Gay Lives Matter, Maybe, But Covering For The Orlando PD Matters More

NY Times reporters Richard Perez-Pena and Frances Robles disgrace themselves in their coverage of the Orlando night club shooting. Per the Times, Questions Have Been Raised by the release of the Orlando PD logs, texts and emails:

Gunfire and Panicked Calls on Police Log of Orlando Shooting

It took just 16 minutes.

Emergency calls from inside the Pulse nightclub poured into the Orlando police in the early morning of June 12 from panicked and wounded revelers reporting the bloody scene as it played out. Dispatchers noted that they, too, could hear gunshots in the background, according to a police log that was among hundreds of pages of documents about the massacre released by the city on Tuesday.

The incident log gives a staccato narration, based on entries made in real time and time-stamped down to the minute and the second — the most detailed account yet of what happened after Omar Mateen, 29, armed with an assault rifle and a handgun, walked into a bustling club with a mostly gay and Latino clientele and opened fire.

Oh, the question?

Other documents released on Tuesday raised questions about whether one of Pulse’s exits might have been blocked.

Really? The elephant in the club gets a passing mention:

At the end of a three-hour standoff, for which some have criticized the police’s delayed response, 49 people had been killed and 53 wounded. But nearly all the slaughter took place in just those first 16 minutes.

"Some have criticized" the delayed response. Gee, do all these police logs shed any light on that controversy? Not in this story. Yet back on June 20 these same reporters, joined by Eric Lichtblau, were well aware of questions about the timeliness of the police response.

Let's cut to the WaPo coverage of the newly released logs:

Documents show chilling police calls, internal deliberations after Orlando shooting

Here is paragraph six and following:

The documents show people from all over the world, including many business leaders and public officials, emailed or texted Dyer and Mina to offer their support. Many praised the officials for their handling of the incident, though some questioned why police did not move more quickly to engage Mateen. Officials have said that after two shootouts, Mateen holed up with hostages inside a bathroom at Pulse, and police waited for hours to move in for a final confrontation because the gunfire had stopped. Mateen was ultimately killed in that last confrontation with Orlando police SWAT officers.

Police seemed sensitive about the insinuation that they had not made the right tactical decisions. When one emailer questioned the decision not to move on Mateen more quickly, Mina wrote to his staff director, “Come up with a standard response, thank you for your concern etc, and let me approve, then we can use for anymore of this nonsense.”

A police public affairs representative — addressing requests she had received to interview the officers who engaged Mateen — mused that making any available might subject them to tough lines of inquiry about the wait.

“In some instances, I would say we should try to produce someone, since that seems and feels like a very positive thing,” Michelle Guido, the public affairs representative, wrote. “But there’s so many ways it can go sideways of that officer is asked difficult questions (why did you wait 3 hours before going in, etc etc. …).”

Hmm, the WaPo found a controversy. How about the Wall Street Journal?

Orlando Shooting: Police Dispatch Records Illustrate Hours Before SWAT Team Sent In

Callers inside club reported where they were hiding, gunman’s whereabouts, severity of injuries

By Arian Campo-Flores  June 28, 2016 6:42 p.m. ET

Police dispatch records released Tuesday provided new details about what took place inside an Orlando, Fla., nightclub during the June 12 mass shooting and could fuel additional questions about why it took officials about three hours to send in a SWAT team to rescue hostages trapped in two bathrooms.

The records, among a large batch of documents released by the city of Orlando, appear to corroborate a reconstruction of gunman Omar Mateen’s movements published by The Wall Street Journal.

OK, so the WSJ led with the puzzling police response time. Yet the Times essentially ignored those questions? Wow. For a real blast at the Orlando PD, check out Bob Owens at Bearing Arms.

In evaluating NY Times reporting I frequently remind myself of a variation of an old adage - never ascribe to their political agenda what can be explained by mere incompetence. But in this case, since the Times is all-in for disarming the citizenry, I guess they have decided they need to downplay the reality that when minutes count the police are hours away. Or sometimes right in the next room, talking things over. But either way, the police are likely to put their own safety and protocols ahead of the disarmed victims they are meant to be protecting.

