Sunday Morning Post Debacle Open Thread

Oh, brother.

OK, the Brexit question du jour - can London survive as the leading financial center of Europe (not to mention the world) if whatever is left of the UK is out of both the Euro and the EU?

In terms of current rankings, global finance is basically the old British Empire plus Zurich and Tokyo. Having English as the lingua franca is a plus, because bankers, lawyers and operations staff can flit around the globe relatively painlessly.

A logical long-term successor would be Frankfurt, currently placed at 18 on the global list. But would French, Italian and other European leaders - excuse me, "leaders" - be comfortable with Germany as the financial as well as commercial superpower of Europe?

Proponents of the "English spoken here" theory will note that Dublin (currently 39th) and post-independence Edinburgh (56th) are potential European alternatives.

That said, England will remain a major world economy with a very long history as a financial center with widely understood rules. It's decline would probably take decades.

Comments

[Buckeye]

1sr?

[Buckeye]

iPad keyboard sux

[Miss Marple 2]

Exactly how was the UK "in" the Euro?

I am confused.

[squaredance]

Here is a fine response to the REMAIN crowd from an MEP at an Oxford Union debate. I recommend that you listen to it--it is brief.

At the end he quotes Tennyson, but truncates it.

This last stanza of his Ulysseskeeps coming up in the media--it was even in a Bond film--but it never seems to get quoted in full, so I will post it here.

It may be that the gulfs will wash us down;

It may be that we shall touch the Happy Isles,

And see the great Achilles, whom we knew.

Though much is taken, much abides; and though

We are not now that strength which in old days

Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are —

One equal temper of heroic hearts,

Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will

To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

[Beasts of England]

Get those serifs outta here!! ;)

[Thomas Collins]

There will be no Brit decline. And if EU wants to survive, it will need to change back to Common Market arrangements. The borderless order is ending. It won't be pretty. As rse has documented, the universal therapy state adherents are determined to impose their totalitarian will. But the Brits have taken a necessary step in modulating the excesses of the universal therapy state.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2016/06/23/they-will-never-lie-away-our-godgiven-rights-n2182207

[Janet the expert]

Oh squaredance!...what a great comment & link. Thanks.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The threat to London is the same as it is to the rest of the world; $100 trillion in bonds outstanding, $500 trillion in derivatives based on them and a world economy crippled by the masters of the central bank universe policies.

Crises usually take a different form than the last one so perhaps it will be more political or several extensions of politics by other means this time instead of a deer in the headlights financial crisis.
But, as night follows day, there is ALWAYS a reckoning for stupid policies which defy mathematics, the real word and human nature.

We are witnessing one of the greatest bull markets in worldwide stupidity in history.
Short stupid.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

From TC in the last thread;

but if Reuters is picking up that Dems are more likely to vote

Seems to me pretty much every data point I've seen indicates the enthusiasm gap and votes this year compared to previous ones disfavors the Dems.
Am I wrong?

[clarice]

Even its opponents admit, that in the UK wages will go up, food prices down. I see the possibility to trade with partners less moribund that most of Europe is. I think much of the downturn is based on uncertainty, but until new tariff arrangements are worked out big retailers are facing uncertain projections on future earnings and the travel industry will be in a tizzy. I'm going abroad soon and wonder what currency to use in each country--I expect some euros and some dollars and American Express for most other things.

BTW about that phony baloney poll:http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/nbc-wsj-poll-clinton-leads-trump-5-points-n598716

It's closer than Reuters and probably much closer than this one shows.

[Mahon]

Europe needs Britain a lot more than Britain needs Europe. Arrangements will be made.

[Miss Marple 2]

An interesting phenomenon I have noticed on Twitter and YouTube are the numbers of independent videos supporting Trump. I did not notice this in the last election supporting Romney.

Here is one, which I posted on the last thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTWpjrfzUVg&feature=youtu.be

Now, some may think this is too religious or Bible-based, which I fully understand. However, it's well done and speaks to the emotional connection which apparently is bubbling just below the surface, much like that of Brexit.

You cannot buy this level of loyalty. It comes from the heart.

