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May 12, 2016

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rich@gmu

his daughter's not being able to swim in Hawaii ... in the Pacific Ocean ... because of global warming ...

that has to rank as a top five on the hit parade.

rich@gmu

sob ... daughters ... plural not possessive.

what the hell is wrong with this keyboard?

rich@gmu

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems."

that's a good one

rich@gmu

R-S-P-E-C-T

he was stoned when he tried to spell that for Aretha Franklin ...

henry

Yeah, everything from Trump is a negotiation starting position blah blah blah

Hilligula is incapable of thought, stray or otherwise.

maryrose

Rich
You are so funny
Porch and daddy correct about the last thread of over 900 entries.
Glad Jane and Caro are having a great time.
Glasater
I would also like to meet you and Pagar.
Happy you had such a nice time.

rich@gmu

In a March 2012 email sent to Hillary Clinton’s private email address, Penn lambasted Obama for his statement to then-Russian President Dmitri Medvedev that he would “have more flexibility” on missile defense issues after the 2012 election.

“This could be about the stupidest thing ever said by a president in foreign policy,” wrote Penn. “To explicitly say that he is laying low on nuclear defense policies because of his election right now and tell your opponent that is to politicize all foreign policy, evidence weakness that can be exploited by others, and undermine the administration’s credibility. “

Penn recommended that Clinton should “consider resigning” if the administration’s foreign policy positions were truly being swayed by Obama’s campaign for reelection. He also cautioned that enemies “from al Qaeda on down” will use Obama’s words to their advantage.

...I could keep this up all day

boris

The Spengler mentioned in the previous thread ...

https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2016/05/11/alien-vs-predator

Trump has come down unambiguously on the side of Israel, supporting continued construction in the Judea and Samaria settlements (and that's the acid test). It's not just that Trump has a daughter who is a serious and observant convert to Judaism, and that he is surrounded by pro-Israeli advisers: he instinctively despises sniveling, backstabbing losers and likes tough, smart and determined winners.

rich@gmu

thanks maryrose.

my 1051 was a long cut-and-paste from a fox news article meant to indicate as such.

The Infamous Ignatz

My only question about that Lydie Denier video re Chris Stevens;
Wasn't the dude supposedly gay?

Miss Marple 2

Ignatz,

That was my question when I saw that last night, but I got derailed by having to wait so long for my granddaughter to get off work.

I still want to know why the diary was turned over to the family rather than the FBI.

henry

Ig, Bruce Caitlin was supposedly female (pending), but now is switching genders. Such things are fluid these days.

The Infamous Ignatz

I would hate to think Ambassador Stevens identified as heterosexual at one point and then as homosexual another because that would indicate he had some choice in the matter and we all know that is impossible.

The Infamous Ignatz

Let's see, a nation is full of people sick unto death of government intrusion in our lives by apparatchiks like the IRS and is hears about the former SoS receiving hundreds of millions of poorly or non disclosed slush fund donations and who has hidden 30,000 emails about yoga from her wiped-with-a-cloth server.

So they think it's a good idea to keep Trump's name in the news for another few news cycles trying to force him to do what they whitewash for her?
I look for his poll numbers to keep climbing.

maryrose

Ryan doing a good job at meeting

henry

maryrose, how can you tell?

Johns_Creek_Bill

From prior thread:

OL:BS again, JCB.

He does not have to prove exactly when he stopped beating his wife either.

You could never provide me with satisfactory proof that Obama is as smart as they say he is, nor that the Clintons are not crooks, any more than I could convince you of the opposite.

Posted by: Old Lurker | May 12, 2016 at 10:05 AM

JCB Responds:
I agree with you 100% on the Clintons and Obama.

It will be interesting to see if Trump does have to prove if he stopped beating his wife.