I don't mean to be teeing off on the police officers - they have a thankless job and get second-guessed whatever they do. But the Times still ought to take a chance and present their readership with a dose of reality here.

ERRATA: I love the name "Eric Lichtblau" and think it is terrific to see a Times reporter declare his political affiliation so plainly.

 

 

 

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[Threadkiller]

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[rich@gmu]

iirc they were concerned with spite bombs in the parking lot ...

Rudolph used one and luckily he buried it too deep and an armored vehicle was parked close enough to it that it took most of the blast (it was his last bombing in Birmingham and some news crews were filming when it went off).

Palestinian terrorists have done similar things as well. One incident took out police and medical response personnel.

[Jack is Back!]

TM,

You expect too much from the Times in their coverage of an Islamic radical versus AllGayLivesMatter versus the Cops.

Lets get our political priorities at the Times straight:

1st = Gun control and repeal of 2nd amendment
2nd = Gay rights and allegiance to the Democrat template
3rd = Police incompetence and brutality.
4th = Radical Islamic Terrorism

4th may be a higher level of interest and priority but in the Orlando incident it is where I would place it.

[buccaneer morgan]

Well remember how frances Robles got her job with Carlos slims, covering for the crumpjulian gang.

[buccaneer morgan]

Two weeks later, they still haven't flagged the Iranian imam, who musri invited.

[Captain Hate]

ERRATA: I love the name "Eric Lichtblau" and think it is terrific to see a Times reporter declare his political affiliation so plainly.

What does this refer to?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Seems like a more appropriate thread for this;

Hmmm, Homosexuals and bisexuals report significantly poorer physical and mental health than heterosexuals and smoke and drink heavily at a higher rate.
You'll never guess who is responsible for such group pathologies, but I can provide a hint.
It starts with hetero...

BTW they also comprise ~2% of respondents.

Contains this quote;

Gonzales told Reuters Health that the health disparities are likely due to the stress of being a minority, which is likely exacerbated among bisexual people, who may not be accepted by lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender communities.

Time for another "hmmm"...if you're not accepted by a community in which the very name of your predilection is, well, named, then perhaps the word "community" needs to be revised.

More importantly the rate of physical illnesses was much higher in all LGBT groups, while the psychological problems were only moderately higher, but the study was accompanied by a note only mentioning the psychological stuff as being thos darn bigots' faults.
Guess they figure it's a little harder to blame the physical results of risky behavior on "homophobia" than the mental distress it results in.

[rich@gmu]

Lichtblau -> light blue ... still scratching my head though.

One of those jokes that is funny when you are thinking about it but not quite as funny when you try to write it down. Happens to me all the time.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

8 Best Quotes From Clarence Thomas's dissent From Texas Abortion Case.

Glad to see he views the supremely stupid levels-of-scrutiny doctrine with as jaundiced an eye as I do.
Among the current justices, including Scalia, only Thomas shows the proper disdain for the Pharisaical penumbra virtually all judges layer on top of the plain words of the Constitution.

[Captain Hate]

Iggy, this all began when the shrinks decided to give the homos a pass on being mentally ill despite having a higher than average rate of suicide. Tammy Bruce has frequently mentioned the high rates of alcoholism among her kindred lezzos as being a deliberately ignored problem.

[matt]

Another incident of workplace violence in Istanbul.

Funny, I remember traveling through Europe back in the 70's and going down on the tarmac and moving my suitcase from one side to the other. I remember the GSG-9's and their compatriots in every airport wit5h their dogs and MP-4's.

It seems that we have forgotten the lessons of the past. All of the billions and billions of dollars spent have not been able to shield us from a known threat.

There is no self policing in the Muslim community. We allow radical imams to preach hate in their mosques, and we shut down programs such the NYPD's very effective surveillance and monitoring operation.

And our leaders won't even call it what it is. How dishonest can we be with ourselves?

[buccaneer morgan]

Typepad chewed up my post about imam shadayat, only atta, shukrijumah, Jose padilla, were in his circle. So debbie dubious seems ok in having him host one of their events.

[Captain Hate]

Clarence Thomas makes his points so effectively they could probably be understood by Popeye Reid, assuming he hasn't had any more exercise band mishaps.