[clarice]

Daniel Hannen on Brexit--dynamite:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YNcF3h3NgQ

[henry]

Ig, the enthusiasm gap may depend on how many #nevertrump exist outside of paid talking heads and unemployed campaign drones. Certainly a Reuters polling team knows more in that group than in the hoi polloi in flyover country -- and may be Pauline Kaeling their estimates on turnout. This year is odd, I have no sense of what will happen in November.

[DrJ]

In other news, the Western States Endurance Run was held yesterday. The winner was Andrew Miller, age 20, who finished the 100-mile trail race from Squaw Valley (near Lake Tahoe) to Auburn in 15 hours, 39 minutes.

I can't even imagine doing something like this.

[Thomas Collins]

Re the last line of squaredance's 11:07 AM quote of Tennyson: The Latin translation, Certare, Petere, Reperire, Neque Cedere, is the motto of my high school.

Reuters may be an outlier, Ignatz and clarice, but both the national and state polls fairly consistently show The Hill in the lead. They're not all outliers.

[Thomas Collins]

Ignatz, re enthusiasm: primary turnout is not a good predictor of general election results. And the Goldwater and McGovern campaigns show that intense primary enthusiasm is no predictor of victory in November.

[Miss Marple 2]

Lady Gaga is now appearing with the Dali Lama at the US Conference of Mayors (which is pretty much a democrat deal, in case you are wondering).

Lots of talk about being happy and loving everyone. I don't suppose they will showcase Rahm Emanuel in this session.

[Simply stupid]

Thomas Collins, how did Obama lose over 5 million votes from 2008 but managed to pick up about 1.5 million voters that never voted through megadata. If that does not signal fraud than what does.

[squaredance]

Well, it is shameful that she has such a lead, if true. It is up to Trump to educate the electorate; it is up to the GOPe to get behind him. It is that later that may be is biggest challenge at the moment.

Certainly his last couple of speeches hit the right tone--he seems to be finding is voice.

He needs to keep hammering away.

The rest o us must take heart from this Courage of our cousins in the UK and press forward in our personal circles.

I think he is right: it is likely now or never.

[Simply stupid]

Media has to supply story and narrative and the gop trump divide is the story du jour but is basically b.s. and as Scott Adams says it will be a landslide for Trump in November.
Recall after Cruz won in Wisconsin that everyone was off the Trump bandwagon without anyway looking at the primary road map which had NY, Pennsylvania and NJ coming up. Trump had it sown up before Wisconsin but we were blind to see it.

Right now it is only a negotiation as to how much Trump cedes to the Gope.

[squaredance]

RSE: but of course, the Democrat cities are Hell's on earth. Outside of the "creative" conclaves, they are not working at all, so this is really just happy speak for a cosseted community of real and aspiring limo liberals, and is completely disconnected from reality.

As OPM dries up, as all the idiotic "policies"fail, this sort of gobbledygook with become bitter in their mouths.

Sooner or later, minorities in these blue hells will cut the upper class liberals out of the political loop and elect their own people, forge their own alliances, and create their own political machines.

When that happens and the "be happy and love everyone" sing-song will be thrust aside--and when it does we will see how racist the limo liberals really are.

[squaredance]

sorry, I was responding to Clarice, but I reflectively addressed it to rse for the content was in her bailiwick.

[Simply stupid]

I am surprised that no one brought up the parallel of Obama and Hillary's blasting Mitt for calling Benghazi a terrorist attack hours after it occurred to the way they mocked Trump's comments about Orlando. They fooled the electorate once with the playbook and the Gope has not learnt . Fortunately Trump has fought back and hopefully will remind everyone about the falsehoods this administration has foisted on the public.

None of us can keep our doctor and many of us may need shrinks for the coming four months if it continues on this path.

[Miss Marple 2]

Personal opinion, have no knowledge, but here goes:

I think Trump will make a sincere outreach at the convention to the black community, young people, and unions.

I have detected hints of this in his speeches and in his Twitter feed. Getting a share of those votes would do serious damage to Hillary's chances.

The country cannot continue as divided as we are. There is too much resentment and too many people sowing seeds of hatred for political advantage.

I think the parties are realigning, and it may be that this is what will prove the edge in the fall.