There was a poll earlier this week that showed Trump with 1% of Hillary with about 17% undecided. There are certain assumptions we can maker about the 17%:

- They don't like either Trump or PIAPS.
- Immigration, the wall and trade agreements are not high on their agenda.
- They are largely non-ideological.
- There vote will be determined on who they like the most, or in this case dislike the least.
-Given this they will be voting based on their perception of the candidates

Furthermore, we know that the MSM, in collusion with the DNC are going to do everything they can to make Trump more unpopular than PIAPS. This means that every potential thing that can be spun against Trump (tax returns, Trump U., etc.) will be spun against him while every potential thing that can be spun against Hillary will be ignored.

Given this what does Trump need to do in order to get the 51% of the 17% to perceive that he is less unappealling than Hillary?


The Infamous Ignatz

Re Henry's 10:59.

Thomas Collins

Yes, better to have regular politicians consistently lie during the campaign than an unsettling outsider such as Trump recognize that proposals may change when policy is made in the crucible of office. Read my lips no new taxes followed by new taxes is better than acknowledging up front that a tax plan will change when Congress gets a hold of it. Better to blather about a borderless world than to present a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US and acknowledge that policy may change.

I am still not a Trump aficionado. But I must say that the thought that many of my friends here may sit this one out or even vote for The Hill troubles me more than the thought of Trumpster becoming POTUS.

The Infamous Ignatz

Stand on the stage next to her.
A particularly unsavory bush pig with a weeping, ulcerated eye and a sucking chest wound would look appealing next the Red Witch.

maryrose

Priebus has tweeted out that discussions are productive.

Thomas Collins

OK, now that I've tweaked my friends here who are anti-Trumpsters, I'll post something that will get me into trouble with The Donald Brigade. Here goes: All the latest polls show is that Trumpster has received a bounce from wrapping the nomination up. The Hill is still a strong favorite.

maryrose

OReilly has said Hillary might not debate.

sbw

Buckeye: Trump has to figure out a way to make an example out of one of the "leaders" of the #NeverTrump crowd.

Silly #NeverTrump has yet to grasp we can build a door into the wall.

henry

Thanks, maryrose.

maryrose

Buckeye
No example needed
You win more people with honey rather than vinegar

Thomas Collins

I would find a way out of debating were I The Hill, maryrose. No matter what the debate rules are, Trumpster would break through them and challenge The Hill on her enabling of her husband's history as a sexual assaulter and her use of a private server.

narciso

identity is not biology, something the sjw's are loath to admit,

under a reasonable matrix, khan's visa would be denied because cage, ahmad, and moussaoui flag too many points on the kevin bacon scale,

cheerleader

Ignatz, It's amazing how so many people did not let the media lies about Mr. Trump break their support for him.

The Infamous Ignatz

What did Buckeye say and where did he say it?

sbw

Ig, my Buckeye reply was based on the last thread.

The Infamous Ignatz

It's not amazing, it's common sense.
All Republicans and most Independents hate the media.
Any Rep who openly made the media his enemy rather than become its supplicant could do the same thing.

Johns_Creek_Bill

PIAPS will only avoid the debates if she is trying to run out the clock.

Avoiding debates in a situation where the race is tight or she is getting blown out would be a yuge disaster.

narciso

why does the house of conquistador, feel the same way, about brexit, as the abominable snowman feels about george,


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/12/eu-referendum-itv-accused-of-a-stitch-up-and-threatened-over-dec/

Captain Hate

Why aren't we talking about how badly the great TREY GOWDY has botched the Benghazi investigation. I need the bobby soxers to tell me why Clouseau with Tim Kaine level bad hair shouldn't be tarred and feathered, preferably on his desiccated scalp, for being more worried about playing nice nice with Elijah Cummings than interviewing the whistleblowers. Excellent data collection imo.

Just another GOPe turd in the Uniparty punch bowl. Amazing Trump has any support.

The Infamous Ignatz

Duh,
I missed your 11:21 SB because I scrolled through just looking at "posted by" names.

The Infamous Ignatz

Does anyone else default to "penis in a pantsuit" whenever they see PIAPS?
I suspect it's because it's so close to priapism

Thomas Collins

I must not be paying enough attention to JOM acronyms. What's a PIAPS? I'm assuming it's not an expression of Bruce Jenner's possible second thoughts about transitioning to Caitlyn.

