History repeats itself:
After an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to deliberate on a new Constitution for the United States of America. The subject speaks its own importance; comprehending in its consequences nothing less than the existence of the UNION, the safety and welfare of the parts of which it is composed, the fate of an empire in many respects the most interesting in the world. It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force.
—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1 (1787)
Amazing if the Brexit vote holds up. Could be good for Trump in several ways. It shows voters may be really ready for a change even a radical one unthinkable to the elites. Also the resultant economic downturn will be blamed on the Democrats.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The referendum is technically non binding. Watch out for a Remain coup.
The email was included within messages exchanged Nov. 13, 2010, between Clinton and one of her closest aides, Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin. At the time, emails sent from Clinton's BlackBerry device and routed through her private clintonemail.com server in the basement of her New York home were being blocked by the State Department's spam filter. A suggested remedy was for Clinton to obtain a state.gov email account.
"Let's get separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal being accessible," Clinton responded to Abedin.
Clinton never used a government account that was set up for her, instead continuing to rely on her private server until leaving office.
The email was not among the tens of thousands of emails Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence.
For once, Theo is s correct. Dial it down re. Brexit. Not binding. Nothing will happen for years if at all. High likelihood the PTB tell the UK voters to screw themselves.
Occasionally we have 3 time zone Skypes, but generally the Ukrainians relay directives to the Asians. It has been.... interesting.
Plus next week we are adding 5 data clerks in India (I fought like hell against that). And now I get to mother hen the whole kaboodle. Anyone got a babel fish?
Key is where the votes yet to be counted are from. If from central London, not good. If from outside the city and not Scotland or Ireland or the weird places like Falklands or Gilbralter, very good.
Is Europe unraveling? Gorka says Europe is "dead as a doormouse" (whatever that means--isn't it "dead as a doornail"?). Sovereignty is the key issue.... Migration tipped it.
Funny story... had a skype this am... very early am and I run in to catch the call and 1/2 way through I realize I'm in a t-shirt, no bra and no shorts and I've been skyping in my undies for about an hour. I think it almost broke the net. ;)
I saw an article where some EU bigshot/nitwit was complaining that the member states were paying too much attention to their voters and needed to simply move towards an ever closer union without consulting them.
First?
Posted by: cathyf | June 23, 2016 at 10:45 PM
Yay, cathyf!
Posted by: Frau Edith Steingehirn | June 23, 2016 at 10:47 PM
I think there's a November landslide brewing for the good guys. The NeverTrump people better wake the hell up.
Posted by: RattlerGator | June 23, 2016 at 10:47 PM
History repeats itself:
After an unequivocal experience of the inefficiency of the subsisting federal government, you are called upon to deliberate on a new Constitution for the United States of America. The subject speaks its own importance; comprehending in its consequences nothing less than the existence of the UNION, the safety and welfare of the parts of which it is composed, the fate of an empire in many respects the most interesting in the world. It has been frequently remarked that it seems to have been reserved to the people of this country, by their conduct and example, to decide the important question, whether societies of men are really capable or not of establishing good government from reflection and choice, or whether they are forever destined to depend for their political constitutions on accident and force.
—Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 1 (1787)
Posted by: Lurker Susie | June 23, 2016 at 10:47 PM
197 VOTING AREAS REPORTING (52%)
Remain 48.3% 7,242,316 votes
Leave 51.7% 7,762,796 votes
Still no results from Ireland.
Posted by: DrJ | June 23, 2016 at 10:48 PM
Ah-ah-ah... 7-up!
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 10:50 PM
"Lie back and think of England!"
Posted by: daddy | June 23, 2016 at 10:50 PM
Leave
Votes
8,412,095
Votes
Remain
Votes
7,895,253
Votes
176 results left to declare
http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Oops. I meant to post that on the last thread, for Ann.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 10:51 PM
Rep.John Lewis doin' the okie-doke
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 10:52 PM
So where are their Movie Stars and Rock And Roll Bands going to flee to in protest? Brussels?