[Thomas Collins]

Simply stupid, it was a combination of a superior get out the vote effort and old fashioned Dem fraud. The Dems are better than the GOP in applying the fruits of data gathering and analysis with bare knuckles politics. Obama's lost votes from 2008 would have been greater without both the geeky and the crooked.

[Miss Marple 2]

Personally, I think Trump should invest in a 50-state electronic voting jamming program, so that everyone has to vote with paper ballots like in the UK.

[clarice]

There was a realignment in Britain. The working people voted against their party's stated appeals. I think here, too, miners and factory workers, cops and firemen, hunters,fishermen and farmers must be grasping that the Dems have aligned with the bankers and hedge fun owners and goldman sachs against their interests.

[Miss Marple 2]

Now the local TV channel is giving us quotes from Lady Gaga:

CBS4 Indy ‏@CBS4Indy 5m5 minutes ago

.@ladygaga: "I think of the world like an apple sitting on a table. If you don’t preserve the apple, its going to rot quicker."
1 retweet 1 like

CBS4 Indy ‏@CBS4Indy 2m2 minutes ago

.@ladygaga: The good seeds preserve the apple and the bad seeds quicken the erosion. We want you to all be good seeds. #USCM2016
View conversation
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[Centralcal on iPad]

Apples? Good seeds and bad seeds. Whatever - I think of GaGa like an overripe banana - turning black, oozing pungent fumes.

[Beasts of England]

Reuters is wishcasting, Ig. The enthusiasm on the center and right is significant. Adding Warren to the ticket may help her draw out the youth vote, but their identity politics may require Castro; so they're going to have a hefty portion of their base who feels slighted. Turnout will be an issue for Team D.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Ignatz, re enthusiasm: primary turnout is not a good predictor of general election results.--

Neither are pre convention polls so perhaps let's stop talking about both?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Lady Gaga and the Bad Seed in the same sentence; apropos.

[Miss Marple 2]

Ignatz,

I am waiting to hear the words of wisdom from Justin Bieber, who is also in town.

Gaga is a big draw for the gay community, which seems every generation to select a new female idol to embrace. Other examples would be Judy Garland, Liza Minelli, Bette Midler, Madonna and now Lady Gaga.

I sure would like to know the thinking behind this, if for nothing else that to be able to make money on the next star's early stuff.

[glasater]

I read in one of the articles posted here that GB has to send Brussels 350 million pounds (couldn't find the symbol for pounds sterling) a week!

That's a ton of money..

[henry]

Miss M, Bieber is Canadian... but otherwise fits on your list. ;)

[Man Tran]

Iggy from last night:

My favorite and namesake uncle was a crew chief on -17s and switched to -29s towards the end of the war. He also spent time in Tripoli, but that might have been after the war. Without any formal education, he was a mechanical genius. Could look at any gizmo and immediately figure out what was wrong and how to fix it. They flew him into Chicago to fix Lemay's -29 when he was forced to land short of his goal of non-stop from Tokyo to DC.

[MaryD]

I like the way you think, MM

[Uh]

"EXCLUSIVE: Brexit ‘2nd Referendum Petition’ A 4 Chan Prank: BBC Report It As Real

By Louise Mensch | 9:38 am, June 26, 2016

The 4 Chan Bots represent the ultimate failure of the Remainstream Media.

The BBC’s desperate shilling for Remain will come under increasing scrutiny as we exclusively reveal that the supposed ‘popular petition’ for a second referendum – wholly illegal and unworkable, and unprecedented in British history – is a prank by notorious sh*tposters 4 Chan.

The BBC, the UK’s national broadcaster, gleefully reported, as real, with no basic journalistic checks, an online petition that appeared to be growing at a colossal rate. By 1:30 pm, it was one of the fastest-growing petitions in history.

So fast, in fact, that somebody should have checked for bots and scripts. The BBC is failing totally in its Charter Duty to perform basic journalistic research. "

http://heatst.com/politics/exclusive-brexit-2nd-referendum-petition-a-4-chan-prank-bbc-report-it-as-real/?mod=sm_tw_post

[MaryD]

Sounds like it runs in the family, Man Tran

[clarice]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/26/bad-news-lurking-in-a-good-poll-for-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-supporters-are-more-certain-theyll-vote/?tid=sm_tw

Maybe if we have more legalization of marijuana none of her supporters will quite make it to the polls at all.