Captain Hate

I just hope it doesn't ultimately default to President in a Pantsuit, Iggy.

Lurker Susie

Would someone please tell me what Paul Ryan's core principals are?
He keeps saying it but never ever defines it.

lyle

Funny, that's what has been coming to mind with me, Ig. Priapism.

GUS

"Mrs Rodham, your "foundation" took MILLLLIONS of DOLLARS from foreign governments, many of them in the middle east, while you were Secretary of State. Your "foundation" employs dozens of your political allies, and that MONEY pays them. Do you intend to take MILLLLLIONS of dollars from foreign governments while you are President?""

and

"Will Billy Jeff, be allowed to have a girlfriend live in the Lincoln bedroom?"

Captain Hate

"Mrs. Rodham, how badly did you torture Huma after she compared her 'marriage' to yours?"

"Have you and The Omen been introduced to The Energizer?"

Dave (in MA)
Does anyone else default to "penis in a pantsuit" whenever they see PIAPS? I suspect it's because it's so close to priapism
Married to him, in fact.
narciso

this who conquistador cameron was apologizing to,


https://tifrib.com/sulayman-ghani/

he's not as bad as arifi or awadi, but still bad news,

Porchlight

If PIAPS is "President in a Pantsuit" it needs to be changed to FSOSPS "Former Secretary of State in a Pantsuit" pronto. Because she ain't gonna be president. Iggy said so.

Porchlight

FSOSIAPS, sorry. :)

The Infamous Ignatz

Victor Davis Hanson with an excellent essay on the arc of history and settled science.

Captain Hate

The initial PIAPS (not my invention) was Pig in a Pantsuit.

Porchlight

Looks like the Big Meeting went well and accomplished the desired PR goal.

I'm beginning to think it was probably a good idea for both sides and was probably planned by both sides as such. No matter what was actually discussed, it was necessary for party unity. The Trump-Megyn interview will accomplish something similar.

Lurker Susie

Porch,

Reposting link that your kids might like.

Storyline Online
www.storylineonline.net

Porchlight

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ryan-very-encouraged-after-trump-meeting/article/2591135

Expect the endorsement soon.

Porchlight

Thank you, Lurker Susie! I've been looking for something like this forever. I see they have Harry the Dirty Dog - one of my favorites. :)

Lurker Susie

Porch,

The autistic kids I taught loved that site.

glasater

Kudlow mentioned on CNBC that Mitt Romney is the Harold Stassen of the R's.. heh..

Captain Hate

I'm beginning to think it was probably a good idea for both sides and was probably planned by both sides as such.

Maybe but when Top Men start to strategize on not being direct with the public, it usually doesn't end up well. These are unusual times, though...

glasater

And I would love to meet you also, Maryrose!!

Dave (in MA)
"Will Billy Jeff, be allowed to have a girlfriend live in the Lincoln bedroom?"
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Tom Bowler

Priebus has tweeted out that discussions are productive.

I can't help but suspect that Ryan, maybe in that earlier cordial phone conversation with Trump that he mentions, agreed with Trump to hold off on his endorsement until after today's Trump/Ryan/Priebus summit. Look at the press coverage, the expectations, and the potential for momentum when they all come out singing "kumbaya!"

jimmyk

that would indicate he had some choice in the matter and we all know that is impossible.

That seems to be so in a lot of cases, Harris Wofford being an extreme example.