Posted by: daddy | June 23, 2016 at 10:53 PM
or he's getting the okie-doke done to him.
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 10:54 PM
Too funny questioning Corey going to cnn
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Richard Grenell – Verified account @RichardGrenell
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Posted by: Lurker Susie | June 23, 2016 at 10:54 PM
IT'S HAPPENING.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 10:55 PM
"I can't breath!"
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Chunnel hit hardest...
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 10:57 PM
I knew you guys would pull through. We gotta keep our sense of humor.
Don't you love Pelosi with her pearls and Apple watch singing we will overcome!
Posted by: ann | June 23, 2016 at 10:57 PM
Amazing if the Brexit vote holds up. Could be good for Trump in several ways. It shows voters may be really ready for a change even a radical one unthinkable to the elites. Also the resultant economic downturn will be blamed on the Democrats.
But let's not get ahead of ourselves. The referendum is technically non binding. Watch out for a Remain coup.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 10:58 PM
Y'all got me to abandon the regex, parser patterns with 8 business days to launch of the new website with your giddiness...
Come on Dover! and Chelsea! and Mayfair!
And they asked me to stay on after the launch to run the whole shebang!
Posted by: Stephanie | June 23, 2016 at 11:00 PM
how was that program for the ukrainians, you were writing,
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | June 23, 2016 at 11:02 PM
Leave
Votes
9,517,271
Votes
Remain
Votes
9,003,133
Votes
148 results left to declare
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 11:03 PM
It shows voters may be really ready for a change even a radical one unthinkable to the elites.
Buh-duh.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 11:04 PM
That's the one. We go live with the new website on 7/11. I'm hip deep in parsers, regex, debugs, payment systems, help desks....
And we now have developers in the Ukraine and in Singapore, so my sleep habits are... zzzzzz...
Posted by: Stephanie | June 23, 2016 at 11:05 PM
Farage declares.
Holy cow. I'm going to seriously tie one on, folks.
Happy Independence Day!!!!
The Founders smile.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:06 PM
I hope they are not on the same conference call, because that would be wild,
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | June 23, 2016 at 11:08 PM
Porch --
Don't pop the champagne cork just yet. Not yet a done deal. But the pound is tanking.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM
The email was included within messages exchanged Nov. 13, 2010, between Clinton and one of her closest aides, Deputy Chief of Staff Huma Abedin. At the time, emails sent from Clinton's BlackBerry device and routed through her private clintonemail.com server in the basement of her New York home were being blocked by the State Department's spam filter. A suggested remedy was for Clinton to obtain a state.gov email account.
"Let's get separate address or device but I don't want any risk of the personal being accessible," Clinton responded to Abedin.
Clinton never used a government account that was set up for her, instead continuing to rely on her private server until leaving office.
The email was not among the tens of thousands of emails Clinton turned over to the agency in response to public records lawsuits seeking copies of her official correspondence.
Posted by: Neo | June 23, 2016 at 11:11 PM
Porch,
What station are you watching? Is there a station that is LIVE?
Posted by: ann | June 23, 2016 at 11:13 PM
THE KIDS ARE ALRIGHT
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:14 PM
Theo: were you the guy who reminded the teacher that she forgot to assign homework for the weekend? ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | June 23, 2016 at 11:14 PM
I'm watching BBC coverage...they are so sad
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:15 PM
if they didn't have double standards. they would have none,
http://heatst.com/politics/26-of-the-democrats-who-participated-in-the-gun-control-sit-in-own-guns/?mod=sm_fb_post
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | June 23, 2016 at 11:15 PM
Leave
Votes
10,780,412
Votes
Remain
Votes
10,216,261
Votes
118 results left to declare
Posted by: Janet S. | June 23, 2016 at 11:16 PM
For once, Theo is s correct. Dial it down re. Brexit. Not binding. Nothing will happen for years if at all. High likelihood the PTB tell the UK voters to screw themselves.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:17 PM
I'm watching Fox Business. Sky News trimmed its forecast to "Leave" by 52-48. (It was 53-47 an hour ago.)