[windansea]

Brexit turnout by age group

18-24: 36% 25-34: 58% 35-44: 72% 45-54: 75% 55-64: 81% 65+: 83%

[windansea]

"A really important decision was made for us by the older generation," she explained, noting that exit polls showed that three-quarters of voters aged 18 to 24 wanted to remain in the EU. By contrast, more than 60 percent of seniors aged 65+ voted to leave.

maybe you should have voted dummy

[Truthbetold5]

If Donald Trump Is the Nominee, Hillary Clinton Has Already Won in November

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2016/06/26/if-donald-trump-is-the-nominee-hillary-clinton-has-already-won-in-november-n2183450

[Thomas Collins]

If we are going to stop talking about polls, Ignatz, we might as well stop talking about the horse race aspects of political races entirely. Polls at this point, I acknowledge, often don't reflect the final results. But they provide more useful insights than simply relying on our own gut feelings. The early polls showing Trump was a serious player were ignored or downgraded by the likes of Nate Silver, and they look pretty foolish now for ignoring or downgrading the polls.

[clarice]

glasater--Britain paid in 13 million pounds to the EU last year. and got 4.5 billion pounds back from them.

[Janet the expert]

on FB - Carolyn Harlan wrote - "I loved what Sundance said in his latest post at the Treehouse:

"It should be noted today how visibly absent Hillary Clinton is from the campaign trail and political discussion. Yes, most certainly her entire team is poll-testing every word she might make as to the outcome of the UK/EU referendum; but it’s actually more than just that.

As we previously mentioned (several times), a Brexit result would mean the Clinton camp would have to shift their entire election campaign approach.

Hillary Clinton is the visible personification of a globalist; even the name of her foundation is the “Clinton Global Initiative”. See the problem?""

[Miss Marple 2]

Political Novice wins Iceland presidency

https://www.yahoo.com/news/johannesson-leads-icelands-presidential-vote-partial-result-000003789.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw%C2%A0

I bet he did it without a ground game, too!

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/06/25/nfl-great-herschel-walker-says-hes-blackballed-speaking-gigs-anti-trumpers/

[SBW iPadmini]

TC: Polls at this point, I acknowledge, often don't reflect the final results. But they provide more useful insights than simply relying on our own gut feelings

It's important to have insights that don't mean anything except in hindsight.

[Captain Hate]

Last night's Chicago White Sox loss to Toronto was the first time in MLB history that a team hitting six home runs more than the opponent lost the game.

[Miss Marple 2]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2016/06/26/glenn-reynolds-britain-popular-upheaval-elite-class-flyover-country-washington-london-trump-brexit-labour-column/86405874/

[pagar a bacon, country ham and sausage supporter]

Just more EU insults:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/279537-eu-to-launch-kettle-and-toaster-crackdown-after-brexit-vote/

[Miss Marple 2]

pagar,

Seems to me that someone should figure out how much money all those EU guys in Brussels make from the global warming/green industry.

[Captain Hate]

To give a rare note of praise to Paul Ryan, Rove News Sunday included a clip where he berated the House fatassed sit down protesters for using this stunt as a fundraising opportunity.

[clarice]

Whoops--$23 BILLION pounds (not million)

[clarice]

Another error $13 BILLION pounds ,glasater

[clarice]

100,000 EU functionaries were paid more than PM Cameron last year and I doubt that figure includes their lavish benefits.

[SBW iPadmini]

100,000 or 10,000.

Not that it matters

[Porchlight]

Did TC turn into Theo overnight? :)

We have a nominee, who is not a politician, who secured the largest number of votes in GOP primary history, against 16 opponents, with both parties and all the media and violent protesters arrayed against him, having spent less money than any candidate in modern history, having raised almost none of it from big donors or even little donors, all the while defying all the predictions of all the big brains of all the pundits and analysts.

He is up against one of the worst candidates of all time, who is a criminal under a current FBI criminal investigation.

What we are seeing has literally never been seen before. I guess I'm not really seeing it in 2012 terms of ground game and GOTV and metadata, and I guess I never will.