I can imagine someone "on the fence" being persuaded to go on one side by the likes of Ms Denier. She doesn't say in the interview why the engagement broke off, but one can imagine (and I guess she has a book or article coming out).

narciso

in the midst of inspector dreyfus's other remarks,


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/us/comey-ferguson-effect-police-videos-fbi.html?_r=0

Porchlight

- MAY 12, 2016 -
May 12, 2016

A JOINT STATEMENT FROM HOUSE SPEAKER PAUL RYAN AND DONALD J. TRUMP

The United States cannot afford another four years of the Obama White House, which is what Hillary Clinton represents. That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall. With that focus, we had a great conversation this morning. While we were honest about our few differences, we recognize that there are also many important areas of common ground. We will be having additional discussions, but remain confident there’s a great opportunity to unify our party and win this fall, and we are totally committed to working together to achieve that goal. We are extremely proud of the fact that many millions of new voters have entered the primary system, far more than ever before in the Republican Party's history. This was our first meeting, but it was a very positive step toward unification.

jimmyk

Surpluses of over $2 trillion a year? Tariffs? Asset sales?

Failing surpluses achieved by massive spending cuts, asset sales seem like a win-win to me. Smaller government, no need to raise taxes to pay off the debt. The government owns land worth at least in the hundreds of $billions, we could start there. In fact this article (yes it's Time, but still) says the government's oil and gas resources are worth $128 Trillion (as of 2013), more than six times the national debt. Even if they are only worth half that now, it's still enough.

jimmyk

Oops, here's the link:

http://business.time.com/2013/02/05/the-federal-governments-128-trillion-stockpile-the-answer-to-our-debt-problems/

sbw

The government owns land worth at least in the hundreds of $billions

daddy, here’s your chance to reclaim Alaska before Zero gives it back to the Rooskies!

Captain Hate

Somebody needs to talk some sense into George Zimmerman and tell him to stop poking the asylum inmates by reminding them how he dispatched Saint Traytable to Hell. Granted what he's doing isn't nearly as offensive as Bill Ayers but he's doing it to some highly unstable individuals. Since GZ was a 404 supporter it probably means he's unstable too and probably feels sold out by the way things happened (which I still believe was done by the MFM mensas looking at his last name and mistakenly identifying him as a perfidious joooooooo).

jimmyk

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

So how does Trump respond, if, in response to his saying that Hillary enabled Bill's philandering, Hillary replies, "Donald Trump himself has acknowledged cheating on his first wife. And he is going to criticize me for supposedly 'enabling' something that he himself did?"

That seems like such an easy retort, but instead she is trying to pretend to stay on the "high road" and refuses to respond. That suggests to me she is afraid of getting into any kind of direct battle with Trump. That's why I wish journos didn't run the debates. It would be much better if the candidates directly questioned each other.

The Infamous Ignatz

American Capitalism’s Great Crisis.
It gets about 40% right, which, given it's in Time, is more than we could have hoped.

sbw

Obama in Argentina: “You don't have to worry about whether it neatly fits into socialist theory or capitalist theory—you should just decide what works.”

Nonsense, says The Hoover Institution [Hat tip: Instapundit]:

Obama appears not to understand that ideology is alive and well and shapes life in profound ways. Societies are based on core ideological principles that cannot be randomly combined according to “what works.”

Economic, political, and social systems are like three-legged stools. The three legs of the capitalist or free enterprise stool are democratic/pluralistic public choice, a non-interventionist state, and a rule of law that protects personal and economic liberty. The three legs of the socialist stool are a one-party state, pervasive intervention in economic affairs, and a lack of a rule of law to guard personal and economic freedom.

The capitalist stool stands higher and is more stable than its socialist counterpart.

narciso

no the template was to paint him as a nazi, perhaps one of those associates of the mossack family,

he's probably flat broke, because the top men, including governor luthor and sidekick threw him to the wolves,

http://www.steynonline.com/7524/steyn-as-played-by-steyn

GUS

Jimmyk, Rodham is an idiot. She does NOTHING without being TOLD what to say. She's that stupid.
If I'm Trump, I'd ask her HOW MANY LESBIAN hook ups she has had WHILE MARRIED to Billy Jeff.

Captain Hate

Rodham will get destroyed in the debates by Trump; the only question is by how much. She isn't at all glib and her shot glass sized brain can't hold enough data to create a coherent thought.

sbw

Zimmerman should consider the possibility that someone stricken with BLM zealotry might purchase said collector’s item to put it to use against him.