[Dave (in MA)]

Heh.

[buccaneer morgan]

I should have figured that robin wright would pen the apologia for red queen, her catalog of category error is nearly infinite.

[buccaneer morgan]

That's one of justice Thomas top 10 opinions, I think.

[maryrose]

Excellent dissent by Thomas.
He and Judge Alito seem to be the remaining conservatives with Roberts at about 50percent of the time.

[Dave (in MA)]

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/06/feds_indict_second_walsh_official_in_music_fest_extortion_probe

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, that there's union hackery going on in Boston after they elected a career union hack as Mayor. SHOCKED.

[cheerleader]

Mr. Trump early on cited Justice Thomas as being the model for the kind of judges he wants on the SCOTUS.

I've been down about the transitioning phase, but after reading a series of tweets by Bill Mitchell, who has gotta be Trump's biggest cheerleader, I'm feel better, especially after reading about Trump's new hire from the Cruz campaign.

Bill Mitchell ‎@mitchellvii
Glad to see Trump staffing up his Communications and "quick response" team. That has been highly needed.
7:25 AM - 29 Jun 2016

[maryrose]

TK
Posted this on the wrong thread.
Trump is a smart practical guy.
He knows he needs Kasich more than the reverse.
He just has to make a conciliatory move toward Kasich and get the benefit of The Kasich machine in Ohio .

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Iggy, this all began when the shrinks decided to give the homos a pass on being mentally ill...--

I sincerely believe homosexuals are disordered. There are a great many mental and personality disorders which manifest themselves in limited and particular areas. Like homosexuality they appear in childhood or the teenage years and often don't have an obvious cause. Most are also intractable and/or incurable. And most are coincidental with higher rates of physical and emotional problems and higher rates of suicide.

And now they're doing it for trannies.

I'm glad they don't use the "it doesn't exist" diagnosis and treatment protocol for any of the illnesses I'm likely to contract.

[cheerleader]

A really good antidote to all the anti-Trump toxic propaganda is the new-every-day presidential election thread, at the The Last Refuge (Conservative Treehouse). It is always full of uplifting news and information that counteracts and contradicts whatever the msm is peddling. Best of all, the anti-Trump trolls who are paid to infest and stifle pro-Trump threads are immediately blocked and booted.

[maryrose]

"Stifle pro Trump threads are immediately blocked and booted."
Wow we really are using leftist tactics this election but if it gets Trump elected I guess the end justifies the means.

[maryrose]

If Trump is too proud to approach Kasich he should have one of his operatives do it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

If Kasich is too proud to approach Trump etc.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/us/politics/donald-trump-trade-speech.html

The NYT thought it was a pretty good speech, opposed by both the C of C and the democrats.

There is some concern by me that the NYT isn't trashing it, but maybe this will calm down the NeverTrump group.

[Miss Marple 2]

I prefer them blocked and booted to people having to close of comments completely, like Scott Adams did.

[GUS]

I recently met identical twins in their late 20's, as we chatted, I asked if they had ever played tricks on girlfriends.
One of them said...."I'm gay".

Identical twins.
Discuss.

[maryrose]

See my previous posts Iggy
He doesn't have to approach Trump.
Trump insulted Kasich personally and never regretted that fact.
Put yourself in John Kasich's place.
Why would you?

[-peter]

We have good friends who are identical twins; one is gay.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Wow we really are using leftist tactics this election...--

Cheerleader said they're blocking trolls.
If you go there you will see some relatively polite disagreements and arguments over tactics and policy.
What you won't see are feces flicking trolls causing riots.

[Captain Hate]

That Robin Wright article should be labeled a campaign contribution to Rodham. Where were any questions about the multiple security upgrade requests that Cankles repeatedly turned down? Chris Stevens's sister obviously hated him to so readily make excuses for someone with so many dead bodies in her wake.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Trump insulted Kasich personally and never regretted that fact.--

Are you stating Kasich has not insulted Trump personally? Or do you excuse his insults because you agree with them or think they're justified?

--Put yourself in John Kasich's place.
Why would you?--

I would support Trump wholeheartedly because whatever my disagreements with him pale in comparison to the prospect of Hillary as president.