[buccaneer morgan]

if there were no polls, they might just have to talk about the terrorist attack that happened two weeks ago, the slew of incidents that keep happening, the jobless recovery, I say might because f chuck and the other members of the chimp circle, have little knowledge of this,

[Captain Hate]

He had to ruin a rare good hair day by opening his yap:

http://www.weaselzippers.us/279580-democratic-senator-calls-for-ammo-control/#disqus_thread

[buccaneer morgan]

feckless tool, but he's full of feck,

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/sorry-chris-wallace-hillary-clinton-go-home-sleep-benghazi-attack/

[Thomas Collins]

Porchlight, what am I saying now that is different from what I have been saying?

I KNOW. You sensed in the mystical vibrational world that I did the deed you didn't want me to do, and you are going to tweak me for it.

Forgive me? It really doesn't look that bad, although I know better than to send you a pic! :-)

[BeenThereDoneThat]

The more they yap for gun control, the more a growing number of gun-owning Indies and disaffected Democrats are pushed into the Trump camp. Let 'em yap!

[buccaneer morgan]

well it's a start,

http://therightscoop.com/i-expect-to-vote-for-trump-in-november-ken-cuccinelli-defends-trump-on-racism/

the scoop has been plumbing some nasty soil, left over from the kos kids,

[clarice]

Yes, SBW--I have to stop trying to type numbers.

[clarice]

In May the Telegraph said that number was 10,000. In june they said 1,000.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/7841716/Over-1000-EU-officials-earn-more-than-David-Cameron.html

In any event it's ridiculous over compensation.

[Captain Hate]

feckless tool, but he's full of feck,

Noot was taken aback by this bit of fractured fairytale fact checking; as if he knew it was wrong but couldn't believe somebody would try to pull a whopper like that. I'll check the transcript.

[buccaneer morgan]

did I say fishwrap, the fish would be insulted,

https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/status/747034470444900352

[buccaneer morgan]

really now, as if you have ever been,

https://twitter.com/BBCNews/status/747107494976118784

[Captain Hate]

Ok, here we go

TRUMP: Among the victims of our late ambassador Chris Stevens, I mean she -- what she did with him was absolutely horrible. He was left helpless to die as Hillary Clinton soundly slept in her bed.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

WALLACE: Now, Mr. Speaker, you can certainly argue about how Hillary Clinton handled Benghazi. But the fact is, the attack happened at 3:00 or 4:00 here in the afternoon in Washington. And she was working late into the night.

As I say, there's plenty to attack her on. But why not stick to the facts?

GINGRICH: Well, first of all, I've had different people say different things about what she did that night and what her instructions were. Second --

WALLACE: She wasn't asleep is the point.

GINGRICH: OK. She certainly --

WALLACE: Maybe she should have been, but she wasn't.

(LAUGHTER)

GINGRICH: OK. I think that on a lot of things people can argue about that Trump says and that Hillary says, but the objective fact is there were over 600 requests for security from Libya. Now, that number came from the chairman of the intelligence committee, not from Donald Trump. They were ignored.

The fact is that in the end, there was no effective effort to respond. The fact is, she clearly lied about why it occurred. And again, you had families of the people who were killed who say she lied to them.

Rupert needs to be flooded with calls about this Fox/Snopes fact checking.

[Porchlight]

Forgive me? It really doesn't look that bad, although I know better than to send you a pic! :-)

Nooooooo! Say it isn't so!!! :)

[Thomas Collins]

Yes! It's so! I was wrong in my prediction! And I promised! Don't think for one minute that I wasn't getting that dinner at L'Espalier from BOE if I had won the bet (or the other goodies, such as six months of chocolate chip cookies from Mary D, I had been promised).

I take your reply, Porchlight, as confirmation that you don't want a pic emailed to you! :-)

[Texas Liberty Gal]

MM - Thx so much for that link to the Trump video-I got goosebumps while watching it

Captain Hate - Speaking of baseball how about those Texas Rangers!!!

[buccaneer morgan]

what's that word again in german?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3443814/posts

[buccaneer morgan]

they can't actually contemplate what's going on or they would turn to stone,

http://www.michellesmirror.com/2016/06/make-america-clintons-again.html#.V3AuW7grLIV

[Captain Hate]

Here's the Great One on Trump's speech including a ten minute sound clip:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/levin-trump-hit-it-out-of-the-park-with-speech-bashing-clinton/

TLG, the Rangers are doing great but so are the Indians; after Wednesday's parade we're hoping for a November one.