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Watching Sky News live via Roku.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Tightening just a bit. Leave at 51.3%. Still enough votes out there to make up the difference. Hang on tight. This could be real close.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:19 PM
It is interesting that the English (excepting London) and the Welsh are favoring Brexit. The Scots are against. No word yet from the Irish.
Posted by: DrJ | June 23, 2016 at 11:20 PM
Occasionally we have 3 time zone Skypes, but generally the Ukrainians relay directives to the Asians. It has been.... interesting.
Plus next week we are adding 5 data clerks in India (I fought like hell against that). And now I get to mother hen the whole kaboodle. Anyone got a babel fish?
Posted by: Stephanie | June 23, 2016 at 11:20 PM
I am with you Porchlight. It would be a great start for us if they win!!
http://www.bbc.com/news
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36612368
"The UK's EU referendum is proving close but the Remain campaign appears to be failing to pick up enough support outside London to win."
Posted by: ann | June 23, 2016 at 11:21 PM
Here is narciso's link again.
The cryptic comment did not clue me in. It is Colmes vs Gorka.
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4974524819001/who-is-to-blame-for-the-orlando-massacre/?#sp=show-clips
A clean kill.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 11:22 PM
Northern Ireland
Leave 310,825
VOTES
Remain 380,544
VOTES
This really is a good link - http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
Posted by: Janet S. | June 23, 2016 at 11:23 PM
I think there's a November landslide brewing for the good guys. The NeverTrump people better wake the hell up.
Sing it, RG.
Posted by: Frau Edith Steingehirn | June 23, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Not binding.
SFW. Don't be like that, brother.
The vote is going our way. Western Civilization is not lost.
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Wsj is live blogging. They are feeling some serious butt hurt.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Keep the great updates coming.Off now into the woods and like Miss M I'll be a prisoner of NPR since Prager has been booted for a ball ame
Posted by: daddy and fry and scout | June 23, 2016 at 11:24 PM
Nytol. Falling asleep at keyboard.
Hope Leave wins.
Posted by: Miss Marple 2 | June 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM
Nothing on Belfast yet, Janet.
And you have fireflies in Arlington! Absolutely delightful. We don't get them in CA.
Posted by: DrJ | June 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM
A clean kill.
Flounder in a barrel.
Posted by: Stephanie | June 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM
I think the message is important on its own, regardless of implementation. I wouldn't undersell that aspect.
Posted by: Beasts of England | June 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM
In a dry barrel.
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 11:26 PM
Leave
Votes
11,274,488
Votes
Remain
Votes
10,684,775
Votes
108 results left to declare
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 11:26 PM
I haven't emailed you in a long time, Stephanie.
How are you?
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 11:27 PM
London being held back until they know how many votes they need to manufacture?
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:28 PM
Results seem to be piling in now, Leave's margin keeps growing, now over 750,000.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:28 PM
51.3%. Holding steady.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:29 PM
Most of London is in....
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:31 PM
Key is where the votes yet to be counted are from. If from central London, not good. If from outside the city and not Scotland or Ireland or the weird places like Falklands or Gilbralter, very good.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:31 PM
Porch --
Very good if true about London being mostly in.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:31 PM
Rotherham votes to Leave. Can you blame them?
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:32 PM
Now Sebastian Gorka is on.
Is Europe unraveling? Gorka says Europe is "dead as a doormouse" (whatever that means--isn't it "dead as a doornail"?). Sovereignty is the key issue.... Migration tipped it.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:32 PM
Now it's narrowed a bit still over 700,000.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:33 PM
Per Sky, London boroughs just coming in.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:33 PM
And they asked me to stay on after the launch to run the whole shebang!
You can do that in your jammies, Steph :-)
Posted by: glasater | June 23, 2016 at 11:34 PM
Traders are selling pounds and buying yen. Can you explain why they would do that jimmyk?
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:34 PM
Leave
Votes
12,751,576
Votes
Remain
Votes
11,944,720
Votes
80 results left to declare
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 11:37 PM
The majic number is 16,800,000.00. Whoever gets there first
is the winner.