Your volunteering, despite your distaste for Trump, is a perfect example of what Kasich should be doing instead of his public preening.

[buccaneer morgan]

Discus allows the nazguls free reign. We know weavers number, he will counsel mailman's son to resist.

I've concluded decisions like Mondays are a

[Captain Hate]

Kasich isn't a team player and anybody claiming otherwise is just making things up. Even though I voted for him twice I can't wait for him to be gone.

[maryrose]

Rattler gator
I believe you stated"We've spoken?
I never voted for Trump.
He received a plurality of the vote.
People are not obligated to endorse if we still live I the free America I have always lived in
We don't give up our rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness because Trump is the nominee.
Because Trump is a unique presumptive nominee you will see behavior you haven't seen before.
Reagan himself had an uphill battle at times.
It is Trump's move pure and simple and he should have done it yesterday.
I know his golf course in Scotland is important but so is this election.
I have inquired repeatedly on this blog about his money sources.
I have gotten policy positions provided by cheerleader.
I am open to other positive reports.

[buccaneer morgan]

About drumming up business and b) about demotivating the opposition.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://brexitnotracist.com/

This is an interesting article about the OUT voters in London, and how the IN voters are completely nuts and bullying them and such.

Also a good explanation of how he views the EU.

I like to see stuff like this from people actually there, rather than the "interpretations" we get from the news people here.

[RattlerGator]

Whoever linked this article in the prior thread from Damon Linker:

http://www.theweek.com/articles/632380/how-brexit-shattered-progressives-dearest-illusions

thank you, that was a great read.

Iggy, re maryrose:

Your volunteering, despite your distaste for Trump, is a perfect example of what Kasich should be doing instead of his public preening.
Posted by: Ignatz Ratzkywatzky | June 29, 2016 at 11:31 AM

Exactly right.

[maryrose]

Iggy
If Trump wants Kasich's endorsement plenty of people canhelp him get it.
He must not think he needs it or Ted Cruz's for that matter.
Precedent is Sanders not endorsing Hillary.
Has Biden endorsed Hillary?

[Miss Marple 2]

By the way, if you don't want to read that whole article on Brexit, DO watch the video the EU put out, which in this country would have been called extremely racist!

[maryrose]

Iggy
Politicians don't operate under the same moral code that we do.
My sole purpose is to defeat Hillary.
I have this fear that the outcome of this election isn't as important to Trump as it is to me.
We can't have Hillary.
Am I wrong to feel this way?
Please reassure me.

[RattlerGator]

maryrose, let us not be disingenuous. Kasich is the Governor in the host state of the Republican convention. Sanders? Not even remotely applicable to this discussion.

As I wrote previously, provide me an example of a host Governor acting this way in the past and I'll revisit my analysis. Otherwise, Kasich will get no benefit of the doubt from me. Ohio isn't the only place in America that calls a spade a spade. What he is doing is petty and shameful.

[buccaneer morgan]

At right scoop they have almost completely taken over, at breitbart and daily caller, the infestation is manageable.

[Old Lurker]

Does anyone really think Kasich will support Trump while he holds out a shred of hope that the party will go to him in desperation at the convention?

Really?

Kasich is a self absorbed ass who got his butt kicked and always will be.

[Janet the expert]

If I get "excessive health problems" can I blame it on homosexuals not agreeing with my beliefs?

I smoke...so I blame men that say they are women.

[GUS]

I wouldn't kiss Kasich's ring, I'd have him kiss my (REDACTED).
Who the f(redacted), does Kasich think he is?
Holding a state such as Ohio hostage is what he intends to do, so he can extract a pound of something. Kasich sux.

[Thomas Collins]

Latest Quinnipiac poll has it close.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/quinnipiac-poll-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

[buccaneer morgan]

So they can't explain why the markets are back up, any more then why they plummeted last week.

[Beasts of England]

You misspelled 'douchebag', OL. ;)

[maryrose]

OL
Yes I think if Kasich is approached in the right manner he will enact a compromise but I am an optimist.
RG:
You have stated your belief.
I have stated mine which is that Kasich's actions come from his own beliefs.
They are not in my opinion venal.
Payback can hurt but remember Trump brought it on himself with his nasty no holds barred campaign.
I believe but am not certain that Trump struck first in an uncouth crass manner.
Kasich has helped my family over the past 8years.
Trump , Pftt as MM likes to say.