Better to melt it down and bury the slag.

Porchlight

"Donald Trump himself has acknowledged cheating on his first wife. And he is going to criticize me for supposedly 'enabling' something that he himself did?"

He's not criticizing her for enabling adultery, jimmyk. He's criticizing her for enabling rape and harassment, and for harassing those women herself in order to save Bill's career.

Captain Hate

Governor Luthor deserved to be tossed for how he folded in that case.

Lurker Susie

Captain

Rodham will get destroyed in the debates by Trump;

Candy Crowley will rescue her

narciso

yes, but he had charlie cheetah as an opponent, a poser,

Carol Herman

Other than skin color, there's no difference between obama and jimmy carter.

If it wasn't for Bernie Sanders AND Drudge's ability to affect the news with his center top picture posts ... How do the democrats choose hillary without blowing their party apart?

Lindsey graham is weighing the same bits of information over at the GOP. Trump is going to run away with the nomination.

And, if the GOP makes a mistake and doesn't choose Trump? With Drudge leading the story, Trump runs a successful independent campaign against the two-party-losers.

James D

"Donald Trump himself has acknowledged cheating on his first wife. And he is going to criticize me for supposedly 'enabling' something that he himself did?"

There's an easy answer to that, and I could see Trump using it:

"I didn't do it in the Oval Office, with an intern my daughter's age, like your husband did. And i wasn't being sued by a dozen other women for sexual harassment at the time, like your husband was. And I didn't commit perjury and lose my law license and pay half a million dollars in damages like your husband did. And I didn't have a whole squad of goons trashing her reuptation at taxpayer expense, like you did, Hillary."

narciso

I didn't find this piece as insightful, point of personal privilege,


http://observer.com/2016/05/as-boyish-ben-rhodes-drops-truth-bombs-obamas-media-mask-drops/

Old Lurker

Since I have lived in DC for four decades and since I do not like or trust Paul Ryan, I confess to being bothered by this sentence of the joint statement:

"That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall."

I see that we do not need to unite behind this one candidate...and maybe we need to unite go to the convention and unite behind another one.

Washington speak.

narciso

this is why overbroad statements like the one in the thread work,


https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/730617820296273921

Old Lurker

Washington speak.

Like where Ted Cruz can drop out last week (excuse me, suspend), and float a trial balloon a week later that, well, maybe not.

F'emall

sbw

100 naked women at the Republican convention?

Reminds me of the Jeff Foxworthy routine claiming men always dream about beer and naked women.

Even old men in senior citizen homes, he says, dream about naked women . . . No! Not that one!

Theo

From Jim Geraghty at NRO --

"Trump is untrustworthy, flip-flopping slime of awful character, obnoxious, crass, authoritarian in instinct; a bully, ignorant of policy and unwilling to learn, stirring up people’s worst impulses, disrespectful to anyone who doesn’t kiss his ass, likely to enact a plethora of policies I oppose, and likely to affirm Obama’s imperial approach to the presidency. And you want me - as you’re apparently willing to do -- to shrug and hand-wave all of that, just because he’s not Hillary Clinton?"

I understand that for many of you, not being Hillary Clinton is enough to vote for ANYONE.

I think that a lot of people want to have someone to vote FOR, at least to some extent.

I remember the Onion (back when it was good) nailing John Kerry by reporting a speech he gave in which his entire campaign premise was that he was prepared to not be George W. Bush from the first day in office.

Porchlight

Rodham is a good liar in that everyone knows she's lying but she gets her points out pretty forcefully anyway.

But if anyone hasn't yet seen the recent clip of Trump calling in to Chris Cuomo's show on CNN, you should. Trump starts off by ripping Cuomo for not congratulating him, then rejects the premise of Cuomo's first question, then makes fun of the Clinton News Network, then proceeds to dominate for 17 more minutes. By the end of it Cuomo is apologizing and begging Trump to come on the show more often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9I0NbF34cd8&feature=youtu.be&t=3

I've waited what seems my entire adult life for a candidate willing and able to do this and now we finally have one.

