the case that there are more corrupt Repubs than I was willing to admit.

[Threadkiller]

Cashill:

http://www.wnd.com/2016/05/new-roots-old-lies/

[narciso]

one can't rule much things out, hastert was a big surprise, and he made it to the top, ensign in a different way, was negligent, and probably a host of others.

[les nessman]

"hastert was a big surprise"

Heh. Yep. Once again, that was one of the things I was specifically thinking about while I made my comments. Get out of my head, JOMers! :)

We've let the Sauron Gov't get too much power over our lives and He's been busy handing out rings of Power to the Authorities. They've been wielding those rings and are, of course, falling into darkness.
Corny, I know, but I think it's pretty apt.

[narciso]

you see why I took brady's side, almost from the getgo,

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3433976/posts

[jorod]

If indicted she ill be pardoned, if convicted she will be pardoned, if elected she will be self-pardoned.

[narciso]

so much for that hostage video,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3609754/Battle-begins-Johnny-Depp-s-400M-fortune-Pirates-Caribbean-star-asks-judge-reject-Amber-Heard-s-request-spousal-support-NO-pre-nup.html

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Anyone going to post their Depp-Heard shocked face?

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Oh great. New self identifying gender alert;
The [mostly gay] men who live as dogs: 'We're just the same as any person on the high street.'
Now we're going to need bathrooms with fire hydrants.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

just in case you thought it was a joke;

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--It's too bad about Charles Murray, of whom I am a great admirer.--

He has always been fairly iconoclastic and difficult to pigeonhole ideologically. He's mostly libertarian but many of them [us] seem not very stable in who they will cozy up to or away from.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

The jokes about the doggy door blokes write themselves so I'll refrain.

[buccaneer morgan]

Of course there was the whole python sketch about mice, which was really about that, forty some years ago it was parody

[buccaneer morgan]

It seemed to have been her decision, maybe the whole prospect of imprisonment soured her view, then again...

[glasater]

At the moment I'm inclined to hope Hillary isn't indicted; that she gets the nomination; and then all hell can break loose :-)

[anonamom]

Reposting for anyone who may have missed it. Thank you , Jane:

---------

Another Bob,

I'm in contact with Dot pretty regularly. Got an email from him about an hour ago. MarkO and Clarice are also in touch.

Posted by: Jane | May 25, 2016 at 08:20 PM

[Miss Marple 2]

https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/05/gop-house-codifies-obamas-transgenderism-into-spending-bill

I am unwilling to cut Ryan any slack on this at all.

[Jack is Back!]

DoT and I correspond at times. Good spirit.

[Buckeye]

Porchlight ask last night:

If so, what happens to the Dems when big Hill donors learn that the lousy shill to whom they paid so much filthy lucre is not going to be in office to come through on those polite requests for favors?

Real questions is what happens to Shrillary?

If somebody buys her Secret Service detail some hookers to party with......she might want to start looking over her shoulder.

[Marlene]

Jack,how was Frederick's concert?

[anonamom]

Oh, and for those who asked yesterday--update on my momma.

BLF--please keep those prayers a comin.'

Discharged Tuesday afternoon in sinus rhythm after cardioversion Monday; got some real food--my sister had grilled a feast of seafood and brought her a plate and some sleep in her won bed.

Til 2, when she awoke short of breath--again. So back in the ER by 9:30 to be sent home around one , but my brother texted me that she was not in any shape to do that--her breathing was still labored. A few phone calls later, she gets admitted--(Medicare will NOT pay for these hospital readmissions, stupidly thinking it's the hospitals' or physicians' neglect that got these "bounce backs" back) (Not saying that had a thing to do with the doctor's decision making process here...but I did mention I was aware of that to the ER doc).

I didn't necessarily mean for her to get readmitted either; just back to a respiratory rate under 20 before they sent her home. Hers was 40.

ANYWAY--at 10 pm, she was transferred to ICU from her room as she was back in a fib at 140-170. They got her slowed down with an infusion. She slept.

So, they'll try a new drug, I am thinking...

[Buckeye]

I am unwilling to cut Ryan any slack on this at all.

And some are still in shock Trump is likely winning the nomination and possibly the Presidency.

Many are hoping for someone to go to DC with a Thompson machine gun and line the Uniparty up against a brick wall.

Figuratively speaking of course.

[Buckeye]

anonamom

Is a pacemaker useful in this situation?

[Porchlight]

Sorry to hear that, anonamom. I hope new medication will help.