[maryrose]

You guys are conjecture get about what Kasich is going to do.
No one really knows what will happen but my guess is that Trump gets nominated.
Republicans don't like to upset the apple cart.
If any movement starts it will be quickly be put down.
Priebus doesn't want to make the evening news for the wrong reasons.

[maryrose]

Indianapolis probably doesn't have enough hotels.

[jimmyk]

the shrinks decided to give the homos a pass on being mentally ill despite having a higher than average rate of suicide.

As Iggy's link earlier pointed out, it's all the heteros' fault for not being "accepting," and for not allowing them (until recently) to marry. (Cue joke about the effect of marriage on mental health.)

[buccaneer morgan]

TM, seriously frances robles, and mrs luciano and matt gutman, made george zimmerman a pariah why expect truth from them, they hide the fact that an iranian imam swore out a fatwa in the mosque of iman musri who was at the cair sponsored conference the day of the terrorist attack,

[buccaneer morgan]

some good news, her rival was a cuomo crony,

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/28/underdog-conservative-claudia-tenney-beats-establishment-new-york-primary/

[buccaneer morgan]

no we know totus, is punking him,

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/06/28/obama-mr-trump-embodies-global-elites/

[Miss Marple 2]

I keep hearing how Trump doesn't have the temperament to be president, but it seems to me he has been very gracious to Paul Ryan (more so than I would have been, for sure).

And how do we know he hasn't called Cruz or Kasich and been met with nastiness? We don't.

Meanwhile, Cruz delegates are trying to organize a coup, which Cruz could STOP in a heartbeat, and Kasich hasn't offered any comments which could be considered remotely supportive.

[jimmyk]

Interesting how the Orlando story has morphed from reports that all the deaths were after the police moved in, to now this story that suggests most of the shootings happened at the outset. I would think this new information makes it harder to blame the police, unless it's argued that some of the wounded died in those hours while the police held back.

But sure, complain about the police waiting three hours to move in, but whitewash the lack of military response to the Benghazi attack.

[Marlene]

Trump is at a fundraising luncheon in Boston before he heads to Bangor. The sister of Glen Doherty, Kate Quigley, is supporting Trump and is attending the event. Trump should have family members front and center at his events.
People are standing in the rain in Bangor to enter the venue.

[buccaneer morgan]

well most of the injuries had to come initially, the failure to protect as samantha power would put it, probably expanded the body count,

[Miss Marple 2]

Signs of the times, or how Millennials are now being encouraged to eat cereal, as opposed to more substantial breakfasts:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/40e73060af4c471ca1365ff4a6d7659a/kellogg-opening-cereal-cafe-nyc-amid-soggy-sales

The ONLY reason you could make this profitable is that it's probably the cheapest meal you can get in NYC at $6.50.

[Beasts of England]

I'd like to see Trump get Jack Nicklaus to speak at the convention. He's very sincere and well spoken, and a favorite son of Ohio...

[buccaneer morgan]

as James D, has said, you can do anything to any democratic constituency, and they will barely whimper, boston perhaps the bluest major city, was devastated three years ago, they covered it up, gays and latino, slain, squirrel, reporters have their phones tapped, even are subpoena'd to testify, hundreds of mexicans cut down by weapons the us govt supplied the cartels,it's like something of out of orwell or koestler, the real life analogue,

[Thomas Collins]

Right across the street from me, Marlene. I could hear the crowd roaring at about noon. I won't be attending. This is for the really heavy sluggers (you know, the types who can make an aggregate of at least six figures in campaign contributions each campaign season, and, when they're not attending fundraisers and other events for important people, can take both Destiny and Tatiana off rotation and into the champagne room for their entire eight hour shifts).

[Miss Marple 2]

One other thing:

The chattering class and the NeverTrump people are going on and on about fundraising, ground game, etc. etc.

The other day on Meet the Press, Manafort said they have chosen not to publicize everything they do. This is in line with how Trump operates business negotiations (I read his book).