The debates will be the most watched in history. I don't know if lizard Hillary ever gets nervous, but I sure hope so.

henry

Insurance company reimbursments illegal. Decision stayed for now.

anonamom

After forty years of peripherally following the field, I can't put a whole lot of stock in psychiatric diagnoses/explanations, short of schizophrenia, autism and sociopathy, but if Caitlin/Bruce goes back to Bruce, I am TOTALLY falling in line with the "transgenderism is a body dysmorphic mental derangement like anorexia" that one of the original pioneers in the field, Professor Emeritus Paul Hughes, MD, has come to conclude.
(Which is why Johns Hopkins stopped doing the surgery.)
Despite the nephew/niece, and The Danish Girl!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120

Old Lurker

That's great, Henry.

Another dog barks. Anybody seen the caravan lately?

The Infamous Ignatz

Is Romney insane or just remarkably unscrupulous?
To hint that Trump needs to release his tax returns by saying;

“While not a likely circumstance,” he said, disclosing the taxes would prove Trump has no “hidden inappropriate associations with... criminal organizations, or other unsavory groups.”

Does he think Trump's tax returns mention a donation to the Gambino Family Trust?
Or does he think the lack of a donation to the Gambino Family trust proves he has no mob connections?

Of course the answer is no to both.
He just thinks a sly bit of character assassination by innuendo, of a guy who donated to and endorsed him last time around, is perfectly fine.
And Trump is the guy without presidential temperament or moral fiber.

narciso

about what I thought,


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/12/911-commission-saudi-arabia-hijackers

they did this, in their private capacity, however, they are liable,

Captain Hate

yes, but he had charlie cheetah as an opponent, a poser,

Ugh, I see your point.

Btw that nude photographer geek has been here before; one of the "natural conservative" book group members was part of it::barf::

Theo

OL --

""That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall."

I see that we do not need to unite behind this one candidate...and maybe we need to unite go to the convention and unite behind another one."

Not exactly. What I think Ryan is saying is that he and his people will unite behind Trump IF he gets in line with Republican principles and a conservative agenda. Otherwise, he is on his own. In other words, they are NOT supporting Trump being Trump or on any other unconditional basis. Good for them.

Thomas Collins

"Former Secretary of State in a Pantsuit"-FSOSIAP.

"Pig in a Pantsuit"-PIAPS Scene 1.

"President in a Pantsuit"-PIAPS Scene 2.

OK, Porchlight and CH, thanks for the acronym lesson. Perhaps we'll soon have another one to learn: "Former Secretary of State in an Orange Jumpsuit"-FSOSIAOJ.

henry

Iggy, he must be referring to the "Line 25z- total contributions to organized crime (include Schedule RICO)" on the 1040.

Old Lurker

Iggy,

On my 1040 I saw the box to check if I own or have control over, say, a foreign bank account.

Did I miss the box to check if I have an association with criminal organizations or other unsavory groups?

Besides, if Trump donated money to the Romney Campaign, would he have to check that box?

The Infamous Ignatz

--And you want me - as you’re apparently willing to do -- to shrug and hand-wave all of that, just because he’s not Hillary Clinton?--

Actually I think more and more people are willing to tell the fastidious little Jim Geraghtys of the world to go find a ultra sexy picture of Hillary and go hand-wave until November.

Lurker Susie

OL

"That is why it’s critical that Republicans unite around our shared principles, advance a conservative agenda, and do all we can to win this fall

I wish Ryan would define this ^^^^^

Captain Hate

Here's hoping, TC; if that happens you should come out here and we'll take a cooler out to Squire Valleeview farm and celebrate with a cold one by the bust of the primary partner of SS&D.

Old Lurker

"Not exactly. What I think Ryan is saying..."

Is where Theo says what he hopes Ryan means rather than what I say he might have meant in Washington Speak. In the abstract, either of us could be right; based on my observation of the man and the GOPe Uniparty he serves, my money is on mine version.

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