Iggy, I wish Murray would watch the Garbutt, NY video. Trump is the candidate who gives the most hope to the Americans most affected by the phenomena Murray described so well in Losing Ground and Coming Apart. I guess that's what makes it extra sad that he can't see it.

[Jack is Back!]

Marlene,

Go to my FB page for videos. He was great. Played two songs with ensemble then sang a duet of American Pie with his guitar teacher while the ensemble accompanied. Fine form from all the kids.

Prayers for your Mom, anonamom. It must be hard as a physician to see others tend to her. Are you ever involved or is that not SOP?

[Miss Marple 2]

Oh, anonamom, I am so sorry. I hope they can get her back to normal quickly.

I will continue prayers.

[Porchlight]

Trump and Sanders to debate for charity?

http://sli.mg/kVCK50

Another PR masterstroke from the Don. Hillary is so screwed.

[Miss Marple 2]

Porchlight,

Very interesting!

[anonamom]

Buckeye, she may get a pacer in the end, if she can't tolerate the drug effects, or find one that helps her out.
They can ablate (zap) the conduction spot between the upper and lower chambers of the heart (AV node) to keep the ultra fast stuff from above (atrial rate--a fib) coming through to the bottom (ventricle).

Almost always, the ventricular rate on it's own though is too slow, so a pacemaker is needed to get that nice 70-80 rate that works so well for most people.

[Jack is Back!]

anonamom,

My FIL got a pacemaker at 85. He is now 90 and rides his bike everyday. A very good friend is 90 and got his pacemaker 2 years ago. He goes to work everyday and continues to run his business in New York City.

90 is the new 70.

[Buckeye]

anonamom

Mrs. Buckeye had the RF ablation done shortly after we were married because of afib problem.

Worked like a charm.

[James D]

I've heard recent rumblings again about "de-stigmatizing" underage relations. Very disturbing.

It's coming. Probably polygamy first, though, as that's an easier argument for the progs to make now that the idea of marriage being defined as between one man and one woman is out the window.

If one man and one man is now a marriage, or one woman and one woman, then logically why shouldn't one man and two women, or two women and three men, be a legal marriage, too? That's where they'll be going next.

[henry]

Or the 10 men 1 goat arrangement popular in some locales to be imported here.

[Captain Hate]

Hillary is so screwed.

Has there ever been a more pathetic candidate? The enthusiasm for this unlikeable crone is nonexistent. If The Omen wasn't such a dullard product of horrible genetics she'd try to talk some sense to the Olympic lamp thrower out of basic human compassion.

[James D]

Apparently #Nevertrump has moved on to its next stage: discussing the actual murder of Trump...

(via Insty)

Appearing on Beck’s radio program this morning, (Author Brad) Thor said:

I am about to suggest something very bad. It is a hypothetical I am going to ask as a thriller writer.

With the feckless, spineless Congress we have, who will stand in the way of Donald Trump overstepping his constitutional authority as President? If Congress won’t remove him from office, what patriot will step up and do that if, if, he oversteps his mandate as president, his constitution-mandated authority as president, I should say.

If he oversteps that, how do we get him out of office? And I don’t think there is a legal means available. I think it will be a terrible, terrible position the American people will be in to get Trump out of office, because you won’t be able to do it through Congress.

Beck responded, “I would agree with you on that.”

[Threadkiller]

Praying for your mom and your family, anonamom.

My wife just recently brought home a sample of the latest miniature, wireless pacemaker. I think she said they are now an approved device. I will ask her.

[henry]

James D, they were fine with Obama.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-reince-priebus/

Interview with Priebus and also with Trump.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/27/us/politics/clinton-sanders-california-poll.html

[Threadkiller]

Cruz should have put some real distance between himself and Beck.

Now he needs to Akin the guy.

[Old Lurker]

Funny to read from Henry's 8:19 to the first line of Capn's 8:21.

:-)

[Miss Marple 2]

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/05/26/speak-for-yourself-president-fail--im-not-sorry-about-hiroshima-n2168799

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3610407/Scars-Somme-Time-healed-landscape-100-years-Flanders-fields-signs-battle-claimed-300-000-lives.html

[James D]

Great link, MM!

Here's another reason Trump is resonating with a lot of people:

Yeah, you read it right. American lives are more important than those of our enemies. Infinitely more important. One dead GI or a hundred dead Japanese in 1945? Easy. Save the U.S. soldier. I wouldn’t even break a sweat making that call.

It's true in peacetime, too. One American worker is more important than a hundred Chinese (or Mexican, or whoever) peasants looking to raise themselves out of poverty.