He does not go into an area and announce that he is buying up land. Instead, he quietly makes deals so as not to drive the price up.

It is quite possible there is a lot going on that we don't know about. I am interested to see if I am right. Catching the democrats flat-footed would be extremely satisfying to me, so I do hope I read this correctly.

[buccaneer morgan]

you would think nate bronze would have the presence of mind, not to embarass himself further,

[maryrose]

Beasts
Good idea.
Believe me if Trump approached Cruz or Kasich and was rejected we would have heard about it😟
Now the information from Marlene wrt Maine is encouraging.People lining up!
Now that is what we need in every state.

[buccaneer morgan]

it's worse than myopia,

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article86476492.html

[James D]

So they can't explain why the markets are back up, any more then why they plummeted last week.

Isn't it interesting how leftists who usually decry the stock market and corporate profits and scoff at "paper profits' and all the rest of the laundry list of whining, suddenly are so concerned about the performance of the market from moment to moment when a vote or current event doesn't go their way?

In some of the whining about the Brexit vote, I've seen the complaint that "$2 trillion of value disappeared overnight." What utter garbage, and so far beyond hypocritical coming from prog statists that you need a new word to describe how hypocritical it is.

[maryrose]

I don't assume anything wrt money or ground game and Republican nominees.
I learned my lesson after the Romney loss to never take that for granted again
It is either secret or under- developed.
In either case time will tell as it will regarding all things in this election.

[maryrose]

JamesD
So true, especially when it is WallStreet Mama Hillary making the accusation.

[buccaneer morgan]

it earns the name morning joke every day,

http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/06/historian-meacham-says-dems-win-intellectual-argument-trump-wins-emotional-one/#comments

[buccaneer morgan]

they have no shame, but this was true with quradawi, and awadi in the uk,

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/263322/one-week-after-orlando-democrats-feature-anti-gay-joe-kaufman

[buccaneer morgan]

lord lockjaw, removes all doubt, again:

https://twitter.com/thomasjoscelyn/status/748164779567517698

laura found a new name for red squaw, ruth buzzi from laughin.

[Beasts of England]

I love it when we agree, maryrose! 😎

[maryrose]

Buccaneer
Ruth Buzzi it is!
Glad to hear of the fundraiser in Boston.
Hillary and Warren really are Fric and Frac

[Lurker Susie]

Hmmm,

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[buccaneer morgan]

you know I joke about demolition man, being a primer for what they intended, and then you see the bearing arms link, and it's dead serious, they really do follow san angeles rules,

[buccaneer morgan]

laura was also pointing out, not only does ruth buzzi, get big wampum from wall street, (sorry it takes time to readjust) but her professorship is endowed by Cleary Gottlieb, a big white shoe firm, that was hip deep in the madoff marasss,

[Lurker Susie]

Excellent Trump ad

The Patriot
The Patriot – ‏@ThePatriot143

Marine Who Survived #Benghazi Attack Stars in Pro-Trump Ad Produced by the NRA #Trump2016 #CrookedHillary
https://amp.twimg.com/v/7c642e3e-3034-44f4-84d1-c97cf3ebabfe …

[henry]

Its amazing narciso. As rse points out, the left is all about crippling rationality so we get SJWs that need safe spaces from anything they disagree with... yet they claim to "win" the "intellectual" argument. Running to the nearest safe space with your fingers in your ears is "intellectual."

[buccaneer morgan]

I know back then he wasn't disdaining appalachians,

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/296227/elizabeth-warrens-wall-street-money-machine-kevin-d-williamson

[lyle]

http://tammybruce.com/2016/06/michelle-obama-pledges-100m-of-u-s-tax-dollars-to-educate-girls-in-morocco.html

What a talented woman: Wife, Mother, First Lady, Healthcare Executive, World Traveler, Federal Funds Appropriator...

[maryrose]

I like when we find common ground as well Beasts.
Hopefully with the new Quinny poll and bad Benghazi news they try to cover up Hil will take a few hits the end of June and beginning of July.
The fact that Dems included Trump I their report totally discredits it.
The simple truth the election was more important than Stevens and our other 3 patriots and that Hillary lied about the true nature of the attack should be pounded home relentlessly by Trump.
He has the talent to do it and he should take some jabs at the lying insincere Earnest for good measure.