Posted by: Lurker Susie | June 23, 2016 at 11:37 PM
That's fantastic, Steph!! Although they probably just wanna hear your accent some more... ;)
Posted by: Beasts of England | June 23, 2016 at 11:37 PM
I've never been so happy to see blue on a map!
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Finance people like the status quo, Theo. And the politicians have convinced them it's the end of the world. I'm with Gorka: "A storm in a teacup."
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:39 PM
ITV just called Leave as the winner
Posted by: Whos ITV | June 23, 2016 at 11:39 PM
51.6%. Lead growing slightly. Almost 80% in.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:39 PM
ITV has called it for Leave.
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:40 PM
Stephen Moore is on (isn't he WSJ?) and he's very happy, says "It's the end of socialism."
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:40 PM
But why JPY, jimmyk?
Posted by: Another Bob | June 23, 2016 at 11:40 PM
BBC calls it for Leave!
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:40 PM
Beeb calls is for "Leave."
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM
Excellent, TK, but sleepy.
But as glasater says, I can work in my jammies!
Funny story... had a skype this am... very early am and I run in to catch the call and 1/2 way through I realize I'm in a t-shirt, no bra and no shorts and I've been skyping in my undies for about an hour. I think it almost broke the net. ;)
Note to self... don't stand up while skyping.
Posted by: Stephanie | June 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM
To echo Another Bob, why the yen instead of the $?
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM
Trumps Fault!
Posted by: Obama Sucks | June 23, 2016 at 11:41 PM
I don't think it's specifically JPY, it's just the Pound falling against everything else.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:42 PM
BBC calls it for LEAVE!
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:42 PM
Since they've called it for Leave, I think I'll exit now on this historic overnight.
Posted by: RattlerGator | June 23, 2016 at 11:42 PM
Last I saw, the pound was down almost 10% against the dollar.
Posted by: jimmyk | June 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM
you want to worry about something, consider this captain tupolev move,
http://libertyunyielding.com/2016/06/23/federal-judge-scraps-clevelands-event-zone-security-plan-rnc-citing-free-speech/
Posted by: buccaneer morgan | June 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM
Yes
Richard Grenell
1m1 minute ago
Richard Grenell @RichardGrenell
Brexit lesson: ignore the elites. Make America Great Again.
Posted by: Lurker Susie | June 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM
Posted by: Whos ITV
Haha!!!
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM
WSJ says that yen is the escape currency of choice for those fleeing the pound. I don't understand why.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:43 PM
Holy [redacted]. I prayed for this. I thought it could happen but I didn't dare to hope. Been burned so many times.
MBGA!!!
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:44 PM
This is so great!
Leave is going to win!
Posted by: maryrose | June 23, 2016 at 11:45 PM
I saw an article where some EU bigshot/nitwit was complaining that the member states were paying too much attention to their voters and needed to simply move towards an ever closer union without consulting them.
Maybe that message got through.
Posted by: Theo | June 23, 2016 at 11:45 PM
I must go, I wish PUK was here. Love you all, good day and good night.
Ann
Posted by: Ann | June 23, 2016 at 11:46 PM
I must go, I wish PUK was here. Love you all, good day and good night.
Ann
Posted by: Ann | June 23, 2016 at 11:46 PM
MBGA!!!
Hah! That's great, Porchlight.
Posted by: Janet | June 23, 2016 at 11:46 PM
Jeebers, Steph!
Posted by: Threadkiller | June 23, 2016 at 11:47 PM
Sorry
I posted too late.
Leave has won -FAntastic!
Posted by: maryrose | June 23, 2016 at 11:47 PM
Hawt
Posted by: Dave (in MA) | June 23, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Britain. Oh YEAH!!!!!!!
Posted by: GUS | June 23, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Great to see you Ann!
Posted by: maryrose | June 23, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Thank you, but can't claim credit, Janet. Found it on the Trump Reddit forum. :)
Love you Ann! Good night!
Posted by: Porchlight | June 23, 2016 at 11:49 PM