All men are not brothers, and we elect a government to protect our interests, not anyone else's. If others can benefit, too, that's great, but I want Americans to come first for our President and our Congress.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/281330-trump-aide-this-is-not-a-hard-race

[Miss Marple 2]

JamesD,

If government bureaucrats and lawyers were getting outsourced to India, you can bet there would be howling and outrage.

This is one of the things about this whole manufacturing, trade, and immigration thing: the people who are least affected are the ones who are setting the policies.

[Porchlight]

From MM's 8:55:

"You don’t change Donald Trump,” Manafort said.

“You don’t ‘manage’ him.”

Manafort noted Trump's proposal to ban Muslims from coming into the U.S., noting the businessman has "already started moderating on that."

“He operates by starting the conversation at the outer edges and then brings it back towards the middle. Within his comfort zone, he’ll soften it some more,” Manafort said.

“He’ll still end up outside of the norm, but in line with what the American people are thinking.”

Just what JOMers have been observing. All limned out in The Art of the Deal.

[Janet S.]

Amen, James D.

[Gentlejim]

From MM's 8:44, "Remember Pearl Harbor"

I love it.

[Gentlejim]

JamesD,
Are you positive you can't be persuaded to go to DC and be someone's chief of staff or something? Once again you hit the nail on the head.

[Janet S.]

This floated by on FB from 2009 - http://www.nationalreview.com/article/227836/i-still-hate-you-sarah-palin-david-kahane

It is really good.

"If you don’t understand that that’s the way we see you — as the enemy — then you’re too dumb to survive. Remember that for us politics is not just an avocation, or even just a job, but our life. We literally stay awake nights thinking up ways to screw you. And one of the ways we do that is by religiously observing Alinsky’s Rule No. 4."

[Porchlight]

That was an awesome article, Gentlejim. Thanks for the link, MM.

[Old Lurker]

Can anyone name anyone currently in office who would have James as their CoS?

OK, perhaps one or two out of 535. Not many more.

[Jack is Back!]

Going to the cemetary today with flags and poppies for my dad and uncle:

In Flanders fields the poppies blow
Between the crosses, row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved, and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.

Been there, to Ypres for Last Call. Very moving. If ever in Belgium or French Flanders, well worth the detour.

[Gentlejim]

OL,
That explains why we have the uniparty.

[Beasts of England]

Sessions would. :)

[James D]

gentlejim @ 9:06

I don't have the personality for it. And I think the truth is, I'd end up just like everyone else once they get to DC. Comfortable in the job, not wanting to upset colleagues, not willing to risk my position and salary and benefits and future employment prospects, not willing to be the one guy in the room pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

I'm that way with friends and family (most of whom are Dems/libs) as it is. If my ability to pay the bills depended on it, too, I doubt I'd have the nerve to say the things I post here.

About the only thing I can say for myself is that at least I know that about myself up front, and I'm not willing to lie about it and make promises that I know I won't be able to keep.

[Old Lurker]

Sessions was one of the two I assumed, Beasts.

[henry]

For all you Ryan fans, < a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-05-25/donald-trump-and-paul-ryan-to-speak-by-phone-tonight">he's going to start publishing his own policy proposals. Do not confuse these with anything Trump is doing. I do not see Ryan endorsing Trump at any point -- he's gone full Chamber.

[henry]

link.

[Marlene]

For inquiring minds,I finished Rita Coolidge's book last night. It was short and sweet and very matter of fact. She was grounded in a loving family, two feisty grandmothers,parents and siblings. Her marriage to Kristofferson was during his heavy drinking and "Outlaw" period,so it was rocky. The only person she has harsh words for is her former mother-in-law.
My impression is that she has tried to live her life without angst and drama,unlike others. (Joni Mitchell and Carly Simon come to mind.)
Now I have to read a serious book. : )

[Gentlejim]

James,
That was wishful thinking on my part. I wouldn't want you to get ruined by DC.

[Miss Marple 2]

JamesD,

That's an interesting observation. I think I am the same way.

I don't think people realize how much courage it takes to run for office. Years ago, when my son was in high school, I got embroiled in a neighborhood controversy.

Our high school's swim team had a coach who got hired as the subdivision swim team coach and pool manager. He wanted to have non-subdivision kids allowed on the team so they could get summer practice for the winter swim schedule.

The kids would only have been at the pool during swim team practice. It was a harmless thing that didn't cost anyone any money and was a good way to help the school.

I had to speak in support of it. My gosh, some of the homeowners acted like we were going to bus in thousands of vagrants to swim in the pool. It got very ugly and people threatened us. Scared me to death.

So I always try to remember that when I get exasperated at some of the politicos. They are doing something I couldn't do. (Especially because I tend to cry when I get angry, which is NOT a good look.)