[squaredance]

BM: Could "Hurer" be the work you are looking for? Or perhaps "Moralisch verkommenen"?

[squaredance]

work=word

[Old Lurker]

"Rupert needs to be flooded with calls about this Fox/Snopes fact checking."

They don't care. All MSM all the time at Fox News now.

Femall.

[buccaneer morgan]

second smallest violin,

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2016/06/26/homesick-clock-boy-ahmed-reportedly-returning-texas/

[jimmyk]

Had the misfortune of inadvertently seeing Michael Steele on Bill Maher's show, before I could either throw something at the TV or find the remote. Maher actually said something like the election was a choice about putting your country ahead of hatred for Hillary, so as not to elect a horrible human being like Trump. Ok, I expect BS like that from Maher. But Steele, instead of saying "What?? You're actually claiming Hillary is a better human being than Trump??!?," responded with some mealy-mouth "You have to try to understand where Trump's appeal is coming from," blah-blay. In other words, not disputing Maher's characterization, but just trying to find excuses (as if they needed them) for people voting for Trump.

[squaredance]

So true...I would like to know what he has done that makes him so horrible: All I can find is that he is successful, (refreshingly) blunt, not PC and not a liberal.

Maher is a beta make whinging about an alpha, and from all O can tell, a fsr more horrible buman being than Trump. THe very idea of him setting a standard for "human behavior" is risible. They make a perfect couple.

[buccaneer morgan]

I avoid bill maher, on principle, he's the kind of supporating infection that got us to this place,
yes he hates islam, but he has displayed almost equal contempt for christianity and even judaism,

the world is absurd as the 'duck amuck' pic in the lun,

[Porchlight]

I take your reply, Porchlight, as confirmation that you don't want a pic emailed to you! :-)

I'll take a pic! I guess I'm just incredulous. Thought the bet was for the general....

[buccaneer morgan]

is that your final answer,

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/disgraced-u-n-leader-john-ashe-died-weightlifting-accident-article-1.2685625

[Captain Hate]

Clock Boy needs to stay in whatever Islamic dump his trash parents took him to. Under no circumstances should that little bastard be allowed to return.

[buccaneer morgan]

in the end, a 1970s clock without an led was not that impressive, in doha,

[Threadkiller]

Steele is a product of Consent Decree negotiations.

Preibus and his lawyers admitted so much.

[buccaneer morgan]

but service for whom,

https://twitter.com/CuffyMeh/status/747055400399208448

[buccaneer morgan]

rimshot,

https://twitter.com/pmarca/status/746896164797087744

[daddy]

Just starting catch-up and have to say that everyone is on fire today over at the tail end of the last thread, Clarice, RSE, Captain, Janet, Porch, CT, Narciso,---everybody. Great wake-up reading.

Also really enjoyed seeing this just pop up at the top of Instapundit:

EXCLUSIVE: Brexit ‘2nd Referendum Petition’ A 4 Chan Prank: BBC Report It As Real

Sheryl Atkinson was dead on right in her tweet, and this story above continues to prove it.

[buccaneer morgan]

we will drink no wine,

https://twitter.com/paulmasonnews/status/747134481639813120

[henry]

Hmmmm, WI delegates no cool with Dump Trump schemes. One guy sounded like George Will, but the rest thought rules needed to be followed.

[Porchlight]

Hahaha, 4chan. That is so beautiful.

[Janet the expert]

Clock Boy needs to stay in whatever Islamic dump his trash parents took him to.

This was just in the news - http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/06/judge-upholds-boys-suspension-over-pop-tart-gun/

"You may remember a story we wrote about back in 2013 which detailed the school suspension of a 7 year old boy for biting a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun. We also covered his first appeal, which he lost.

Now a judge has upheld the suspension. Reason reports:..."

Clock boy got invited to the White House.

[buccaneer morgan]

the numbers suggest another near tie,

http://www.abc.es/

[MaryD]

I'VE seen the Political Novice wins Iceland on about four different web sites, and still think it sounds like a race horse.