[maryrose]

Lurker Susie
Excellent post!

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Can any of you state radio addicts report if Zippy took any blame for the Brexit vote by campaigning against it, proving the Merde Touch is still working?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--In some of the whining about the Brexit vote, I've seen the complaint that "$2 trillion of value disappeared overnight."--

Brexiteers 1 : 0 Scaremongers - UK Stocks Erase All Brexit Losses

[maryrose]

Some deal going down between Bill and Loretta.
I wonder what price Obamz is demanding.
Obama came out bad in the Benghazi report because he neglected to read the PD B report the following day because of his re-election fundraiser in Las Vegas.
Maybe he
Needs reassurance of Clinton's silence and agreement on their cover up story.

[Old Lurker]

"Why Did Bill Clinton & Loretta Lynch Meet Privately On Her Airplane On Phoenix Tarmac?"

That she has her own plane is a symptom of our national decline.

[maryrose]

Capt:
The Merde touch is alive and well in all that Obama touches or does.
Now we just need it to hold while he campaigns for Hillary

[maryrose]

OL
Agreed
Has any other Justice official had this perk?
Maybe Trump can mention it as part of the global warming debate.

[Old Lurker]

After all this time of printing endless money to pay for endless deficits and zero interest rates, anyone who thinks that stocks are "worth" what dollars they trade for on any given day should not be invested in the stock market in the first place.

Just sayin.

[Old Lurker]

Holder had it too, Maryrose.

[maryrose]

Lyle
Even though we have no money at least these gals will learn to read.

[maryrose]

OL
That is racist if only Holder and Lynch got it.

[Old Lurker]

Jets?

I'm so old fashioned I resent all the limos our betters have in DC at our expense as well as the "zoned" taxi fares that let those of our betters who do not yet have their own limo reach their K Street watering holes for the lowest fare. Ditto the reserved parking spaces at Reagan airport...

Femall.

(yes I know the taxis are metered now but I am still mad at them)

[Captain Hate on the iPhone]

Tammy Bruce: a non corrupt attorney general would never meet with the spouse of a target of an investigation.

NK needs to return to explain why he shilled for her.

[matt]

Ig;

The gay/trans/whatever population has been steady at @3% for the past 60 years ever since Masters and Baters began keeping stats.

It is probably a miswiring of genetic code or of the synapses in the brain. I don't think people "go gay". It is what it is. The same is, I think, true with transsexuals. You want to talk about suicide and addiction rates and hopelessness? They are in a world of hurt.

The leading surgeon at Johns Hopkins has stopped doing gender reassignment surgery because it does no good for the individual. The same psychiatric and psychological and spiritual issues after just as before.

From a species point of view they are abnormal. 97% of the population is hetero. As to their rights, they deserve the right to be left alone and to be free to find happiness.

As to the sacrament of marriage it is inviolate. One man and one woman. It is the structure upon which all of society rests, spiritually, physically, and empirically.

Moynihan got it right in his 1965 book. We are seeing the degeneration of society because of the disintegration of the family and the attacks upon faith and reason that try to rationalize the chaos it has caused.

Libertinism is the enemy. Foucault preached radical perversion and engaged in the same. The fear of society of homosexuality was born of the fear of the preying upon youth and beauty.

How are these teachers who sexually prey upon their pupils any different from an older man wooing a younger one? Lotharios have always been condemned by society. Casanova was an object of scorn and ridicule, not a role model. The Eurogays used to travel to Morocco to engage their catamites and it is a long standing habit in the Ummah.

But these are perversions. Bob & Bob down the street who have been together 20 years don't really concern me. But the way our society has embraced perversion does.

The old joke is "what is a lesbian's favorite car?" - a U Haul; brings it home. Unstable relationships, drama, and some of the really weird shit that some of these people engage in are what sets some them apart as moral outcasts. Just my $0.02

[RattlerGator]

I doubt seriously any claim of the gay population that isn't somewhere around 10% -- they did a big step back to a claim of 3% years ago to seem far less threatening to the culture, etc.

But they are solidly at 10% or so.