However, I also would never promise something I couldn't deliver, which is the source of my frustration with DC.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/doing-a-ted-talk-the-full-story.html

http://waitbutwhy.com/2016/03/my-ted-talk.html

I happened upon this this morning and thought it was the perfect summation of my personality.

In an effort to actually do something productive and not continue procrastination, I am going to absent myself for a good chunk of the day.

[Marlene]

One of my favorite thoughts about history and how things might have been different is this...what if all those cousins,the Kaiser,the Czar,the King, had gathered for Christmas dinner and had a political food fight to clear the air. Of course,Victoria had married off her daughters and granddaughters to Russians and Germans, so loyalties were fractured.
The stories of the First War are heart-breaking,parents searching the fields of France for their loved ones.

[Marlene]

MM,father-in-law was on the school board in the small town where they lived. A very controversial vote was taken on an issue and he and a close friend were on opposite sides.
They never spoke again. His friend's wife was my mother-in-law's cousin. They never spoke until the woman was on her deathbed,when my mother-in-law went to visit her. Small towns!

[Buckeye]

The American dead in foreign fields

http://on.wsj.com/1OO8Mbx

Well worth the time to read.

Written by a German-American married to a Chinese-American. He understands the magnitude of the sacrifice better than many 'Murikan-Americans.

[Buckeye]

Petition has been circulated in our 'burb to recall all the city council members.

Crony crap getting out of control.

Sure makes for some interesting kabuki dances when you run into one of them at the grocery store;)

[James D]

So I always try to remember that when I get exasperated at some of the politicos. They are doing something I couldn't do. (Especially because I tend to cry when I get angry, which is NOT a good look.)

However, I also would never promise something I couldn't deliver, which is the source of my frustration with DC.

That's exactly the frustration. To do the job right and honorably requires you to overcome the forces of human nature that will try to corrupt you. When you take office, you take an oath that you will overcome them...but almost none of them do.

[anonamom]

Does this commenter nail it!

It isn't Trump who's far from perfect. Nobody's perfect so that's a given point in any electoral process. What's driving the Trump supporters is the imperfect corrupt atmosphere inside the beltway where no problem is small enough to escape detection and no solution no matter how expensive works. It's an atmosphere where agency directors lie to congressional committees without much worry and where agencies like the IRS are used for political witch hunts and the main actors are never penalized. It's all passed off to bad management practices. A gun running operation called Fast and Furious was hatched to drum up support for gun control but when the plan backfired lies were told, the public was deceived and no one was held accountable. The VA after multiple reforms over the last several years is apparently still up to its old tricks and no one is ever held accountable. Compare the lethargy of DC to the perceived dynamism of Trump. You claim Trump supporters are not intellectuals? Apparently they are smart enough to understand that anyone associated with the current establishment in Washington will never solve the nation's problems. And on that thought they hold the high ground.

http://spectator.org/electoral-hysteria-invites-defeat/

[James D]

It's the same thing joining the police or the military. Part of the job is that you might one day have to risk your life in the line of duty. You might have to take a bullet to protect an innocent citizen.

Nobody wants that, obviously, and you do whatever you can to avoid it, but it's a possibility, and everyone knows it before they apply for the job.

If you're not willing to do that, if you think you couldn't bring yourself to do it, there's no shame in that; you just don't apply to be a police officer.

But if you do take the job, you take it knowing it's a possibility...so if that day does come, and you don't take that bullet and the innocent citizen dies instead, there IS shame, and you SHOULD be condemned.

[Old Lurker]

Good one, Anonamom

[Old Lurker]

test

[Old Lurker]

New thread but nobody is there, either.

Is there a party and you forgot to invite me?

[maryrose]

Anonomom
Prayers for your mom

[Dave (in MA)]

Gay dalmatian hipsters. Not that there isn't anything wrong with that.

[Pagar]

",” the “cancerous” Harry Reid."

Sen Reid who has never waivered in his support of the murder of inconvenient Children: http://www.abort73.com/abortion/abortion_and_race/

says Alan Greyson has "No moral compass"
"Harry Reid: Alan Grayson should drop out of Florida’s U.S. Senate race"
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article60114516.html#storylink=cpy

Encouraging the killing of millions of inconvenient children shows a moral compass?

You've got to be kidding!

[Pagar]

Democratic Senator wants a law forcing presidential candidates to release tax returns

Washington Post
•
May 25, 2016

What I would like to see is the tax return totals for the first year of election and the tax return totals for the last year in office. What meaning is involved in showing only the first year total?